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my favourite wallbugs are easily on process cause of antoni's clips, theyre so cool to watch

your voice is so soothing

Love your content! I’m not really interested in TF2 comp, but your advice has already helped me think about other competitive strategies in different games. Plus your stuff is entertaining ❤️

Did you name a callout called "Batman"?

I remember I was watching an invite semi or grand finals game on Process and one of the players went pyro with the thermal thruster and wallbugged on the rollout wall on 2nd, and they actually fragged out somehow

1:12 did you just dodge that rocket with a jump

9:14 holy shit!

th-cam.com/video/L-Xty9cDDxc/w-d-xo.html Here is a fantastic video demonstrating good hiding by swedish player equal, who also created cp_entropy. i particularly like the spot in sunshine's lighthouse and above metalworks banana

This is my hiding spot, and I’m not leaving it until the situation drastically improves! Augh oogh ow

Now join us for our next lecture where we will be discussing "edging".

welcome to everyone's favorite gameshow, "do their players know how to turn around?"

Fun topic! 6s oldhead here, one of my favorite TF2 memories was winning a CEVO open match off a med pick where our roamer soldier hid on the lamps above the doors to mid on Granary. No idea why they didn't check for a sticky trap but hey, we take those.

most amount of dopamine ive ever felt playing this game was doing a coordinated spy-flank scout back cap on snakewater. that map is great for plays like that, so many people just dont check lower when leaving last

hide and seek but if someone finds you they die

T t t today jr!

15:22 Bruh, that medic 😂

Because competitive gaming as a whole is the reason most games die, and goes against the philosophy of tf2 as a concept. Most dead games follow this cycle, release, everyone is casual, people start to get better at the game, people start to get so good at the game new player experience goes down drastically since they can't have any fun in matches, no new players stick with the game long enough to get good, and good players get tired of fighting the same kinds of players for hours. The only way to survive this is hit the sweet spot of popularity on one of two sides of a spectrum. You're rainbow six siege where literally everyone and I mean everyone is playing like they're going for an esports sign, or you build a hyper niche but somewhat prone of booms of popularity like a lot of old 7th gen shooters or tf2. Competitive imo can only serve to kill tf2 and it's literally an impossible problem to solve, since adding a comp mode basically never works since comp players just avoid it in every game. I'm just thankful sixes has never taken off or gained any popularity

I think at least some of the hate Casual players have for 6s comes from the fact that when valve were still making balance changes to the game they would occasionally nerf a weapon that wasn't that great or was only good in really specific circumstances in casual but really busted in a format like 6s. Its less of an issue today considering valve really hasn't done any balance changes in quite a while but those kind of wounds run deep. It also doesn't help you will occasionally 6s players to this day make baffling statements like "The Cowmangler is overpowers and should be nerfed". Yeah its good in 6s because the downside it has doesn't come into effect because no engineers. In casual you are essentially telling your team they are going to have to deal with engineer nests because you can't do anything about them.

Do you think a 3cp gamemode could work hypothetically? In a map that isn't as goofy as powerhouse is, that is

5cp format is boring to watch and full of stalemates. (And lack of class diversity).

Very useful, thank you!

What about a video on gameplay styles and behaviors people fall into that get predicted idk weird personal problem for me, a video on something like how to change your mindset so not to be predictable or something maybe

TF2 is one of the visually cleanest shooters that are played competitively. The entire game was designed around readability. People saying this are definitely saying this in bad faith, confusing chaos is basically an inherent property of esports.

For a game with 12 players to follow, in my opinion, 6s is extremely readable for the audience.

I thought you were going to read the comics

Why don’t they show damage numbers in comp games?

