CI Bobby Quad Surfboard Review in Micro Sized Waves
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2023
- Got a chance to test out the Bobby Quad. It was tiny during my test window but I think it was a blessing in disguise. The board went extremely well and I had a blast. With its wide tail and flattish rocker, the board proved to be a fantastic groveler. It can be a good board for beginners if sized up and a great board for high end intermediate to advanced. For some intermediate surfers that size their boards bigger, it might seem too tight and boggy. I have read and heard mixed reviews but the common theme with those that dislike teh board seems to be that they are oversized.
Personally, I think it has to do with their fins. The NVS/AIPA pivots might have helped the situation.
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Surfer: 5'8" 145lbs
Surfboard: 5'4" x 19 3/8" x 2 3/8" @ 27.4 L
Fins: NVS/AIPA Sequencer and Horseman (pivot and raked for different conditions)
Traction: Not sure, it was a demo board and I didn't look
Leash: FCS 6' Helix
Wetsuit: Volcom 4/3 Modulator
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your reviews are always spot on. heaps of footage. great analysis. and not just about, "hey! - time to buy another board!"
Great review! You always fire me up to surf even on micro days. Thank you.
very impressed on how well you are able to surf it in what look like normal conditions on the great lakes where i am. great review & info
That board really look awesome ! Nice surfing !
Thanks for the review! You make the board look like fun.
Great review! I live the micro wave surf footage!
great surfing and your videos are well done! Cheers
Love the turn at 7:06
Crazy how well that goes in those waves !
Great review thanks for sharing
Sweet! Thanks
Very nice and detailed review, as usual :) did you ever try the quad set of endorfins ? Curious about what you think about it
no, I have not tried them. I have buddy who has the 2+1 and loves them. I'll see if he has the quads and is willing to let me borrow them.
When you say people who don’t like it bought too big, can you give an example of what the right sizing is according to you?
There is no easy answer to this. It would depend on your skill level and what you are trying to achieve. If you already have one and don't like it, you think it is too tight and doesn't respond, it is either too big or you are running the wrong fins. When I borrowed this board for the demo, they gave me some raked back al merrick fins but they gave me 2 right rear fins so I couldn't use it. I had to use my own fins. I recommend the NVS AIPA Sequencer for 1 of two type of conditions. Small like this video or punchy with a tight pocket. The horseman or any other raked back fins for longer walls.
Regarding the pivot, I would say the Sequencers are special. they not only are more upright and most pivot fins, they are bigger at the base and middle but have a very small tip. Also, the rear fins are smaller. As a quad, they have a massive vacant space between the front and rear fins making them super loose and easy to swivel. Key for a bigger tail or board.
To help with sizing, I'm 145 and rode the 27.1 L, if I divide that the ratio is .18897. To ride it the same ratio as me, take your weight and multiply that number. Example, if you weigh 175 (x.18897=) you should ride, 33.07L. If you skill level isn't quite there, use a slightly higher multiplier. .2 to .22. To help keep the board size down, get the spine-tek which will float a tad better and help with catching wave. Another complicated matter is the surfers height and weight. If you are tall and skinny, this board works in your favor. if you are short and stalky, the stock boards might end up being too long for you. You should get it custom instead.
Anyways, again, no easy answer. I wish I could give you one. but too many factors. Another huge factor that no one thinks about is that one's skill level isn't across the board. Looking at me for instance, my paddling is high intermediate, my positioning is advanced, my surfing generally is low advanced, my down the line tick tacking, high advanced, my airs, beginner, LOL. Sometimes, my paddling screws up my sizing if I use it to pick a board. Hope that makes sense. I just don't want to give you a generic answer. I would need to have a bunch of information to really answer this accurately.
