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close them all to non tesla owners.

This is exactly what I tried to warn people about when every car maker decided to adopt Tesla's charging ports and networks. They lure you in with promises of a good standard, but once everyone is hooked they beat you up for your money and control.

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Non Tesla sick of non Tesla cars hogging stations

I love the tech nativism going on in the Tesla camp. 😂

I'm in the USA, but when I took my rented Tesla 3 to a Tesla charging lot, there were 20 charging stations and I was the only one there. And this was in the middle of the day. I don't know how much Tesla pays to keep the lot running, plus taxes and rental fees, but I would think having more people paying money would be a big help to off setting cost.

It's not worth it.....

So owning a 2007, Mazda 5 . . . I'm Stuffed then?

The biggest problem is cars that take up two charging points to charge one car. Cars that have the charging hatch so they can charge at Tesla and stand in one place are no problem. Was on vacation this summer and there were lots of charging stations that were occupied by cars that are on two charging boxes. In addition, the navigation indicates that these seats are vacant even though it is a car that takes up two seats, which is extremely annoying.

The agreement that Tesla signed up to when trying to acquire as many sites as possible in the uk was that they would open them up to none Tesla Ev’s. And in accordance with the new rulings all chargers that are open to all must have a contactless payment system. It’s alright Tesla shouting but I see many a Tesla on a none Tesla charger because there were no superchargers near by. Tesla drivers get the cost on there charger’s at a reduced rate unlike us. So what are they complaining about. Anyway it’s pointless me using one as my car can’t take the high speed charge because it has the 800 volt system being a Kia Ev6 the max it will give me is about 60 kw.

Most Supercharger locations are underutilized where i live, generally 25% of the stalls in use, so i don't have a problem with Tesla opening those up to non Teslas but for heavily trafficed locations i would hope that Tesla would limit those sites to Tesla only. I also want to see Tesla limit charging of non Teslas to 80%. Tesla limits charging to 80% when sites get to 50% occupancy. NonTeslas have their charge ports on the wrong side so they take up two spots so Tesla should apply the crowded location policy to nonTeslas all the time.

The EV market is a fast moving and ever changing landscape. Tesla doesn't have infinite insight into how things will work. They took a bold move to open up their superchargers. They are just tweaking their network for optimal use. I would do the same thing.

I think Tesla may have under estimated the weight their charging network plays on people buying their cars. If I can now buy the EV I really like and want, plus get the convenient of the Tesla charging network, then why buy Tesla?

this guy is a huge tesla shill

Tesla Superchargers need to be exclusive to Tesla owners. Other EV producing companies and the government could have invested with Tesla in building the most reliable charging infrastructure, which no other company wanted to invested

Brilliant on Tesla. Give non Tesla owners an appetizer of the awesomeness of the Tesla charging experience and then remove the plate. What an incentive to switch to Tesla vehicles! Tesla currently owns the charging game.

It's ok if the charge port is properly positioned to use the Supercharger layout. That should have been a condition for using the SC network long term. But Tesla didn't require it .....

WELL DONE TESLA👌

Presumably because earlier superchargers V2 and V3 don't have long enough cables and numpties in charging ports in other than the same location as Teslas are blocking chargers?

30% is not a lot

This is a UK based story. The CCS2 standard in Europe has nothing to do with J3400 adoption in N/A.

Teslas was brought into being in order to electrify cars. Is that no loger the case?

In all my road tripping, have used a Tesla charger just once. It doesn't make one bit of difference whether they open them up to other brands or not. Delusions of grandeur...

Nice detectoristing ;) from both of you! That was very entertaining, many thanks.

If the other EV’s dominate a Tesla supercharger then I’m guessing it needs to be Tesla only. Maybe space is at a premium. Get my MY 🍒 tomorrow so wish me luck.

In Finland many stations are open to other EVs, however I have not seen a single non-Tesla on superchargers this summer. This is most likely due to Tesla pricing themselves out of the competition. Even the Tesla owner prices at superchargers are higher than most chargers. I currently have 20k km free supercharging and no home charging, so I visit a supercharger once a week or once in two weeks.

Remember it’s a lot cheaper for government to force the largest most reliable network owner to open their private units to all, than actually do anything about charging infastructure.

Tesla Solihull have four chargers exclusive for their sales cars plus 6 open to all. Are you sure that the Tottenham centre hasn’t done the same - the only way to find out is to visit the site!

Looks like a special case of Central London, being London it has issues and requirements that really don't exist elsewhere. Hopefully this isn't a rollback there are some parts of the country eg Northumberland where there's nothing other than the Tesla chargers and not much else for some distance.