I think that HUD would be quicker to read if health was displayed as a health bar rather than numbers.

hey rumpus in your last video you talked about the creatures of MGE so i think it would be really funny if you made a video kind of like a nature documentary about "the creatures of MGE/open pugs"

Read me

Very few e-sports possess a good experience for spectators, and this is usually just a byproduct of genre and design. Compared to a lot of games, TF2 has it pretty good for spectator clarity: an art style that pops, recognizable characters, team colored map sides, and a lack of visual effects. I honestly feel that TF2's shortcoming as a spectator experience is typically from a lack of understanding/explanation to spectators about how uber & player ad drive 5cp. There was a short explanatory intro that was ~5 minutes that was shown during iSeries 60->, but it wasn't adopted as a standard for casting nor for VODs. So very rarely are there spectators, who've never played comp, that understand what might be going on during a casted match. Bonus: I was the red medic in this pug.

i thought the video was about reading books and other literature about tf2 and was proven wrong in the first 10 seconds of the video. i was so intrigued to see who would write a book about tf2 😔

Why read when you can spam stickies into a choke (i have 12 hours on demo)

"Dad can you read me a bedtime story?" "Sure son"

I would say that another major difference between 6s and Smogon singles is that single battles are the majority of battles in the main game, so some minor changes to the rules means that it's really easy to play smogon formats. Also the fact that there is a place for every Pokémon since they do tiers for every single generation of Pokémon so there is at least one tier out there where someone's favourite Pokémon is a viable option compared to 6s where that concept doesn't really exist. Edit: also yeah nah singles can take as long as the times you mentioned 6s takes, the average single battle in this current generation of Pokémon is 36-40 turns iirc which translates to 25 minutes of playing

A lot of people have said that 6s isn't interesting to them because it so little resembles the "TF2 but with stakes", which seems pretty intuitive, but disinterest and hostility are different things. I wonder if the hostility comes from a sense that the dominance of 6s as a competitive format might have prevented "TF2 but with stakes" from existing. That definitely isn't correct, and I'm pretty sure 6s directly evolved from "TF2 but with stakes" anyway, but a feeling that an opportunity was taken from them could explain why someone would become so personally invested in a game mode they never play or watch. It also reminds me a bit of the hostility some people have towards speedrunning (and especially TASing), complaining that the runner isn't "playing the game normally", because what they really want is to see someone play the game as they would but really fast. Some modern speedruns turn their games into things that are barely recognizable. (That said, speedrunning communities are famously welcoming and put real effort into helping new runners, which is something that competitive TF2 has never been able to pull off, despite a good number of people trying.) This _does_ make we wonder what 12v12 "anything goes" match ups with stable team rosters would actually look like in 2024. Would something resembling a meta emerge, or would there be too much chaos for it to ever be more than an unusually brutal pub game? (Comms would certainly be hell.)

27:52 but while in the air they are susceptible to stickies since base jumper is very slow and in the time the sticky is close the arm time is done and you can spam him and the best way for a soldier to counter this is cutting his parachute or slowly descend and a scout can pepper him with his pistol its way more effective bombing and the only real issue is soldier getting into a weird spots i dont see base jumper issue its too situational and in the situations where it holds value it only takes demoman to switch to loch n load or quickiebomb launcher and spam him out you will outdamage him by the time the soldier rocket gets to you you already hit him with at least 2 stickies.

I've never tried the Competitive mode that's in game and it not even being on this tier list makes me wonder. What are your thoughts on it? ALSO: Passtime right where it belongs 💯

Comp tf2 isn't tf2🤷‍♂️

As a pyro main and overall goober, i have come loath competitive on the grounds it constantly nerfs and ruins all the fun stuff in the name of “trickle down balance “. The RS is now useless cause Soldiers kept mewling that is ruined their jump. BASE jump has been castrated to name a few. Worst part even with the balance made for comp, they don’t even whitelist them for use. The only thing trickling down is a steady stream of piss.

i only play casual and i never have fun in 5cp. just getting rolled and rolling

Jumping in S tier saved your life tbh.

Bro forgot to rank ta scrims 😂😭

4v4 competitive passtime is sick as a game can be.

jump S tier letsgo

What an amazingly high quality video. Collected, well spoken, and informative. Love it. First video I've seen from you, good job!

Okay highlander sucks but I'd still take it over NR sixes any day. NR sixes is basically only playable in koth.

interesting hearing that you dislike highlander so much but pretty fair explanation

yea highlander

where would mvm go?

VSH would be S tier if it wasn't arena.