Great review as always! Got a question for you when you get time. I was out of the water for about a year due to an ankle injury. When I was able to start surfing again I got a 6'8" Sunday (thanks to your reviews) and it really helped me get my confidence and skill back. One of my favorite boards I've ever owned. Now that I am progressing more I am looking to get back on a board that leans more high performance and can handle both mushy and punchy beach breaks. The Bobby Quad seems like it would be fun but just curious to hear what you'd recommend coming from a Sunday? For context I'm 6'4" @ 180lbs. I surf around lower jetties and Bolsa. I'd say I'm a mid to upper end intermediate surfer. I really appreciate any advice you might have and thanks for all the amazing reviews you do!
good thing is you got height on your side. The Mashup and BQ are similar in that they are both flatter boards. BQ had a wider tail so might do better on the weaker waves with the Mashup just edging on the punchier stuff. although neither are really meant for punchy waves in my opinion. Bobby himself would disprove my statement for sure but for us average folk, the flatness and curvier outline make these boards better in softer waves. Since we surf about the same place, Bolsa , you know how it is there. Both boards are good choices.
Having said that, I guess the first thing you have to do is figure out where you want to land as far as volume. The 6'8 Sunday is 48L so let's say you wanted to be around 40L, give are take. Earlier I said you had height on your side. The good thing is, both the Mashup and BQ should be ridden shorter than your height. doesn't mean it won't surf bigger but to get the most out of performance, shorter is better.
volume to height, both boards are super similar. i think the 6'0's are both 38 liters. the 6'2's are around 41 to 42. I can confidently recommend either of these but one thing to keep in mind is that the Mashup is helium and the BQ comes in EPS (spinetek) and PU. if you do decide on the BQ, make sure it is the spinetek just so you get a bit more buoyancy. Mind you, that the Sunday is also helium so 48L on that board floats more like 50 to 52.
Again, this is just a general recommendation. I don't know much else about fitness and paddle, etc. you have to sort of decide on the volume. with that said, if you are mid to upper int, I would definitely say challenge yourself. go with the 6' over the 6'2. if the waves suck, get back on the Sunday. surf the smaller board in bigger waves for now and let your fitness catch up.
Lastly, i'm 5'8 and surfed the 5'4 Mashup and BQ. so 4" shorter than my height. you surfing the 6'0 would be roughly the same, I think a natural inclination would be to be scared of going too low in volume and end up on the 6'2 or 6'4. Which would work as well but if you want to up the performance game, take the chance. one thing is for sure, try to keep both those board shorter than your height and at max, at your height.
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8:41 Looks like the surfing hippy checking out the waves.
I find your reviews are the most relatable to me. You a 1" taller than me and same weight. I think you are 54 year's old and i am 45( but I feel 55)😆 Also the surf conditions you often have are similar to mine. In north east Scotland. I also have a 5'7 mashup that i like. But i think i went too big. Ive just ordered a 5'5 in volcanic. After seeing you on your 5'5 😎
Lol. Sometimes I feel 65. Lol. I turn 54 this year and I remember reading that if you want to live 30% longer you have to eat 30% less. So I live now on a full-time intermittent fast diet. I think it's helping. I want to try a volcanic. It fells really light weight. Let me know how it goes on the shorter mashup.
@@ThomyeSurfs it is also inspiring to see someone older than me getting above the lip and popping airs. It gives me hope! 🤣
@@jimbokiwi9322 now if I can just land a reverse, I can retire. LOL
Awesome
I ended up adquiring the rocket wide, mainly because I was afraid of which volume and size to choose for the Bobby; I wish I had this demo days down in Portugal
Estás a gostar do RW? Que tamanho?
The rocket wide should work similar to the BQ. Conceptually I would think it would. I will try and get hold of one and see about a review.
@@ThomyeSurfsI have the spine tec rocket wide, less volume in nose and tail and wide point is more neutral. Bobby quad will def preform better on catching smaller waves but rocket wide does carry so much speed while feeling like a HP board and can do tight manoeuvres. I chose it over the mashup because I wanted a normal deck and it definitely feels more performance than the mashup
@@foxgd9117 yeah, it's got a bit more rocker which helps with performance in punchier waves. Mashup is relatively flat and does well on softer smaller waves. for me, I'm basing this on design, unfortunately, I have not tried the RW. My buddy borrowed one a while back for demo day. I definitely want to try it. I need to make a chart of where I think boards shit on the grovel/performance spectrum.
