15 Great Pianists attempt Brahms’ most INSANE sequence of music (Paganini Variations Book 1: Var 14)

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  • @johnphillips5993
    @johnphillips5993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I love how Kobrin (my teacher!) doesn’t exactly go for speed, but for sound. He produces a very organ-like sound here (and in the rest of Book I), which is better than just blowing through this

  • @The_Guy_Who_Asked_06
    @The_Guy_Who_Asked_06 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Seeing all those broken octaves makes my wrists hurt.

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Brahms loved his broken octaves!

    • @WalterReade
      @WalterReade ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know what a broken octave is, and my wrists still hurt from this.

    • @acactus2190
      @acactus2190 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WalterReade its probably better if you don't...lol

    • @h-ye7um
      @h-ye7um 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I assume Hamelin likes them even more

  • @BrianPaick
    @BrianPaick ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You forget how absolutely superb Zilberstein is just because she's not often mentioned in the same breath as Kissin or Argerich or Sokolov. That power! Like Richter at his best (which he unfortunately is not here, based on album cover it's late in life)

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 ปีที่แล้ว

      Women can't really play with much power. I prefer Tzimon Barto's live performance, available on YT. Big guy who plays big.

    • @markwilliamson8047
      @markwilliamson8047 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @FrankSmith It’s obvious you haven’t listened to the right women pianists (including Zilberstein in this video). Either that, or you’re just blatantly sexist.

    • @BrianPaick
      @BrianPaick ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@markwilliamson8047 Let the incel be, he gets bullied enough
      Also Tzimon Barto's var 14 is a soporific

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markwilliamson8047 No, I have recordings of Idil Biret's Rachmaninoff Sonatas and Douze Grandes Etudes of Liszt and there is a fullness and power to her playing. I admire her very much, as I do other women pianists. It's just that men of equal technique play with more power. It's simple physics.
      I once saw Hamelin break a string while playing the concluding pages of the mighty fugue of Reger's Bach Variations. The power Yefim Bronfman brought to the cadenza of Rach 3 while I was sitting in the front row will always be with me - as well as to the Islamey in another concert I attended. Another great memory is of Garrick Ohlsson playing the Busoni Concerto in the late 80s. Colossal sound that I have not heard produced by a female pianist.
      I have attended concerts of several well-known female pianists in the Rach and Balakirev pieces mentioned, but they don't come close for big sound (as Bronfman). "Chords like cast bronze", as Busoni's Liszt playing was once described.

    • @antiksur8883
      @antiksur8883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@franksmith541This is just a series of anecdotes. It's pointless to respond with "oh, but I say blah blah blah.."

  • @HerrEdge
    @HerrEdge หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    None of these recordings should be judged as direct comparison of the respective pianist’s abilities EXCEPT the live video performances. Pianist’s work (with varying degrees of performer’s complicity) are subjected to rigorous mistake-scrubbing. I know from personal experience in the recording booth. Even without my request, the tech was already busily deleting squashed notes and splicing takes to create a note-perfect performance. Let’s stop the brainless hero-worship of note-perfect recordings. They’re fake. We classical pianists are not pop musicians. The struggle of live performance is a massive undertaking: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. Accordingly, I am delighted to find some fantastic feats in this excellently edited video, along with the telling and informative mistakes made by some genuinely consummate artists, all of which I have the utmost respect for. This piece is a BEAR. A terrifying, awe-inspiring beast. Clara Schumann’s ‘Hexenvariationen.’

  • @chazinko
    @chazinko ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Have always loved Arrau's Paganini Variations. The articulation and quality of sonority are always connected to the expression of the music, even at its greatest intensity. And Gilels, though older here, played the Brahms Paganini Variations in the 1938 Queen Elizabeth Competition in which Michelangeli was also a contestant. It would be very interesting to have heard the younger Gilels play this work especially based on his other early recordings such as the Liszt Figaro Fantasy.

  • @Piflaser
    @Piflaser 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brahms called it "Studien für Klavier" witch means piano etudes. He wrote it for Carl Tausig, who played it often in concert. Clara Schumann studied the work, but never played it in public.

