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Answering Your Biggest Questions About WoW’s Game Masters
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Insider knowledge about World of Warcraft's Game Masters from a former GM. Answering your questions about the policies and tools that went into the work supporting one of Blizzard Entertainment's greatest games. Zug zug!
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Chapters
00:00 - 10 Years as a WoW Game Master
02:59 - How did players learn to skip the ticket queue?
04:42 - Could players become bounty hunters for bots?
06:04 - Are GMs actually doing anything with bug reports?
07:54 - Do Game Masters get insider previews for WoW?
09:08 - Could you befriend players on your personal account?
10:48 - Did you ever disagree with your manager about tickets?
12:35 - Was it okay to roleplay as not liking gnomes?
14:44 - Could GMs reply on the Battlenet forums?
15:33 - Were there GMs outside of Austin or spoke other languages?
16:39 - What was the most stressful ticket you ever had?
21:40 - Did you ever use the GM Interrogation Room?
23:24 - What did Tier 2 Game Masters do that T1s didn't?
25:02 - Did Game Masters use the normal WoW client?
25:48 - Could you "possess" players in-game?
27:02 - Did you ever ban someone for going to GM island?
29:23 - What was the biggest mistake you ever made as a GM?
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  • @rabbitOfDemise
    @rabbitOfDemise 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wouldn’t surprise me if blizzard is somehow in on the selling of gold. Why haven’t they taken action and why would they get mad at you for trying to help

  • @sac42c
    @sac42c 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Another note: my tagline for talking to players, "The wind picks up and the trees flutter, a majestic phenomenon fills that atmosphere as Game Master Esacaeus appears. Well met %n! Seems you are in need of assistance."

    • @NotYourFriend-YT
      @NotYourFriend-YT 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I love it! It's short but to the point-I bet players loved hearing it over the years!

  • @sac42c
    @sac42c 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting stuff. I was a GM at the Irvine office (before they had the campus) in 2007-2008. Things changed a lot from the time I was one and when you were one.

  • @Rhonam-23
    @Rhonam-23 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Gosh I was a newbie back then. My boyfriend, now husband, got me hooked on WOW. I remember getting those cookies! I'm saddened to hear your story but not surprised. Having lived through layoffs as a support person, I can sympathize with what you went through. Long live Game Masters

  • @mithylubu
    @mithylubu 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    back in 2013 I was suicidal and talking on WoW with my guild, I was so damn depressed, a GM was contacted by a guild mate, police showed up at my house and I got help. Didn't need a ticket at all. They do definately take it serious.

  • @livingconstellation6003
    @livingconstellation6003 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You aren't paying for the game when buying it through a digital store. You are paying for the license to play on that platform. It's why they can keep making you 'buy' the game over and over.

  • @epicgamerswag-k3l
    @epicgamerswag-k3l 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a way I can send you 15$ without subscribing to the patron? It wont send on patreon

    • @NotYourFriend-YT
      @NotYourFriend-YT 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the kind message Trent! I don't have a paypal or kofi set up, but you're welcome to join as a "member" on the TH-cam channel (that's just 5$) and I'll send you an invite to the Discord! Reply with your Discord username when you get a moment and I'll send a friend request your way. Thank you again for supporting the channel, and sorry that Patreon is being fussy.

    • @epicgamerswag-k3l
      @epicgamerswag-k3l 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@NotYourFriend-YT also i joined as a member. it was actually 2.99$. i love the nintendo videos the best but the blizzard one was great too. if i can get patreon to work tmrw i will. i have literally 37$ rn after becoming a member but my parents are gonna send me 15$ tmrw.

  • @epicgamerswag-k3l
    @epicgamerswag-k3l 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    the brain rot equivalent of video games

  • @epicgamerswag-k3l
    @epicgamerswag-k3l 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    remember when nintendo had the seal of quality?

  • @DarkFalz777
    @DarkFalz777 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I howled with laughter when you said "I would challenge Blizzard to buck the trend of automated support systems". You have a better chance of being struck by lightning twice on your way to cash in a $300 million dollar powerball ticket than Blizzard ever doing anything other than the bare minimum unless it involves other avenues of wringing another buck out of this broken husk of a game.

