I bought a Seauto Seal. It's just ok. It just randomly goes around the pool not the efficient pattern in some of their ads. Leads to missed spots. Only gets about 50% of the walls. Good at getting stuff off the bottom though.
Great video. I bought a Seauto Crab since I have a smaller pool. Mine on has Cover All mode. I reached out to company and they stated a new app is in the works but when released, they will charge you for being able to select the different modes (or unlock those modes). They told me first few users won’t be charged but I may take back since I’m still in return window. It works ok but doesn’t go all the way up on walls and it would be nice to have floor only option. I appreciate your channel and your honest reviews.
What? That's terrible. One of the biggest selling points is it being a simple plug n play cleaner. Forcing you to use an app and charging more will change my opinion on this cleaner... Thank you for letting me know!
I got mine today. I was able to use the app to change the mode, and I didn't pay. As a matter of fact, once unlocked, you can change the mode by pressing the button on the unit. No need to connect to the phone.
Hey David. Great video. I recently got a Scuba S1 and it does not cover all of my pool like I was wishing. It leaves about 40% of the pool untouched. I have a kidney shaped pool with a pretty big deep end and not alot of shallow en. I was looking at the Seal and then saw this. Would you recommend this for my style of pool?
I'm sorry to hear that the Scuba didn't work out. The Seal is more aggressive and can actually handle depths of over 15 feet according to the manual so it might do better for your pool. The Seal/Crab/Smonet is all the same. This one in the video is the newer model Seal. But keep in mind there isn't a weekly timer for the Seal if that's important to you.
In my use, same style pool, it gets about 80% off a full charge in all cleaning mode, wall and bottom, didn't get the steps, not all the bottom got picked up. I am planning on returning mine, not worth the money
@@LancerNik13 I returned my Scuba and got this Seal. I can say its much better than the Scuba. It gets 90, if not all of my pool. I am very glad I got the Seauto....the only thing will be how it holds up.
I’m not sure I caught the difference between the SEAL SE from last year and the 2024 version; aside from body and perhaps the way the filter is removed. So if you could have either last year’s or this years at the same price; which one and why?
As of today, I just realized the new 2024 version does not include the physical option to change modes on the cleaner itself. Seauto has decided to allow that only in their app which will be available later on. This is a bummer. A downgrade to last years model imo. A downgrade in options for a plug n play cleaner. So aside from the physical looks, it moves and works the same. I would get the previous model if you're still able to find it. They're already phasing it out.
Thanks for the reply. Too many brands/names for this same cordless vacuum- makes it difficult. Aside from the difference you pointed out being the lack of an app to change mode, it does appear very little other change from the Seal SE. They have the same suction power; so real change is size, weight and sq. ft. Coverage.
They sadly discontinued the 2023 version of the Seal and Shark. Which sucks because those models are actually the better version imo than the new Crab version for 2024.
I have a seauto shark and I’ve only had it since March and had no problems with it till today. It had a flashing yellow light saying caution left pump motor. How do I go about that? And why isn’t the shark on the website anymore, with that will the company be able to help me?
From what I've heard from others, it's very hard getting in touch with Seauto. They discontinued the Shark model and no longer sell it. That's unfortunate because it works great and was the least expensive cordless option with ultra-fine filter and waterline cleaning. I don't know if anyone has had any luck contacting them for warranty work. They have contact info on their seautorobots website if that helps.
On these models here, none of them do unfortunately. This could be that they are working on a higher end model with that option to be released later on, or they want to focus primarily on this value cleaner market at the moment.
Hey David I recently spoke to you last week. I bought the nautilus cc plus and not really a big fan of it. My pool is very similar to yours and the nautilus can’t make it up to my tanning ledge. As far as picking up sand and dirt it doesn’t get everything either and that’s with the ultra fine filter. I am thinking of going with cordless now which would you recommend far as robot vacuums go ?
I'm sorry to hear that the CC Plus didn't work for your pool! When the ultra-fine filters are used it does lower the suction to the cleaner. Because it needs more power to suck debris through the thicker filters. You could try to use the normal fine filters and see if it climbs better but that still wouldn't fix the dirt and sand issue. For cordless cleaners, the Seauto Shark does well to pick up dirt/sand at a good price point but no weekly timer. The Aiper Scuba S1 is also great and has a weekly timer but no ultra-fine filter. And then there are a few other cordless cleaners with ultra-fine filters that go well above the 1k mark for price.
