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@FaraWitana-i7v I have not. The only issues I've had with that is if I try to use an SSX23 magazine in this gun

@@HappysAirsoft anyway what gas you use on game?

@FaraWitana-i7v I actually have an HPA drum for this and I run this as a primary now. But if I was to use green gas, I just use Elite Force green gas.

@@hazard_wookiee7413 I think there's a version with trades and one without. This is the one without

@@HappysAirsoft huh. My E&C 416D had trades under the same stickers but I’m from gelsoft land down under, US/Euro models may be diff, plus it’s a different rifle all together (word is we’re getting these 417’s in gel around January-ish, we’ll see for sure then lol)

@hazard_wookiee7413 yeah after removing the stickers, there's nothing on mine sadly. But that's cool that you're from all the way down there! Gel blasters look cool but not quite as high performance as airsoft in terms of range/accuracy. I wonder how this would be in Gel blaster form...

@@HappysAirsoft that’s pretty much it, just a straight downgrade performance wise. CQB holds up great though, just can’t hit the shots that something like a 417 was meant for lol. Personally I’m keen to travel internationally and give airsoft a proper go one day

@hazard_wookiee7413 yeah from what I've seen in videos, their groupings are all over the place at range. Definitely not good for a Marksman rifle like a 417. And Definitely give that a go! You could even make the short trip up to Japan and play there!

@darkshock42mlg05 maybe I should recheck the box lol. But the one on it in the thumbnail was definitely orange plastic. It's got a huge suppressor on it now though

​@@HappysAirsoft That's just My experience from ordering from Taiwan gun. I ordered two guns from them. December Platinum MP5 and the aeroknox ax15. Both had orange mouse devices but they were metal and just had a very thin layer of paint on them. For Taiwan gun, they only painted the three lug, but they include the actual muzzle device in a separate bag and you can unscrew the muzzle device with your hands after removing a grubscrew. My guess is to I might not include is because you live May live in a state like New York or California. Utah which is a pro to a state and did not wrap tape around it

@chuk90 at my field, they would not allow this as an actual DMR since it's not a replica of a higher caliber battle rifle. But the gun does have much more range potential now and I can make some good 200ft (60m) shots! But yeah, everyone thinks that an M4 can be a DMR if you slap a scope on it and make it shoot hard lol.

@@chuk90 right!!! This AI app nailed their voices. Obamas could be better but oh well

@chuk90 I haven't heard of needing to do that but I can look into it! So far the gun has been running smoothly with no issues as is though!

@solidslicc707 Oh noooo! That sucks! Well one missing screw for the gearbox won't be the end of the world but yeah it sounds like something (maybe the piston, or spring guide) wasn't seated right.

@@HappysAirsoft I’ll definitely try again once my kit for drilling stripped screws comes in. Is it supposed to fit together snugly with no gaps to the point you don’t have to hold it down once it’s fully on all the way? It was quite a struggle for me to fight that spring tension to put it back on. I thought I did it the first time I did only for the ARL to fall out and through the hole the motor head goes into.

@solidslicc707 yeah it should fit together pretty smoothly. You'll still want to hold it in place before you put the screws in just to be safe but yeah there shouldn't be a gap between the shell halves

@@HappysAirsoft Sounds good, I’ll make sure I have the two halves fit snuggly the next time. Maybe I should pick up a magnet somewhere to keep the parts in place while I put it back together. It’s always a pain working on these guns.

@solidslicc707 yeah it's a massive pain keeping gearbox shell halves together when reassembling. I always just try to get top half on with the major components aligned. Then use a tiny screw driver to re-align anything out of place

@emanekaf145 Nice! Honestly, all LCTs are bit stiff on their first disassembly but this stock was definitely on tight lol

@kylethedalek from what I've gathered is that all the MK23s are super quiet. I've only seen this one and the novritsch version, so I can't speak on behalf of the others (like the ASG). It is relatively easy to HPA one of these. All you have to do is remove the gas fill valve and replace it with an HPA tap and done! That or some companies (primary airsoft or Airtac UK) make 3D printed adapters where you can use AEG magazines in the gun as well as HPA and it's super easy to use

@@HappysAirsoft Thanks man! Is the only other mod needed the flap? I’m really thinking about it, I can’t believe how quite they are. But then for the same price I could get a Uzi or for some more a WE XM. But then I they don’t have the quietness of a MK23.

