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Thank you, Seth. I really appreciate the content and your approach. It’s going to be really helpful. Blessings from Germany

Thanks a lot! This was really helpful! 😊 I am looking forward to my next conversation with JWs, in order to talk about Jesus' resurrection.

A cross because hecwas crucified obviously

Can I ask a question please. Do you hate Jehovah's witnesses?

Jws. says that it can't be a cross cause is pagan so it must be a stake cause is not pagan lol😂

Romans used cross for crucifixion before romans hundreds of years i think it was siriah that used poles

Excellent presentation Seth and a valuable aid in helping us to share the truth of God’s Word with the JW’s. Thank you for all your hard work and research. May The Lord continue to bless your efforts!

Part 1. Some Trinitarian scholars allow their theology to over-ride sound grammatical sense, such as Wallace in his NT Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics and try, and by what can only be described as grammatical sleight of hand arguments, to seperate the main verb from its complement. But where then is the subject or main clause for πρὶν ᾿Αβραὰμ γενέσθαι? To seperate ἐγὼ εἰμί from its complement is to totally distort the part the expression plays in the whole sentence. If ἐγὼ εἰμί is a separate part, there would be no subject or main verb to go with 'before Abraham came to be'. Separating ἐγὼ εἰμί off as if it were meant to be independent is an interpretive sleight-of-hand argument, and as said, totally distorts the part the phrase plays in the whole sentence. It is an attempt to exclude John 8.58 as a place where we see an example of a durative present or a PPA, that is, a 'present of past action', or an 'extension of past present', as this type of contruct is called. The reason why some ardent Trinitarians do this is because they want to continue to link what we read in their ungrammatical translatons of John 8.58 with certain sayings YHWH said of himself in the OT LXX. So their attempt to exclude what is a definite durative present or a PPA in John 8.58 is a theologically driven one.

I am not a JW, but I know, from reading the Bible numerous times, that GOD is Jesus Father, that, while Jesus was in the cross, he prayed to GOD, his Father in heaven. I don't believe he was praying to himself. I believe Jesus & GOD are one in unity, beliefs and thoughts, yet two separare beings. Read & understand, people.

JWs believe what the Bible teaches and the *Bibles definitions* are. Yes JWs DO believe in the resurrection of Jesus. First of all if you want to critique JWs do so with our modern literature not publications from nearly 70 years ago and longer. John 2 posses no challenge for us. It is simple and clear when ALL of the Bible is taken in context not one item on it's own Yes JWs do believe in the Biblical definition of deity so we understand the deity of Jesus. The Biblical definition is different to trinitarian definition. NO where does the Bible teach the immortality of the soul. The soul IS the body (Genesis 2:7) all animals ARE souls (Gen 1:21; 2:19) Every breathing thing is a soul (Genesis 9:10'12) "I will raise it up." Jesus could speak of doing so in a prophetic sense. Because of the his faithful life course and dyeing without sin he could prophetically say that he, himself had the authority to be resurrected. The wording of what is recorded after his resurrection by the inspired writers, shows that he did not raise himself. These inspired witters all use language that shows that someone else raised Jesus. No one records that Jesus raised himself as they would have if that had happened. Jesus did not literally and psychically raise himself from the dead. The father (who alone is God) raised Jesus. Now when the accounts of people seeing Jesus after his resurrection are read *_CARE FULLY,_* one soon learns that Jesus appeared in different bodies. That is becase he was raised as a life givng spirit (1 Cor 15:45; 1 Tim 3:16) A body of flesh needs blood. Flesh can not be sustauned without it. (Leviticus 17:11) . . .For the life of the flesh is in the blood,. . . Jesus perfectly represents Adam and what Adam had lost. For the ransom sacrifices to be of value, a perfect MAN had to die to balance the scales of justice because ALL of Gods ways are just

If Jesus is not risen the we are still in our sins and we are false witnesses. 1 Corinthians 15. Read the whole chapter.

Thank you so much!!

Blessed are all those LED by the Spirit which RESIDES WITHIN US and teaches reminds guides US and EACHOTHER to LOVE our spiritual brothers and sisters but above and first LOVE is GOD the Father the Son and Holy Spirit. We all want to testfy to ALL of our God given FAMILY FAITH for evermore.