  • @sebastian-benedictflore
    @sebastian-benedictflore ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Woah, Michelangeli. Too much pedal for my personal taste perhaps but absolutely incredible. He goes beyond technical feats and uses it to create something special that I've never heard in this passage

    • @szdxw
      @szdxw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The overused pedal is what create something special. The reverb of the bass really emphasizes the phrasing of the melody.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@szdxw yeah, absolutely. I probably wouldn't do it myself but it sounds amazing when he does it.

  • @filmscorefreak
    @filmscorefreak ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Kissin is flippin amazing. But musically, I love Pogorelich's version the best, really brings out the macabre!

    • @MarcMichaelC.Heydenreich
      @MarcMichaelC.Heydenreich 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pogorelich wie häufig, willkürlich und maniriert ohne Sinn.

  • @GrayNotes
    @GrayNotes ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Zilberstein nailed it! Powerful and well articulated but still without rushing just through it. Other interpretations sound a bit mannered ... like they just want to let the world know that they have a unique musicality ;)

  • @aidankoop2110
    @aidankoop2110 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kobrin was astonishing. So good.

  • @nilsfrederking62
    @nilsfrederking62 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like the different approach of Francesco Libetta. Jong Hwa Parks version is very good in the sense that the duck tempo brings out the melodic structure better.

  • @jeromedinchong5278
    @jeromedinchong5278 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow this is so dramatic! I just love Evgeny's, Yuja Wang's and Jong Hwa Park's versions. Thumbs up !

  • @yeetthebeet
    @yeetthebeet หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow kobrin's interp is really beautiful

  • @balsamicvinegar4454
    @balsamicvinegar4454 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The camera cuts in the Zilberstein are out of this world. I felt like I was watching inception, every two seconds a new cut. The entire video is so cool.

    • @daniele8716
      @daniele8716 ปีที่แล้ว

      And evidently not live....

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว

      Too many for a classical music video (I say this as a livestream director) - more suited to a video game

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniele8716 I am sure edited heavily

    • @starfire.chuang
      @starfire.chuang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The audio is live.

  • @OpinionatedSkink
    @OpinionatedSkink ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Kissin's 100% for me. Absolute machine in this. Would love to see what Lim Yunchan does with this one day. He has the chops for it surely, after demolishing Feux Follets

    • @daniele8716
      @daniele8716 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Machine? I don't think Kissin is just that, the Asiatic versions sound like machine-playing, not him

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว

      From where is this live performance? I have the one from 1/23/95 in Carnegie, and its equal to this

    • @peterholetschek9803
      @peterholetschek9803 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      LIM is a copy machine, a totally unmusical robot, he will never be accepted as a MUSICIAN

    • @peterholetschek9803
      @peterholetschek9803 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Who is LIM Y. ?... a copy machine without musicality at all

    • @peterholetschek9803
      @peterholetschek9803 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly, all these asiatic rhythm machines should be banned from all stages

  • @PastukhSkota
    @PastukhSkota ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For me, it's Kissin. Not only is it faster than most, but he also brings the most amazing clarity.
    I was astonished i first heard his studio recording... jaw Dropped!!
    -Michelangeli- great speed, but is more muddy than the Ultra crispness of Kissin.
    (And that he cut out one of the harder bits!?.... I'm with You on this surprise is this realization! )

  • @alexchristodoulou
    @alexchristodoulou ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kobrin played with the best character. Kissin with the best clarity (given the frantic speed)

  • @Pseudify
    @Pseudify ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing is for sure - this piece has the full attention of every single one of them! Most appear to be quite thankful when that section is over.

  • @robhaskins
    @robhaskins ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with you about Kobrin.

  • @AlessandroContimusic
    @AlessandroContimusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Listen to Julius Katchen, unbelievable! (only on record as far as I know)

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Katchen is divine in Brahms, possibly the greatest. It's a shame there is no live recording of him playing this...his studio is unbelievable as you say.

