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the rails are more thinned out than the Seasdie for sure. The mashup is likely a good comparison. I didn't think to compare them on that specific characteristic. But from what I remember, yes, thinner for sure than the seaside.

@@ThomyeSurfs ok, well this is great to hear, and also not so great because it makes me want one even more HAHAHA. Thanks

I bought it on Amazon but I don't "fully" recommend it anymore. I used it about 15 times as a double, and a handful of times as a single. With the double, if you were to carry 2 small boards, it fine. When I was using it, a friend of mine that rides a bigger board asked me to carry his so i doubled up. The weight of his longboard plus my little board, eventually made the aluminum stretch so the entire thing bent. I bent it back and it still works so not a big deal but, thought you should know. So, if you only carried smaller boards, it's worth it. Anyways, I got mine on amazon. amzn.to/3ZwFFaF

yes, working on the review now. I basically put it in the category as a Baked Potato or Sweet Potato. Durability of the FW's seem better, but the Black Panda has a value you can't beat.

I would say 5'7. The 5'6 felt a tad too big for me and I'm 145. at your weight, maybe the 5'7. unless you are super tall, then go 5'8. haha

deck I'm not sure. I never had the OG so can't compare, sorry.

that would be super interesting.

dang, that is a steep price.

thanks as always. I was stoked on the entire process. I am planning to get a few more shaped by some local shapers in the coming years.

What length do you have? I've surfed the 6'9" and 7'8" and they feel very loose for the size.

@@ctrlb4213 the 6’9” . I’m only 5’8” and 150lbs and pretty much only ride shortboards or fishes before riding the FM

@@g35pm If you're use to riding shorter boards then an upper 6' twin can feel slow just cause of the wider turning radius. From my experience, the 6'9" FM doesn't grovel well despite what Thomye displays in the clips above. It doesn't have enough rail-line want to trim in really small waves, but it is also too long to pump/tick-tack easily either. Not sure if that relates to what you're experiencing or not. I found the board works best once it's at least stomach or chest high. Mileage may vary.

Maybe it's the lost connection between the shaper and glasser. I remember a shaper that used a another shop to glass, there were so many in the process that to get an idea right was so difficult. Unless you had a pic, odds of getting the right color was slim to none. My worst was a custom when I was young, and back then, money mattered way more so getting it wrong would mean surfing it for 2 to 3 years. LOL I asked for bright red almost hot pink fade to white. I got blood red fade to pink. :( haha I was so happy that I told Promer to just pick a color and design he thought was cool. exceeded all my expectations.

What size revo max did you get ?

Riding the 6’9, I’m 6’2 around 210-220. Thing is a blast.

@@MAXtoUKE Epic thanks, only reviews have been on smaller ones so be great to hear from you what you like about it and the waves you're liking it in. I'm thinking of the 6'9 as well to be a proper mid length rather than going the same volume as my short boards. I'm 200 lbs.

Yeah, the 6’9 is shaped very well and is refined like the smaller sizes- they didn’t cut any corners. For 200+ riders I feel like you should just go for a standard evo/Revo or an album plasmic for anything shorter for a similar outline/liters.

Awesome cheers - prefer it to the mid 6 ?

i was curious about that. I was thinking that if I did get it in PU, I would need it shorter to compensate for the swing weight.

I only surfed the mini moe once but had a good session frontside. Backhand however, it lacked rive. Having said that, I did have it set up as a quad. I think a thruster or possibly a smaller 2+1, smaller front fins with a bigger back trailer would work best. My buddy owns the board, I'll have to ask if he would consider loaning it to me.

yeah, the ceiling on the Mid6 is a lot higher for sure. I am keen to try the shorter mini versions, but I don't know a single person that has one. maybe @harleyingleby will lend me one. 😂

Not sure. I guess I could have remove the twinser but it was working so well. My understanding is it cleans up the water that actually hits the bigger fins

I think the effect of clean water is that there's no slipping. With my other twins pin I always feel I can't push too hard otherwise something breaks loose.