Excellent presented spiritual enlightenment for those seeking the way the truth and life in Jesus Christ.Amen.

You are wrong....the Bible says flesh and blood can not enter in heaven...his body wS destroyed ,and when he showed himself to Mary in the garden after his resurrection , how do we know this? Mary didn't recognize Jesus , thought he wS a Gardner " where have you laid him "she asked. .he then told her he was the lord.

❤ well done

A masterpiece, as always! Stay Blessed, namesake - Seth!

Dear Seth this person Universal Man just deleted approx 40 comments made by him and many others. How is this possible ? All comments have been deleted. Can you please advise how this person has taken control of comments on your channel.

DISCLAIMER: This post was first made with the error that Seth did not deal with the updated JW position. Because the video unfairly dealt with that position in literally the last 3 minutes which I did not watch on the first posting, I assumed that it did not treat with it at all. Since I have publicly retracted those statements, and that thread became cluttered with persons dealing with a fringe element and not commenting on John 2 and Luke 24, I have decided to delete the errant earlier post . DISCLAIMER: I'm removing the words 'deceptive' from my view of the video. While I still hold that it was unfair to wait until the last 3 minutes for Seth to treat with the JW position, I do not have sufficient evidence to assert that he did so out of malicious intent. Seth's first 'proof' text at John 2 states Jesus himself will raise up the 'temple', i.e. his body. Yet Seth concedes at the 5:50 timestamp that "the father also has a hand in raising Jesus up" even though the text clearly states Jesus said "I". Seth even circles this "I" yet the father has a hand, effectively disqualifying his own proof text. Essentially this text proves nothing as it is not to be taken literally. In Seth's second proof text at Luke 24 the disciples believe they are seeing a spirit. Why? Not because they are seeing a ghost Seth. They are seeing a physical man but they know Jesus has died so to them this must be a spirit come back to life. At this point Seth COMPLETELY SHIFTS THE GOALPOST. The real question is not whether Jesus was resurrected bodily- he was. The real question is whether JESUS RETURNED TO HEAVEN AS A MAN. After all, even the angels in the time of Noah materialised physical bodies but when the flood came returned to heaven with heavenly bodies. I will deal with this question in a different post for the sake of brevity.

The answer to the question of the title of the video is... Yes I'm listening now to video now.

As no one ever reported seeing Jesus during his time. He is only spiritual not material. A grand mythic being.

I find the account of Lazarus in John 11 explains it best. Lazarus was raised and walked out of the very tomb he was laid in; wearing the very wrappings he had been clothed in. Jesus told the people to unwrap him. Why would this account be explained this way if Jesus resurrection was to be as a spirit person? Jesus was showing them that he could resurrect people back to their original selves having been healed. It was a miracle he was using to show the people he truly was the Son of God. He proved this to his disciples when he himself walked out of the tomb in which he was laid. Later being transformed into a spiritual body when he rose to heaven. We know this can happen because 1 Thes 4:17 describes people, who are living, being caught away in the clouds to meet the Lord. God is capable of anything and everything! Again I quote John 20:29 “Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe.”

Or maybe it was we literary!

You know you are striking a nerve when you not only bring out the normal JW trolls, but you even attract a few who don't claim to be JW, but will argue against you anyway, just because the truth hurts them.

Where can you see a normal person roaming around with a fresh gaping wound on his side?