Another excellent review Thomye. I would love your thoughts on a comparison between the Booby Quad and the Twice Baked that you previously reviewed. Looking at your footage of the two boards, it looks like the BQ has a lot more get up and go off the start. This is surprising given that the TB has 3L more volume at the same length. I’m waiting for my Baked Potato to die before buying a replacement. The BP was my all time favorite SoCal grovel board. I assumed I would go for the TB until the BQ came out. I’m very intrigued especially given that I live in SB around the corner from Bobby. I would love your thoughts on which board you prefer and why. If you had the time, you could quite easily make a direct comparison video with footage you already have. 😜 just a thought. Keep up the great work. You make it so easy for me because we are same size, weight, and approx age.
that's a hard one. mostly cuz I would not put them in the same category of boards. The BQ is more like my Mashup in terms of volume to length and performance that I can get out of it. The TB is like you mention, 3L more and although I love it, it is slugish by way of width and the extra volume. The difference is, my TB would have caught those waves and not need me to work as hard. So for someone that is low intermediate, say learning to pump and get up and go, TB is a better choice. For someone high intermediate, that has the rough skills for pumping, tick tacking, etc. The BQ would help refine those skills.
The benefit the TB has is that it has more vol to length. So someone that needs 31L could buy a 5'3 TB and still skate around. Better for short stocky dudes. But a 31L BQ is quite long. It would then need more effort to push around. For me, since I was surfing the BQ at 5'4, I was able to move it around easily. Having said that, the 5'1 TB might be very similar to the 5'4 BQ in get up and go. But losing the rail length would make the TB feel too short.
@@ThomyeSurfs Great insights, I was wondering the same. And BQ vs Mashup do you have any preference?
@@fox.709 I've been asked this quite a bit, they are similar in liters, width with the only real different being, the mashup hides some of the volume in the thickness while the BQ puts it in the width of the nose and tail, but keeps it relatively thin.
I haven't tried surfing my mashup in such small waves. I will have to in order to give them a good comparison. I mentioned that my Mashup was faster with the Knox but to be completely fair, the wave on the Mashup was also bigger on average.
Hopefully I'll get a chance, but I have a few boards on loan so I need to surf them first when I get the chance. :)
@@ThomyeSurfs Makes sense. No worries, keep us updated :) Thanks for your time.
Hey Thomye, great review! What are your thoughts on this board compared to the hypto krypto? I know they are different setups, quad vs thruster, however, you seemed to like both of these boards in your reviews and wanted to see how you compare them and which you would choose for a Socal groveler through to medium-sized waves. Thanks!
to keep it brief, I would say the BQ for smaller waves, the HK for bigger waves. The HK is fun up front, better paddle, easy to catch waves, but it is all business in the back. Narrow tail sinks in slower, softer, weaker waves. Unless you are advanced and you push hard on your tail constantly (and I mean constantly), the BQ is just a much easier board to ride.
Really interesting one. I voted for it on IG poll compared to G-Skate and although on paper the G-Skate should be a better board I'm still convinced the Bobby Quad "grovels" better, or at least you look better on it, if that makes sense.
Just out of curiosity, how does the Bobby Quad compares to the Firewire Sweet Potato? Spec wise they don't look that different so I think they're kinda in the same category. Also would be interesting to try the Endorfins on Bobby Quad for small/average days.
Kudos for the review, spot on as always,
Best!
Thanks. if I were to compare the BQ and SP at the same volume, say 31 Liters since that is the SP's smallest version. Here is what you get:
SP - 5'2 x 21 7/16" x 2 5/16" @ 31L
BQ - 5'7 x 20" x 2 9/16" @ 32.3L
You will see a 5" difference in height. I surfed the 5'4 BQ at 27.1L. At the smaller size and volume, the BQ for me had great performance available. When I surfed the 5'2 SP last year, although it caught waves with very little effort, much better than the BQ, I was only able to do certain types of maneuvers (at least in the 2 hrs that I had it for the demo. I'm certain I could have gotten better on it after some time). The board is thick and wide making it kind of clunky. Not in a bad way but just simple physics. At my weight, an SP at 29L would be perfect, maybe 5' tall vs 5'2.
