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A Bewitching Sync Licensing Talk with Sonnet Simmons of 2Indie | Exclusivity, Sync Agents, Pitching
For this episode airing on Halloween, we have some very scaaaary sync licensing stories that may or may not have been told by a witch. Ok, so that’s not exactly true.
They aren’t scary stories and aren’t told by a witch…or are they?
I’ve told you many times many times about when I first heard about this thing Sync Licensing on a podcast. A lady named Cathy Heller was talking about how artists and songwriters could make music income by getting their songs into TV, film, advertising, and videos games.
Hearing that podcast was basically a "turn that car around" moment for me professionally and changed the path of both my music business and my personal music focus.
I went from producer back to composer, eventually getting both my first sync deal with a BMG library AND a master’s degree in music composition. Scary twist? Not really.
Well, today I’m going to speak with Sonnet Simmons of @2indieofficial who was part of that journey with Cathy Heller and their company Catch the Moon, and now works in, and teaches others, about sync licensing through her podcast 2Indie.
#musiclicensing #synclicensing #producers
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0:00 - Is Sonnet Indeed a Witch?
1:05 - Special Halloween Open Theme & Intro
3:50 - How Eric Got TO Sync
6:18 - How Sonnet Got TO Sync
12:53 - How We Both Got HERE
19:08 - I Have Some Questions/Exclusivity
19:28 - Exclusivity in Sync Licensing
24:49 - How Music Supervisors Think
28:28 - Is Sonnet a Sync Agent or...?
30:28 - Sync Libraries vs. Direct Pitching
36:00 - What Is a Topline?
38:00 - Songs vs. Cues
40:17 - Sync Conferences & Networking
47:18 - The Importance of DISCO
49:02 - Briefs vs. Write What You Want
57:28 - How Does Sonnet Pitch?
1:00:54 - How We Use A.I. in Licensing
1:05:00 - Thanks and Next for Sonnet
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  • @markwest1144
    @markwest1144 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great Stuff Eric! Thank you!

  • @Quary07
    @Quary07 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    After distributing my music through identify,LANDR, RouteNote, or other platforms, if someone uses my music on their channel, which is not monetized (e.g., 500 subscribers), but ads are shown on their videos due to high views, will I still earn money or royalties from my music?

  • @yemisiaderuku2902
    @yemisiaderuku2902 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    FESPACO February '25 Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso Thank you

  • @randymcgraveymusic
    @randymcgraveymusic 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The answer is no, not anymore. I have hundreds of tracks in Pond5 and other sites and maybe meet the threshold once per quarter. Exclusive libraries are where the money is.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed. You need to come on the Podcast for chat!!!

    • @randymcgraveymusic
      @randymcgraveymusic 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @MakeMusicIncome I'm down! I think we talked about that a while back. Let me know when you want to do it.

  • @MeditativeHorizons777
    @MeditativeHorizons777 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m new to licensing joined audiosparx had two sales and 53 playlist placements in only 5 months. I’m exclusive, featured, and hot new artist. 310 tracks all metadata done. Working really well for me now thanks mate

  • @tabonefamily
    @tabonefamily 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have 26 songs on Pond5 and I go $55 for Datasets. I was stoked! So I try to add a song a day now.

  • @multiversepatriot
    @multiversepatriot 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you please help me do some of this?

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure email makemusicincome@gmail.com.

  • @radimvybiral105
    @radimvybiral105 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    $0.51. I'm opted OUT and yet they still sell it.

  • @SerhiiBaskakov
    @SerhiiBaskakov 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eric, thank you for you video! Thankfully to your course I've found a library and for the last 3 months I was writing an album for them. Ten songs are ready now and approved. Currently I am waiting for contract details. All that became possible after your course. Thank you one more time! Wishing everyone success through learning and taking right steps towards the set goals.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is fantastic news. I am so glad the course in class helped you. Thank you for this report and I will let people know. Good luck with the album and onto the next.!

  • @egmusic5042
    @egmusic5042 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing

  • @SteveDangBeats
    @SteveDangBeats 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Speaking on the Sweetwater monitors segment: I've had Adam Audio, Focal, Yamaha and Dynaudio. Not cheap. And my favorite monitors have been the Mackie MR624 $300. So so good. Put that together yall. You don't need to spend through the roof.

  • @UncleMeatball
    @UncleMeatball 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this video! Question I may have missed.. if your songs are on indetifyy do we still click the TH-cam box when registering with SongTrust?

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No. You can only have one person collecting those.