Good on you, universalman. Seth’s use of an antiquated document “Studies in the Scriptures” without any caveats is not cricket, as the English say. He does not even explain properly what happened to Jesus’ body. Did he go to heaven with it, or did he leave it on the Earth. And, pray tell, what happened to Moses’ body when he died? And his explanation as to why Jesus was not recognised when he returned from the dead is unconvincing. For example, did Mary Magdalene not recognise Jesus’ voice? Oh yes, it was probably TOO DARK for her to recognise his voice. Ha! These explanations are so weak, and I am really surprised how people who comment on his video seem to have very scant knowledge of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ beliefs. Of course, Jehovah’s Witnesses are an easy target, because all their beliefs are clearly set out in searchable publications that are readily available online, whereas it would be quite impossible to find a coherent belief among Protestant churches, such is the total confusion that reigns among them. Seth is a very nice guy, and I am sincerely convinced that he is well-meaning, but he fails to convince me in this case, especially when he claims that the VERY widely used expression “raised IN the spirit“ (1 Peter 3:18) is NOT the majority translation of that expression, but that in his church they use the rarely used expression “raised BY the spirit”, which he doesn’t even bother to explain.. I am quite surprised at the poor quality of this exegesis. And Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be experts at exegesis. The only claim they can make is that they preach the basic gospel message, which is the kingdom of God. Jehovah’s Witnesses preach a lot, so they don’t have the time to engage in exegetical “inutiae”, as one pundit commented, and that is not by any means their speciality. Generally speaking, they certainly don’t have the time to study God’s word in a cozy library all day, like Bart Erman. And I would go so far as to suggest that if so-called Christians are not prepared to go out joyfully in inclement weather and sacrifice their time, energy and money to preach the gospel like Jesus did and talk about the kingdom of God like Jehovah’s Witnesses do, in other words to love people to the point that it hurts, they should think twice before they criticise Jehovah’s Witnesses about their particular exegesis. Yes, everyone can see that Jehovah’s Witnesses do what they do out of love, and not to get brownie points. If a church that calls itself Christian is not prepared to preach the good news, using the holy spirit, then why would God reward it with a correct understanding of the word of God?

Wonderful work and Channel Seth. Thank you.

Jesus was beaten so bad his face was deformed.

Beautiful video thanks Seth , can I get your email I’m one of JWs and was baptized recently and I have more questions. Thank you again 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

Excellent video brother! God bless you and this effort, please also keep taking into account the potential viewership of Witnesses and be careful about their biases and how they are told that Christians are controlled by Satan. Let us show them true love ❤✝

JWs believe Jesus became a spirit leaving his human body and Jehovah took it and hide it....

Awesome video!!❤

Greatt work brother! Question, have you studied apologists such as Cliff & Stuart Knecktle, Frank Turek, or William Lane Craig? Small details and evidence you use are similar to some that they use. If so thats super cool bc I watch them all the time! God Bless!

Thank you, Seth. I am glad for this series. It has been beneficial and would help many too. I am Bro Chima, a Nigerian, but resident in the UK. Some years ago, in 2007 to be precise I was somewhere waiting on the Lord, for baptism in the Holy Ghost. It was accompanied by fasting and prayer. On the 12th of a certain month, I had this glorious experience. That blessed morning, I woke up with this electric spasm of joy overflowing my heart. I wondered while jerked up from my sleep: Is this it? Oh is this it? It was a beautiful morning. On the 14th of that month, while continuing my fasting and prayer, my eyes were opened and I saw three male-like figures all dressed in black swiftly jump into my room. Simultaneously, I had a voice that firmly said: Collect that Bible from him. All hell broke loose. I entered into this tormenting darkness. I could read several chapters of the Bible with joy in one day. But afterwards, it took me several hours to read a single chapter (I recall Genesis chapter 1), with fiery sweat all over my body. I had gone out as a "missionary", trusting God to use me to bring a mighty revival to a local community popular for witchcraft. But now, I started doubting the Bible. Oh, it was hellish. I was fiery with preaching and could kneel for hours in sweet communion with the Lord. But things changed. Preaching looked like Pharoah's chariot in the Red Sea. I lack words to describe that hellish encounter. But, one thing was central: These spirits were well versed in the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses doctrines. They were knowledgeable and could literarily teach and give the same understanding a witness would give for what they teach. So one of those days, I said come on, you said the Holy Ghost is an impersonal force, but you are not an impersonal being, and you are supposed to be the Holy Ghost. That was how their hold started cracking gradually. You see, the denial of the death of Christ on the cross, for instance, was instigated by these spirits. They hate the sight of the cross or the mention of it. It was a battle with a legion of hell and you could see everything that makes for their defeat by the gospel, craftily denied by the Jehohah's Witnesses Org. They hate their eternal fate in hell and could disdain one for believing that is their eternal destiny. And for Jesus, the man they claimed died forever? That is their wish and that is what they teach these captives of theirs. Of the present legion of spirits released from hell in this age, the spirit ( a strong man indeed) of the Watch Tower Society would play a critical role in overthrowing the faith of many and their subsequent destruction in hell. Beyond these videos, believers must learn to bind those forces and limit their operations here, on earth. With prayers, their progress can be impeded, and the truth of the gospel given liberty to reach the souls of many. And for you, a JWORG member, with all the earnestness of soul, by the mercy of Jesus, your God, who you have been taught to hate, seek the truth, and the Lord will come to your salvation. I have been since then an intercessor. Meeting these demons is not easy, but God will see us through.

