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I TRIED learning french like a polyglot- Language Experiment: Bidirectional Translation
This is esteemed polyglot, Luca Lampariello's language learning method. I put it to the test to learn French. It's awesome.
My Listening and Reading only (Comprehensible Input) Experiment:
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My Traditional French Class experiment:
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What do you think of my handwriting?
0:00 Intro
0:32 The basics and my story so far
1:42 The Intermediate Plateau
2:47 Starting Point: Speaking sample
4:29 Bidirectional Translation in more detail
6:25 For people with normal jobs
9:42 The results: my French after the experiment
12:42 Pros and Cons
16:07 Conclusions
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  • @bakmaratya1963
    @bakmaratya1963 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WFT..dude, that story is worth a movie about a broken predatory guy looking for volunteers. In Spain i had such an amazing experience with a host i found

  • @penultimaparada
    @penultimaparada 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    03:00 - You should just had gone immediately!! We are doing this for two years now, and everytime we have a bad experience, in the first sight of abuse we go!!!

  • @marioworld9261
    @marioworld9261 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not liking American people but hiring an American so you can pay less than paying a native citizen of France is diabolical

  • @some-asian
    @some-asian 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Upset that you don't tell him good night tf he think you his wife or something? And that daughter and bed shit had me disgusted .and tf u mean I'm a naughty boy 💀 if you don't get yo old freaky ahh outta here .yeah nah if heard him say that i would be like yep that's it i ain't doing all thIs shit like wth i guess the dude is single and have problems being alone or he has some serious mental health issues he needs to address

  • @mariiris1403
    @mariiris1403 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's the point in overpowering what you say with such a disturbing and loud music?

  • @asmabwendy8688
    @asmabwendy8688 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not so bad ! I am french, I have feebacks from foreigners who are learning french and it's a réal challenge for them. I hope they and you will succeed on learning french

  • @killer-motivation742
    @killer-motivation742 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pls don't upload that kind of background music😒

  • @sesameseednothankyou7893
    @sesameseednothankyou7893 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, I’m thinking about going to France with Worldpackers this summer. Did the host you went to have a top host badge?

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He didn’t, but he did have good reviews! Which was silly on my part lol. Go! You’ll have an adventure regardless.

  • @lukaz2040
    @lukaz2040 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw similar situations back when I was doing CouchSurfing. This must have been awful for you, I am sorry you had to go through it. Luckily, this is usually the exception. Just like you said, most people have a great experience. Thanks for sharing this, man!

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching! I’m glad I got to learn from it haha

  • @Shai8212
    @Shai8212 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m traveling right now. I am in a remote area. Everything‘s cool. I like where I’m at! I did tell myself if I do this again it will be in cities though. Because I wonder if I didn’t like it here and the host didn’t want to take me to the airport. I’m literally stranded, I am literally at their mercy and I don’t like that feeling 😂

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I agree! I hated the feeling lol

  • @PauloMaierr
    @PauloMaierr 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video!

  • @tommyhuffman7499
    @tommyhuffman7499 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty sure he was just looking for someone to sleep with and possibly gets a kick out of creeping people out or bullying them. You shouldn't have been so polite to him. Sounds like he was a real jerk. Sorry about your experience. I've met strangers in foreign countries many times. Mostly positive experiences, and the one bad experience I had I chock up to poor planning and cultural misunderstanding on my part, because we have since made up. Definitely never had a bad experience like yours.

  • @mpessan
    @mpessan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marcus, when you hear a sentence in a foreign language, what is the bit of information among all the words you recognized as an independent semantic unit that you consider to be the pivot of the whole sentence to be understood?

  • @Nelson-Cs
    @Nelson-Cs 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Luca says that he uses the BdT method at the early stage of his learning, so it is aimed for beginners.

  • @davidt3796
    @davidt3796 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can use ChatGPT for this because it can indicate if your translation is still valid. GPT only though I would say. Here’s the prompt I used: I want to practise my language skills using bidirectional translation. That means I will translate a short text from my target language into English and then translate it back into my target language from English. I will provide the text below. For the first answer window please choose one short section for me to translate into English and you will give me feedback on that. I will then attempt to translate back into my target language and you will give me feedback on that translation too.

  • @viajay
    @viajay 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    average french experience

  • @Ledturbeaux
    @Ledturbeaux 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate the transparency. Too many clickbait snakeoilers on YT

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And thank you for watching!