@kylethedalek if you want it to be dead quiet, there's the flap mod and I've seen kits for lighter triggers and mods to soften up the noise that the hammer makes too. I'm not sure how to do that one though but I remember seeing a video on it and it was really quiet! And yeah the MK23 is expensive for a pistol but with just a few upgrades, you can hop .40s with ease and have it shooting 1.5J so it has 200ft of range haha!

@@Lost3DPrints I took a tiny piece of electrical tape and super glued it to the top portion of the little slot where the mag catch latches into the magazine. I also noticed the gun performed way better after installing the CNC nozzle stopper too

@@HappysAirsoft Ok sweet I’m going to give this a try, I did get the updated version with a CNC nozzle stopper already. But I’ve only shot around 200 shots due to being irritated about having to hold the mag up. Edit* wow seemed to fix it! I was really hoping something simple like this would fix it. Fingers crossed I can get a few games with no other issues. I’m running a TAPP airsoft HPA drum mag.

@@Lost3DPrints that's so awesome! Glad that it worked! Hopefully it holds up in gameplay

@@bloxmaster2623 for mine, I upgraded to an ASG 22TPA motor, a prometheus tightbore, maple leaf 75° bucking, Maxx hop up unit, and an M140 spring This made it into much more of a DMR

@@sake170 I'm not sure what might be causing it, but here is a video that could help you. I hope it works! th-cam.com/video/2xLtzGzNeCM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rLQY_gQ7za2FaCT1

the gun is new btw....and i watched that video...the mag isn t the problem

@sake170 that's really strange. The only other things I could think of is that your bolt isn't traveling back far enough to be locked back by the bolt catch, or that the bolt carrier or bolt catch themselves are straight up faulty/broken in some sort of way

@@HappysAirsoft i did 6 seconds gas fill to my mag and now after i shoot a full mag it locks but....if i load my mag with gas for 10 seconds and i try to shoot after the 10sec load...when i finish the bb s the the bolt dosen t lock back...

when the mag is full of gas....the bolt does not lock after i shoot the whole bb s from the mag

@QuattroSG I agree! It's nice when a more affordable brand makes a cool replica that's actually good. I had heard good things about E&C, and the photos of the gearbox looked promising so I went for this and it paid off!

That's probably the best idea right there!

To each their own. I don't want to deal with the impractical aspects of GBBs but I want the fun of it still lol. I'm happy with it. And idk how you're hopping .40s with yours but the best mine could do was .30s with the hop completely maxed out

@@HappysAirsoft TM takes away the impractical though? Ive used gas rifles for a very long time and the mws is the best competitive rifle that hangs with everything gas rifles are supposed to be train worthy 30 rounds that’s it buy extras idk I see other people commenting that too just bugs the hell out of me lol the NGRS ARG Series is what you want recoil 120 round mags the last bullet makes you take the mag out an hit the bolt gas rifles are ment to put you in the most realistic scenario possible but man It’s like buying a Lamborghini and putting a Honda civic engine in it Lamborghini being the gas rifle Honda civic being the hpgay engine in it but like you said to each their own people will destroy their rifle an what’s left is the people you trigger along the way lmao 😂 as long as your having fun is the name of the sport but for now #justiceforyourpoorMTR16 may it find a better home lol 😂

