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sam washburn
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2006
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Sam… would BRAKE CLEANER be ok? Didn’t know if that’d be TOO STRONG or not!
@@DavidsVoices1970 probably. But I never tried that.
Great video !!
anyone know if you can do this to a 2018 chevy 2500?
Nothing increases mpg by 20%, accept your foot.
Floor mats are not making a gas difference.
I would think any water would evaporate from how hot the engine runs.
My truck is a 99 chevy tahoe. I should be able to do the same to mine. Code reads P0327. Bank 1 knock sensor
Yes
This absolutely works, but be sure and use a genuine AC Delco Knock sensor! I literally had two bad Dorman and two bad Delphi knock sensors new out of the box, before I fixed this with the AC Delco sensor. On another note, the risk of damage is low if at all. If you hook up a multimeter to the sensor and tap on the engine with a screwdriver, you'll see the voltage jump with each tap. Just one sensor bridged across both wires will sense knock and pinging if it shows up. No way I'm paying the dealer $1600 to replace these things!
Thanks Sam
Would doing this treatment two times increase the mileage even more Sam ???Thanks
@@victoryfirst2878 probably not. Unless your intake manifold was extremely dirty. But doing it twice would not hurt
@@SoaringMech Thank you for your response and help fella.
The old Celts would be so jealous 😂
Great video. Thank you sir!
Ignore the "low oil pressure" and only be concerned with the "oil level low."
It takes about 1.5 to 3 hours to change both knock sensors. They produce a constant value of A/C voltage a the PCM watches for abnormal inputs. Timing is retarded when starting, but V8 engine run 34 to 36 degrees BTDC to fire ignition. Now the octane is 87 the fuel burns fast. This is the anti-knock value. High octane burns slower and rated higher. To get the most torque and HP, they have to ignite way before TDC. Your information is wrong. Pre-detonation breaks piston ring lands, rings and at worst can bent connecting rods. Why would anyone chance this. Yes, it’s harder that an oil & filter change, but if your engine goes, cylinders get deep scratches, metal parts can bend valves, destroy the block and cylinders head. Don’t risk it! Replacement is easy; With Injectors still connected are placed to side, remove intake (Gaskets $15) wipe clean. Use a vacuum and screwdriver to clean around knock sensors, replace both ($32). Use dielectric grease on threads, torque in place, install valley pan, use high temp RED RTV to seal completely. Make connections at cam & oil pressure sensor, install new gaskets on intake, swing fuel rail, lube with silicone grease, install. Done. The time you spent looking on the internet you could have done this twice. 3 times if including effort for a video. ASE Master Tech since 78, retired (7yrs with GM as ACDelco market area service manger. L-1, P-2 certified as well.
@@deankay4434 thanks for the thoughtful reply. But most people watching this video have old trucks and not much money. Many are poor recent immigrants and cannot get an inspection stickers because of a bad knock sensor. On a 15 year old truck, a lot can go wrong or break when u remove the manifold and all the connections in order to get at the knock sensors, adding more cost and effort to the replacement job. Dealers charge over $1000 to do it assuming nothing goes wrong. my sons and I have driven this truck for 30k miles since I did this hack in all conditions under varying loads including towing a two ton boat 800 miles on the one good knock sensor. The engine has been flawless. Had to replace one bad injector after 28k miles. A factory trained Mercedes mechanic told me that the second knock sensor is probably redundant. IE. A single sensor will hear all knocks. After my experiment I believe him. Read some of the other comments and you will see how successful this hack has been for hundreds of people. No one has ever done it and come back with a comment saying that it damaged their engine.
@ I know this, it is getting worse and not better. As an ASE Master at a dealer since 1978, I have seen a lot. Exhaust bolts break, they have to elongate the holes, install a flat washer and expect other problems not related to the repair, but require removal to gain access. I spent 7 years with ACDelco, holding 4hr long tech seminars for 100+ folks on 28 different subjects. Everyone did A/C systems, I did 4hrs on sensors & controls found on GM’s. Grand Blanc did not send me that book to hand out, because I created it. Best of luck to all. See ACDelco ‘tis 2 web to buy access to info and schematics plus code to program a module that belongs on a single family engine! They spend 3 months or more with every new engine that comes out in a shop writing new code if needed, but testing, inducing failures then checking for changes in the diagnostic flow charts. Been there, seen that. Have a lucky one.
Sam, you articulated the instructions clearly and concisely, and even I could understand them. Thank you for your guidance.
Great idea, but what happens when the other sensor goes bad? You'll have to remove the intake manifold at that point anyway. I know its a bitch, but why not just replace both sensors and the harness once and be done with it?
Brilliant. Thanks.
I was thinking that could be done... thanks for the confirmation!
Working just as you said. I checked bank two for resistance,it was 300 ohms. Bank one was 100,000 ohms👍💯 wired them as you instructed. No more PO332 knock sensor code! Thanks a million! This is on my 2005 2500 HD 6.0 ltr. Chevy LS.