  • @MorphfitTrainingSystems
    @MorphfitTrainingSystems 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you should buy Luca Lampariello's course. He is the OG polyglot on planet earth. I also think you're logic is flawed. While fundamentally you didn't put much effort over the last 8 months... had you used the correct method during that time (Which is the Bi-Directional Translation method *a complete form of "comprehensible input as opposed to just Listening practice)... then you would have reached B2 (upper intermediate level) in All aspects of language (Comprehension/Speaking/Writing/Reading). Also... and this may be hard to hear... but using the Assimil French text and the Bi-Directional Translation method from Luca Lampariello, would have brought you to that level in approximately 100 hours of EFFORTFUL study. The idea that passive learning is better because it's effortless fails to highlight the "opportunity-cost" of valuabel months of your life simply passing you by. Sure... you didn't expend a lot of energy in 8 months...but you also didn't acheive the only objective of langauge learning... which is TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE with a human being. And if you know that other people have figured out how to do this in 1-3 months... then the real question is.... does 8 months of NOT achieving the primary goals... outweigh the 100 hours of "effort/energy" you supposedly saved? I think not. "Carpe Diem" would dictate that you should attack everything in life with HIGH EFFORT and a sense of urgency... on the simple basis that you're mortal... and you'd best master a craft sooner to enjoy the fruits of your labor for longer.

  • @OussoDeBeng
    @OussoDeBeng 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm french and it was good bro

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!

  • @soutanorogami7444
    @soutanorogami7444 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just started to learn French and for me, as for beginner, you're french is great. Thanks for a video, I think, i can try this method myself. And thanks again.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! Good luck!

  • @user-wr3rm3cs7z
    @user-wr3rm3cs7z 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not that he didn't like you, it's the fact that he's miserable and there is no pleasing him.

  • @marth9660
    @marth9660 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The intermediate plateau…… I feel like I’ve been there forever.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We will climb out…eventually

  • @tommyhuffman7499
    @tommyhuffman7499 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've largely been agaisnt translating over the last 10 years of language study. In the very beginning stages it's necessary. But as soon as possible I avoided translating as much as possible. I think this may be best for intermediate students, but as an advanced learner, I've started to incorporate some native to foreign translation into my studies (inspired by Luca). And it certainly can be helpful. Personally, I find just reading in the target language helps the most with understanding, but it doesn't help me with production. I'm incorporating translation mainly to help with speaking, producing the foreign language. I love your analytical approach.

  • @markcassle3828
    @markcassle3828 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I definitely heard a difference between the two recordings that I am inspired to add this to my acquiring the french language. Thank you.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love to hear it, thank you!

  • @walterwhite003
    @walterwhite003 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You said compare results (plural) but you only showed the after?

  • @dorotamusialik-czajaszybka4991
    @dorotamusialik-czajaszybka4991 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cuanto cuesta este curso?

  • @sebastienlopezmassoni8107
    @sebastienlopezmassoni8107 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use association and island. Read book in a field that interest in record few sentences afterwards and listening my record as a dictation and writing down.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very cool, love the focus on your interests!

    • @sebastienlopezmassoni8107
      @sebastienlopezmassoni8107 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MethodMarcus learn on your interest help you to commit in the learning language process. I have bought ten books on Vinted in the art field that make the learning more pleasant and improve both thing at once.

  • @NolithaHopkins
    @NolithaHopkins 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought that it was a double-blind review. Or am I understanding that incorrectly? You leave your review, they leave theirs but they're both revealed at the same time? So neither one can respond or it is now a new thing?

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is a double blind review, but AFTER that, the host is allowed to respond to your review. I didn’t know about it either.

  • @BedouinBabeNomad
    @BedouinBabeNomad 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m so delighted things ended on a good note… I almost cried several times and could feel the anxiety & relief. Thanks for sharing. Wishing all, all the best & safe travels ✌🏽

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you thank you!

  • @mariefrenchtutor3180
    @mariefrenchtutor3180 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a French speaker. You are doing very well in French for the time you spent at it. Even at intermediate level, you have a good accent. already (My accent is very bad... so I am a bit jealous! 🙂) When learners first try to speak in their target language, they often worry about natives' reactions. Some of my students had bad experience with a native French speaker over correcting them, or criticizing their attempts. I don't get why anyone would do that. It's rude! I tell my students to forget the few jerks; they don't matter. Most people are happy we are trying to learn their language. Keep that in mind to maintain your motivation. Hats off to you for trying Luca Lampariello's bidirectional translation method. I admire Luca (who doesn't?) ... but his approach seems overwhelming to me. Good luck with your learning.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! Good advice to your students!