There is a perfect explanation of why the JW's believe Jesus was spiritually resurrected... All you have to do is look back at Charles Russell's books... If I'm not mistaken I believe the plan of ages and also the finished mystery had embroidered on the front of the book the winged disc Sun God... Which was a symbol of Osiris... In fact there are old pictures of his assembly Halls that had that symbol above the stage... Charles taze Russell was enthralled in the Egyptian pyramids and the Egyptian culture... If you look up Osiris he was chopped up in 14 pieces and his wife isis found 13 pieces and put them back together so therefore he was not physically resurrected but instead spiritually resurrected to the spirit realm... Charles Russell was pagan at heart and he implemented teachings from those pagan religions...

Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in a resurrection, they believe in a re-creation. Therefore, on THIS doctrine, the JWs are still dead in their sins. Luke's account in chapter 24 squashes all that nonsense, as you covered this in your video.

Great video!!

Brilliant video

Not first 😢

You have a decent understanding of jehovah's witnesses, as someone studying with jehovah's witnesses, how do you know so much about them? Is it from there website or talking with them?

You are certainly welcome to believe and profess whatever you want to believe, there are plenty of differing beliefs in the world today based on the Bible. But to glean this from the historically decidedly Catholic Trinitarian book is just plain silly… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century and ONLY the 27 books, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 4th century, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself? Peace!!!

Hey brother, I hope you are well. I'd like to share another treasure from the bible. Concerning this topic of devastation, there are a few observations I have. The first thing to address is the leadership of this group. Yes, they have failed many times, as sinful men do. However, I cannot escape the level of shame I feel for them as they indeed act as though they could actually fulfill prophecy. As far as the scriptures say, only one person can fulfil prophecy. They have indeed misinterpreted Matthew 24:45 (from their incorrection) “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?" We see that they have created a distinct class of people from this text. To no surprise they have superimposed themselves in this position. Would it not be a wonder if Jesus himself would set this straight... my dear brother in the faith let us marvel once more at the truth of the matter. John 15:15 "I no longer call you slaves, because a slave does not know what his master does. But I have called you friends, because I have made known to you all the things I have heard from my Father." "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." Amen.

Short answer. Nope.

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. I work the day shift. (Both are not 24 hours) Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days, The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.

Only for the Jews

Like many of restorationist or protestantism movements JWs contrast themselves with the Catholic Church as the direct opposite to the truth. Try to see that topic from their view. Reading the New Testament start to end, is there any mention 1st century christians used cross. No. So it is not important if Jesus died on cross, stake, X, T or anything else. The gospel is about Jesus sacrificed his life not on what shape of wood Jesus died. You are right it matters for JWs as an organisation, but I can tell you, that the new generations more or less do not care. The millennials or younger will tell: it might be a cross, yet even it was a cross does it make a reason to put it on my neck, our buildings, inner home walls and bow in front of it? They are right in that view. Also, I bet catholics would be as crazy about the cross as well as the older JWs generations. So I am telling you if you as a non-catholic christian face a younger JW generation, you will just loose time by rising cross topic in order to wake them up from a cult indoctrination. But well done to reveal the misinterpretations, miscitations and lying about the sources of authority. JWs do it notoriously everywhere. But believe me, the rank and file members do not know about it. Use this argument a lot, but pick a better topic.

Do you agree that Paul made "ministerial servants" (Deaconos) in congregations both from man and woman? Rom 16:1 Can you show me from your bible why a female is forbidden to be a "ministerial servant" in JWorg church?

