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The lawsuit is just a delaying ploy to delay what will be some type of payout.

Man f*ck the PAC

Wonder what would’ve happened if Texas and Oklahoma just stayed in Big 12.

It’s battle of the fittest. B1G and Big 12 showed Pac12 no mercy & the PAC is doing the same to MW.

CFB is now all about $$$.

Loving the videos bro keep up the solid work and I appreciate the accurate information

The Pac 12 (I mean Pac 2) is still run by idiots. They have no case. They knowingly entered into a contractual agreement with the MWC that had penalties in place if the Pac 2 didn't take every MWC member. I mean, they literally helped draft that agreement. If Wazzu and Oregon St isn't careful, they will be in a conference with San Jose St, Hawaii, Wyoming, New Mexico, and whatever two schools they can find to make 8 members. Anyway, this whole PacMWC thing will fall apart before anyone signs a Grant of Rights. The Pac 2 is making promises they can't keep. There is no way that any combination of MWC schools with Wazzu and Oregon St is going to get a media rights deal worth $12 to $15 million/school. That's just delusional. Just like the Pac 12 without USC and UCLA thinking they were worth $50 million/school was delusional. This Pac 2 / MWC marriage would likely only get a streaming only deal worth less than $10 million/school. Without the top AAC brands, it's doubtful they will get more than $8 million/school. Once those MWC schools figure that out, they are going look at the AAC which at least has a media deal with ESPN through the 2031/32 academic year. Memphis, UTSA, Tulane, and USF know that a guaranteed $8 to $9 million/school through the 2031/32 academic year and having their media rights with ESPN, is better than gambling on the PacMWC. That is exactly why they rejected the PacMWC and recommitted to the AAC. Even if a lot of their games are on ESPN+, some are still getting linear network coverage for several years with the ESPN family of networks. On top of that the ESPN, Fox, WB/Discovery partnership is about to launch their standalone service which combines their collective linear networks and streaming services into one bundle. So, ESPN+ is about to be a good place to be versus Apple or whatever the PacMWC ends up on.

What will cusa and mwc call their merger?

"Pretty bold, to be certain. I mean, the PAC 12 did sign the scheduling agreement that includes the "Withdrawal fees". However, the Sherman Anti-trust act is pretty clear: Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal. This means that even if the parties agree to restrict themselves via contract, the contract itself is unenforceable. In the law it is called a "voidable" contract. There is an interesting 9th Circuit case involving the NFL, the LA Coliseum, and (of course) the Oakland Raiders. In that case, the 9th Circuit (which is the appellate circuit Oregon, California, etc. are in) noted cases which imposed exit fees, restrictions on player movement, etc. all violated anti-trust laws. The case is interesting because it says in order for the PAC 12 to be successful in this lawsuit, the PAC 12 has to prove three elements: 1. An agreement between two or more distinct persons or entities; (check) 2. Which is intended to harm or restrain competition; (check) - the Withdrawal Fees are intended to prevent schools from leaving the MWC; and 3. Which actually causes harm to competition; Based on what I know now, I think the Scheduling Agreement actually harms the PAC 12, to the tune of $55 million. The purpose of the withdrawal fee is to deter the PAC 12 from taking MWC schools, not to protect the MWC. After all, the departing MWC schools have to pay an exit fee, that is what is supposed to protect the MWC. Here is an interesting side-note: there is a defense to an anti-trust claim called the "Equal Involvement Defense". This theory says that if a plaintiff (in our case, the PAC 12) was involved in the anti-trust violation, the plaintiff cannot recover damages from the defendant. Why is this important? Because the lawsuit filed today only seeks a declaration from the court that the Scheduling Agreement's "withdrawal fee" provisions violate anti-trust laws. We are not seeking damages. Smart. It feels to me, just reading these documents for the first time over the last 20 minutes or so, that the PAC 12 signed the scheduling agreement knowing the Withdrawal Fee portion of the agreement was unenforceable. In other words, our lawyers are smarter than theirs. " BoatyMcBeaver 🟦

The circle is complete.Wazzu and OSU have become the back stabbing conference killing villains of someone else's story.

