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Ravel - Gaspard de la Nuit (Martha Argerich, Saarbrücken 1972) (Score-Video)
1. Ondine (00:00)
2. Le gibet (06:30)
3. Scarbo (13:01)
How do I even begin talking about this performance? For me, it is the pinnacle of pianism in recorded history. Gaspard has always been my favorite work in the piano repertoire. Seldom has the piano been utilized to a fuller potential of color than in this piece - and rarer has music been imbued with such darkness and fantasy. Ravel wrote it as his father was dying, and used poetry from a collection that his father had read for him as a child. The darkness that Ravel was able to tap into from this, the satanic qualities, the sensuality, is beyond description.
Argerich performed this work many times, including in a studio recording which she has semi-disavowed, saying that due to her pregnancy it is not representative of her true intentions pianistically. It is still a fantastic recording, but rather on the safe side. This live performance from 1972 is Argerich at her best. Does she always follow what is on the page? No. Does it matter? When she plays it the way she does, no. Ondine is shimmering, sensuous with an undercurrent of danger, played at a perfect tempo with a full range of expression and color. Le Gibet is static, terrifying, a petrified and frozen cry of loneliness and isolation. Scarbo is everything: humorous, delicate, impish, satanic, terrifying, sensuous. Her abilities on the piano are nowhere better showcased than in this performance.
The only other live performances of Gaspard that match hers in my opinion are Beatrice Rana (at the Cliburn) and Pogorelich. But it is a piece that is so personal to so many people, that who is successful in it is very much up for debate.
2. Le gibet (06:30)
3. Scarbo (13:01)
How do I even begin talking about this performance? For me, it is the pinnacle of pianism in recorded history. Gaspard has always been my favorite work in the piano repertoire. Seldom has the piano been utilized to a fuller potential of color than in this piece - and rarer has music been imbued with such darkness and fantasy. Ravel wrote it as his father was dying, and used poetry from a collection that his father had read for him as a child. The darkness that Ravel was able to tap into from this, the satanic qualities, the sensuality, is beyond description.
Argerich performed this work many times, including in a studio recording which she has semi-disavowed, saying that due to her pregnancy it is not representative of her true intentions pianistically. It is still a fantastic recording, but rather on the safe side. This live performance from 1972 is Argerich at her best. Does she always follow what is on the page? No. Does it matter? When she plays it the way she does, no. Ondine is shimmering, sensuous with an undercurrent of danger, played at a perfect tempo with a full range of expression and color. Le Gibet is static, terrifying, a petrified and frozen cry of loneliness and isolation. Scarbo is everything: humorous, delicate, impish, satanic, terrifying, sensuous. Her abilities on the piano are nowhere better showcased than in this performance.
The only other live performances of Gaspard that match hers in my opinion are Beatrice Rana (at the Cliburn) and Pogorelich. But it is a piece that is so personal to so many people, that who is successful in it is very much up for debate.
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The first pianist
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Absolutely not.
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Ivo Pogorelich = liberté, c'est ma version préférée, je l'ai écoutée des centaines de fois, elle me mets dans un état second. N'est-ce pas cela la définition de l'art ? Mais dans cette version : th-cam.com/video/Q-tGUpF18ew/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! After 204 attempts I no hit her on NG+7 with a level 150 Great Stars charged attack build!
Show respect for Lang Lang!
Loved Zimerman, Yuja, and Alice Sarah Ott. Lang Lang seems to me to do a disservice to Chopin as to so much else he butchers.
Of course Kissin should be in this list?
I will always vote for young Master Alexander Malofeev… his star continues to rise. 🎶
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Chopin has beautiful melodies, but his main skill is not his melodic writing - it is his harmonies! Therefore, these faster performances only serve to muddy and therefore disrespect his vision IMO
I guess everyone agrees that Jan was bad 😅
Idk why this method is so unknown lol by far the easiest way to dodge waterfowl in my experience
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Rubinstein it's just better.
