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The Rockies still exist so they won’t finish in last. But 4th is likely

I would love Torkelson. That would be a nice upside play.

🎯 it’s going to be a process. Hopefully we have a few more young players establish themselves as core guys this season.

That’s kind if why I’d lean he has a good chance of making the team.

Not sure how you can hang any of what came before this offseason on Posey and hold that against him. As I said in the video on this specifically, while it’s been too long and they *shouldn’t* be in this spot, they are in this spot. And that’s mostly to do with the clown show that ran the team previously. So they are doing what’s best for the team going forward, not just trying to desperately compete in 2025 and find themselves worse off in 3 years.

You do realize they changed POBO… you gotta give posey time - think about yourself getting used to a new job and turning a struggling business around… in posey we trust… 2026 is gonna be fun again

I definitely don’t think this team is going to be horrible. I still personally have them at about 82-83 wins. But I do think a lot has to go right for them to make the playoffs in 2025. But they can still get a lot out of this season and be well positioned to make a huge jump in 2026.

I think this is an 80-82 win team this year, but that's it.

@ Totally agree.

Yeah it all depends on what they follow up with next offseason. Really that will either justify the contempt Giants fans had for this offseason or justify the FO’s actions. Just not sure we’ll have an accurate picture on this offseason until then.

@ I agree. This is the chance that Matos, Birdsong, Luciano, ect have been waiting for. Gonna be a big leaguer or gonna go to work?

We've been saying this for years, 'Let's see what they do NEXT off-season'. It's a bunch of bs.

@@davelandsman4768 I definitely didn’t say this for years. After 2021 and 2022 I was absolutely livid about their overall inactivity and not going in when they could have. Last offseason they were very active, maybe not in the best way, and it didn’t work out. Now it’s a new regime, with a new vision. It would be completely unfair to hold anything prior to this offseason against them. So yes, they deserve the luxury of seeing how they follow up this offseason before the fanbase crucifies them.

I kind of feel that the it’s ownership who really controls the signings because the offseason between Posey and Farhan haven’t been drastically different (getting maybe 1-2 good players and some mediocre ones) with no star signings. Just my opinion

Wow it’s almost like that’s not at all true for what we’ve been saying. But go off. God forbid we’re honest about where the team currently stands.

It makes sense if the goal is to find out which young pitchers are guys to build around in the pen, regardless of handedness. Reality is this team isn’t going to be a playoff team in 2025 unless a mountain of things go right. So the concern should be more on finding good players than building a “complete roster”. They have a ton of young arms that could step up with Rodríguez, Sanchez, McDonald, Ragsdale, Winn (in a pen role) just to name a few. Figure out the keepers there and then either trade for a LH at the deadline if you’re actually competing or sign someone next offseason.

Feels like their best hope is a couple young players establish themselves as good players in 2025, Bryce is ready before opening day 2026 and they either sign or trade for a star next offseason.

Yeah he’s one I could see any number of scenarios. Pretty much entirely depends on how Matos and McCray look IMO

I think that’s a fair gut reaction to the offseason, but until we know the long term direction it’s hard to judge it too harshly one way or the other. If they’re gearing up to be way more aggressive next offseason after getting an evaluation on their young players then what they did this offseason makes way more sense.

It’s entirely possible, but I hate going that route unless they are 100% certain he’s not going to be a SP at all going forward. Otherwise it’s more important to continue building up his innings.

@@EYDShow As of now he doesn't throw enough strikes to be coming out of the bullpen.

@ there is that issue as well.

I do mention this knowing it is a long shot. But if they traded Rodgers to give young guys a shot, I wonder who they have in mind.

@ I’d be looking more at guys like McDonald, Sanchez, Ragsdale, Rodriguez and Roupp (if they don’t continue developing him as a SP).

Current state of the team is a joke, we can thank the clown show that ran the team the last 6 years along with ownership for that.

100% agree.

I was not at all a fan of Alonso personally. If they could have gotten a 3-4 year deal with no opt outs I was on board. Shorter wasn’t worth the loss in capital and longer I felt was a massive risk of having an albatross contract.

@ absolutely no big contract, Nobody was giving him that but two years at 60 I woulda been fine with. He woulda been worth every dollar , even 3 yrs. He would helped this team tremendously

I would have maybe considered 2 years, preferably 3. Problem is the deal he signed would have been awful business for the Giants. Likely scenario would have been they lose their 3rd/6th picks in 2025, lose another $1M in bonus money, retain the stiffer QO penalties for another year due to going over the tax and likely still miss the playoffs. All for Alonso to walk next offseason. I understand people like to say “well it’s not like those draft picks will be as good as Alonso” but it’s not that simple. They need to build up the farm system, not only so they produce more quality players, but so they have more assets to trade in deals for good players. And it’s really difficult to do that when you’re punting significant assets away for 1 year of a player.

