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I’m no expert but I believe the ones I fitted are referred to as coke bottle grips. I’m sure other n frame grips can be fitted with modifications.

@@Waxmax The grips you fitted on are not coke bottle grips, those are target grips, Cokes have a more oval profile and are actually smaller than the Target grips that replaced them. Another giveaway in telling the difference between N frame diamond targets and N frame diamond 'cokes' is the larger checkered area of the cokes. The overall size is essentially the same. The amount of extra palm swell varies.

I thanks for your message. I replaced the grips for wooden ones and then stained and used tru oil to finish.

Sorry I just realised the video you watched and commented on still had the original grips fitted, so I’m assuming you refering to the ones shown in this video. My fault sorry. Yes I actually painted them and blended different colours to try and give a grain effect. The paint was very thin though as I wanted to still see some of the original colour and texture. I then used the birchwood Casey tru oil on them. Don’t think it came out too bad and I preferred the look when compared to the original finish. Then I changed the grips to the wooden ones as shown in later videos. Apologies for confusion

@ Cheers,I thought they looked different,yeah,wood texturing is called scumbling,did a door once to look like walnut…tricky on a small piece though.Im thinking of lacquering mine with a gloss spray clearcoat of some description…I don’t like the dullness of the stock ones.

Thank you. I’ve swapped the sling point back and fourth both ways as I never seem happy lol. I do have a couple of videos planned for the mp40 so stay tuned!!

Interesting. Maybe there are different versions as it has made a difference on my one. I will do another video on it showing shooting through chrono so you can see

Interesting comment thank you. If that is the case, do you know why, with no ammunition inserted, the chrono does not register any readings when fired with just the co2?

Thanks for your message. It makes no difference in any way. All exactly the same.

Doesn’t surprise me tbh. Umarex customer care is terrible! Missing on the black one but at least the locating notch was there albeit wedged inside. The chrome one had nothing. It has the hole for the spring and notch but no hole in the side where the locking pin needs to go.

Hi, many thanks for your nice comments. Very much appreciated. I have done a few other valve assembly mods which increased the power. There are videos on my channel about this including one where I drill out the valve itself. I’m still searching for a suitable 177 full length rifled barrel that I can put in the m29. In the uk, shops won’t sell you just a barrel!. So I’m hoping to find a suitable donor airgun that I can use the barrel from. Your mods sound fantastic. Have you or are you going to upload any videos on them and what you have done? Thanks 👍

Hi, you can buy barrels but they are subject to needing to send to your local RFD with all the charges that entails but if you know somebody who can turn it down for you it's pretty easy. I've recently bought a 177 HW45 barrel and a 177 bsa rifle barrel from local RFDs. Posting on YT is way beyond my skills level lol. Working on making an oversize valve to fit in the M29 valve housing . Watched all your vids on the valve mods, excellent work I've got to say! given me a few ideas. I prefer the Nagant over the 629/M29 ( half the weight/Size , 7 shots and slightly more powerful but a lot louder...has 3 ports in a bigger valve) but there are zero spares avaliable for that pistol, mess up and it could be a write off so I'll stick with working on a spare M29 valve I bought

@@Waxmax If you find what you search in CANADA i can ship to you. Quick question Did you have ever been able to raise the FPS on a KWC 1911 style gun ? (KWC/GLETCHER/CYBERGUN'ELITE FORCE they are the same model)

Thank you 👍

Hi, thank you for your comment. Really pleased to hear that you tried and succeeded in doing the same thing. Would be great to see some photos if you’re able to upload them to TH-cam.

Hi thanks for your question. I’m guessing you didn’t watch the whole video? The fixed side is secured with x4 screws the the original Umarex one. The removable grip secured with x2 magnets in the grips which meet with x2 magnets on the gun and frame. There are also x2 locating pins which keep the grips solids and secure. Thanks again 👍

@@Waxmax oh yeh i was checkin out in mute in company office , haha wow it seem like more procedure than i've expected. magnets look like main tough part to follow.