  • @celloguy
    @celloguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video! Thanks for creating. Had never heard this piece.
    (Weirdly Wang us down a tone)

  • @mcbainst
    @mcbainst 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did yall see what Ivo did there?!?? Outlining the original Paganini theme, around all the "fast" notes.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:35 and special thanks and respect for the very dominant female Mrs. Zilberstein. I love this kind of boxing Brahms knock-out instead playing it with mourning grimaces.

  • @tobiaspeter6555
    @tobiaspeter6555 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Noone really nails it. Kissin wins, however, the overall prize. Never heard Yuja Wang hit so many wrong notes. But honestly: kind of fun to hear this passage that brings even the world's best pianists beyond their limits.

  • @romkrasorg
    @romkrasorg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lilya Zilberstein - Super! Bravo!

  • @reachmehere5
    @reachmehere5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aline van Barentzen's 1941 recording of both books is the best that I've heard.

  • @Aurevilly
    @Aurevilly ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yuja Wang sloppy and in pain, never thought I’d see that 🤔 Kissin imperial here

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wang starts off strong and then starts to derail. Her studio recording is (obviously) much stronger - and given her technique I’m positive she could give a better live performance on a different night but it’s a shame that the one video we have of her doing it isn’t her best

    • @DrDLL99
      @DrDLL99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArgerichStan there’s another video of her playing it live, wearing a purple dress. She’s much better in that one.

  • @PastukhSkota
    @PastukhSkota ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did Earl Wild ever record this live? I know his amazing studio recording... but was hoping theres a live version floating around here!

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว

      I have tons of live Wild, but have never seen a live Brahms Pag

  • @gabrieleferrari9383
    @gabrieleferrari9383 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Michelangeli is something else! Wow

  • @eytonshalomsandiego
    @eytonshalomsandiego 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not for the first time do i find Kissin's breathtaking and my favorite...

  • @franksmith541
    @franksmith541 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come you didn't include Tzimon Barto's live performance, available right here on YT? This is a big guy with big hands, well-suited to this music.

  • @mateussphilippi5029
    @mateussphilippi5029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked tuning of the piano in Yuja Wang video.

    • @Montu-pc5gp
      @Montu-pc5gp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      pov when its a half step lower

  • @kpunkt.klaviermusik
    @kpunkt.klaviermusik ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Richter surprisingly slow (compared to the others) - my favorite.

  • @ondinehd6889
    @ondinehd6889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lilya Zilberstein: the best performance! (Jong Hwa Park: very crisp, interesting, but not always "clean.")

  • @elijahcalloway118
    @elijahcalloway118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy how Yuja is like 11/2 a tone down from everyone else, yet she still played that with no effort and musicality.

    • @paulstrickler5684
      @paulstrickler5684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Guess I’m musically stupid: I don’t understand this comment. What does 11/2 indicate?

  • @richardhunter132
    @richardhunter132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do find myself asking if this is actually musical?

  • @ilWadjet
    @ilWadjet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wilhelm Backhaus🥰

  • @nicholasfontana5088
    @nicholasfontana5088 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The video editing in Zilberstein's is unwatchable. Got vertigo from trying to watch that one lol.

  • @hshshs2007
    @hshshs2007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jong Hwa Park at 15:26 is really outstanding and it was a shame that this is my first encounter with him in here.Bravissimo

    • @LisztianGR
      @LisztianGR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing interesting in it. He just struggles to - and succeeds in - not making a mistake and pressing (almost) all the correct notes. A feat by itself, don't get me wrong, but music is not gymnastics - and not everything is for everybody to perform.

    • @hshshs2007
      @hshshs2007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LisztianGR this is so unfair really. He's such a great musician and deserves all the appreciation and recognition.

    • @LisztianGR
      @LisztianGR ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hshshs2007 I was referring to this particular excerpt that I listened to - haven't heard of him in general. Will look him up when time allows.

  • @Highinsight7
    @Highinsight7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the tempo I play it at... is very close to Tianxu An... very clear and on the safe side...