@@imdefinitelydavidno worries thanks for the feedback. I might try it with the original filters and see how that works. As of now I’m looking at the scuba s1 , seagull, and wybot c1. Between the aipers scuba vs seagull which do you prefer ? And do you have any opinions on the wybot c1?
Between the Scuba S1 and the Seagull Pro I would go for the Scuba. It has a better navigation system and more power as well as a weekly timer. The S1 is like the newer version of the Seagull Pro with more features. I haven't used the Wybot C1 but it looks a lot like the Osprey 700 that worked well. The price seems really nice actually.
Hey Josh, I don't know if you're still trying out the CC Plus or switched over yet but Wybot sent me a corded cleaner to review and it's actually REALLY good for the price. It's the Wybot L1 and it's slightly more expensive than the CC Plus but it comes with a UFF and smart app. I will be posting that video soon. Also, I'm in the works with them about reviewing the C1 soon too so I'll have that video up as well.
@@imdefinitelydavidhey David I am still having issues with the CC. Now it’s getting stuck in corners of the pool. And I changed it back to the original filters. I just saw your new review on the wybot. At this point I’m getting nervous spending close to 1k for a pool vacuum and it not performing you know what I mean? I guess in your opinion what’s the average/good cordless vacuum that’s going to climb walls and tan ledge and not get stuck in corners?
For me, I always lean towards tracks for sure. My walls/steps/ledges are a steep 90 degree angle and tracks just work better to climb them. Wheels are better if you have a simpler kind of bowl shaped pool if that makes sense. If you don't need the steep climbing that tracks offer. Since wheels do last longer than tracks generally, that's something to consider
Sorry, they did not release an ultra-fine filter for this Seal. I wish they did. And the Shark model which used to have the filter is no longer for sale either.
I wanted to buy the Seauto Shark and like everyone else has mentioned, I can’t find it anywhere. I want an ultra fine filter and have a 12.5k gallon pool so it’s not too big. What is the best option if I can’t find a Shark? They were around $1k last I could find them. Thanks for the great content!
Unfortunately since the Shark is no longer available there aren't many inexpensive options with an ultra-fine filter. The only cordless ones with ultra-fine filter I can think of are the Dolphin Liberty 300 and the Aiper Scuba S1 Pro. Both of those are around the 1k mark though. Even more expensive would be the Beatbot AP.
I have an L shaped vinyl liner pool with a lenght about 20x40. The deep end is about 8.5 feet. and piol is about 30000 gallons. Which cordless pool cleaner would you recommend? Thanks for all your reviews. Great job!!!
The Seal and Shark are very aggressive waterline scrubbers. Although it says its safe for vinyl pools I wouldn't risk using it in a vinyl pool. A very good CORDLESS cleaner that I've used recently is the Scuba S1. It's a bit more expensive and covers the waterline as well but not super aggressive like the Seautos. You might want to take a look at that Scuba S1 for your pool!
Unfortunately I downloaded and connected to the app before watching this video. Now, it won't work at all and keeps saying "Oops, failed to update, please retry". I uninstalled the app but it still keeps saying that. Any ideas?
There's a hard reset process on the cleaner itself. Push the ON/POWER button and then within 2 seconds hold the ON/POWER button again. The light should turn white. Press the ON/POWER button again and it should turn yellow and begin the reset. Hopefully that works and resets the app too.
How close is the cover to the water? Because the cleaner will definitely move above the water a few inches and may come in contact with your cover depending on how close it is
The Shark is better if you need that ultra-fine filter. So if you get tiny debris and a lot of it like sand, the Shark is better. I wish the Seal had an ultra-fine filter but nope. Weird because I've actually put the Shark's basket into the Seal and it works fine.