Hi, thanks for your message. It’s nice to know someone else has also tried this. I didn’t have the issue with the grips being very thin fortunately. After my first attempt I was cautious not to remove more material than needed. I know what you mean about the black widow but it’s just too much of a black look for me. I like the wood. Would be great to see what your grips look like on the Luger

Hi, I look forward to seeing your grips. I have the chrome one and black one. It’s probably the camera lighting. I’m half way through doing the grips one my black one. Just very busy with work hence no videos recently

@@Waxmax , thanks, I’d forgotten that your chrome M29 is of course the “Trust Me” gun.

@@greatunwashed1856 it was yes. So glad to have got rid of those horrific white plastic grips! I know I’ve said it before but Umarex are really missing a market place by not selling with proper wood grips. Totally transforms the gun. They could just sell them as optional extras and people would buy them. I’m so pleased with how my grips turned out. Just a pain in the backside making them fit!

@@Waxmax , Totally agree about Umarex missing a trick with the grips, and if this chap in Devon does a good job I suspect he could be busy.

Correct. I’ve done a few videos on them. Also did the Umarex Luger grips. Got another set I’m in process of doing for another m29 model 😀

Wow! Very kind thank you 👍

Thanks for your message and suggestion. Such I simple and obvious solution! I love it!! I’m still in process of trying to fill in the holes and cover them but if I don’t succeed, I will certainly look to try your idea. Really great comment. Thank you 👍👍👍

They are the same as the uk. Thanks for confirming what the USA power is. I did wonder

Thank you. I have indeed and I will be doing a video on it soon 😀

Thanks for your question. That is exactly what I did. Check out my channel and other videos and you will see 👍

Thank you my friend. I got my one from a place called d&b militaria based in lingfield. Usually got loads of bits and pieces listed in their website.

Yes it can 👍

Hi there, I’m well thanks. Hope you are too. Just upload your photos to your TH-cam account under where it says community

@@Waxmax Hi! Many thanks!! I did not know that! It will take time, but I will do it!! Thanks for all the help you have been giving!!

That they could

@@ShaunShearman hi, really appreciate your message and advice/input. Would love to see more videos you have done in relation to this. I’ve checked out your others and they are great. Need more please 😀. I’ve not had any issue yet with the valve and I did the original one after it came out (before I did TH-cam) thankfully it’s still ok and not cracked. I have a spare valve so might try your method out. Unfortunately in the UK there are laws relating to buying rifled barrels in their own. You need a license or need to send back original like for like barrel I order to buy a new one! Crazy! I will most likely buy the new cheap Umarex break barrel pistol with rifled barrel and use that part. The gun is about £45 uk price which is cheaper than just buying a barrel on its own. I would love to have a lathe and make own barrels but over here I would imagine that would result in a life sentence at his majesty’s pleasure! With the way the government is now I can imagine it’s only a matter of time until airguns are outlawed and probably sneezing in public! 🤣

Thank you my friend. A bit long and boring and not very close up video but I thought why not. I did yes, and thanks again as always. I’m guessing the airsoft valve assembly was the same as the bb one? The mods can be a bit tricky but you nailed it and also got great results. Although the shot count per co2 goes down as expected, it’s still more than you get with a blowback model with lower power and because of having to reload after six shots, makes it feel even higher. I heard back from handicraft grips and they have finished making my order and will be shipping them tomorrow for me. Then I can make them fit on the 8 inch version. Looking forward to seeing that one finished as well. I have a couple of other ideas planned with the m29 which I will be doing videos on. Later this week I am hoping to do a video on testing some new pellets. I had a quick test yesterday with very impressive results!! I look forward to more of your videos as always 😀

@@Waxmax Thanks my friend. Yes the valves are the same. No difference at all. I dont mind fewer shots since I get good power from it now. I have been thinking about drilling the valves and valvestems for many years but didnt think it was possible, until I watched your videos. When I could see you did it then I thought I must have a go. Very glad I did😃. so thanks for showing us. Iam looking forward to your videos. Wood grips on the 8 inch version sounds supper cool. Keep up the good work my friend😃

Good evening Rune. Reading your message really made me happy knowing that you gained the confidence to do the valve mod by watching one of my videos. Massive thanks!!! The irony is that without me watching you and other videos, I wouldn’t have started doing my videos. What a strange paradox 😂. Like with all these things, there are risks involved as you know. It comes down to money at the end of the day. I’ve made mistakes like drilling through that m29 valve body. But without making these mistakes, I would not learn how to push the boundaries of what is possible. Onwards and upwards. I look forward to seeing more of your videos on replicas and mods. Perhaps a similar mod on that Dan Wesson??