  • @elliuozaG
    @elliuozaG 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If I may, from hearing you speak, with French being one of my native languages, my advice to you would be to work on your pronunciation very seriously. That's a thing I personally do first. One of the reasons being that I want to feel confident about how I sound and not let bad habits fossilize. Learn that "ou" and "eu" once and for all, be hard on yourself. I hear you mispronounce a lot of the same phonemes. You also don't do the colloquial elisions that every French speaker does. There's also the issue of prosody and colocations/idioms. When you speak a language fluently you chain many words together without using your brain, they just come out as they must. It is related to pronunciation itself in that muscle memory plays a big role, your mouth knows better and does its thing. So, maybe reading/repeating aloud, recording yourself sometimes to compare, is a good idea. You know a lot of French, you lack automatisms.

  • @matt92hun
    @matt92hun 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do something similar sometimes, but I skip the translation to familiar language part, because I find understanding a language way easier than producing it. I just use text that either comes with a translation, or I translate it with DeepL, then translate that translation back to compare it with the original text. I think a more efficient way of this could be that I translate the original to another language I'm learning, then back, but that probably requires more patience and discipline than what I have.

  • @dramaqueen4934
    @dramaqueen4934 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    " i like to experiment with different methods for learning languages.." got me subscribed to your channel

    • @LanguageJoe
      @LanguageJoe 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same! Always looking for good experiments to change up my language learning routines

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wooo!

  • @thisismycoolnickname
    @thisismycoolnickname 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use a method where I pick a TV series with English subs, and I'm looking at the subs, I pause and translate it into the target language out loud. I find this method awesome because it solves the boredom problem. I'm not translating some boring text written on a piece of paper, I'm watching a fun TV show. I usually translate 10 to 20 minutes of the episode per day, depending on how tired I get. There's absolute no burning out because it's a lot of fun to speak like the characters in your favorite shows.

    • @stok.figuur
      @stok.figuur 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you mean an English show with English subs too, or just shows in the target language with English subs?

  • @fasteddylove-muffin6415
    @fasteddylove-muffin6415 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not even French & yeah you offended even ME. >>> I'm totally kidding. Love your channel & videos.

  • @labellavitall
    @labellavitall 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing. I might give this method a try. I generally load myself up with different resources and methods, and then just do what I feel motivated by the most on any given day rather than forcing myself to do anything in particular. On a day that I feel particularly unmotivated to spend much time with French I might only do a quick word match or speaking practice on Duolingo for 1 minute so I've at least thought about French for the day (I would argue this a benefit of paying for Super - having control over how much you learn, whether it be more or less than with the free version), and then find content in English that is about language learning, or French culture, or a TV show In English that I'm simultaneously watching in French. It really helps taking the pressure off. But then there are other days I might seem like a crazy person spending the majority of my day immersed in French while living in an English speaking country. I think ultimately you have to enjoy the process, so as much as some people swear by a particular method, I doubt there is a single method that would be effective for everyone. Not to say it wouldn't work at all, but I don't think it's effective if it demotivates you in the process.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "living like a crazy person" just sounds like dedication and immersion!

  • @grazynawolska8160
    @grazynawolska8160 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Theres a difference. You speak a bit more fluently. Congrats! I dont think id try this method but i eas thiking of copying kids books or short stories. For writing practice.

  • @Jonathan-gc1yb
    @Jonathan-gc1yb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    New subscriber and big fan! I find that my language-learning context mirrors yours to a surprising degree: I have tried and failed to learn one of my parents' native languages, and now, in my late 20s, find myself rather randomly two months into learning French. I found your video on your relationship with Vietnamese fascinating and well-spoken. Would love to connect sometime if you're up for it.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m flattered! Yup, there’s something intimidating about learning my family language!

  • @escabrosa1
    @escabrosa1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video, you explained it well. I've been noticing lately that people who have a strong trailing vocal fry while speaking English often don't have it when they speak French, or some other languages. You spoke clearer when speaking French. Much less croaking at the end of your sentence. While I'm not a fan of the affectation, I know some are, or at least don't mind it. Just thought I'd share my observation. Cheers.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting lol

    • @sycration
      @sycration 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Vocal fry is not phonemic but it is an important part of some English accents

    • @escabrosa1
      @escabrosa1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sycration It's an affectation that's irritating to some people, myself included. I mention it in an attempt to be helpful on the off chance that someone may be currently unaware.

  • @christopherrivera5924
    @christopherrivera5924 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you need to give it more time, and for this to be a fairer review, using his material would have been better to truly evaluate the process.

  • @smith-qk5xz
    @smith-qk5xz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a native french speaker, I definitely saw the difference between the two recording. Definitely there was mistakes and hesitation but I found you had a better flow. I'm learning filipino right now, I think I now reached this plateau you're speaking about, so I'm gonna give a try to this method

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great to hear!