  • @maxp07
    @maxp07 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like so much Julius Katchen interpretation but unfortunatly is not in this list.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And yes, Mr. Kobrin, absolutely great.
    (just a little too young for the toxic inspiration of the piece, but don't worry, he will be soon depressive-agressive as all and play the work heavenly)

  • @diogomori9624
    @diogomori9624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Judging by the strained facial expressions of these brilliant pianists, you can imagine how fucking bizarre this is. I know that Brahms was an extremely virtuoso pianist, but did he match Lizst and Chopin?

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 ปีที่แล้ว

      This piece in particular is IMO even harder than the vast majority of Liszt and all of Chopin's pieces. It's pretty well known as one of the hardest works in the standard repertoire.

    • @diogomori9624
      @diogomori9624 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aerohydra3849 Yeah I can imagine because it is deeply impressive.

  • @Charlie-xx2wj
    @Charlie-xx2wj หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like Silberstein and Kissin. Silberstein has the right idea but the form is not so apparent.... and Kissin has crisp fingering but was played a tad fast though.

  • @alonagrau4279
    @alonagrau4279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Кобрин...фантастика!👏

  • @TheVoitel
    @TheVoitel ปีที่แล้ว

    All very cool versions, but I really like the one by Francesco Libetta. Many of these interpretations fail to play the top notes _ben marcato_ as Brahms asks for, instead they drown everything in lots of pedal. Kissin is great and articulate (unless in the end where the pedal kind of get’s out of control in one spot, but it is too fast. At this tempo the trills in the bass just do not make sense anymore. Yuja Wang is quite clean and articulate, but a bit too heavy on the pedal.

  • @jfpary7336
    @jfpary7336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot Julius Katchen.

  • @peter5.056
    @peter5.056 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahah, I spent a summer about 25 years ago learning....
    ...that I was never gonna be great at this particular piece, lol...

  • @fiokomjutub972
    @fiokomjutub972 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Michelangeli

  • @dorfmanjones
    @dorfmanjones ปีที่แล้ว

    Petri's rendition is studio I believe; not live.

  • @meddem7060
    @meddem7060 ปีที่แล้ว

    Synchronizing video and audio is such a difficult task....

  • @herrbrahms
    @herrbrahms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't trust any pianist who doesn't reach for the A0 at the climax of Var. 14, bar 22 of the variation. When Brahms wrote these variations in the 1860s, he hadn't yet received his glorious Streicher instrument with the last three bass keys.

  • @HerwigZack
    @HerwigZack 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot believe it! Why the hell didn't you include the fabulous recordings by Julius Katchen. To me he is toweringly superior to everybody presented here, mavbe with the exception of Kissin. And you also left out the remarkable version of Agustin Anievas.

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Katchen’s recording is not live

  • @avb20540
    @avb20540 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kissin is a monster

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there an early recording of richter playing this? Unfortunately this one is from the 80’s when his playing generally became extremely pedantic.

    • @daniele8716
      @daniele8716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No there isn't. Richter learnt this very late, which is curious. He also disliked Michelangeli in this piece (it's in his diaries). I adore Richter but his version is pale and I very much prefer Mchelangeli's or Kissin's. Gilels learnt this as a young man and it is really a pity that no early vesion survives.

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I would've guessed it's Balakirev or Godovsky!

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brahms is usually not known for intense displays of virtuosity, until he is!! Haha

  • @marcraider
    @marcraider ปีที่แล้ว

    in this specific part you can hear and see in the writing a lot of Beethoven's influence

  • @pghagen
    @pghagen ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss Shura Cherkassky! He recorded the complete Paganini Variations by Brahms!

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard him do it live - there is nothing that man played that wasn't on his own terms and unique.

  • @paolobigi59
    @paolobigi59 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli

  • @Eliascmd
    @Eliascmd ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kissin is the winner 👏👏👏 I’m shocked by the disaster Gilels had !