@ opt out after 2. Woulda been fine

And who knows if he would have considered that. Especially with the Mets willing to give him the opt out after 1

Trending that way

Yep. And watch out for the Rockies. They are going to improve over the next few years.

Let’s bet! I got at least third

@@SkatersonBaseballI’m on your side skaters 💯

@ A better bet would be how long before Verlander hits the DL...

Unfortunately the time to trade him was 2 years ago. At this point his value is pretty minimal.

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This is true, but *most* Giants fans are located in the Bay Area so we’re just going off the assumption that they wouldn’t need to subscribe to mlb.tv. For us out of staters you’re dead on.

@@calebcasanova9670 He would become my new favorite player if he hit .300 for the giants. Every time I see the number .245 I want to throw up. I’m really hoping JH Lee hits .300 this year.

I’ve definitely said if he hits .300 in the majors they’d have to find a spot to play him. Problem is he’s unplayable in the OF so we’re having to hope he can be solid at 2B. But you’re right, if he hits MLB pitching he’ll need some kind of role.

Bryce coming soon

For short term I don’t mind it, but if Bryce is what you hope you’d be moving him extremely fast.

@ Yeah, I feel like Luciano can at least give you value over there (in Terms of having a guy who you drafted, need to see what you have, and is cheap). If he mashes, great! Hes your DH when Bryce comes up and can spell Bryce, corner outfielders, or 2b. Anything to get away from Wade/Flores.

@@oh_quaxzy5540 Not soon enough. I’m talking a possible in house upgrade over Wade/Flores for THIS year.

It matters because he actually is a really good defensive 2B and has been busting his ass there as well. We all agree that in a perfect world he’d get to play 3B, but as you pointed out Chapman has him blocked there. But he also has GG potential at 2B, so if he does extremely well it’s not like Fitz is guaranteed to hold him off like Chapman is. At the end of the day all these young guys just need to hit and they’ll find places or ABs for them.

@@EYDShow where... 3rd is locked up, so is short, 1st is locked up (they are betting everything on Eldridge) Catcher is locked up (they are betting everything on Bailey) lee has center (or at least an outfield position locked up) that leaves 2 outfield positions 2nd base and DH... DH is what you do with someone like Luciano who can't field... he hits... not Schmitt... They need hitting... Schmitt has to hit his way onto the team, gold glove 2nd base won't do it if he doesn't hit... Lee hit like .260, Ramos hit .260 we have no idea if either one can repeat that or improve... Yas is .225 .190 with RISP... Chapman is an 8th place hitter on a decent team... Adames looks a lot like Conforto and we know how that worked out... Bailey can't hit to save his life... on and on and on... the Giants can't afford another defensive specialist no matter how good he is, they need hitting...

The need to keep Schmidt, one injury at third or short and he would be needed badly.

We agree, nobody is saying play him if he isn’t hitting at all. But he’s not blocked if he plays well since he can play 2B, that’s the point. Also, Ramos and Lee hit .269 and .270. Ramos probably isn’t a high average guy, but if he hits a ton of XBH and continues to do well w/RISP that’s more of what matters. I’d bet on Lee improving that average. Lastly, comparing Adames to Conforto is wild 🤣

@@EYDShow Adames 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 combined Avg. .259 .262 .238 .217 .251 .242 HR 8 25 31 24 32 120 HR/AB .049 SO 74 156 166 165 173 734 SO/AB .304 Conforto 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 combined Avg. .322 .232 DNP .239 .237 .247 HR 9 14 DNP 15 20 58 HR/AB .039 SO 57 104 DNP 106 118 385 SO/AB .265 No, not similar at all, just 2 power guys who hit for low average and strike out a lot... Willie strikes out in 30% of his at bats... Fitz is also 30% and it's a MAJOR FUCKING PROBLEM, but Willie does its and not a problem at all... FYI Fitz had a HR/AB of .047 just a hair behind Adames, and Willie had a terrible 2024 with the glove...

He’ll likely spend time in AAA for at least a chunk of the year, thinking 2 months minimum, but at some point they absolutely will need to get a really good look at him this season.

To this point in his career, sure. But if you asked around Ramos was going into last year too. He’s all of 23 years old and development isn’t linear. How many players don’t blossom until they’re 24-26? Fans should have much more patience for him than he has been allotted. But, unfortunately, with the options situation he likely is going to have to show massive growth next season in order to have a shot at a future in SF.

Injuries definitely played a massive part. Constantly killed momentum and cost him a ton of precious developmental time. But his approach, mindset and them not moving him off SS earlier feel like the bigger current issues.