Ok so I’m in the market for a pool cleaner and we are about to take on the pool maintenance ourselves in order to save a few dollars, our pool is 14 x 26 (just a rectangle nothing fancy) and it goes from 4’ deep to 6’ deep, so what would you recommend
Are you thinking of cordless or corded? Need a weekly timer or no? Are you techy with wifi/apps or do you prefer a simple plug/play cleaner? We never used to have so many options before lol
@@imdefinitelydavid yeap ver true, personally plug and play , cordless would be great if the power is there to vacuum but our most important thing is that is actually cleaned the pool so an ultra fine filter I think would be necessary, I don’t think that an app or anything like that is necessary (we work from home so we are always here and it’s not like I could ask the robot to crawl itself to the pool if I’m away unless it was already there so not necessary but if it has it then great), thank you so much for responding, I’ve been watching your videos and they are great and yes lots of robots and options.
So this is where it gets even harder, lol. Finding a CORDLESS cleaner with filter at a good price is the hard part. I've done a lot of great valued cleaners, but a majority of the time, they don't include UFFs, unfortunately. So you kind of have to expect to pay more. I wish they would sell a separate UFF but these companies don't and want you to spend more on the next model up. A few to consider: Seauto Shark: Least expensive option, but from what I hear, it's hard to find right now. I think they're possibly going to release a new version/model soon. Dolphin Liberty 300: expensive for the features IMO, but you get a well-known brand here/warranty/customer support. Aiper Scuba S1 Pro: This is the model above the normal S1 but it will have an UFF with enhanced waterline cleaning. About the cost of the Liberty but more features. I'm very excited about this one but unfortunately it's not yet released(supposed to be this month). Beatbot Aquasense: Haven't used this one yet but have heard mixed reviews. Also kind of expensive.
No there's 2 versions. There's the normal one that you're seeing around 1.1k and the Pro version around 2k. The Pro version is a robotic cleaner with also a built-in surface pool skimmer. Hence the more expensive price. It's the first-ever of it's kind. The normal Aquasense is the robotic cleaner only.
There's a hard reset process on the cleaner itself. Push the ON/POWER button and then within 2 seconds hold the ON/POWER button again. The light should turn white. Press the ON/POWER button again and it should turn yellow and begin the reset. Hopefully that works and resets the app too.
Are you sure the crab is exactly the same? I have heard they are the same on the outside but not the inside. The crab is also $150 cheaper which seems suspicious to me.
I noticed that too. If they released the new Seal then most likely. Could also mean low on stock too because they're selling both versions of the Seal still.
That's one of their issues. They say there's an app and sometimes it shows up and then disappears and if you are able to download the app, later on it won't connect. Not great in that aspect sorry. Great as a physical plug and play cleaner. But terrible for app support
NOT THE SAME MACHINE They have quietly “updated” & replaced the seal with the crab Now - Is not compatible with app - Can no longer change modes (All Cover, Floor, or Wall only) it is permanently on All Cover only - Redesigned - Now called the CRAB instead of Seal
Yes, the new Crab version is different. I have updated my description to include that info and will be redoing the video for the new Seal/Crab. Pretty unfortunate they did this, it's a downgrade to the original Seal model of last year. And they no longer sell that version either.
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I bought a Seauto Seal. It's just ok. It just randomly goes around the pool not the efficient pattern in some of their ads. Leads to missed spots. Only gets about 50% of the walls. Good at getting stuff off the bottom though.
Great video. I bought a Seauto Crab since I have a smaller pool. Mine on has Cover All mode. I reached out to company and they stated a new app is in the works but when released, they will charge you for being able to select the different modes (or unlock those modes). They told me first few users won’t be charged but I may take back since I’m still in return window. It works ok but doesn’t go all the way up on walls and it would be nice to have floor only option. I appreciate your channel and your honest reviews.
What? That's terrible. One of the biggest selling points is it being a simple plug n play cleaner. Forcing you to use an app and charging more will change my opinion on this cleaner...
Thank you for letting me know!
@@imdefinitelydavid I agree, not good at all. They don’t reveal until you purchase. That’s why I went with this one, simple.
I got mine today. I was able to use the app to change the mode, and I didn't pay. As a matter of fact, once unlocked, you can change the mode by pressing the button on the unit. No need to connect to the phone.
They've been changing this since a lot of people complained. I'm glad they listened. Thanks for the info!