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This piece is so unplayable that i’m not surprised if it’s ability to derail anyone, no matter how great! Haha

    • @Paroles_et_Musique
      @Paroles_et_Musique ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You know he was 65 years old, Kissin was 25 ;)

    • @epicaunleashed8764
      @epicaunleashed8764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. Julius Katchen and another dude played better

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@epicaunleashed8764 For me, a holy grail is to find ANY live Katchen with Brahms - his complete set of the piano music has never been surpassed.

    • @epicaunleashed8764
      @epicaunleashed8764 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoePatrych i don't think you'll ever find any live katchen recordng, but agreed. His Brahms is unsurpassable.

  • @jaykeyz9094
    @jaykeyz9094 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best versions I've heard is by pianist named Daniel Lessner, you should check out his performance live at Carnegie Hall

  • @nicolacampanella502
    @nicolacampanella502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michelangeli...sempre ineguagliabile

  • @prokastinatore
    @prokastinatore หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's. not necessary the speed. It's about the music. This is no tennis serve & volley....

  • @cantkeepitin
    @cantkeepitin ปีที่แล้ว

    A pitty that there is e g no Pollini record

  • @georgenorris2657
    @georgenorris2657 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree that kobin is best here. He maintains control throughout and keeps the phrasing clear and musical. That piano though: horribly harsh tone and certainly not the pianist´s fault.

  • @carlhopkinson
    @carlhopkinson ปีที่แล้ว

    God-like music !!!

  • @Dizzyfingers2
    @Dizzyfingers2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is marked Allegro. Brahms groups at the 32nd note. Kissin, Michelangeli, Park and Zilberstein play it much too fast and it shows with their mistakes. One cannot bring out the harmonic phrasings at that speed.

    • @fredfeinberg3995
      @fredfeinberg3995 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are Kissin's mistakes?

    • @Dizzyfingers2
      @Dizzyfingers2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fredfeinberg3995 @0:16 for starters ...

  • @danieliwuala4093
    @danieliwuala4093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kissin and Libetta

  • @sharky_spike
    @sharky_spike 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rhe best ive heard is julius katchen ...hands down👍

  • @chystokletov
    @chystokletov ปีที่แล้ว

    Useless comparison, why would you compare a younger player to an aged one? (Kissin to Richter or Gilels)

  • @tylerstoner7051
    @tylerstoner7051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hang the cameraman on yujas performance. Panning to her face on the most insane part smh

  • @Daniel-qx6bg
    @Daniel-qx6bg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the last one was the best

  • @giacomoboganini7823
    @giacomoboganini7823 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pogorelich & Zilberstein best IMO

  • @normalnik
    @normalnik ปีที่แล้ว

    Micgelangeli impareggiabile!!!!!!

  • @seriejovenspianistas
    @seriejovenspianistas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kissin, Kissin, KISSIN !!!!!

  • @Rudel23
    @Rudel23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pity that Kristina Miller is missing, she' s astonishing!

  • @federicoferro1410
    @federicoferro1410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lilya Zilberstein is my favorite.

  • @georgeshogo
    @georgeshogo ปีที่แล้ว

    hold my bear...

  • @sirsamfay99
    @sirsamfay99 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Julius Katchen is not good enough to be on the video!

  • @vhar5658
    @vhar5658 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muy diferentes unas de otras las interpretaciones. La mayoría me gustan, menos tres, dos de ellas de dos monstruos sagrados del firmamento pianístico, me refiero a Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli y a Wilhelm Backhaus, estoy extrañado por la velocidad, obviamente eran muy jóvenes en esas interpretaciones, se nota que daban prioridad al lucimiento técnico en detrimento de las ideas de Brahms, en estos casos las velocidades arruinan todo; y la otra es la de Ivo Pogorelich, por razones obvias, es un pianista muy bueno, pero su creatividad a veces se vuelca por el libertinaje y las interpretaciones suenan casi irreconocibles. Creo que Sviatoslav Richter es el más equilibrado.

  • @thepianocornertpc
    @thepianocornertpc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zilberstein.

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Petri's is the most polished. This thing weighs 800 lbs, you're going to see veins bulging. Jong Hwa Park has a true feeling for the piece, pianistically.