The west pac lol

They are eating the bulldogs, they are eating the rams, they are eating the broncos

This is a merger by another name. Maybe a hostile takeover

If UNLV continues to dither, do not be surprised if the Pac-12 says fine and goes after Hawaii or Nevada or both just to utterly destroy the MWC so UNLV and maybe Air Force have to join because the MWC is functionally dead, this seems real bitter and kill or be killed at this point. I still think once this phase is done the Pac-12 will go after some schools like Texas State, North Texas and Rice to get into that Texas market, central time zone TV money and just to weaken the AAC in order to get the 5th guaranteed playoff spot by default. (yes I know Texas State in Sun Belt). Do not be surprised if the CW is whispering in the Pac-12's ear saying make this move or this and its $2 million more on our proposed TV deal, right now I am reading its in the $12-$15 million dollar range per team while the MWC and AAC are in the $6-$7 million range I believe, that could though be contingent on getting into the Central time zone with some Texas teams.

The PAC 2 considered moving/merging with the MW, but realized that in order to solidify itself as the best 5th conference moving forward in this new college football landscape with NIL, playoffs, etc. they had to trim the fat and bring in the overall best G5 teams available. Once UNLV and Gonzaga join, AAC schools will be back to the negotiating table. As far as the MW acquiring exit fees and poaching penalties, it will be good for them in the short term but it won’t last long term.

Rather than potentially lose the MWC will just settle for a lower payout which is exactly what the Pac-12 wants. According to John Canzano journalist things turned real bitter about a month ago, reportedly the MWC asked for an insane amount of money for a second 2025 scheduling agreement and blocked the MWC schools from even scheduling a game here and there with Pac 12, Canzano used the word "bullied" in regards to what the Pac 12 endured from the MWC commish when they were desperate, some of what is going on now may be payback.

UNLV… time to come to the PAC! Make it official!

They were a business man doing business

"Mountain West Commissioner Gloria Nevarez was accused by Oregon State and Washington State of blocking their attempts to schedule non-conference games with her schools. Nevarez told me she was simply following long-standing conference policy. The Beavers and Cougars rolled their eyes at that" - John Canzano... WOW 👀

Congrats to UTAH STATE as I post this video they have OFFICIALLY been announced as the seventh member of the PAC-12, effective July 1, 2026.

Saw it put best by Austen Bundy at Yardbarker "A favorable ruling that strikes down the penalty clause could make it significantly easier for more conferences to actively coax schools to leave their home organizations for a new opportunity elsewhere." This could change all future moves.

MWC is still a very new conference so not much history.

For the PAC-12 UConn & Hawaii Football (State flagship Universities) + Gonzaga & St Mary's for Olympic sports makes for a nice combination.

Hope MW stays together with some combination of the 2 Montana. 2 North Dakota, and 2 South Dakota Schools... AAC/Army fan, yes on Air Force to AAC.

This notion that since the American schools said "We're not coming" means that option is done is a bit premature. People should have taken that more as "We're not coming... right now" more than anything. I still believe at least Memphis and Tulane, and likely UTSA, Rice or even USF, will be joining the PAC eventually. They just want better assurances on the money first and waiting a season or two greatly lowers their exit from the American at the same time. That scenario is far from over though.

Honestly I think UC Davis should go to the Pac12. It is a UC school, which has a great reputation and is in the Sacramento Market. The UC system is better than the Cal State system. I also think that California is what made the PAC what it was. Adding another California school would help the PAC. I think San Jose State so they can keep a presence in the Bay Area.

At this point, I kinda want the BCS system back. I’m tired of this pay-to-play bullsh*t CFP. D1 football has become all about greed and money. The more money you have, you’re in automatically. If you think about it, that’s the reason that caused all the realignment chaos in the first place. One thing I like about the BCS system was that rankings were computer generated rather than human voters who have a ton of bias.

