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Did you just get it? If it's new it's defective. If it started doing it after you've used it a while then there might be something stuck in the impeller/basket/etc.

Brand new and it does that? That's a defective unit for sure. Obviously I'm assuming it's placed into the pool right? You don't turn it on outside of the pool with this happening do you?

This is designed specifically for small pools so yes! The only issue I have is the filter bag, I wish it was a basket. Much easier to clean. This cleaner shines in how lightweight it is. But if that isn't your main focus, you can spend maybe another 50 dollars or so and get something with a basket and advance navigation system. Take a look at the Seauto Crab or the Coasteering Nebula. They're always on sale somewhere.

I have a habit of running a cleaner every day if possible since I have so many. I do this to kind of rotate all the cleaners I have to see how they continue to hold up over time. But you're right. From now on, whenever I make a new cleaner video I'll hold off cleaning for a week or so and let the debris build up.

You probably already have done it but, check the cleaner for any objects stuck inside of it. The basket and the cleaner itself?

I try to run every cleaner I have at least once every 2 weeks. I'm sort of an exception because I have so many cleaners. So unfortunately I'm not the normal average homeowner in this example. But so far, the Pivot is working the same as day one.

The S1 Pro would be able to handle leaves and acorns well. But one thing about it you really have to get over is the weight of the cleaner. Especially if it's full of debris pulling out of the pool. Being at 26+ lbs might be tough for certain people to take in and out of the pool. But if you're good with that it'll work well. I would compare the S1 Pro to the Wybot S2(both brands owned by the same company). S1 Pro bigger and bulkier but bigger debris basket and better ultra-fine filters. Wybot S2 is smaller and lighter so it's easier to handle but you'll empty it out more than the S1 Pro. To be honest, I have both the S1 Pro and Wybot S2 in front of me and 90% of the time I will choose the Wybot. It's lighter and does the job well. I will only use the S1 Pro if I have a lot more debris in the pool and need it cleaned in one go. But if you run the cleaner two or three times a week it never really gets to that point and the S2 maintains it just fine. Hope that makes sense!

@imdefinitelydavid thanks so much for the insight, definitely makes sense. Just want to make sure the cleaner is choose has a big enough opening for the acorns, my old dolphin that died on me had a smaller opening and they would always get stuck. Seemed like the S1 pro had a huge suction opening, but if wybot is comparable that would work too. I run my robot every day and sometimes multiple times during the fall. For some weeks I even pay a pool guy to come vacuum it out it gets so many leaves in it no robot can keep up. Thanks again for the reply, love your reviews! If you have any opinions on the suction opening I'm all ears!

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Turn it on and press and hold for 2 seconds didn't work? No light changes?

I've tested it in 10 feet of water and it runs but according to the manual, it says max depth of 16 feet. Haven't been able to test that though

Thank you! On the head unit/control panel that is plugged into the outlet there is a physical timer control on it. Press it twice to run it Every Other Day. If you want it to run between 3pm-7pm the only way to set that up is Press the timer function during that time frame. Because it goes by an exact 24/48/60 hour timer depending on which run schedule you choose. So if you went outside at 4pm and pressed the timer function button twice. It will turn on at that moment once, then 48 hours later at 4pm, it turns on again and runs, and then 48 hours again at 4pm it repeats for a week. Hope that helps.

@@imdefinitelydavid Absolutely, that is helpful, thank you! What do you do if you are going on vacation for 2 weeks? The unit stops running the schedule after one week?

Yeah unfortunately it's only a weekly timer. You physically have to set it every week. They do this because technically they don't want you to leave the cleaner in the pool 24/7 and also they want you to physically take it out and empty the debris basket.

The thing about Wybot is that they add Pro versions to the normal versions that don't add much at all and yet they bump up the price. If you're looking for the next step up it'd be better to look at the step up model(s2)

The N1 and S1 from my understanding are the same inside, only physically/visually different outside. They did this to market and sell through different sources. For instance, in-person pool stores sell the N1 and not the S1. But if you went online to buy it, Amz only sells the S1 version. But then you have some online retailers like Wmt that sell the N1 and not the S1 too so it's not just online sellers. It's based off the retailer.

The Wybot S2 is probably the least expensive option with an ultra-fine filter. It's also still my current favorite cordless cleaner to use. These models here in this video unfortunately don't come with them.

It does, but that's all pools(chlorine or salt) and all cleaners the longer you leave it in the pool. Most modern day cleaners like the Liberty are built to handle it better than in the past. But regardless, yes, they do break down over time. Just not nearly as fast. I'm going on year 2 with the Liberty and there is some noticeable physical wear on the Liberty. Function wise though, still works great and does the job.

@imdefinitelydavid that's good to know and I appreciate your videos. I plan to get a liberty at the start of the next season. I want to try a cordless one since I have a small pool but I also want one made by a company that stands behind their products. That's why I'm leaning towards the Liberty instead of something like an aiper that has a lot of mixed reviews out there.