If I surfed the two sizes above at the similar volume, I think the SP would end up being a better groveler and possibly a better performer. Better groveler because of the width and mroe of the volume being under my chest. Performer becasue, a 5'7 BQ is now too long. The nose and tail are full and wide so the extra 5" of swing weight would be a lot of weight. Cuz i'm 5'8, my stance isn't that wide and no matter the board, I pretty much stand in the same exact place of all boards, back 30". On the SP, I'll have roughly 32" of board in front of me, the BQ, i'll have 37" of board.
Anyways, I would not put these two boards in the same category. SP is a much better groveler for catching waves. The is more of a groveler similar to the Mashup and has a good deal of performance built in.
@@ThomyeSurfs Gotcha, makes totally sense. Thanks for the in-depth comparison,
Best!
Love your reviews! How does the BQ compare to the Mashup? I have the Dominator 2 and Seaside and looking for a board that will go well in San Diego waves as well as BSR Surf.
BQ awesome, board works fantastic and I would put it at about the same as the BQ. The BQ has a slightly wider tail so likely goes a bit better in softer waves bit only by an fraction. not even sure I'd be able to tell. Having said that, if you have the Seaside (helium) and the dom2 (helium), and you like those boards, the Mashup is literally the "mashup" of those two boards. It might be the holy trinity of boards. You would go from one to the other with little to no adjustment between the three.
Again, BQ is awesome but now you are dealing with a different construction. might be a slight bit more adjustment. You can't go wrong with either to be honest but looking at it as logically as possible, the Mashup seems like a better fit in the quiver. If you do go BQ, do the spinetek eps version. At least then, you will have a relatively similar buoyancy.
@@ThomyeSurfs thank you! Love the channel!
Hi mate, a great review again!
I'd like to get your thought about it. If you can only choose between Sequencer or Horseman quad fins for your groveller in a condition like 1-4ft beach break, which one would you go for?
For me, I like the sequencer.
Thanks @@ThomyeSurfs Now I know which one I should go for.
Would you do a video tutorial on how you pop up on a shortboard? Im trying to transition from longboard to short.
for sure. do me a favor and if you haven't already, vote. go to my community section and vote on the poll I put out a weeks ago. that is one of the options. www.youtube.com/@ThomyeSurfs/community
Looking to get one for groveling. Do you ride the similar volume as your daily shortboards? Or do you recommend adding 1-2 liters?
I don’t really feel right with Spine-tek so I will probably go for PU. Thanks for the great review.
I surfed the one I demoed at the same liters as my daily. Since it has the wider tail and nose, it helped it grovel better. You can go up but be careful, all my friends that don't like this board oversized it. Granted, they oversized it by 2 to 3 sizes vs just 1.
One thing to consider, volume is a great measurement as a starting point but you have to consider all the other attributes. For better groveling consider less entry rocker, wider tail, more overall width, swallow for more drive, etc.
@@ThomyeSurfs Thanks for the information and suggestion. That is helpful!
I don’t get chance to know much about a board when ordering it. Although there are some theoretical features for groveling, e.g., wider tail / lower rocker, it’s difficult to anticipate the actual combination magic. Feedbacks on volume from other people are straightforward and useful to me. Especially, my weight and height are similar to yours 😁
Nice! Have you tried the older CI High 5 model? Some similar features.
no, I have not. I was interested but at the time, didn't have much experience on CI nor any positive boards. Since then, I've tried teh NB2, NB3, Fishbeard. Just now typing this, I realized that I have only tried the beard line. haha
I know the Cymatic or Revo is in the cards but you've never done a true San Diego Fish designed twin fin ....... Let's go!
what's the recommendation? does the too fish count? or maybe an album?
@@ThomyeSurfs truly Album why not ....... I'm 150 I dialed in FOR ME a
5'5 x 20 1/4 x 2 7/16 is PERFECT (29.5cl). My typical high performance is 24.7 to 25.4 (epoxy factor add .5)
Jo zu da ne. Arigatou gozaimasu.
Great review! For knee - chest high what do you like best BQ, seaside or hydra?
to be honest, I can't remember what the other two feel like. it's been so long since I have surfed them. I will say this, the BQ didn't feel very big to me, while the seaside seems super wide. The hydra was PU so I don't think it is fair to judge that with the EPS BQ and Seaside.