  • @glitchyone2531
    @glitchyone2531 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I remember I use to travel all over twitch and TH-cam when I first got the game, go to arenas and play with them, until I met someone that were streaming the game, started to get active in the discord before i joined another streamer who's really competitive. a few months or a year has pass and someone decided to invite his irl friend to the server (way before he became racist and transphobic), first few weeks were good, until he decided to be problematic for the server owner, and made a server dedicated to his trolling, I joined their sever to do the same thing, and I got banned for it, in witch it almost made me the worst version of myself cause that person is so narcissist about his wins I really get soo pissed off about it, and I almost turn in LowTeirGod because of him. I am really Glad that we are no longer friends cause if I enter into my local tourney and I see him after it, I would've jumped him soo hard I started to imaging real life smash bros and make him taste his own medicine. again this is my experience with the people, i had some rare positives and common negatives experiences, and let me just say. the smash bros community is very swampy mindset, and they really needed to change for the betterment for the francize as a whole but again, the smash community is sometimes soo far up their own arse, the battle for nepotism will always got for the worst of it. Edit: This issn't about melee. This is about ultimate fyi

  • @VeggiesOutFront
    @VeggiesOutFront วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would jave never thought of asling a GM for help on a quest

  • @ActionableFreedom
    @ActionableFreedom วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its a bit sad, I played Blizz games for ages (2 decades?), never wow but D2, Sc2, Hots, Hearthstone etc. Never got banned over chat or anything, just a silence once or twice. I guess any serious fights of mine fell into mutual combat the few times they happened. They moved to a AI/# based automated system for Heroes of the Storm. Caught 2 bans within 30 days, next one was account deletion on hots. Heard from others people recycled accounts like socks, some being on their 4-5-6th hots account, I refused to play that "game" and refused to change my interactons that worked for 20 y so i ended up deleting my entire blizz acc. This at a time that blizz had its own internal drama about a toxic environment (as you experienced yourself @ your manager) and actual sexual abuse. The hypocrisy... But GMs seemed fine up to that point to me.

  • @vitannah
    @vitannah วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ever since South Park's "Human Centipad" episode I feel compelled to read these things I'm signing or agreeing to. I have tried to skim them and they are long and written in the legal jargon that compels people to fall asleep.

    • @NotYourFriend-YT
      @NotYourFriend-YT วันที่ผ่านมา

      Such a great (and totally distressing) episode, haha. Good on you for reading them Vitannah! Have you ever found anything wild or interesting in them?

  • @vitannah
    @vitannah วันที่ผ่านมา

    I rarely in my 20ish years of WoW game play needed to contact the GM. I did have a compromised account and it was resolved swiftly and satisfactorily. That being said, I recently during the WoW ReMix had to contact the gm/submit a ticket and never received a resolution or even an answer to my transmog item/achievement question. It was like the AI didn't know how to understand what I was asking and just handed me a nonsense answer even after resubmitting. Hello, can I talk to a real person please!! frustrating. I honestly , though, can't imagine being a GM "back in the day". I used to think it'd be so cool to work for Blizzard, but both myself and my daughter (who is also into computers and gaming) have decided it would not be so cool. Thanks for the interesting video!! It's neat to get insight into such a job.

  • @SwordQuake2
    @SwordQuake2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fuck corporations! KPIs are abuse.

  • @AudioElf
    @AudioElf 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who is close friends with people who were friends with the devs, he's right about pay descrepencies. The execs made sacks of cash and the workers made bullshit. Capitalism, baby.

  • @jackjazzhands2357
    @jackjazzhands2357 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That Quest Reward stuff was a big killer for Roleplay reasons. Specificly I mean, after they changed it so you only get your armor-class. There was an item in Nagrand, it was cloth but im a warrior. Yes I got it back then, but nobody else could get it on everything thats not cloth. It was some horns like from that one warlock set maybe. Yeah I was edgy. (still am, also horny hah) Im not playing anymore since.. that was before shadowlands.. i come back when they bring in Human Demonhunter.

  • @TheHystericalDuck
    @TheHystericalDuck 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what video did he mention that he played an undead rogue?

  • @nikushim6665
    @nikushim6665 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @15:32 i think all of them just speak Hindi now and they certainly don't enforce #### as seem by the army of bots running around.

  • @Songforyall
    @Songforyall 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    19:00 Had them call police on me and had a wellness check done so I can confirm this one lol I was 15 at the time... they asked for my dad because the account was in his name for the billing it was 3am when they came and woke him up lol oopsie.