@TooSynical yeah I get that gas rifles are supposed to be for the realism and that's great! But I play mostly for fun. If I want realism that badly, I go shoot my real AR-15 at a range lol. I get that's not the point though. I've skirmished with gas guns with gas only mags and I find it too impractical, even if it's an MWS. You still only have 30rounds vs everyone else using 150-250 round mid caps in AEGs. You still have to refill gas way more frequently. You still get more inconsistency between shots than an HPA GBBR or AEG. It takes you way long to reload a GBBR mag on field. That's what I mean. With my adapter, I have excellent consistency, I have everyone else's ammo capacity, I don't have to carry green gas/propane tanks on me and fill in between games, and I can use this in 45°F weather more practically. But again to each their own. And I'd say you're car analogy isn't on point. Swapping your GBB to HPA only increases performance, it just takes away from The realism. The better comparison is like when people LS swap an RX-7. Yeah it's more practical and reliable... but that's not the point of owning an RX-7 lol

Nope! This bad boy is all metal!

For the suppressor, I scraped it off. For the tip, I scraped some of it off and the rest I just left on since the suppressor is always on it

This one has 19 teeth on it

@HappysAirsoft did you open up the gearbox and counted the teeth? the cylinder dosnt look like a full lenght 2.5

@motanugras6851 I did not however someone else did on TH-cam and I'll link you the video. Also I put a regular cylinder next to mine off camera and this one has a longer cylinder th-cam.com/video/7K0Z9UZygyo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_Nz92oEs3Vcx-sO2 Go to around 8 minutes to see the internals

​@HappysAirsoft Yeah ik, I've watched the hole video. The video you've linked me was the video I was searching, thanks! The sector gear has 19 teeth and the set looks compatible with sr25 style gear sets ( the spur gear is bigger and thicker than normal v2/v3 gears)

@motanugras6851 yeah no problem! It should take SR25 style parts inside. So far this gun has been pretty awesome for me!

Yeah I would say file it down just a little bit like that to get it right where you want it. If you need more, then just take off tiny bits at a time until it's just right

Why thank you! I appreciate that! 🙏

Oh no! Sorry for the late reply. I was asleep. But in order to open the gun back up, you need to take the stock and buffer tube off so you can pull the buffer and spring out the back end of the gun.

I ran that Option No 1 in my stoner for a while but eventually took it out since it was a bit too fast for my liking. I think as long as you have a nice neo magnet brushed motor plus good shimming, it's fine for LMGs. I think the best part of a brushless is the semi auto response. It's so quick!

Thank you! It's such an amazing track from that game!

I already swapped to an ASG 22K motor and I noticed the excess barrel grease as well! I swapped to a prometheus 6.03 tightbore now with a Maple leaf 75° bucking. It's shooting pretty nicely and can hop .40g bbs pretty well! Overall, I really like this gun!

I appreciate the sub and supportive comment! I'm glad I could help you decide on your next gun. A lot has changed in 7-8 years!

I have not taken the outer barrel off on one of these so sadly, I don't have one

Oh man, I didn't know they got that bad on evike. That's sad that their servers can't handle the traffic from those

TODAY the evike 4th of July box was SOLD OUT in 2 minutes ! And I still got charged but I didn’t make it; even though I was at 6:00 pm pushing the buy button

@gabysilverio9828 that's insane!! I wonder how people even manage to get them then? Hopefully they give you a refund though!

@@gabysilverio9828 i think there is a time zone issues because it seems like some people can snipe them way more consistently than others if they are in certain areas

Heck yeah! I heard ICS guns handle brushless motors like Champs

@@HappysAirsoft after 7 years of Airsoft.. i will only buy ics. Or a good build retro arms Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

@xrazerzx470 heck yeah! I love the outreach TH-cam can have for airsoft! As for ICS, I'm personally staring to like that brand a lot. I think it gets a bit underrated.

I've had pretty good luck with maple leaf in other platforms so I assumed part of the bad accuracy came from the recoil. But hey, you know what, I'll give a Unicorn barrel a try! I'm always looking for improvements!

