Saw it put best by Austen Bundy at Yardbarker "A favorable ruling that strikes down the penalty clause could make it significantly easier for more conferences to actively coax schools to leave their home organizations for a new opportunity elsewhere." This could change all future moves.
"Mountain West Commissioner Gloria Nevarez was accused by Oregon State and Washington State of blocking their attempts to schedule non-conference games with her schools. Nevarez told me she was simply following long-standing conference policy. The Beavers and Cougars rolled their eyes at that" - John Canzano... WOW 👀
Rather than potentially lose the MWC will just settle for a lower payout which is exactly what the Pac-12 wants. According to John Canzano journalist things turned real bitter about a month ago, reportedly the MWC asked for an insane amount of money for a second 2025 scheduling agreement and blocked the MWC schools from even scheduling a game here and there with Pac 12, Canzano used the word "bullied" in regards to what the Pac 12 endured from the MWC commish when they were desperate, some of what is going on now may be payback.
"Pretty bold, to be certain. I mean, the PAC 12 did sign the scheduling agreement that includes the "Withdrawal fees". However, the Sherman Anti-trust act is pretty clear: Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal. This means that even if the parties agree to restrict themselves via contract, the contract itself is unenforceable. In the law it is called a "voidable" contract. There is an interesting 9th Circuit case involving the NFL, the LA Coliseum, and (of course) the Oakland Raiders. In that case, the 9th Circuit (which is the appellate circuit Oregon, California, etc. are in) noted cases which imposed exit fees, restrictions on player movement, etc. all violated anti-trust laws. The case is interesting because it says in order for the PAC 12 to be successful in this lawsuit, the PAC 12 has to prove three elements: 1. An agreement between two or more distinct persons or entities; (check) 2. Which is intended to harm or restrain competition; (check) - the Withdrawal Fees are intended to prevent schools from leaving the MWC; and 3. Which actually causes harm to competition; Based on what I know now, I think the Scheduling Agreement actually harms the PAC 12, to the tune of $55 million. The purpose of the withdrawal fee is to deter the PAC 12 from taking MWC schools, not to protect the MWC. After all, the departing MWC schools have to pay an exit fee, that is what is supposed to protect the MWC. Here is an interesting side-note: there is a defense to an anti-trust claim called the "Equal Involvement Defense". This theory says that if a plaintiff (in our case, the PAC 12) was involved in the anti-trust violation, the plaintiff cannot recover damages from the defendant. Why is this important? Because the lawsuit filed today only seeks a declaration from the court that the Scheduling Agreement's "withdrawal fee" provisions violate anti-trust laws. We are not seeking damages. Smart. It feels to me, just reading these documents for the first time over the last 20 minutes or so, that the PAC 12 signed the scheduling agreement knowing the Withdrawal Fee portion of the agreement was unenforceable. In other words, our lawyers are smarter than theirs. " BoatyMcBeaver 🟦
The PAC 2 considered moving/merging with the MW, but realized that in order to solidify itself as the best 5th conference moving forward in this new college football landscape with NIL, playoffs, etc. they had to trim the fat and bring in the overall best G5 teams available. Once UNLV and Gonzaga join, AAC schools will be back to the negotiating table. As far as the MW acquiring exit fees and poaching penalties, it will be good for them in the short term but it won’t last long term.
Agree on the PAC trimming the fat they absolutely did not want the bottom of the MWC. And the merger would have worked but MWC wanted to much. As stated from news agencies, for the PAC to keep all assets they have to keep the name other wise the get nothing. With UM. UCF and other AAC schools turning down the invite to create to premiere G5 conference and the 5th best conference or higher, in all college football, was truly unfortunate. Listening to some of the fan blog and media in those areas... they wanted it to happen. Some beleve that ESPN and FOX had something to do with it all. Because it messes with there supper league. I hope they come back to the table.
@@ranger135 I do think there’s a huge possibility for the most desired AAC schools to come back to the negotiating table, especially if the PAC can negotiate down the exit and poaching fees. Also, they still have time to continue to work with TV networks, and who knows… the MW may outright dissolve if UNLV leaves.
@@DayOneRob I think they have to wait it out until the AAC schools exit fees decrease or set to expired and it will depend on how much is their media rights contracts are worth. The reason for that is it makes no sense for Memphis, Tulane, or any AAC school to move if travel costs is still too high in contrast to the conference payout.
I don't mean to sound like an a hole, but I live in El Paso, and when the crossers pivoted from latin Americans to not latin Americans, the feral cat population vanished.
Saw it put best by Austen Bundy at Yardbarker "A favorable ruling that strikes down the penalty clause could make it significantly easier for more conferences to actively coax schools to leave their home organizations for a new opportunity elsewhere." This could change all future moves.
UNLV… time to come to the PAC! Make it official!