    • @UncleMeatball
      @UncleMeatball 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ thx I’ll stick with identifyy for that

  • @pauldornquast5538
    @pauldornquast5538 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    $596.00 for me in October and another $117 here in November. I have been plugging away on Pond5 (only) for 10 years and have made some sales, but nothing like this. This may sound silly but when I earned my 1st $100 bucks in 2014, I was so happy I requested a check instead of PayPal and I framed that check stub! It is proudly displayed on the wall in my studio space! I have 244 clips at present with more on the way. My question is this....why is the Dataset payout shown as 1 sale with no mention of the clips used? Thanks. Just found your channel and subscribed. Great content!

  • @jamesshepard9737
    @jamesshepard9737 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not a great BMI this quarter, but I've probably made almost 40k on same 6 songs over last 20 years! Just wish I had more of them placed. Pitching mostly sync libraries this year, instead of royalty free libraries, here's hoping!! Hang in there everyone.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, I think sync is definitely the focus for me, although to be fair, I have not been pushing as much out to stock in the past two years.

  • @scottrap
    @scottrap 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is great! I’m on the verge of submitting a few songs to them. When you say they aren’t interested in “stock music” are you referring to bland instrumental background music that’s primarily filler/elevator music? The reason I ask is because my music is instrumental but they are songs with character and originality.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You definitely have to think of them as a TV film library, that’s where they focus. They are not interested in stock music or corporate music, necessarily, but music that could be behind television shows. That said I still have no idea what they want. But luckily, they still accept things from time to time. LOL

  • @BrettCopelandyoutube
    @BrettCopelandyoutube 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, thanks. What is the function that converts all of the WAV files to MP3?

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Brett nice name. They automagically do that when you upload the WAV

    • @BrettCopelandyoutube
      @BrettCopelandyoutube 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MakeMusicIncome Yes, great name! lol Ok, thank you!

  • @MirandaHumphrey-uf3tc
    @MirandaHumphrey-uf3tc 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey. Would this do well on artlist? th-cam.com/video/Xdumus_fpKc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=R45G0sJydkFjfX7Y

  • @randompreion3830
    @randompreion3830 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I need help with music library

  • @KenwoodG
    @KenwoodG 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m not a video gamer, liking the video anyways. Thank you

  • @ctatrains
    @ctatrains 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent info and I appreciate your insightful videos. So here it is 2 years later. How did the exclusives do? Do you feel they made a difference in price/placements? I'm about to try it out on a track I just uploaded.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I really haven't had time to do much exclusive with them. The main money I make with them is through Radio Sparx

    • @ctatrains
      @ctatrains 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MakeMusicIncome Thanks for responding. Well in that case, maybe I'll let you know how it went. lol. I just uploaded my first exclusive. I've got a couple hundred tracks there but all non-exclusive.

  • @sobluk
    @sobluk 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    💯🔥✅

  • @samverello7337
    @samverello7337 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Petrified

  • @willharvey1496
    @willharvey1496 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    💯

  • @Nathoster
    @Nathoster 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really appreciate these podcasts - find them motivating and helpful. Thanks for putting them out

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for letting me know and I am glad it is helping.

  • @Sirwilmusic
    @Sirwilmusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Totally agree. 🎹

  • @JJShalashaska
    @JJShalashaska 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good advice Uncle! I've been told this my whole life, can't say that people telling me this were wrong...but everything in the world is hard. Even getting a well paid "safe" job. Making music is no different from opening whatever business, like a supermarket. A business needs care and dedication. Let's just not give up!

  • @mathumphreys
    @mathumphreys 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just a quick thank you for two things you said that really resonated with me: 1. Do the dang music and 2. Get back to work. Good advice.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad it helped. Go get em.

  • @TheRealNewBlackMusic
    @TheRealNewBlackMusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For 99% of the people creating music it is a complete waste of time it is a drug just as addicting as cocaine heroin fentanyl or anything else but it is a complete waste of time that's why most musicians wind up old and mentally disturbed🤣

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That has not been my experience.

    • @mtnoblesavage
      @mtnoblesavage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kaka

    • @theend9494
      @theend9494 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I consider myself an above average songwriter / producer, I made the decision to put my day job over my music, I still did music at night , having a very supportive wife :), I am from Perth Aussie, I mentored a young lad from Zimbabwe and he ended up having (2) major number one hits, with a number 4 in UK, and became the go to Sony producer.I was much older having 3 kids, so was not willing to make the jump, some people said I could have made it, including the above. I was involved with Stephen Stone Ruffhouse Music, Lauren Hill. I had good feedback from Beyonce manager, but in the end I stuck with the job, which I also loved doing. But the main thing is "I am totally self funded in retirement", a very wealthy and happy man and still doing music, I see many down and out musos, who are not happy with their decision in life.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice story! Wealthy and retired! Time to make music!!

    • @GetSongsDone
      @GetSongsDone 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂

  • @brooklynboy1000
    @brooklynboy1000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Based on her laugh she is def a witch

  • @DawlessAndBibleBlack
    @DawlessAndBibleBlack 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love playing gigs, it's literally the best. But I hate the travel, it's the absolute worst.