If the PAC 12 expects to continue to be a power conference, they’re not going to do that by taking over the MW schools

Pac should add UNLV, Nevada, Wyoming to dissolve MWC and Zags and St Mary's as basketball

Pac should add UNLV, Nevada, Wyoming to dissolve MWC and Zags and St Mary's as basketball

The best programs in the West 0:57 should build a viable conference with 10/12 teams. Memphis? WTF ya’all talking about? Utah St. averages how much attendance exactly?

the PAC 12 legally signed the contract....it should be upheld. UNLV should NOT join the PAC 12. UNLV should stay in the MW and do WHATEVER is necessary to make itself attractive to the BIG 12 in about 5 yrs.

"ABSOLUTE CRAZYTOWN!!!!" NO DOUBTS 🏀 🏈

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If I’M amongst the programs left in the MWC I’m staying and celebrating the new money for the programs and add other schools if needed.

Hear this: If done right the new PAC will incorporate the 2 most football crazy regions in the country: the South and the Mountain west. Memphis and Tulane UTSA (or Texas State) and Rice Utah State and Wyoming South Florida and Southern Miss UConn and Georgia State 16

I don’t see pac-12 ever threatening the AAC. The chaos that has been unleashed in west coast football is going to reverberate for a while..until either only the pac or MW survives. As it stands now, if the MW continues even if it is takes FCS Bob down the street, the PAC will have to pay MW to stay around. I don’t see a TV deal that would challenge the AAC unless either the MW or the PAC merges. They just divided in half what the MW was? So that leaves the PAC with a huge handicap. This is not to take away the success on the field these teams have. No question the new pac on paper is a better football conference. But they have a financial Plateau. On the other hand the AAC are all growing institutions in large cities, heavy research and football that’s competitive.

Now the Pac-12 is suing the MWC over having to paying poaching penalty, which they agreed to in the terms and condition of for the schedule alliance.

Should've just merged, called it the PAC-West, and sang kumbaya. Too many power hungry people. The MWC commish has a a background in law so lets see where this goes. If anything it makes for a good late night popcorn read.

I being an East Coaster just eating popcorn to see who goes first, the MW dissolution or the ACC. *I'm a JMU alum and am anticipating to see where we go if the eastern conference gets raided by the ACC/B12. *

It sure appears the PAC would have to add UNLV, AFA, New Mexico and a throw in of Nevada (politically) to get the 9 universities needed to dissolve the MWC. Sorry Wyoming, SJS, Hawaii, who I feel for.

Of course right after I upload the Pac-12 filed a lawsuit against the MWC over the poaching penalty 🤣 "The complaint details reasons that the penalty is unlawful, including that (1) it restrains trade; (2) its only goal is to distort competition and lock in schools from leaving for a competitor; and (3) its damages are excessive and unreasonable “to the amount the MWC may be harmed from the loss of its member schools.”

It does NOT make sense to be with the other service academies in the AAC, it would make AF travel for other sports extreme and I know for fact their coach prefers joining the Pac 12. MWC can go after schools like New Mexico State, UTEP, Sam Houston, Louisiana Tech and some that want to jump up to FBS like Sacramento State.

Do not count long term Tulane, Memphis and South Florida being out of the Pac 12 sights, they wants those markets but just as important they want to eliminate the AAC as a threat for that 5th guaranteed playoff spot. Do not be surprised if Pac 12 tries to go after North Texas and Rice, besides their markets that would weaken the AAC next TV deal and thus make other AAC teams take a second look. I think they will also go after Texas State, under an hour from San Antonio and Austin and frankly a much bigger upside than say UTSA.

I wish Stanford and cal would come back and then poach smu

It honestly just makes more sense for the mountain west to merge with a pac two. If you let them take your teams, you still gotta fill that void but if you merge and become the Pac 12 with them, they’re still more money coming your way AND automatic playoff updates which you don’t get now.

The aac is better than either the mwc or pac, why would they move.

I would actually have Texas State than UTSA. There are tons of alumni in Texas from that school. All they needed was a better conference, which they got. If they move to the PAC, they would pull more ratings and attendance.

Conference formations today are out of control. Team travel cross the country.Max should be 8 per conference.

Ohio University to the PAC12