KISSIN & KHATIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do not say god, no one able to be like god!!
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GODOWSKY and HOFMAN for me
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Inimitable ❤
After listening each and every one of them, in my opinion, the truly very best interpretation of this nocturne is from a pianist named David Fray. He just sounds perfectly right. I would love Yuncham Lim to play it. He has such an incredible talent. Hope someday he will.
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To be honest, I don't really like any of them. Almost all play so hard, the piano almost becomes non-musical. And the fast ones so fast, I don't even know if the key action can keep up. And it doesn't help that the dynamics are so high, it's probably clipping the microphones. I have heard one excellent version though, with the playing and recording equally superb. It's Pollini (surprise! lol). th-cam.com/video/5rfle8wSwJM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mxWD3kFtF2eDYl2y
5:19 the discord notif lol
Why isn't there Hayato Sumino :0 ?
Def one of the best
It's easy to have good voicing when you play like a mouse. Hofmann completely misses the mark by sacrificing the intensity of the build up for the sake of 'muh voicing' (his words, not mine). It would be great if pianos had infinite volume and no matter how loud you played, you could still make the voicing even louder, but that's just not possible. There's a limit to volume, so in order to 'voice' as dramatically as he does in a forte, the accompaniment is inherently going to be mezzo piano. I'd take the voicing getting drowned out a little over the complete lack of intensity and the agitation of a Buddhist monk on xanax.
I don't know how I missed this the first 5 times around, but Sofronitsky's interpretation is incredible. Might be my new favorite. Others I like: * Seong-Jin Cho -- faithful and beautiful interpretation. My only gripe is that it lacks some of the bite / edge I would like from it. * Ivo Pogorelich -- I've got a soft spot for schizoids. * Myra Hess -- like this one quite a bit, very intense, but I think she gets a bit too big too early. * Jan Lisiecki, Lugansky & Sokolov all speak to me. I feel they all have a similar interpretation, and similar to Sofronitsky. There are aspects of each that I prefer over the others, but without listening closely, I doubt I would be able to identify which is which without the labels. * Alice Sara Ott -- beautiful, tender, but same gripe as I have with Seong-Jin Cho's but to an even greater degree. It's good for a change of pace, but I think maybe just increasing the speed a little could bring out the agitato, or maybe just being a bit wonky with tempo (more abrupt /jagged rubato), without changing anything else. But I think it's clear she's not going for that, so I'm cool with it. Rubinstein's is still one of my favorites. It doesn't really match the attributes I like about my favorites (Lisiecki, Lugansky, Sokolov, Sofronitsky), but his playing is so charismatic, it draws me in in spite of that.
Rubinstein, Hofman and Yundi Li
The fifth one looks d like she literaly watching her own performance and sey to herself wtf did I just played
and iv almost got heart attack after anna fedorova
Just be better than yesterday and that's it
Alexei Sultanov
Both Ivo Pogorelich’s version and Josef Hofman’s version are very emotional… Pogorelich’s version seems that someone is yearning for confessing his heart to his love one, but he is unable to do so because he himself is in the hell…Hofman’s version is like telling a story about the old good days and those memories will last forever even they are slowly turning into colorless… I personally actually like Tiffany Poon’s interpretation the most. That feels like all the good old memories are fading away but the lingering sadness never stops. But here did not show Poon’s version. I would say Poon’s version is a combination of Yundi Li’s version (regret) and Yuja Wang’s version (tenderness). That is a combination of the expression of grief, regret and tenderness. Poon’s sentimental touch is unique. I find Vladimir Sofronitsky’s expression very gentle too. I don’t agree that this section has to be played with “clean and clear” notes. I feel like the “unclear” expression is more accurate to show the ambiguous, ambivalent and struggling feeling within the melodies.
1)Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli (18:33) 2)Krystian Zimerman (00:00) 3)Maurizio Pollini (02:55)