At this very moment, I might actually pick the BQ in the spine-tech. but the seaside and BQ are like 1% apart. And my seaside is 28.2L which is 1 more than the BQ I tested. for that reason, I would likely pick the seaside for small gutless days and the BQ for small good days
Thanks! I had a seaside, sold it, and now I miss it. Was my go to here on east coast. Want to try a BQ but have to go up to 6’2 to get the same literage as I had in my seaside. Think the 6’0 BQ might be a tad to small for me. Thinking about doing a custom and going a little shorter and bumping out the width a little and going spine tek. Haven’t done a custom yet so a little worried about it maybe messing with the “integrity” and design intention of the board. Let me know if you have any thoughts on that! If not appreciate the review. Keep them comin!
@@louiepillari7796 I think custom should be fine depending on how much you shorten it. I wouldn't go too wide as it will change the outline in a shorter package but the thickness is where you will want to ad most of the volume. again, depends on how much.
Awesome. Thanks! Yeah I was going to kind of split the volume between thickness and width. I was probably going to go down about 3-4”. So aiming to get similar volume to a 6’2 stock in a 5’10 or 5’11. Appreciate the insight! 🤙🏼
Great review! What are your thoughts on sizing this board for shorter heavier surfers? Im 5’6, 170 and ride ~34 liters. My boards are often 5’8 to 5’10 to hit the liters in stock sizing. I’d like to order a custom, but always have trouble with this.
that is a tough one. after surfing this board and also talking to others, i've concluded that those that don't like it are those who like slightly larger performance boards. Basically someone who might like the Sharpeye Inferno 72 oversized. A board like that oversized even though bigger will be loose and more performance oriented. Jumping onto a bigger BQ makes the board seem very tight and stiff. the reason for this is, a longer BQ might make you want to surf forward so then your back foot are in front of the fins. this makes teh board feel tight.
From what I can tell, from those I've spoken with, this board works great when ridden shorter than your height. doing the math and trying to get the board to work as a custom might not work well for you. I think the rails might get to thick or the board might get too wide.
this may all be conjecture though. it's possible that a bigger one might work for you that is longer than your height since I'm not exactly sure of what feel you might be looking for. Can you demo it? Sorry but it is just really hard to make recommendations when there are so many variables that go into it.
@@ThomyeSurfs Thanks so much for the detailed reply! You are on-point in terms foot placement on these boards. I tend to need a slightly wider stance than desired due to their extra length, and I move my back foot a lot between trimming vs turning.
I never thought of trying an oversized shortboard, but the increased foam in the tail (vs the nose) at a higher volume might be what I need.
If going custom on the BQ, I would have to balance length vs volume...thinking 5'6 x 20 1/8 x 2 11/16 at ~33L with spine tek could work. But I'll take your advice and try to demo a 5'7 or 5'8. Thanks again!
@@khasenst one other thing to consider is that if your other boards are PU, then the spinetek actually will be more buoyant so you could get 1L less and still have as good a float, maybe even 1.5 to 2L actually. Just a thought.
the board looks really good would you do a review on Chris Borst board 🙏🤙
not familiar with these boards but I can definitely reach out. If he is local and willing, I'd be more than happy to try one. :)
@@ThomyeSurfs Taylor Knox rides them
Great review! With that wide tail, does it ride anything like the neckbeard2 ?
I knew that question was coming. It does have the same type of response. I would say a tad better because it has less rocker. With the NB2, it either needed a slightly punchier wave or size but the BQ, as you saw from the video, needed way less. Also, my NB2 was 5'7 (likely too tall for me) but the 5'7 and the BQ 5'4 were about the same volume. I think a tad more in the BQ which also helps as a grovel in two way. 1, more volume but 2, more concentrated volume under the chest.
Having said that, the slight angle of the tail plus the break swallow made a big difference is how much water it pushed. The BQ was just easier to do everything. But, I figure as the waves get bigger and punchier, the NB2 will perform much better, easier to control.
@@ThomyeSurfs interesting Thomye. Thanks for the reply. Having tried my NB2 as a quad def opens up the grovel potential. But your surfing on the BQ in small waves makes it look like one of the best grovellers I've seen. Looks so pumpy and fast and flowy!