I like that you have baptisms in your church and that ou encourage others even kids to preach the gospel (good news). Bible tells about thousands of baptised. and describes the process fro hearing the good news for 1st time up to baptism of the person. Could you please show me in your bible: - that in order to get baptised the person has to get a title "unbaptised publisher" 1st? - that in order to get the "UP" title person has to study your publications, and pass an exam with 2 elders? - that after a person get the "UP" status, the person has to spend preaching door to door sever months, each month, and than can ask to be baptised? - that a PB after months of preaching needs to pass an exam with elders to be approved to get baptised? - that a christian baptism means to "to devote yourself to Jehovah"? - that a true christian baptism means to be baptised by Jehovahs Witnesses only? ...

1st, let me thank you for your ending words, labelling JWs as victims trapped in a cult. Most of rank & file JWs (not the hierarchy) are very kind people. Even your motivations to help them are a bit different than me (I am agnostic) I admire your zeal to help them get free. But please, accept advice from the exJW community. I understand that most of the christians and especially evangelicals believe that the best way to wake up a cultist it to preach the true gospel. And to argument about Trinity, Divinity of Jesus etc... you know what I mean. Please do not. Why? 1st, It is like stealing their most precious friend . Most of them really have a relationship with a god called Jehovah. Like you do with Trinity/Jesus. If an atheist would try to steal that idea from you would you listen to it? You need to build and mutual foundation. Accept even their bible for the start. Even they truly believe ALL of their teachings is based on their bible, it is not. There is a ton of topics to start with. Ask question they cannot answer using even their bible. few examples: 1. Can we agree that all our teachings have be based on bible? Yes Can we agree that adding teachings to bible is in contrary to what Jesus warned us? Yes. I understand that you try to obey Acts 15:29 and avoid blood transfusion. And I remember from your web site, that blood should be spilled back into ground as bible says. That bad include 4 major blood parts Red blood cells, White cells, Plasma and Blood pellets. But I also know that for several years you are allowed to accept blood fractions like hemoglobin (fraction of red cells.) - Can you show me in your bible where is says that blood fractions are Ok, but blood parts are forbidden? - If I take 1litre of a blood, it contains approx 0,4litre of hemoglobin, which is a fraction and approx 1centiliter of plasma. Can you should me from the bible, that Jehova or Jesus is OK with accepting 0,4 litre of haemoglobin (40% of blood) but will kill us in armagedon for accepting 1% of blood in a form of plasma? - If a JW, a Christian is free to accept a blood fraction, a fraction that comes from donated blood, is a christian allowed to donate blood to save others with his blood fractions? Where bible says so? or. 2. I understand that JWs tries to avoid pagan traditions like Birtdays, the reasons are: Pagan origin, too much unhealthy - worship like attention to one person, no mentioning christians would celebrated. OK, Imagine this scenario I know happened. A family has twins. On the day of the birthday of the twins they are not allowed to celebrate it. No party, no gifts, no cake, no family and friends invited etc. Very Next day, the family has a party with family and friends, big cake, gifts, a lot of attention to two people. It was a wedding aniversary of their parents. Both occasions have pagan origins, Both have a lot attention to two people. And non of them bible recalled to be celebrated by Christians in 1st century. Please show me in your bible why the celebration of two kids is a disfeloshipping offence and a death in armagedon. The celebration of their parents is perfectly fine. There are tons of such though provoking questions. Insist on the answer, humbly ask them to get the answer prepared and return. it will devastate them. They have noisier ever think about it. they will be in shock it is not in bible and that they do not have an answer.

As an exJW born in and being 40ys locked there I have to bow to your research. Most of never JWs are not any close to you knowledge about this cult. When you listed the points how to be a loyal JW, I would argue the list could much longer, but there are two major ones: 1. Always obey all and any commands for the Governing body. 2. Never ever question any GB's teaching, compare with bible, never share your doubts with anyone, even your family, friends or congregation. These two foundation blocks are all of it. Both are also ones of major definitions of a cult. If you breach any of those two, your are gone, and everyone including your closest family members have to shun you until death.