Realistically Matos and Jerar are going to be competing for major league roles, and Luciano probably has not chance to make the team out of camp. But that said, as we saw last season especially, things can change rapidly. Hope Marco just goes down to AAA and dominates and takes advantage of all the reps and forces their hand at some point.

Most of my optimism stems from the young players. If you want the pessimism just ask me about Hick, Murphy, Yaz or the Wimonte Flade Jr platoon 🤣 But also, I’ve been pretty objective as far as the overall state of the team. It’s not a playoff team, I just don’t view it as a 70 win team like some. It’s an objectively better roster than was trotted out last season. But I still see them finishing around 82-84 wins. But I don’t want to sit here and piss and moan every video either so I’m choosing to talk about more of the positive things that are out there, which happen to lie more with the young talent that is here.

@EYDShow Which young players are you optimistic about and how good do you think they are?

@ probably would take way too long for me to answer that in depth so what I’ll say are the players just on the major league roster/competing for a job and the ones I’m most bullish on. Not many young players I dislike, but these are the handful I’m highest on. Ramos - feel he can be a middle of the order bat and consistent 25-30 HR guy. Schmitt - love the overall improvements with his plate discipline I saw last season. Showed it most of the year in Sac, excluding his first call up he did in SF as well. Needs to get the BB rate up to 7-8% but I feel he can be a GG contender at either 3B or 2B and hit .270ish with 20-25 HR/year. Unfortunately his opportunity will likely come elsewhere unless Fitz falls apart. Fitz - LOVE his speed and power combo. Think he can be a 20 HR/40 SB guy. Have big concerns over his swing and miss though. Both in zone and out of zone. Don’t think what he did last season was sustainable and he’d need to improve the whiff rate drastically. Matos - wish they’d give him a vote of confidence and just play him everyday for half the year and get out of his way. Has the upside to be a .300 hitter that hits a ton of doubles (Freddy Sanchez type hitter) and be an ideal 2 hitter. Needs to make better swing decisions and go back to using the whole field again and not trying to pull everything in the air. True 70 grade hit tool. Birdsong - 3 high end pitches, 4th that’s at least playable (slider). Feel if he develops he can be a #2 Harrison - probably the one guy with “ace” potential, but does need some big tweaks to reach it. Needs to get stronger in his lower body to last deeper and hopefully pick up his velo to 94-95. Should trash his slurve and get a slider with sharper break that tunnels better off his FB. Needs the command to tighten a bit so he doesn’t throw so many non competitive pitches. Roupp - reminds me of Vogelsong. Love his sinker-curveball combination. Think he his ceiling his a #3. Miller/Rodriguez - nasty stuff, closer potential for each. Feel both can and will be late inning pen options. Obviously not every guy pans out but these are the ones I have the most confidence in becoming solid big leaguers. Guys like Luciano and McCray I really like, but not sure they hit their ceilings. Hope they do.

That’s it, World Series favorites!!

Trust me, we’ve criticized Chapman and Yaz’s K rates as well as performance w/ RISP plenty on this channel. In an ideal world they’d get Chapman down to about 6th in the lineup and Yaz off the roster.

I wouldn’t say he’s never produced, but he’s constantly had setbacks. Injuries and covid cost him valuable development time and the team pushed several promotions faster than they should have. But he dominated A ball, had a massive first 2 months in high A before injury slowed him down, and then his last 30 games in AA he hit over .300 w/ a .984 OPS. He’s gone on some truly insane tears at times, just hasn’t been able to sustain it for a variety of reasons. Hopefully the new regime can get him back on the attack in the batters box, feel that would be a great first step to unleashing his potential.

Very well might be 🤣

@@EYDShow Cruise by our show and lets rap out sometime, like what youre doing

For me he has the tools to be great. I’ll just give this regime a fair shot to fix whatever damage the prior regime did to his approach the last 2 years. Not sure they’ll have enough time but fingers crossed.

@ I hope you’re right. I agree that if he can prove his hit tool plays at major league level, they should find a spot for him, but he also needs to prove he doesn’t fold under pressure. His defense was solid for routine situations, but he seemed to freak out in pressure situations. I kind of wonder if they should stick with him at SS, but as a defensive replacement late in close AAA games, to get him used to performing in pressure situations. If he can’t handle it after like 20 or so games and keeps booting balls, then make the full time move to OF. They really screwed him at the end of 2024 with lack of at bats, so hopefully that doesn’t repeat.

@@fandyllic1975 frankly he’s not a SS. Been seeing it and saying it for about 3-4 years now. It’s just sad that they waited to move him until his options were bled out almost entirely.