@@socalives glad to hear it worked. Good luck
My nox sensors are on the outside of the block under the xaust manifolds ..they are very easy to get to and its takes abt 30 min to change them both ..A Word of caution dont over torque them ,,15inch lbs is very sufficient ,if you over torque them they=y will strip out and come apart.. look at how they are made and you will understand. To do what he is suggesting is very sketchy ,,if the engine cant read the faintest sound of spark knock it can very easily burn a hole in the top of your piston . this is to iffy for me to do it. be assured your engine can be damaged doing this.
Sam nice work. I have already changed mine twice and still get code returning. I understand the jumper between the 2 wires coming from the knock sensors...but what do you do with the long end of the wire severed to make the short jumper? A cut wire creates 2 separate ends, right? Unclear to me, thanks.
@@ole5539 the cut wire that goes to the dead knock sensor doesn’t matter. Just secure to something out of the way so it doesn’t interfere with anything. Good luck
@@SoaringMech Thanks you sir.
Thanks man this really helped my car was smoking and was leaking from the bottom I had my neighborhood machanic look at it he cleaned it up and now it’s not leaking any oil
I generally like this workaround. just have one issue which may or may not matter for a lot of people: contrary to popular belief, these things are on the engine to actually do real tasks to help the ECM make the correct decisions. by taking one knock sensor off-line, some knockingwill not be detected. as we all know knocking has implications. however since most of these vehicles are probably 200k or more miles,saving money on the cost of this repair seems Justified, especially when not passing a smog test renders your vehicle not "registration able."
@@MelaniaSideWigga I did a lot of research some with a factory trained Mercedes mechanic. The consensus is that the second knock sensor is redundant. There for backup. So bypassing the dead one should not compromise anything.
@@SoaringMech I guess if NASA can keep Voyager going for 47 years with progressively failing systems and lower communication, we can use the "system backup " for my 22-year-old Suburban.
Did you need to clear the code first do tu the bypass ??
No. Clear them after.
My car motor knocks if y put cheap gas but I put good stuff not hear the knocking y don't know if the stupid knock censor or the motor or the gas they put too much shiet in the carso they sell parts
@@Amador-u2p always use the correct octane gas. If you’re pulling a heavy load on a hot day use a higher octane for that.
@@SoaringMech thanks you you ok man
I'm watching and listening to every one's posts and the man's video, and I'm sitting here thinking about it all. If an engine is really not knocking, and it's just the ECM that's not happy with the sensor, because it's a bad sensor, why couldn't one just buy a new sensor , fabricate some kind of a bracket to bolt onto the head or block, or even any where just to pick up a ground somewhere, just to satisfy the ECM and rid the code. And again, if you know your engine , and it is well maintained. And everybody can here an engine pinking/ knocking with your own ears. Since it' only a single wire lead, and just looking for a ground for the base of the sensor to ground , it should work just as well. Someone tell me why this wouldn't work also. Beats tearing the whole engine apart just to satisfy the ECM on an engine that's really not knocking. Thanks Dave It's just mounting them externally instead of internally, should receive the same results, and just leave the two bad ones inside the engine alone.
@@davidkeddy7717 you are correct. Some people do that.
@@SoaringMech Hey! Thanks for your comment, And thanks for agreeing.
Problem with mine is after testing bank 2 sensor it read 99k ohms so it's not bad or getting grounded. Smh I don't know wtf is going on
I'm just gonna mount a new knock sensor to side of motor and solder into the existing bank 2 wire which is the green wire
@@dynamite6507 that will work. Good luck.
What if both sensors are bad?
Then u have to replace at least one of them. Some people mount a new on on the exterior of the motor (front right side has a threaded hole I think). Good luck.
I wonder if putting new sensors on side of block or head and running a new wire harness ( which they recommend anyway)from the sensor back to the ecm connector
@@jeffharvey9811 people have done that. It satisfies the ecm and turns off the check engine light. But I don’t think they detect all the knocks.
What is the name of the product?
Sea foam
Will itbpass inspection on the computer?
@@amadorgonzalez2110 yes, you will pass inspection if you do this and there are no other problems with the truck.
Mine threw abs code. Easy find then 3 hours of slamming it with the sledge.
Thx 4 info
LS intakes are easy to pull off and use rubber/plastic clip on intake gaskets...knock sensors retard the timing when detonation occurs-not wise to bypass them...🐒
Phenomenal video. As a fellow H2 aspiring H3, your comments were ALL on point, well communicated and well received. Not a stretch to think your investment will help improve the HG experience at a minimum, and even save some injuries as well. Great job, much respect.