  • @asdasd-lf4xh
    @asdasd-lf4xh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My brother used to be a top game exploiter. I know that sounds silly but regardless he found an exploit to get into Cata Hyjal before the expansion was even released. Him and me used this exploit to sell greens that were much higher ilv from the next expansion in wrath. I mention this story because a GM actually watched us do it then ported us to org where he basically sat us down and said "tell us how you did it and we wont ban you". Was a pretty interesting experience and my favorite exploit that he/we ever found. I only tell this story cause around the 22:00 minute mark you say something like "if someone was clearly cheating theyd always just be booted off and then an email conversation". While I agree this was most usually the case; it definitely wasn't always.

  • @TheWolfofone
    @TheWolfofone 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm also not consecutively mentally stable. I have mental health issues. & I've been dealing with intense sinusitus caused by mold caused by a leak. & I was kinda put down by a ER doctor when I was in pain to such an extent I was actually thinking about ending myself. I finally called the hospital & spoke to some one. & it helped a lot. They gave me some recommendations to help with my pain. & it helped with my mental stress.

  • @TheWolfofone
    @TheWolfofone 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also recently had an elitist dps again recently who was like tank get agro. Started being rude. & was like Get good noob. So I was like F you & left the dungeon. They were like reported. I then reported them for it.

  • @TheWolfofone
    @TheWolfofone 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also ended up helping my mom when someone haked her account. she was just going to bed after getting off. Her account was logged into. So I called her cause she didn't respond which isn't in character. After we figured out what happened. I started falowing them through orgrimar well cussing the guy out. They freaked out so bad. They unfriended me on mom's account. & kept running from me. Well mom was talking to customer services.

  • @TheWolfofone
    @TheWolfofone 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't have that issue with my calls. plus I answer all scammer calls as something lewd or offensive towards Arab or Indian nationals. with Indians it's anything pertaining to cows. so yeah.

  • @seaththethicboi6266
    @seaththethicboi6266 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Durring BFA I was farming illidan for the warglaives. After about 6 months I had one of them, Then, I saw fucking both of em drop, at once, went to take a screenshot And corpse became unlootable and nothing in my bags 🥲 Spoke with a GM and he confirmed nothing dropped off the boss and they’re looking into the issue. Never got that second glaive

  • @RWxAshley
    @RWxAshley 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    25:00 There is also the potential security risk of allowing GM accounts to log into the regular client. I know PoE2 just had this happen very recently where an admin account was compromised and they did a lot of damage to player accounts and a single bug caused logs to not be generated properly. (They went into better detail with the GhazzyTV interview very recently) I can't imagine what could have happened if any GM account password leaked, and someone took advantage of that at home. Locking them down to internal clients was the right choice for that too.

    • @NotYourFriend-YT
      @NotYourFriend-YT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's a great point RWxAshley; likewise, I hadn't heard about that situation that happened in PoE2. I bet it was a full on nightmare for all involved. I have to imagine security risks were a huge part of the decision to prevent WoW GM accounts from logging in to regular clients!

  • @walmartskills
    @walmartskills 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds to me like that blizzard manager who chewed you out lost some of his gold selling accounts

  • @nopenope4391
    @nopenope4391 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I once had a GM whisper me a few hours after a ticket was resolved thanking me again for not getting angry and for being polite, he said he wished that more players had the same attitude. The ticket was over blizzard charging me twice for subscription or something, was definitely something that required a refund. I felt bad for him

  • @ym5891
    @ym5891 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blizzard is woke af and we all know that 'racism' will only be acted against if it's not against white people. Because you can be anti-white all you want in Blizzard games.

  • @Brakerofwind
    @Brakerofwind 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Back in vanilla i asked a gm what they thought of ganking and if it was fair. They replied with something like, " all is fair in the name of war."

  • @GoodMenstruationAttitude
    @GoodMenstruationAttitude 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a-you, a-Mario

  • @groweachday155
    @groweachday155 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't run into any issues with buying gold in the early days, but I will note that I did get a two week suspension for buying gold during Season of Mastery a few years back to get my epic mount faster as a first warning (they even took the mount away lol). I never bought gold again as I knew there was real risk now of losing access to my account and all my characters. I did hear about "ban waves" happening since then on different versions of the game so hopefully it's better? Any ways, thanks for sharing your blizzard job experience, sorry it ended so badly.

  • @CripticX
    @CripticX 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    we had a stupid quild name for our alts that we made as a joke and we all woke up the next day in the guild "insert name here" or something generic like that lol we laughed so hard but we deserved it.