Hey David. Great video. I recently got a Scuba S1 and it does not cover all of my pool like I was wishing. It leaves about 40% of the pool untouched. I have a kidney shaped pool with a pretty big deep end and not alot of shallow en. I was looking at the Seal and then saw this. Would you recommend this for my style of pool?
I'm sorry to hear that the Scuba didn't work out. The Seal is more aggressive and can actually handle depths of over 15 feet according to the manual so it might do better for your pool.
The Seal/Crab/Smonet is all the same. This one in the video is the newer model Seal. But keep in mind there isn't a weekly timer for the Seal if that's important to you.
In my use, same style pool, it gets about 80% off a full charge in all cleaning mode, wall and bottom, didn't get the steps, not all the bottom got picked up. I am planning on returning mine, not worth the money
@@LancerNik13 I returned my Scuba and got this Seal. I can say its much better than the Scuba. It gets 90, if not all of my pool. I am very glad I got the Seauto....the only thing will be how it holds up.
I’m not sure I caught the difference between the SEAL SE from last year and the 2024 version; aside from body and perhaps the way the filter is removed.
So if you could have either last year’s or this years at the same price; which one and why?
As of today, I just realized the new 2024 version does not include the physical option to change modes on the cleaner itself.
Seauto has decided to allow that only in their app which will be available later on. This is a bummer. A downgrade to last years model imo. A downgrade in options for a plug n play cleaner.
So aside from the physical looks, it moves and works the same. I would get the previous model if you're still able to find it. They're already phasing it out.
Thanks for the reply. Too many brands/names for this same cordless vacuum- makes it difficult.
Aside from the difference you pointed out being the lack of an app to change mode, it does appear very little other change from the Seal SE. They have the same suction power; so real change is size, weight and sq. ft. Coverage.
Are they not selling the shark or seal? i just see the crab available unless I purchase used off Amazon
They sadly discontinued the 2023 version of the Seal and Shark. Which sucks because those models are actually the better version imo than the new Crab version for 2024.
@@imdefinitelydavidwhich is your favorite cleaner available now? I have above ground 24ft
I have a seauto shark and I’ve only had it since March and had no problems with it till today. It had a flashing yellow light saying caution left pump motor. How do I go about that? And why isn’t the shark on the website anymore, with that will the company be able to help me?
From what I've heard from others, it's very hard getting in touch with Seauto. They discontinued the Shark model and no longer sell it. That's unfortunate because it works great and was the least expensive cordless option with ultra-fine filter and waterline cleaning. I don't know if anyone has had any luck contacting them for warranty work. They have contact info on their seautorobots website if that helps.
Looks great!👍
SMONET CR6
Which models have the ultra fine particle option?
On these models here, none of them do unfortunately. This could be that they are working on a higher end model with that option to be released later on, or they want to focus primarily on this value cleaner market at the moment.
Hey David I recently spoke to you last week. I bought the nautilus cc plus and not really a big fan of it. My pool is very similar to yours and the nautilus can’t make it up to my tanning ledge. As far as picking up sand and dirt it doesn’t get everything either and that’s with the ultra fine filter. I am thinking of going with cordless now which would you recommend far as robot vacuums go ?
I'm sorry to hear that the CC Plus didn't work for your pool! When the ultra-fine filters are used it does lower the suction to the cleaner. Because it needs more power to suck debris through the thicker filters. You could try to use the normal fine filters and see if it climbs better but that still wouldn't fix the dirt and sand issue.
For cordless cleaners, the Seauto Shark does well to pick up dirt/sand at a good price point but no weekly timer. The Aiper Scuba S1 is also great and has a weekly timer but no ultra-fine filter.
And then there are a few other cordless cleaners with ultra-fine filters that go well above the 1k mark for price.
@@imdefinitelydavidno worries thanks for the feedback. I might try it with the original filters and see how that works. As of now I’m looking at the scuba s1 , seagull, and wybot c1.
Between the aipers scuba vs seagull which do you prefer ?
And do you have any opinions on the wybot c1?
Between the Scuba S1 and the Seagull Pro I would go for the Scuba. It has a better navigation system and more power as well as a weekly timer. The S1 is like the newer version of the Seagull Pro with more features.