@@Surf_Salt the one thing I really disliked about my NB2 was that it was only thruster. :( no quad option and the whole time, I kept thinking it would work so much better as a quad. Not sure why they did that.
@@ThomyeSurfs @ThomyeSurfs not sure, my NB2 is a futures 5 fin and is super sweet as a quad in small steep waves 1-4ft, a big quad set def gives it a 1st and 2nd gear. But once its 5ft+ it feels better as a thruster. Def considering the BQ as a groveller.after watching this, looks like its geared a little lower than the NB2.
How does the BQ compare to the mashup? Do you prefer one over the other as a groveller? They both seem so fast in small waves!
How would you compare this to a Seaside in smaller waves? I used to love my Seaside but after riding my Cymatic and SciFi2 in avg to large surf I am struggling with my Seaside
in what way are you struggling. Surfing, paddling, catching waves? I only ask cuz ultimately it depends on what you are looking to achieve. I love my seaside for 2 to 5 ft softer waves. Although my seasides work in smaller 1' waves, the issue is that the wide point is really forward so tick tacking around isn't as easy as it was with the BQ. The BQ is more similar to the Mashup to be honest. let me know what you are experiencing with the Seaside.
Paddling n getting into waves esp fatter n flatter waves as I feel it pushes too much water with wide point so fwd vs my Cymatic which pulls water under my chest. When my paddling n takeoff aren’t the issue the board has great squirt and I love how skatey it is and I love doing roundhouses on it vs Cymatic which I think the tail is a little wide. I don’t have consistently good sessions on Seaside vs Cymatic and SF2
Do you like the Bobby Quad or the Mashup better? I have the BQ and just ordered a Mashup. Probably gonna try these fins in both.
Honestly I don't know. I would love to try them both back to back. It's been a while since I surfed the mashup But my recollection is that it surfed down the line really fast while the BQ was better with turns and tighter pocket surfing. Funny thing The BQ felt smaller but I surfed both in 5'4 I think.
I thought the Mashup would have stayed in your quiver the way you spoke so highly of it… that would be a good video… out of all the boards you have reviewed what has stayed in your quiver…
@@tristanholsgrove7619 it's still in my quiver, in fact i own 2 of them LOL. The issue is, hardly anyone watches my video to watch me. They watch for the newer or different boards. So I find myself torn every time I go out. I have 2 brand new Mashups just teasing me. Currently, my soloshot is broke and my hard drive with all my videos isn't working. So, I may go back to my Mashup for a bit. I recently took a trip to Nicaragua but didn't take it because I was so afraid of damaging it in transit. The last time I took a trip, 2 of my boards ended up dinged and broken. :(
Anyway, the Mashup is king maybe queen in my quiver. The Sharpeye FT is the mate to the Mashup. :)
Stoked to hear, I got mine in volcanic. I did upsize, which you advised against… I’ll let you know how it goes. I got the Taylor Knox fins too, looking forward to that speed!
What size are the fins? Thanks
I don't know if there's a size for the AIPA fins. I'll double check and if there is a size I'll let you know otherwise I think they only come in one size.
Were all those other people also doing groveller reviews? I can't believes so many out in such tiny waves.
LOL. no, a few of them were my friends that also borrowed boards from the demo day. Others seem absolutely committed which is pretty impressive or crazy.
How would you rate this compared to the Seaside?
I would say they are similar but the BQ is more like the Mashup in terms of volume to height. The seaside is a tad shorter and wider relative to volume so it is meant to grovel a fraction better. Grovel aside, both the Mashup and BQ are then meant to perform better. Which is why I can tick tack it around easily and still get maneuvers.
I think as soon as I get done filming a few of the borrowed boards, I'll try comparing it to the Seaside and Mashup in similar conditions.
Here is a video of my 5'2 seaside in similar small conditions like the BQ. th-cam.com/video/YABTa0w_cz0/w-d-xo.html
This seaside is only 24.6L, it is the Machado dims. it is smaller than the normal stock 5'2". I remember struggling on this size so this day was the day that inspired me to get the 5'3 Seaside. Which comes in at 28.2L. If I compared the 5'3 SS to the 5'4 BQ, the SS is a fraction better at groveling, cuz it is wider, has a tad more volume but the volume is crammed into a smaller length.