  • @Reaper82xx
    @Reaper82xx 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    would love to have a GM right now started playing wow a week ago and im so lost lol

  • @alexmute4546
    @alexmute4546 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    39:14 fuck that "boss" guy. He is a part of the problem about goldfarmers. EPL Curses on this dude.

  • @lilibug.
    @lilibug. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm still convinced the GMs are all bots- they never fix anything. Last time I came back to Wow after a few years and made a new boost character. Blizzard put it on a realm that wasn't the one my guild was on. I put in ticket and they said they couldn't fix it. However if I paid them money they could. WTF???? Refuse to be extorted!!!!!

  • @mattmmilli8287
    @mattmmilli8287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got away with a visit to GM island 😎 suckas He’s not wrong though. We got spooked and dipped within minutes 😂😂

  • @DewyStudios
    @DewyStudios 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wasnt watching, just listening and I was totally convinced that people were sending "zug zug" to GMs

  • @TailsIsC0ool
    @TailsIsC0ool 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have to make this a dance trend!

  • @blueribbongaming9541
    @blueribbongaming9541 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still sell gold to those people

  • @xDrummerBoy
    @xDrummerBoy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Today, bots report players in Battleground, when their names are mentioned in chat. Lost 2 WoW accounts in WotLK Classic, from auto bans over many reports made by bots. The bots are still around till this day. Says alot of Blizzard today, than it used to. Been playing since the beginning of Vanilla. After loosing my 2nd account, I no longer care about their rules. They lost so many real players, duo to these auto bans. And they wouldn’t restore the accounts.

  • @etansivad
    @etansivad 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This has been such a fun retrospective. Even WoW aside, it's just fun to hear how different IT shops handle thing. I have one question, did GMs ever play on like a custom server with bizarre rules? What I mean is, could you setup a realm where everything was 500% exp and moon gravity? Just for shits and giggles.

    • @NotYourFriend-YT
      @NotYourFriend-YT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the kind message etansivad! Likewise, I *wish* we had a custom server like the one you described-it would've been a lot of fun! 😂 Sadly, the only one we ever got was for training purposes, and it was taken offline once the orientation was over. 10/10 would have been a blast!

  • @MinecraftMartin
    @MinecraftMartin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad Blizzard takes suicidal ideation so seriously, even if it's legally required. The fact that GM leads / managers join the GM to address those together is fantastic. Have had to call 911 on my wife one day where it seriously seemed like she took the car to go drive into a lake. Had to work with suicidal people in the military as well. Extremely scary and mentally ... taxing? ... to really try to respond to those. So much that those encounters are just burned into your memory. Very tramautic, even if you're not the one who is suicidal.

  • @MinecraftMartin
    @MinecraftMartin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Being a game master sounds like being a teller at a bank. You are just there to assist people, escalate serious issues, don't approach / become friends with your customers off hours. Honestly more fun than it sounds, but can be exhausting Did you work in a cubicle or was it more open office?

    • @MinecraftMartin
      @MinecraftMartin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also, were there good snacks? Cafeteria? Expensive or did they sell snacks / coffee / lunch at a generous price? And how was the coffee?

  • @KGBuller-d8g
    @KGBuller-d8g 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By and large, if you turn a hobby into a job, you’ll end up hating that hobby.

  • @wizawhat
    @wizawhat 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That manager was so wrong about you. I have barely ever played WoW and I just found your channel through the Nintendo series, but this video was equal parts entertaining as it was incredibly informative. Thank you so much for sharing your experience - I enjoyed every bit of it.

  • @tabbyplays930
    @tabbyplays930 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Companies should implement more human interaction versus AI, but they won't. Also, good on you for doing what WAS needed for the health of the game before you quit.

  • @3v068
    @3v068 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Note to people who want to make nintendo mods. Keep it on the DL from the public, get together with trusted modders and programmers and spread the project far and wide between developers, use P2P to keep up to date with the builds. Then, when you are actually done, ready to release it, then you release it on multiple websites, especially ones who dont deal with japanese and american law, there are tons of websites that will keep these files up. If you DONT SAY A DAMN WORD, and THEN release it when its done, and you release it with such a wide net, you are GUARUNTEEING its success to spread to as many people as possible. The reason why some fan games get lost forever is because there are only a handful of websites that have it and once they're gone, people typically don't repost them anywhere. You have to make it hit with such a bang that nintendo has to use too many resources than they actually have to fight it.