@@Waxmax Good evening my friend. We like to tinker😃. Before I watched your drilling videos all I did was to change the valvespring or shim the hammer spring. Now I feel its possible to tune most of these CO2 guns. Guess a similar mod can be made on the Dan Wesson 😃👍

Thank you, my video was a bit crap but iPad just got in the way when it was closer. Was keen to show the full video of the hole drilling though. Yes, if you can do that I imagine it would be the same. I did actually try this once on a different model. It just took so long to do hence the extra holes which I found to be quicker and less painful.

🤣 it’s not easy. I’ve just done it a few times already on the m29 and others I’m yet to do videos on. My video was not as clear as I wanted it to be. I couldn’t get the iPad close enough without getting in the way. Interestingly, the power difference is greater on the 6inch version. But that has a full length 4.5mm barrel. The 8 inch only has about half that in 4.5mm. The rest is 6mm! Wtf??!! I will be working on that! Now, here is the interesting part. You can’t buy an actual rifled barrel in the uk without a licence or you have to return the original like for like barrel in order to be sent a new one. However, you can buy a gun which obviously has a rifled barrel! Go and figure that one out!! So, I will be buying the cheap Umarex pistol, forget its name, but it’s a new model. It’s a break barrel with a non shrouded barrel in 177. They do it as a 6 inch and a longer version. Only £45 for the whole thing. That less than just a barrel!! I tell you, the uk has such “unique” laws! It’s utter madness. I look forward to seeing your attempts. It seems that you and rune are in competition as to who will be first to get those figures up. I wonder if a small spray of ptfe silicone inside the barrel would reduce friction and increase the fps??

@@Waxmaxthere is always some friendly competition of course or it wouldn’t be fun 😁

@@lesslethalfordummies true that!! 😀

Hi there, hope you are well. I’m guessing your model is made by Umarex? If so I believe the co2 seal is the same green one. You can buy these online like eBay. If you do replace the seal, remove the valve assembly from the gun first though. Otherwise, get a used co2. Heat it up with hairdryer. Get it very hot. Also heat the green seal the same way with it still in the gun. Then put a thin layer of silicone grease on top of the co2 and put in the gun and tighten up. The heating of co2 and seal softens them. So when you tighten up it helps create a better seal. Leave until it’s cooled down and remove the empty co2 and try a new one. Hopefully that works. Otherwise try a small piece of ptfe tape over the co2. Then put in gun. This will only be temporary for that one co2 and you would need to do it again with further co2 replacements. I would do the heat trick first. It has worked countless times for me in the past. Just gut the co2 and seal hot!! Then tighten. Let me know how you get on

@@Waxmax Hello again! Sorry to bother you,again too. I found a video here on TH-cam, and the author shows to take apart the Wingun Webley ( mine is the Well one as I've said before ) ''Vintage Airsoft'' is the fellow and the video is: Webley Mark VI disassembly video. The painting was going away before this new mater, just by passing my finger finger nail, but that is another battle!!

Out of 48 shots it maxed at 568fps and lowest was 328fps. After adding up all 48 shots fps figures it gave average of 480fps. It’s very accurate as it is but I will be putting a riffled barrel in and using it for more accurate target fun. Are there higher power air pistols, yes. Are they replicas of real steel models, no. That’s why I like it so much. Thanks for your questions 👍

@@Waxmax 😊 I just bought one myself, pellpax were selling them for half price.

@@JohnMcintosh-dm1gn yeh they have good sales on at Pellpax. It’s where I got the 8 inch one from recently in same sale as you. I’ve already done the valve mod to that one too. Just waiting for the wood grips to arrive 😀

@@Waxmax I tried to find some wood grips online but with no success, is there a specific site?

I can’t remember the website but there is a place in Germany that makes direct replacements. Someone left a comment on one of my m29 videos saying the name of site. They look ok but are only smooth finish. They would be oversized like the Umarex ones. I bought mine from handicraft grips in Thailand. They need a lot of remodelling to make them fit and you need to cut gun game down. I’ve uploaded a load of videos on here showing the process

Great tips thank you. Where did you get your rifled barrels from or what gun are they off? I’m struggling to find one

Amazing!! Would love to see photos. Are you able to upload any?