But I did lose a fraction of responsiveness and performance when I went from teh 5'2 SS to the 5'3 SS. Basically the extra 4L make the board a tad clunky but my life got easier. My wave count went way up and it was worth the small loss in performance for the big gain in grovel.
Anyways, hope that made sense. The BQ is closer to the Mashup but leans slightly towards the Seaside. I'll have to do a chart or something in my next video where I can compare them. The hard part is, grovel better doesn't mean surf better so sometimes it gets confusing. Grovel better is objective while Surf better is subjective, making it even more confusing. :(
that bobby quad looks slow where bobby going right
can you review the rnf96??
if I can get hold of one, most definitely. it sort of looks like the Mashup to me.
Can you compare it to the seaside?
They are a little bit different. The Bobby quad is a little bit more performance oriented I would place it right in the middle of the seaside and the mashup closer to the mashup
@@ThomyeSurfs thanks for the reply brother 🙏 i think it’s incredible how you manage to squeeze those micro waves! I still don’t have the ability to do it with my seaside😓
Thomye do you still have a Sunday?
all three of them, 5'6, 6'0, and my brother 6'8
@@ThomyeSurfs try a set of S wing 520's (both FCS & Futures) or a set of mid keel 470's (only come in Futures) in them and be prepared to be amazed.
@@petewebb5149 those are crazy looking. I was just talking to someone about those. will have to give it a go soon.
@@ThomyeSurfs 5'6 sunday is magic. I'm running semi-keels and NVS's (new?) single-fin-box twin trailer "apex stabilizer" and it's loose but also precise.
Hey I’m looking for fins for my slater No Brainer and my twin Schroff. For the slater I’ve been riding it as a quad but I need a better set of fins im using the Super brand quads or thruster and for the Schroff im using the Rasta fins but they feel kinda stiff. Basically can you help me find the best 5 fin option for the No Brainer and the best twin option in mostly small NJ waves.
starting with the twin, the ones you are using look like the k2 almost. really raked and wide. I would try something like the modern keel. I am no longer too familiar with futures brand twins, I mostly use NVS since they are great construction and cost a tad less. They have one called the ono's.
What's the situation with the no brainer? is it too loose? too tight? how big is the board? I don't want to just recommend any set of fins I like since it has to fit your board and needs. I remember the no brainer being very flat. Also, have you tried the No Brainer as a 2+1 yet? that outline looks a lot like the Mashup.
@@ThomyeSurfs hey thanks for the info really appreciate it. I actually bought the Rastas for the No Brainer to try it as a 2+1 just haven’t tried it yet. It’s 5’4 it’s pretty flat I never really rode a quad but I rode it in head high + last year and loved the hold I have on take off really helped my confidence. It’s just a little stiff when turning in smaller waves. I’m not familiar with the fins you mentioned but I was thinking Kelly’s new fins or the fins Noel from the surf reviews fins. But I saw your surfing from this video and that’s what I’m looking to do more consistently.
When you say modern keel?
@@scottcuttre9705 NVS makes one called the Ono's, NVS also has one from album called teh blackbird, FCS makes one called the modern keel and futures doesn't seem to have one.
www.surfnvs.com/collections/apex-twins/products/apex-series-ono-twin
www.surfnvs.com/collections/apex-twins/products/blackbird-keel
www.surffcs.com/products/fcs-ii-modern-keel-twin-fins
They are just more upright and the keel isn't as deep. This makes the keels looser than traditional keels.
@@ThomyeSurfs thanks again so much. Super nice of you
have you got a mid 6 yet?
Sort of. A subscriber (now friend), insisted I borrow his Mid6. I didn't want to since I hardly new the guy and that is a very expensive board but he would not take no for an answer. He basically brought the board to the beach and put it next to my soloshot and left without it. LOL Really cool guy (shout out to E). Anyways, I got it out on one day that was decent and now looking to get it out on another so that I have a good sense of it. I will review it soon. :)
@@ThomyeSurfs you the man watching from nz
@@jump171 Love NZ, that place is amazing.
8:45 #sadpads
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