"Mountain West Commissioner Gloria Nevarez was accused by Oregon State and Washington State of blocking their attempts to schedule non-conference games with her schools. Nevarez told me she was simply following long-standing conference policy. The Beavers and Cougars rolled their eyes at that" - John Canzano... WOW 👀
Rather than potentially lose the MWC will just settle for a lower payout which is exactly what the Pac-12 wants. According to John Canzano journalist things turned real bitter about a month ago, reportedly the MWC asked for an insane amount of money for a second 2025 scheduling agreement and blocked the MWC schools from even scheduling a game here and there with Pac 12, Canzano used the word "bullied" in regards to what the Pac 12 endured from the MWC commish when they were desperate, some of what is going on now may be payback.
"Pretty bold, to be certain. I mean, the PAC 12 did sign the scheduling agreement that includes the "Withdrawal fees".
However, the Sherman Anti-trust act is pretty clear:
Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal.
This means that even if the parties agree to restrict themselves via contract, the contract itself is unenforceable.
In the law it is called a "voidable" contract.
There is an interesting 9th Circuit case involving the NFL, the LA Coliseum, and (of course) the Oakland Raiders. In that case, the 9th Circuit (which is the appellate circuit Oregon, California, etc. are in) noted cases which imposed exit fees, restrictions on player movement, etc. all violated anti-trust laws.
The case is interesting because it says in order for the PAC 12 to be successful in this lawsuit, the PAC 12 has to prove three elements:
1. An agreement between two or more distinct persons or entities; (check)
2. Which is intended to harm or restrain competition; (check) - the Withdrawal Fees are intended to prevent schools from leaving the MWC; and
3. Which actually causes harm to competition;
Based on what I know now, I think the Scheduling Agreement actually harms the PAC 12, to the tune of $55 million. The purpose of the withdrawal fee is to deter the PAC 12 from taking MWC schools, not to protect the MWC. After all, the departing MWC schools have to pay an exit fee, that is what is supposed to protect the MWC.
Here is an interesting side-note: there is a defense to an anti-trust claim called the "Equal Involvement Defense". This theory says that if a plaintiff (in our case, the PAC 12) was involved in the anti-trust violation, the plaintiff cannot recover damages from the defendant.
Why is this important? Because the lawsuit filed today only seeks a declaration from the court that the Scheduling Agreement's "withdrawal fee" provisions violate anti-trust laws. We are not seeking damages. Smart.
It feels to me, just reading these documents for the first time over the last 20 minutes or so, that the PAC 12 signed the scheduling agreement knowing the Withdrawal Fee portion of the agreement was unenforceable. In other words, our lawyers are smarter than theirs. "
BoatyMcBeaver 🟦
The PAC 2 considered moving/merging with the MW, but realized that in order to solidify itself as the best 5th conference moving forward in this new college football landscape with NIL, playoffs, etc. they had to trim the fat and bring in the overall best G5 teams available. Once UNLV and Gonzaga join, AAC schools will be back to the negotiating table.
As far as the MW acquiring exit fees and poaching penalties, it will be good for them in the short term but it won’t last long term.
Agree on the PAC trimming the fat they absolutely did not want the bottom of the MWC. And the merger would have worked but MWC wanted to much. As stated from news agencies, for the PAC to keep all assets they have to keep the name other wise the get nothing. With UM. UCF and other AAC schools turning down the invite to create to premiere G5 conference and the 5th best conference or higher, in all college football, was truly unfortunate. Listening to some of the fan blog and media in those areas... they wanted it to happen. Some beleve that ESPN and FOX had something to do with it all. Because it messes with there supper league. I hope they come back to the table.
@@ranger135 I do think there’s a huge possibility for the most desired AAC schools to come back to the negotiating table, especially if the PAC can negotiate down the exit and poaching fees. Also, they still have time to continue to work with TV networks, and who knows… the MW may outright dissolve if UNLV leaves.
@@DayOneRob I think they have to wait it out until the AAC schools exit fees decrease or set to expired and it will depend on how much is their media rights contracts are worth. The reason for that is it makes no sense for Memphis, Tulane, or any AAC school to move if travel costs is still too high in contrast to the conference payout.
They are eating the bulldogs, they are eating the rams, they are eating the broncos
I SAW IT ON TV!
I don't mean to sound like an a hole, but I live in El Paso, and when the crossers pivoted from latin Americans to not latin Americans, the feral cat population vanished.
The circle is complete.Wazzu and OSU have become the back stabbing conference killing villains of someone else's story.
Eat or be eaten is not back-stabbing - it is survival of the fittest, and they were the far more "fit".
They were a business man doing business
Congrats to UTAH STATE as I post this video they have OFFICIALLY been announced as the seventh member of the PAC-12, effective July 1, 2026.
CFB is now all about $$$.
Always has been.
Loving the videos bro keep up the solid work and I appreciate the accurate information
It’s battle of the fittest. B1G and Big 12 showed Pac12 no mercy & the PAC is doing the same to MW.
Wonder what would’ve happened if Texas and Oklahoma just stayed in Big 12.