  • @federicotalamucci4424
    @federicotalamucci4424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pogorelic: ridicolous. Kissin: the best. Libetta: chi cazz'e'?

  • @Kreutzer1812
    @Kreutzer1812 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this! Interesting! I would definitely recommend Arrau's whole version. But here's the link to this variation. th-cam.com/video/IxzyXeSYl28/w-d-xo.html

    • @MartinVanBoven
      @MartinVanBoven ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely should have been included. Plus special note for the no.13 before it, which Arrau managed to turn into music like no ever pianist ever has.

  • @BiarritzMania64200
    @BiarritzMania64200 ปีที่แล้ว

    il manque Katchen, voyons !

  • @sanjai_s
    @sanjai_s ปีที่แล้ว

    Zilberstein is best to me

  • @renelicht
    @renelicht ปีที่แล้ว

    😍😍😍😍😍

  • @cantkeepitin
    @cantkeepitin ปีที่แล้ว

    ABM made different records, this is only fast but not that amazing

  • @paules3437
    @paules3437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meh. How hard could it be?....

  • @jfpary7336
    @jfpary7336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michelangeli! Fantastic!

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Technically very difficult, but to be honest, I don't find it very interesting musically. To me it just sounds like an endless series of bland arpeggios.

    • @WEEBLLOM
      @WEEBLLOM ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "It's difficult but not musical" 🤓

    • @LeGrandJohnson
      @LeGrandJohnson 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's one single variation out of two full books of them. Listen to the full set for the musicality. There's plenty. This is the fireworks.

  • @khurshid_piano
    @khurshid_piano ปีที่แล้ว

    Michelangeli made fire🔥

  • @Manx123
    @Manx123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This piece sound better than I remember, at least these excerpts, but I think it's highly overrated and not worth the difficulty. I very much prefer either of Liszt's transcriptions of the 24th caprice.

  • @Geisterschiff
    @Geisterschiff ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should nickname this wonderful vídeos as a great Brazilian writer Nelson Rodrigues titled his chronicles in the newspapers "A vida como ela é" meaning "Life as it is". THIS is reality, a life taking risks in front of people, getting scratches, making mistakes and great music alltogether and above all showing deep sense of humanity. Congratulations🎉Great job!

  • @Lecter1010
    @Lecter1010 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Kobrin's rendition is so underrated. He played even better in Cliburn 2005

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His Cliburn performance is astonishing. There is something though about this early performance that I am obsessed with - it is so POWERFUL, he goes for such a massive sound that no-one else really attempts despite never losing the clarity of articulation. In the Cliburn he lightens up slightly, maybe because of the piano or maybe just because over time he modified his interpretation.

    • @Lecter1010
      @Lecter1010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ArgerichStan Can’t agree more! Kobrin had some mad phrasing and tone control. Not like others did not play the piece well but Kobrin gave more depth and resonance to the music. Thats what made him special in my opinion.

    • @JoePatrych
      @JoePatrych ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed - the Cliburn 2005 Semi-Final performance is actually bette rthan this one, and in much better sound.

  • @Highinsight7
    @Highinsight7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sooo many darn GREAT pianists... my favorite...??? Francesco Libetta ??? Richter...????

  • @HaischkaEST
    @HaischkaEST 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not the biggest Kissin fan, to be honest, but this style is exactly where he shines. It's deliberate, powerful, and bravura. Wonderful!

  • @chadvindin9933
    @chadvindin9933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget Alexander Gavrylyuk
    th-cam.com/video/O8hEINWfwHg/w-d-xo.html

    • @ArgerichStan
      @ArgerichStan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t know this recording existed- it is excellent

  • @tomolavson1834
    @tomolavson1834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty fun listening to these contrasting performances... Overall, so much of book one is difficult.. Please listen to THE great master...Julius Katchen and the recent recording of Gayvrylyuk to really hear what it can do... and I agree Kobrin is really musical ..Unfortunate he wasn't playing a New York Steinway rather than that harsh tin bucket

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:00 how technical and auditive perfection can be emotionally boring. Notes without meaning and message. So schade !!