It Will only bring more hate to Tesla...

It’s pretty widely known that Tesla opened up their superchargers for government credits. That’s why they reluctantly put magic docs on all of them and card readers. It’s actually very in keeping with their commitment to their shareholders not the adoption of EV’s but it’s cute that you thought this was an altruistic thing. I’m not a hater, just telling the truth.

I think the latest Tesla Superchargers open to all have chargers in the middle of the parking spaces

Great to see that Tesla seems to be watching how well shared chargers are coping. Nice to see they will close them off if need be.

The only reason I bought that adapter from GM was just in case there was some sort of emergency and a Tesla Supercharger was the only thing available then I could use it. My goal is to NEVER use DC fast charging; it costs too damned much. The point of having an EV is the ability to charge at home for lower cost. When I charge at super off peak rates I'm paying about 4.5 cents a kwh verses 47 cents at the Supercharger; that is 10 times more! That is more than gasoline prices in some areas, if you're willing to pay that kind money why not just buy a cheaper gas car in the first place? No one likes hearing this but if you can't charge at home, then don't buy an EV; it's just not worth it.

I was hopeful that Tesla would open all Superchargers to the public, allowing me to sell my Tesla and consider purchasing a BMW or Audi. It would be quite a shocker - Tesla supporting their customer base, there has to be another reason.

A similar / parallel incident about ATMs happened in Philippines. An ATM pioneer bank installed the largest ATM network nationwide. Other banks (late to install ATMS) could not compete; so they decided to pool resources and offered interoperability - anyone can access any ATMs within this group except the arrogant pioneer. Fast forward to today: the pioneer's ATM card holders has to pay hefty fees to access the other banks' ATM. You can guess who is the loser in this story.

Last week, there were quite a lot of non-Tesla's at Amesbury (A303) and Exeter (M5). Didn't see that a year ago.

”We will see said the blind to the deaf as the lame are polevaulting” is no joke anymore. Great video.

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Tottenham supercharger is ridiculously over crowded and also a very tight site. I charged my MG4 here last Dec 23, but there was a queue and I charged only 10 mins but seeing non Teslas camping going to 100% probably taxis etc on cheap rates. Totally understandable.

Shame they are closing a brand new V4 station that on the face of it, was specifically designed to be open to all from day 1. A closure of a v2/3 closure would feel more likely, but i guess they have a lot of demand for them with the lower prices.

In the whatcar recent test on YT Polestar came out on top?

Tesla can do whatever they want now I've got a Tesla 😊. Interestingly the open to all in Haven't on the south coast was charging 90p per kWh non Tesla's so they are needing to put off some users.

I was going to say when I get a Tesla I will want the network for fellow Tesla owners only :-), however with the current lot in charge of the UK I’ll be lucky if I can afford an e-bike after their tax raid on anyone that has more than two pennies to rub together!

So to summarise, the sites will stay open to all as long as people aren’t being twats.

The question is, would Ford have opened their network if they had one? I think not.

Tesla's mission was *always* to make EVs supplant ICE. Sharing juice-up locations serves that purpose. Currently, societies are at the heel of the transition, so resellers like Shell and other Carbon Companies who see their oil profits seeping through the planks of the boardroom floor into unsustainability can insert themselves into the still lucrative public charging networks structure. Unfortunately for them, time will prove that they can't buy a plot of the Sun and exploit it for profit. Solar, and especially solar & wind backed by BESSs, will make individuals independent from lucre-grubbing profiteers. A hard fall's a comin' for the Greasy Guys...

Just got back from a 2,039 mile trip in my MYLR. Supercharged a lot. No issues, ever. I also never saw but one car that wasn't a Tesla at any of the superchargers.

I think Tesla is seeing, at least in the U.S.A, that the OEMs aren't serious about producing as many EVs as they might have indicated to Tesla earlier. That makes it fairly easy for Tesla to allow the OEMs to use up to half of the Tesla chargers in the US. However over on your side of the pond there are tons of EVs being sold and the Chinese are coming in with their cars. This means that congestion at Tesla chargers could easily cause issues. I'm wondering if there are laws in place, in that area you are talking about, ensuring that Tesla cannot charge a premium to non-Tesla EVs? That may explain why they closed the site to non-Teslas all together rather than just making the price to charge non-Teslas exhorbitant.... which also might have worked?

That What Car "efficiency Test" wasn't an efficiency test - it was a range test - it was a test to see how far all the vehicles would go on a single charge from 100% down to zero - and the Polestar 2 won achieving 333 miles.