    • @Matt-jc2ml
      @Matt-jc2ml 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I heard you guys get very angry when hearing English or less than perfect french. Surprised you managed to watch the whole video

    • @smith-qk5xz
      @smith-qk5xz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Matt-jc2ml I'm not french, I'm from Switzerland, where we also speak french. Not all french speakers are french, and actually I'm not even sure that this stereotype has any reality, even in France.

    • @Matt-jc2ml
      @Matt-jc2ml 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smith-qk5xz ah that makes sense then. I forgot about Switzerland. And belgium and Africa too for that matter. And idk that's what I hear about france and Quebec from everyone who goes there. I don't think they get that people learn english as a second language just for travel and don't want to learn a 3rd language just to visit france

    • @thenaturalyogi5934
      @thenaturalyogi5934 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Galing! Im learning French, Im a native Filipino speaker 🎉

  • @VictorsVideos
    @VictorsVideos หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great experiment, thank you for sharing!

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank YOU!

  • @deannaJesusIsLord
    @deannaJesusIsLord หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adding onto what I wrote already… I think this AI would be a great combination to the bidirectional translation. Once in a while, the person you choose to do the AI translation will pronounce some things wrong but if you have that basic knowledge of how to pronounce things you catch it right away and sometimes I will even tell it that it pronounced it wrong and tell it the correct way, and then it will fix it so I’m not sure about the other languages. They continue working on the little bugs and I see it improving all the time. It’s almost scary how good it is.

    • @deannaJesusIsLord
      @deannaJesusIsLord หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is nice that you can choose different teachers with different voices for a variety

  • @dees3179
    @dees3179 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video. But I did have to use subtitles because the music/voice mix was a bit mushed, especially at the start. Music seemed really loud but also distorted. I’m on iOS. Not sure if that’s relevant. It cleared up later on.

  • @philipdavis7521
    @philipdavis7521 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obviously, Lampariello knows a bit of what he’s talking about, but I must admit to being very sceptical about this method. It seems to me that all it will do is reinforce what you already know (and potentially reinforce errors) through active recall. Focusing for an hour on the language clearly helps, but I really wonder if this is any better than just spending an hour reading an interesting story in your target language.

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s funny you say that, there’s a section of the video that I cut out where I ramble about how it didn’t make sense to wait a day or two to correct your errors (as was the original suggestion) for this exact reason. I cut it out because it was a disjointed ramble, but in it I mentioned that I advocate for correcting whenever you want, or even looking for the correct phrase if you’re stumped so you don’t reinforce something that you incorrectly made up.

    • @aspiringcrone
      @aspiringcrone 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MethodMarcusMaybe it would be better to do it all on the same day, but in smaller chucks? So, work for the same amount of time, but translate a much smaller portion of the text. That way, you're getting immediate feedback and can immediately start using what you've learned when you translate another section the next day. The same words and grammar structures are likely to reappear in the same material, so you can start reinforcing what you've learned right away.

    • @matseklof2250
      @matseklof2250 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Actually Lampariello uses this Bidirectional method when he starts a new language only. Long before he reaches intermediate level he uses other methods. Also he always uses a textbook with short grammatical notes.

    • @jensburghardt4100
      @jensburghardt4100 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@matseklof2250correct. A bilingual textbook, Assimil. And it's not the first step of his routine.

    • @poohoff
      @poohoff 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Start with how many languages you're fluent in, otherwise nobody's interested in your opinion

  • @lisanne7449
    @lisanne7449 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the worst workaway expierence possible. Removing black mold, the man had no humanity

  • @lisanne7449
    @lisanne7449 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good you made this video

  • @ThuyKieuTuyetXuan
    @ThuyKieuTuyetXuan หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are so many language resources out there, but only some that work. For me, I personally prefer to use Immersive Translate to supplement my language learning process. I use it to translate webpages and documents, and even to watch Netflix every day, which has really helped me integrate myself in my target language.

  • @charliegirard
    @charliegirard หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sorry to hear this but I am french and I can definetely confirm you that this is not french people, you had been unlucky on this... :'( But it can happen, I recommend to go to cities instead of countryside..

    • @MethodMarcus
      @MethodMarcus หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree lol, I had a good experience with everyone else when I was there!

  • @ThuyKieuTuyetXuan
    @ThuyKieuTuyetXuan หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re right. The traditional method of going about language learning might not work out for everyone. For me, I found that what works the best is self-studying through Immersive Translate. It’s a browser extension that supports over 100+ languages. I personally use it to watch my shows and movies on Netflix every day, which has really helped me integrate myself in the language.