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you would think payload race is the perfect competitive gamemode. it's symmetrical, so its not biased towards red or blu. it's a moving objective so it cant be shutdown by sentries. and it's very open and vertical, so soldiers/demos/scouts do really well in it. it literally cant stalemate. it'd be interesting to see payload race be played in competitive

Never played 6s in my 11 years of playing tf2. But i watch the competitive finals since the ronin vs froyo days.

West coas teams: non-existent

The fairly rigid team comp does make off-classing interesting to watch. I’m always like “oh man, they’re on the last point, here comes Engi and Heavy.” Or that part where you switched to Sniper that would have been super cool if you had hit that headshot.

i love your videos ^u^ thank you!

Highlander sweep if 8v8 with no snipers allowed.

Nah 2 demos instead of 2 sollies would be better yk , only reason this is the best is because of current restrictions, same for 2 medics

I think you rock

Has it ever been tried running a pyro instead of pocket scout? I could see the airblast and either chip damage from shotgun or detonator with movement from powerjack making a viable option?

#removesniper

Beautiful thumbnail btw

You won’t believe how much my blood boiled whenever my scout stayed sniper after getting a pick holding last.

Yeah but sniper

Well Seymour, you call this a demo playback despite the fact that the class being played is clearly Soldier!

Most optimal in 5cp or current 5cp map design. If there was forward *spy* bases in enemy territory off classing would be soo much easier as spy or a soldier quickly switching to 1 when behind. If 5cp had setup phase lot more strategy could be done. If the flank was on the air with few breather spots heavy or engie would be amazing for denial. If the control points had longer capture time fights could be kited or fought slowly. This is a problem of the environment

Scout really likes it when his teammates have crowd control and splash damage to break up and soften deathballing enemy teams.

Nice seeing your thumbnail game get better and better with each video

I think this format of video has a lot of potential as a sorta-podcast thing, would be even better if you bring along one of your buds for counter arguments and discussions. keep it up rump! 👍

I feel this meta is best for Spies as well cause its funniest when Spies jusy pop out of no where and idsappear, maybe get a kill, but havibg a constant Spy presence is prob a no go, maybe with specfic strats tho.

I still feel that Pyro is viable as a semi-generalist class at least (IF they unban all his weapons like the Dragons Fury)

Lets be real, Sniper just makes the game unfun, missing the entire point of why people play at all, even for the sniper players (they usually have to supplement the TF2 experience with music or podcasts to have an enjoyable experience as Sniper which is why you see so many deaf snipers in community and casual)

Honestly even though everyone complains about how the cookie cutter meta is "stale" it's the most optimal 6v6 composition. The other classes suffer in a low populated match outside of certain situations. Pyro deals crowd control damage and can spycheck, but with less players and a dedicated medic it gets nullified outside of disad holds or niche plays. (I wish they'd raise the flame's skill ceiling to reward tracking more though). Heavy has low mobility and without support from his team (defense, heals, tele) he suffers when the fight isn't right outside spawn. Engi's buildings thrive more when there's more players and it's slower paced, as he needs time to build the support. Sniper's similar to heavy due to his reliance on protection and lower mobility, but to a less extreme extent. Spy is a wild card depending on enemy knowledge, and against a prepared team is just an invisible solemn vow. I feel like if there was a comp 12v12 format with similar class limits, 6s offclasses would be a lot more impactful, as pyro can harass and reflect more, heavy/sniper has more protection, more players are using teles/dispensers, and spy can take advantage of the chaos.

i dont understand the benefit of a scout as soldier when you could just have a shotgun to clean up kills. is it deeper than just having a person using a shotgun?

you dont get it bro, our am team is going 5-4 this season with perma sniper its good bro i promise

sick thumbnails. it's only a matter of time before we get fully edited wild rumpus videos

Honey wake up rumpus just posted

That was a pretty wacky demo to watch.

Bro you had that mf medics number

No it's because the 6s gestapo goes to the house of any off class mains and they're never seen again

comp players: our team is perfectly balanced for all situations and to cover each others weakness 50 vs 50 players: the other team has 20 engineers, we need 21 demomen to destroy their sentry nests

11:14 owned

No we need more heavy and spy cmon be fr

everyone knows you cant quit tf2 for foreversies. i thought i was the exception 2 years ago and im back already

54:32 the problem (for me, at least) w/ the diamondback in casual is the same as the phlog where it feels like sometimes I get killed for free b/c my randomly-selected teammates ate too much spam/had their tele sapped/whatnot. It’s a BALANCED weapon, but it can make being on a sup-par casual team feel even worse than normal.

10:46 I think a lot of casual players at the time thought the 6’s community helped kill TF2 by having Valve focus development on their game mode, creating the MYM fiasco. The 6’s folk were already kinda seen as weird elitist hermits that hide away inside of their totally different version of the game locked behind registrations and leagues, but for Valve to cater to them, causing the destruction of quickplay and many community servers, turned them from weirdos to a threat.

saying the quickie bomb launcher is as good as hoped for doesnt really feel fair with the gameplay showed fishstick and a couple others explained this well at how its similar to the direct hit in that it wants to be and is better focused at single target elimination while with the gameplay showed it just looks like spam and playing it like stock

10/10 thumbnail

on the opposite side, dunking on someone who bots at you feels so good

and now do a video with same title about the trash talking side of comp players being disrespectful

I thought they were disrespectful to new comp players

comp players are are Quake widowers.

I really appreciate your work

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stop clickbaiting

man i wish comp was more accessible

Because their life is miserable and they've got nothing else going on in their life. So they take the game as seriously as they can.

this isnt related to the video but i learned the volume 0.1 (or whatever number) tf2 console command from you so now i can change volume slightly faster. you learn something new every day

Wumpus really is a master baiter

Lmao ok now I understand I am extremely disrespectful, I mostly play matchmaking and used to mostly play uncletopia, I suck but I always keep my team, especially our better players on the offensive by getting into enemies faces when they thought they'd push us all back. One of my favorite things is when they uber except spend it killing only me the worst player. Its hilarious I'm pretty sure I play with no self preservation to the point that I can barely dm anymore, even if I go minutes with few points I constantly force ubers and waste or lot of it, and its not like I'm not trying mid match im just bad

thought this was about throwing people off their game by being an asshole. Such a shame 😔