I had a 6'4 Cheet... It's nothing like the FM. It's an egg shape and for some reason paddles terrible and is not very forgiving. Over all its a slow board. Went to the 6'6 FM and It's night and day. Rocket ship!

the S&B went well, I remember the very angular cutbacks. With the tail and straighter rail line to the tail, it only makes sense. Not as forgiving and easy as the FM. Having said that, I need to get back on the S&B. When I reviewed it, it was the very first time I went from short board to mid. I feel like I've learned a lot so I may now have a more well rounded opinion of the S&B. Maybe things that felt too big would now feel better. Anyways, regarding the Sunday 6'8 in bigger surf, no, I have not taken it out on bigger days. I have a hard time duck diving it so often, if its too big, I'll just get caught inside and hurt my shoulders. The FM was 6 to 7 L less and duck dove decent. Enough for me to not loose too much ground. I'll have to try and surf the Sunday in similar waves to see how it goes.

@@ThomyeSurfs awesome I would like to hear your new feedback on the S&B. Maybe do a mid length comparison vid on the mid lengths you have been on. Like your vids keep em coming!

Awesome 🔥🔥🔥you look so confortable with this mid🔥🔥🔥great surfing Thomy👏👏👏

Yes, I would also be happy for a new review of the S&B (: ​@@leighrosendahl2734

the issue for me will be the length. I'll be riding the Max at 6'0 if I do get to ride it. A longer would be a good comparison but not sure I'll be able to get my hands on one.

Yeah the m23 is similar to something like the boss-up which the fence setups are more traditional, thruster and quad, which I think makes it probably sit in between the FM and the mid-6 so a little bit more performance not as much as the mid-6 but more than the FM. But the reason I love the FM is because of the fact that it gave me a really classic old school feel with the performance if that makes sense. I'm hoping to get on the boss up soon as well as the m23 but I don't really know anyone that has those boards.

@ thanks so much for your thoughts, I can get a m23 quite cheap and would be stoked if I can ride it like you are riding the FM. Failing that the FM is now definitely on my short list 🙌

My buddy just bought the 60. He said he would let me borrow it so hoping to get a review of that at some point. 🤙

Would love to see you do the revo max in a mid-length size

Thanks, just fixed it. :)

the cost makes it seem worth it. at the longer length, the board will be stable enough, I think it would be a great option. if you take your weight and divide it by 5, it should give you the smallest volume you should be on at your stage of surfing. For example, I'm 145, so for my it would be 29L at the least. Bigger is better at this stage, the more time you spend on your feet, the more progression you will have. Start there and let me know.

​@@ThomyeSurfsThanks a lot for your help! I will let you know as soon I grab one and test it a few times!

for my waves, I would say Seaside, then Cado, then SP. If I surfed HB or Tresltes more, maybe the Cado first, then the seaside. Having said that, of the three, for the smallest days, I would prefer the SP for uber groveling. Take into consideration that I would be surfing the SP 4L more than my other boards since 5'2 is the shortest version they have. Hope that makes sense.

@ Thanks for the response! If you don’t mind me asking one more question - what do you think feels less skatey and more stable. Cado or Seaside? Cheers!!

@@Tehwhsyeg77 Seaside, the swallow tail bites a little bit, just enough to make the board feel like it is on tracks. But the quad makes it loose when you need it. most versatile of the bunch

I haven't tried the Xero Fusion yet. I was just in a shop that had one and it felt amazing. But it was 1 size too big for me. :( It was in the new HiFi 3.0 construction and it reminded me of the Sharpeye FT in carbon that I have. I'm really interested in this board. As for the DD2 compared to RNF96, I haven't ridden the RNF96 so it is hard for me to say but based on design, the DD2 seems to be more performance oriented and the RNF96 being more grovel. I good indicator of this is width to height ratio. I tested the DD2 in a 5'7 which was only 19.25" wide. The RNF96 if I were to surf it at about the same liters, would be a 5'4 but the same width. it is taking the same amount of foam and putting it in a board 3" shorter. Anyways, it's a minimal difference. I think if your waves are bigger, then the DD2 is a better option. If the wave less than head high and medium to soft, then RNF96. Again, this is a guess since I haven't tried the RNF yet.