I haven't used the Wybot C1 but it looks a lot like the Osprey 700 that worked well. The price seems really nice actually.
Hey Josh, I don't know if you're still trying out the CC Plus or switched over yet but Wybot sent me a corded cleaner to review and it's actually REALLY good for the price. It's the Wybot L1 and it's slightly more expensive than the CC Plus but it comes with a UFF and smart app. I will be posting that video soon.
Also, I'm in the works with them about reviewing the C1 soon too so I'll have that video up as well.
@@imdefinitelydavidhey David I am still having issues with the CC. Now it’s getting stuck in corners of the pool. And I changed it back to the original filters. I just saw your new review on the wybot. At this point I’m getting nervous spending close to 1k for a pool vacuum and it not performing you know what I mean? I guess in your opinion what’s the average/good cordless vacuum that’s going to climb walls and tan ledge and not get stuck in corners?
I can not find the app the store says it's not available
I know tracks and wheels have pros and cons. Which you lean more towards overall?
For me, I always lean towards tracks for sure. My walls/steps/ledges are a steep 90 degree angle and tracks just work better to climb them. Wheels are better if you have a simpler kind of bowl shaped pool if that makes sense. If you don't need the steep climbing that tracks offer. Since wheels do last longer than tracks generally, that's something to consider
What ultra fine filter can be used since this bot does not come with a ultra fine filter. Can you post a Amazon link? Thank you.
Sorry, they did not release an ultra-fine filter for this Seal. I wish they did. And the Shark model which used to have the filter is no longer for sale either.
@@imdefinitelydavid well that sucks lol. Thank you for the response
I wanted to buy the Seauto Shark and like everyone else has mentioned, I can’t find it anywhere. I want an ultra fine filter and have a 12.5k gallon pool so it’s not too big. What is the best option if I can’t find a Shark? They were around $1k last I could find them. Thanks for the great content!
Unfortunately since the Shark is no longer available there aren't many inexpensive options with an ultra-fine filter.
The only cordless ones with ultra-fine filter I can think of are the Dolphin Liberty 300 and the Aiper Scuba S1 Pro. Both of those are around the 1k mark though. Even more expensive would be the Beatbot AP.
I have an L shaped vinyl liner pool with a lenght about 20x40. The deep end is about 8.5 feet. and piol is about 30000 gallons. Which cordless pool cleaner would you recommend? Thanks for all your reviews. Great job!!!
The Seal and Shark are very aggressive waterline scrubbers. Although it says its safe for vinyl pools I wouldn't risk using it in a vinyl pool. A very good CORDLESS cleaner that I've used recently is the Scuba S1. It's a bit more expensive and covers the waterline as well but not super aggressive like the Seautos. You might want to take a look at that Scuba S1 for your pool!
Thank you!!@@imdefinitelydavid
Unfortunately I downloaded and connected to the app before watching this video. Now, it won't work at all and keeps saying "Oops, failed to update, please retry". I uninstalled the app but it still keeps saying that. Any ideas?
There's a hard reset process on the cleaner itself.
Push the ON/POWER button and then within 2 seconds hold the ON/POWER button again. The light should turn white. Press the ON/POWER button again and it should turn yellow and begin the reset.
Hopefully that works and resets the app too.
Let me know if this hard reset worked. I too just bought this unit it will not work. It says oops failed etc... I'm so frustrated
How does it compare to wybot c1? That one is 40 dollars more
Haven't tested the C1 yet. I have the Osprey 700 and the C1 is the newer version of it I think. I'll reach out to Wybot.
David will this robot do ok when my autocover is closed?
How close is the cover to the water? Because the cleaner will definitely move above the water a few inches and may come in contact with your cover depending on how close it is
@@imdefinitelydavid it's a few inches above but then it sags down to water level quickly. We'll see how it does, should arrive tomorrow. 👍
Great video! Would you recommend this or the shark? Does the shark perform any better?
The Shark is better if you need that ultra-fine filter. So if you get tiny debris and a lot of it like sand, the Shark is better. I wish the Seal had an ultra-fine filter but nope. Weird because I've actually put the Shark's basket into the Seal and it works fine.