@@Waxmax , I know it sounds pathetic but don’t know how, neither of us would want our emails out there but I had the thought that you probably use the same gun shop if you cleared it with them I could send pics to them and obviously they would pass them on,what do you think ?

@@greatunwashed1856 you can upload pics in the community section on your TH-cam profile. Or just do a short video and post on here?

@@Waxmax I certainly have a go at that, and if I run into problems I’ll get my son to do it,

🤣 that’s what you do when you know your getting old. I know the feeling all too well!!! Yet when it comes to anything practical most kids don’t have a clue. That makes me feel better 😆

But what a waste it would be 🤣

Thanks Rune. It was an impromptu video I did when home from work. I will be doing all the same mods to the 8 inch one for sure. Also plan some testing with lead pellets and accuracy. I’ve also done some similar mods to the mp40 and Lee Enfield smle. All increased in power. The smle I loaded with a single promethios pullet and it put a hole through an old car door! I have realised that I have to go to the limits to see a difference. Not sure how Umarex can say the 8 inch model gives up to 10fps more than the 6 inch one seeing as the 6 inch bb model has a full length 4.5mm barrel and the 8 inch, like yours, only has about half the barrel as 4.5mm and the rest is 6mm! So the reality is that the 6 inch actually has a longer barrel than the 8! My god this stuff is doing my head in 😂

@@Waxmax Yes its very strange that Umarex didnt put in a full length barrel in the 8 inch version. It only has a 5 inch barrel.... Looking forward to your videos 😃

Hi Rune, hope you are well. I’ve just been doing some more playing with the valve. I borrowed a tap from neighbour and fixed the original valve which is the one I experimented on drilling before doing new valve. If you recall, it was the only valve where I drilled to 4.5mm down the shaft. The other one I did to 4mm as I went drilled through the edge ruining when I tried 4.5mm again. Anyway. I also hollowed out under where the co2 punctures. Not the piercing part itself but the aluminium part allowing a larger gap between the bottom of the valve puncture pin and valve body. I’ve just chronoed a total of 48 shots with new co2. Here are all the numbers in order from first to last; 514, 410, 484, 365, 364, 474, 378, 523, 489, 534, 515, 540, 533, 514, 515, 568, 516, 526, 543, 504, 517, 521, 497, 514, 506, 532, 534, 529, 536, 529, 505, 516, 516, 507, 487, 501, 495, 494, 453, 457, 441, 440, 438, 374, 387, 368, 356, 328. Worked out average of 480fps. Before, on the last valve body, it maxed at 509fps. Thought I would share this with you being a numbers man yourself.

@@Waxmax Hi my friend. Thanks for the info. Very good power. The highest was 568 fps wich is 3,87 fpe or 5,3 joule and that is impressive. Some fluxing in velocity but after the first cylinder it settels down nicely. Great job my friend. Keep up the good work. Take care and have a nice weekend 😃

Yes I’ve had runnings with Umarex customer care before and they are not helpful. Such a shame. But they do have some good replicas and until another company comes along and does better I don’t have much choice. Northeast do some amazing replicas in airsoft and I have a couple. Shame they don’t do airguns too

Ahh the white line around rear sight! Yes I’ve seen that and thanks for reminding me. I will get that done. What hex screws? I want to replace the x head screws with flat ones but not sure on the thread size. Do you know? It’s the two large ones and three smaller ones that hold on the plate. Do you have pics of yours to share? Would love to see

Thank you my friend I try. I won’t be swopping the valves over but I will be copying what I did on to the 8 inch valve so stay tuned for that and also the wood grips on same 8 inch model. I need more hours in the day!! 🤣

Thanks Shaun, it’s great to see new undiscovered channels pop up from time to time. I look forward to your next glock video

I have thought about that too lol. I might try as there is no harm in it. It’s just annoying really. Think it will be easier to do on the black one

@@Waxmaxmy wife just bought some acrylic paint pens for her craft project. They are very reflective and could also resemble chrome.

Ooh really? Do you have any more details on them like brand etc?