I agree. Intermediate syndrome is real. I was fortunate to be with a great group that would watch out for each other. With the more experienced pilots recommending of conditions that would be acceptable for my experience. I advanced fairly quickly and was advised to be careful about Intermediate syndrome. I appreciated his concern and have seen accidents resulting from it. I was lucky enough to have escaped unharmed. But now as a wiser ?H4 I'm not as bold as i was. If it doesn't feel right I can just pass for the day. Maybe the free flight addiction is less than it used to be, or I have matured in my flying. PIO is real when stepping up to a dual surface glider. I only experienced it once but it got my attention for 10 seconds that seemed longer. As Page used to say Stay safe, get high and fly far!
Mine still going strong several years later ....
well you have one option or 2 shouldn't really matter it's in the engine valley. Older GM engines the original style small block 5.7 and tbi 5.7 have the Knock sensor are on the side of the block Is passenger side i believe it's been a while. Even before obd2 it's just code 52 I think i can't remember that far back. Most of the time that code was for a wiring problem l the sensor I believe that you are correct sir that 1 in the engine Valley should be able to hear Knox and paings. Then adjust the timing appropriate. Remember there are 8 cylinders so if you have a reduced octane fuel under a high engine load that 1 sensor is going to pick it up for the 4 cylinders it is supposed to sense it for. LS is kind of a oddball design because those sensors are in line front and rear they call them bank 1 bank 2 but they Don't sit on each side of the engine as is bank 1 bank 2. Is so theory as to reason. I've been doing this for a long time that if you have one function you're nonsense or it can hear the knock from the back half or the front half of the block that is designed to hear the rest of the cylinders will be under the same Conditions and load. My highly educated 26 years as a professional technician owning my own shop and used to have a California smart license but lead me to believe that this Is work around for work just fine. I have had issues on trucks where I had the intake manifold off to fix the lower Is valley seal that was leaking. Replace the nonsense just to do do diligent. As I know these are an issue the front one was full of water surprise. So I cleaned it up replaced it and now I have A Knock center code from the front Sensor that comes and goes. Is that Whole whether nonsense or recesses into the block was extremely rusty when I did the original repair now I'm having issues this is the perfect fix for these issues.
12:19 I’m at my wit’s end!!! I’ve replaced both knock sensors, had code for sensor 1, but since I had intake off, I figured might as well do both. Bought set of both sensors and harness, replaced intake gasket only to have problem remain!! Figured a had defective parts so exchanged set of sensors and harness, so I’ve done it twice now. Problem remained!! Figured it must be wiring problem so did continuity tests from ECM plug to connecting plug for each knock sensor and checked out ok. Did resistance check from ECM plug to crank case and I’m getting approx 100K ohms for each knock sensor. Why am I still getting P0327??? Is my ECM bad? I’m contemplating doing this solution but I would prefer to fix it the right way…….
I feel your pain Fernando. Your 327 code means that the bank 1 sensor (or sensor circuit) is no good. You’ve done all the right things. But it’s possible that the well that the sensor screws into is so rusted that it just isn’t getting a good ground. That is the sensor towards the back of the engine where water can easily collect. I would recommend doing the fix shown in my video. Splice the blue wire from the ECM into the Green wire going to the good sensor. I”ve driven my truck 20k miles all over the country since doing this and it runs great. A single knock sensor is all the engine needs. It can hear all the knocks. They put two for redundancy. Let me know how it goes.
I feel your pain too. I have a 2005 LS 5.3 @ 171,000 miles, well maintained. CEL came on, test showed bank 2 low signal. I went to O'Reilly's bought a new Dorman set and harness; within 100 miles CEL relit after replacement. Bought an AC Delco set and harness, everybody says this is the way to go, installed them and within 50 miles CEL returns. I am vacillating between doing it for the 3rd time or taking this gentlemen's advice...at the moment he is winning. I really don't want to do the job again. Oh, by the way, the Dormans I pulled tested 101 OHMs plus at the bench, removed and at the bench. If I do this again and I find an answer, I'll share it.
Both of my wires are blue. One dark
Assume the light one is green and follow the video
Learn how to film in wide screen. Narrow screen is for really dumb posters.
Did this and the code came right back. Total failure.
Recheck the circuits and make sure you route the blue and green wires exactly as in the diagram in the video
This fix has worked for hundreds of people
Bro thanks that actually pretty smart thanks we need more people like you
I did this and the crud that came out the tale pipe 😂 it looked like a old school diesel. It started running much better and more mileage.
The only bad part about this is when the other knock sensor fails and I am sure it will eventually, then you are screwed. This is just a temporary fix.
You’d be surprised. This fixes lasted three years for me, and the other knock sensor is doing fine.
@@SoaringMech That's good considering what a bitch they are to change on that engine.
Inside that sensor electrical connector you can place a small jumper inside snap it back together and reset codes. I did this 2 years ago took 10 min and no more check engine light.
4\16\24 about to try it and I'll report back! Looking at the comments I'll say thank you ahead
And if your towing or pushing hard and get bad fuel expect detonation and probably piston damage. Its actually a 2 hr repair siting on the radiator support straddling the engine.
Thank you for you help I was locking for a wonderful video and I find you ❤
Youre welcome. Good luck