Other than the filter, do you think they perform the same. In other words, if the ultrafine filter is not installed, do they do the same job?
Well the Shark is definitely stronger so it cleans better in general. Do you have a big pool? The Shark would be definitely better in a bigger pool
Ok so I’m in the market for a pool cleaner and we are about to take on the pool maintenance ourselves in order to save a few dollars, our pool is 14 x 26 (just a rectangle nothing fancy) and it goes from 4’ deep to 6’ deep, so what would you recommend
Are you thinking of cordless or corded? Need a weekly timer or no? Are you techy with wifi/apps or do you prefer a simple plug/play cleaner? We never used to have so many options before lol
@@imdefinitelydavid yeap ver true, personally plug and play , cordless would be great if the power is there to vacuum but our most important thing is that is actually cleaned the pool so an ultra fine filter I think would be necessary, I don’t think that an app or anything like that is necessary (we work from home so we are always here and it’s not like I could ask the robot to crawl itself to the pool if I’m away unless it was already there so not necessary but if it has it then great), thank you so much for responding, I’ve been watching your videos and they are great and yes lots of robots and options.
So this is where it gets even harder, lol.
Finding a CORDLESS cleaner with filter at a good price is the hard part. I've done a lot of great valued cleaners, but a majority of the time, they don't include UFFs, unfortunately. So you kind of have to expect to pay more. I wish they would sell a separate UFF but these companies don't and want you to spend more on the next model up.
A few to consider:
Seauto Shark: Least expensive option, but from what I hear, it's hard to find right now. I think they're possibly going to release a new version/model soon.
Dolphin Liberty 300: expensive for the features IMO, but you get a well-known brand here/warranty/customer support.
Aiper Scuba S1 Pro: This is the model above the normal S1 but it will have an UFF with enhanced waterline cleaning. About the cost of the Liberty but more features. I'm very excited about this one but unfortunately it's not yet released(supposed to be this month).
Beatbot Aquasense: Haven't used this one yet but have heard mixed reviews. Also kind of expensive.
@@imdefinitelydavid is the beat aquasense the same as the beat bit aquasense pro cause it’s about 1k on amazon right now
No there's 2 versions. There's the normal one that you're seeing around 1.1k and the Pro version around 2k.
The Pro version is a robotic cleaner with also a built-in surface pool skimmer. Hence the more expensive price. It's the first-ever of it's kind.
The normal Aquasense is the robotic cleaner only.
How do i get it off the app and just use the on button it just keeps saying the app has failed?
There's a hard reset process on the cleaner itself.
Push the ON/POWER button and then within 2 seconds hold the ON/POWER button again. The light should turn white. Press the ON/POWER button again and it should turn yellow and begin the reset.
Hopefully that works and resets the app too.
Are you sure the crab is exactly the same? I have heard they are the same on the outside but not the inside. The crab is also $150 cheaper which seems suspicious to me.
Are they releasing a new shark model? Seems they pulled the model off Amazon. Was going to purchase one.
I noticed that too. If they released the new Seal then most likely. Could also mean low on stock too because they're selling both versions of the Seal still.
@@imdefinitelydavid was on sale for 400$ off guess I missed the chance.
David, having trouble locating the android app for this device. Any suggestions?
That's one of their issues. They say there's an app and sometimes it shows up and then disappears and if you are able to download the app, later on it won't connect. Not great in that aspect sorry. Great as a physical plug and play cleaner. But terrible for app support
Same problem
@@mattsprague1862 NO app , i sent mine back also broke in one day crap
Not sure what pattern he's talking about. Looks random to me.
NOT THE SAME MACHINE
They have quietly “updated” & replaced the seal with the crab
Now
- Is not compatible with app
- Can no longer change modes (All
Cover, Floor, or Wall only) it is permanently on All Cover only
- Redesigned
- Now called the CRAB instead of Seal
Yes, the new Crab version is different. I have updated my description to include that info and will be redoing the video for the new Seal/Crab.
Pretty unfortunate they did this, it's a downgrade to the original Seal model of last year. And they no longer sell that version either.
@@imdefinitelydavid I agree, thank you for having the updated description as some TH-camrs never reflect any flaws. 👍🏼
Looks like you can still change modes