  • @NargathrondMusic
    @NargathrondMusic 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am live on stage with my Black Metal Band. I dont earn a lot with that but when i get my costs back it´s fine. This is just my passion beeing on stage ;) And it´s a great variety to sitting at home and make sync music 🤘 great episode btw

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. Everyone's passion is different, that's for sure.

  • @genuinefreewilly5706
    @genuinefreewilly5706 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just got another smaller dataset earning Nov 5th from Pond5. Maybe check out your account?

  • @charliemcgrain
    @charliemcgrain 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate to sound rude, but more actual info, more quickly, would be really helpful.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry it's a podcast. Best I can do is shorts afterwards,banners you can scan through, and timestamps to go to what you want to see.

  • @charliemcgrain
    @charliemcgrain 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many thanks. Is there a resource for a list of good libraries and the genres they like?

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You might check Music libraryreport.com, but really the work is on you to find the right library for your music. They are out there and easily find a on Google.

  • @SweepsBeats
    @SweepsBeats 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    SONGTRUST IS A SCAM DO NOT USE THEM

  • @charliemcgrain
    @charliemcgrain 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Info about video title does not start for 21 minutes.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry about that. Let me check if there was an issue with timestamps/

  • @onemandrum
    @onemandrum 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    received another payment for dataset earnings today - 137usd, last month it was 983usd. i had around 350 instrumentals. how about yours? is this a monthly income?

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I got about .5 % of last time.

  • @missreynolds3637
    @missreynolds3637 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Go check your pond 5 accounts again. Got some more today. Not as good as last time, but not complaining either. Woot.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Quite a difference.

    • @missreynolds3637
      @missreynolds3637 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @MakeMusicIncome I think maybe because last time it was what? 18 months in between payments and maybe they were working out the kinks of how artists should be paid maybe??? So hence the reason it's less this time because it's only been a month in between pmts instead of this last time of 18 months.? He had just got done asking me, if I thought they'd pay out more? I had told him, from what I understand as long as it's being used, they'll be paying artists. So hopefully you all will be seeing these pmts regularly as long as they're being used? He then went and checked I guess and saw that there was indeed a pmt in there. Had me come look again hahaha.

  • @fstover5208
    @fstover5208 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pop/rock and arrangements are the only stuff that sells. Unique or original music? Forget making $$ from sheet music.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe so but you can make original adaptations of public domain stuff. And like streaming you have to push it.

  • @TilenSapac
    @TilenSapac 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Probably the best video about Songtrust on youtube!

  • @M.G.Records_it
    @M.G.Records_it 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a newbie in the Sync business, so I can't really speak too loudly about it, but what concerns me about Taxi is that they charge so much money for every single thing. Many other libraries I'm checking and applying to are free for submissions and pitches, then if you get rejected ok and if you get accepted and placed they take their fee out of your fee and that's it but they don't charge you money to put your music there or to pitch. Why do these guys charge you for every single operation? When so much money is charged, I smell scams.

    • @MakeMusicIncome
      @MakeMusicIncome 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pitching is free. It's just an email.

  • @desgl2342
    @desgl2342 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this. Very helpful. Was thinking about going with Sendowl but I’m glad I stumbled upon your video. I subscribed even if I am not a musician. I like the way you explain things.

  • @markrushtongallery
    @markrushtongallery 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent interview

  • @jordanlmcgrath
    @jordanlmcgrath 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ethical concern arises when people use AI not as a supportive tool but as a complete substitute for their own creative work. Current AI models encourage musicians to rely on subscriptions to produce music they didn’t create, allowing them to claim credit without contributing creatively. As part of my research at the University of Portsmouth, I’m investigating the ethical implications of AI in music. I’m continuously discovering both surprising and innovative ways in which AI is reshaping music production. The biggest issue with AI is that it works on algorithms and algorithms can be biased depending on the information fed into it. currently they are conducting an experiment using a second AI to check the work of the first.

  • @TheMusicLabComposer
    @TheMusicLabComposer 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    HR Puff n Stuff

  • @RoryChenoweth
    @RoryChenoweth 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A friend of mine had a track approved by a library via TAXI but he ultimately passed on the opportunity because of the same reasons you mentioned. The client was very blunt and impersonal in his response, the website was outdated and unprofessional and there was no indication as to what the track was going to be used for.

  • @jamesshepard9737
    @jamesshepard9737 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    remember recording with reel to reel,beginning in late 60's. ping ponging back and forth, til everything was so muddy. Also on four track cassettes, yes, I remember that high end hiss! Started working with protools twenty years ago, what a blessing.

  • @MakeMusicIncome
    @MakeMusicIncome 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any questions or thoughts about what we talk about here (except witches 🧙‍♀?) Leave them in the comments!