I totally understand that. To this day, my favorite cleaner to run during the fall/winter season(surrounded by trees) is the Dolphin Premier. It's corded, but I've had that since 2015 and only had to replace the tracks and rings a few times. Maytronics/Dolphin may be more expensive but they have thr best reputation and totally worth the price.

It picks up some, not all. Finer dust would need an ultra-fine filter and unfortunately this model doesn't have one. I heard rumors of them adding one but haven't seen it to date.

@imdefinitelydavid thanks!

Physically I would say Dolphins are built more solid/harder plastic components. The Poolmate feels thinner I would say. It's hard to tell how long these will last because they're still considered new in the pool industry

Debris wise, they all pick up the same debris, large and small. My grass flies into the pool each time I mow and they all do well. It's just those extra features like edge cleaning that make one skimmer look like it performs better than the other without edge cleaning.

Believe it or not, the Premier is still my go to for the off season! It's been years now and the Premier is still going strong. There are other units like the Polaris VRXiq+ or the Lydsto P1 that are newer with wifi and smart features but in all reality, I rarely use those features. They also don't come with as many filter options like the Premier. I think the Premier and CC Plus from Dolphin are some of the best corded cleaners on the market yes, even with their older models. Still works better than newer corded cleaners

So you have a set of steps that lead directly to your baja shelf correct? You don't have like a side wall away from the steps the cleaner can also climb onto the ledge. If that's the case, out of the 3 cleaners you mentioned I'd go with the Wybot. The Quantum is good but not as many features as the other two. It also spends a lot of time moving off main drains. I find it climbs walls/steps much less often than the other two. Scuba Pro would do well climbing I'm sure, but weight wise it's a heavy machine. Definitely feels the most premium though out of the three if you don't mind the weight and size of the pro. I would assume you mean the wybot S2 since it's around the other two price ranges. I LOVE the S2. Literally, it does really well for the price and features. It's lightweight and climbs steps to the baja just fine. If anything, you could buy the cleaner off amz and if it doesn't work out, return it from amz. If you buy it directly from the manufacturer website you might end up going through loops trying to return their cleaner. I haven't had issues, but other people have mentioned it. Hope that helps!

@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks for the info. I do have an 18" wide ledge that runs down one side of the pool to the shelf. The liberty would not climb the stairs or run the ledge to the shelf. If I go Wybot I was thinking the corded L1...although the M1 with solar panel looks promising. After dealing with the Liberty, I am not a fan of charging!

I would be reluctant with the M1 because technically it's an older model now. I actually was able to try it out back then and it wasn't great at all. The L1 would be like the Nautilus CC Plus but upgraded. One thing about that L1 is that the last few times I've used it it's been iffy with the wifi connection. It didn't do this at first but as of recently its taken me a few tries to connect it when running.

I'd have to sit down and really think about this! I could possibly do it if price wasn't an issue. A lot of the times people want the best cleaner for the best price. It's hard to value one feature over another, if it's worth more than say a different feature. Brand wise, I've been trying to use ALL of my cleaners at least once a month just to get more use out of it since I have so many. My situation is totally different than the normal pool owner so longevity wise, especially with the newer brands, I feel like I can't give a good recommendation. I mean, for me, all of the cleaners are working well so far regardless of brand... but I don't use them normally like a regular owner does.

It picks up some but if you get a lot, it would have a hard time getting all the sand. You would need a cleaner with an ultra-fine filter. Unfortunately I think this model no longer exists either. There's a newer model called the Crab that's very similar. Also doesn't do well with a lot of sand.

I still have all my cleaners. Although I don't use it every week, I'd say I run every cleaner once at least every month. I know that's not the norm for anyone else but I have so many to choose from and to test. The Freedom works great as a plug and play. Just charge it, run it, and then take it out and repeat for the next run. It's built solid like other Polaris cleaners. But again, I haven't used it daily for the last few years. Good luck! Hope that helps

It's still wet, but not sopping wet. The baskets inside each skimmer drain quickly once out of the pool. You can still see each basket dripping a little before showing the debris.

Thank you! 😃

It probably won't clean a very shallow deck(no cleaner will, at least the ones I've tested) because it needs enough water to move in and out the machine and shallow water doesn't have enough surface area.

Our shallow sundeck is about 8 inches deep and is 7’x15’. I am not concerned with having that area cleaned, just looking for a cleaner when cleaning the walls it doesn’t shut down when it gets to the sundeck area. Would be nice if it did go back to deeper water or if could program to clean floor/walls and not go up on sundeck and shutdown. Thank you for the great reviews you do!

Instead of the S1 Pro, the normal S1 would do just fine I think. Even the Wybot C1 would be a good choice. I've never had either of those two get stuck on my ledge. They both know to back up and not power down.

How shallow is your deck area? I have two small steps that all cleaners won't climb because it's only about 6 inches worth of water. But what's strange is that the cleaner should sense that and back out before getting stuck and shutting off. I have another area that's about 12-14 inches of water and most cleaners that climb will be able to get up there fine.

Thanks for this, I just got one and live in AZ too. I have been taking it out at night and wondering if any sort of maintenance is needed. Sounds like not much!