Maple Leaf is still the go-to in AEGs mostly. Unicorn really gained favor for the excellent value for money, specially the bucking. I had bad luck with maple leaf in my HK416A5 GBBR, changing it out to a modify x-range made the thing shoot laser beams. Will put my money where my mouth is and buy a unicorn set for my pistols though. Thanks for the videos you did for the L6, really helped me decide whether or not i should buy one. Definitely buying one now lol

@Jerv165 Yeah maple leaf AEG buckings have served me and my friends quite well. But I actually have yet to try Unicorn in GBBs. I'm thinking about grabbing one for my MK23 now. I'd rather throw it in there since accuracy is the main priority for that gun. I'm glad my videos on the L6/Desert Eagle helped you make your decision! It's a fun gun for sure!

It is a normal AEG motor, which means it has "brushes" if you will

I actually was trying to use white lithium grease in very thin doses but I think that's a terrible choice for GBBRs. When I received it, it was dry as hell and that's all I had sadly

I broke one shortly after I got it, but ever since I replaced that one, it's been good!

@@HappysAirsoft my nozzle broke after 1 week low using, now I'm order new nozzle. Hope it going good

I wouldn't either, but that's what Rocket Airsoft calls it when you search for it online. I wanted to call it by its name so people could look it up for themselves and see what I was comparing here is all

After a year of owning it, the only thing I have now replaced is the hop up bucking and that's it! I don't run it on green gas either. I've been running it on an HPA adapter set up at around 115-120PSI which is close to green gas output anyways

Damn! You put in the maximum effort to get one of these! Well A for the effort! 🤣 but yeah what you ended up getting is a good alternative though for sure.

@@HappysAirsoft well originally i wanted the UMP45 bc I loved running it in SWAT 4, n the EBB and the rave reviews on its stock performance did it for me, instead of getting those expensive af Maria Next Gen EBBs. But someone also commented that their EBB bolt thing broke n it was impossible for them to get it fixed since ARES does a a lot of proprietary stuff like the CA Nemesis and PXG9 etc. Funny thing I run with a group of English speakers n foreigners and literally none of them use AEGs. They also have a semi auto rule like it’s Germany/Austria or smth. Guess makes sense since fields around there are 90% indoor n they’re also kinda claustrophobic cos most use renovated ex industrial parks etc. Personally I’d like to see more of the amazing multi level laser tag fields you get abroad but I get it’s not really an airsoft thing. Also most Airsoft fields here only do gel blast and nerf.

@dillonnikolausmatteusl3075 eventually, one of the return springs for my EBB bolt on the UMP broke so I disabled it. But yeah I love our outdoor multi level fields/courses we have here in the United States. That's awesome you have a good bond with a group of foreigners! And there is a huge surge of people who have ditched AEGs for either HPA, or GBBs

The spring in the gun is an M115ish grade spring

I've lowkey been wanting their FAL, it looks sick!

The stock one can do .28s alright. But for .30s or heavier, id say a Maple leaf decepticon (60° or 70°)

@@HappysAirsoft thanks 👍👍, great vid btw

Yeah I've seen people make mods like that too and it looks awesome! I just got mine right and I use an HPA adapter for my MTR so I can fine tune to FPS output by changing my PSI a bit.

@@HappysAirsoft Yeah I am currently on HPA awell, wish I could go back to gas mags, but it's 5Celcius outside, tuning the power to be atleast over 1J causes the gun not to function properly :/

@edvinasz918 ah, yeah 5°C is pretty cold. I don't run Gas for that reason too. I play in lots of weather like that or only slightly warmer. Plus green gas is so annoying to run, and expensive.

@@HappysAirsoft Yeah just that the hose is annoying and no bolt lock :D Or did you tap the mags?

@edvinasz918 Yeah the hose is like a dog leash. And no, I'm using an airtac uk m4 mag adapter so no bolt lock for me too lol

Yeah you can use it with no mosfet