Of course right after I upload the Pac-12 filed a lawsuit against the MWC over the poaching penalty 🤣 "The complaint details reasons that the penalty is unlawful, including that (1) it restrains trade; (2) its only goal is to distort competition and lock in schools from leaving for a competitor; and (3) its damages are excessive and unreasonable “to the amount the MWC may be harmed from the loss of its member schools.”
“There is no legitimate justification for the ‘poaching penalty,’” the complaint says. “In fact, the MWC already seeks to impose tens of millions of dollars in ‘exit fees’ on MWC schools that depart from the conference. To the extent the MWC would suffer any harm from the departures of its member schools, these exit fees provide more than sufficient compensation to the MWC.”
Yah, plus the MW commissioner is a former lawyer. I don’t think they are going to find anything unlawful. They are just going to waste more of their PAC war chest to try to intimidate the MW. It’s not going to work…
Do not count long term Tulane, Memphis and South Florida being out of the Pac 12 sights, they wants those markets but just as important they want to eliminate the AAC as a threat for that 5th guaranteed playoff spot. Do not be surprised if Pac 12 tries to go after North Texas and Rice, besides their markets that would weaken the AAC next TV deal and thus make other AAC teams take a second look. I think they will also go after Texas State, under an hour from San Antonio and Austin and frankly a much bigger upside than say UTSA.
Long term I agree those schools are not solid in AAC. This is more so just in terms of in the now. Texas State was mentioned a good amount before the AAC news came out. Texas is important I agree and NT/Tex State are growing brands as well.
the east coast schools understand you can't count on projections of what media contracts might be, when the PAC-12 does not have media contract that pays what they are currently getting paid in the AAC. No need to burn a bridge with AAC until the PAC-12 has confirm media rights package.
No teams will leave the AAC until a media negotiation is back on the table. If Memphis and tulane won't budge cause they can't afford the 25 million dollar buyout then rice and North Texas straight out of C- USA Sure in the hell not paying 25 million exit fees
I being an East Coaster just eating popcorn to see who goes first, the MW dissolution or the ACC. *I'm a JMU alum and am anticipating to see where we go if the eastern conference gets raided by the ACC/B12. *
JMU showed the other day they belong with the big boys, the ACC surviving or not is the big question. I think if UNLV and Gonzaga go to the Pac 12 a few of those AAC schools will re-evaluate and take a second look at leaving, that could open the door to JMU.
It does NOT make sense to be with the other service academies in the AAC, it would make AF travel for other sports extreme and I know for fact their coach prefers joining the Pac 12. MWC can go after schools like New Mexico State, UTEP, Sam Houston, Louisiana Tech and some that want to jump up to FBS like Sacramento State.
AF would for sure have issues with other sports if they went all AAC. I would see them doing what the other service academies do and have their other sports in different conferences while being a football only member in the AAC. I would like to see AF stay out west simply for regionality at the end of the day. MWC has the options I just hope it happens quick enough in case the P12 does try and go for the finish.
@@HuntleyHuddle Head Coach Troy Calhoun at AF, a AF former player, turned down interviews at Washington and Oregon State in the past, he is almost a institution there at this point, he has a lot of influence and I know he prefers the Pac 12, now the question is does he have enough influence with the AD to stop a move to the AAC?
I agree, AFA has a huge tv draw across the nation. All bases have a huge following. They fit much better into the new PAC. Travel partner in CSU etc. They will still play Navy and Army regardless of the conference they are in.
@@deanfirnatine7814 That's a great point actually. Is his influence enough to sway. I love coach Calhoun and I always tell people what he has done at Air Force is insane. Easily the most underrated coach in football. Also enjoy Tim Horton he was Auburn’s running backs coach for awhile.
The poaching penalty is extremely high, insiders are saying since the MWC had the two Pac 12 schools over a barrel, they were desperate and needed to schedule those games that they took advantage of them, the term journalist John Canzano used was bullied them then asked for a raise from $14 million to $30 million to repeat the scheduling agreement this year and when the Pac 12 balked at that the MWC commish basically tried block MWC schools from scheduling them at all even for a couple games, reports are that is why the Pac 12 is being utterly ruthless now against the MWC, they are pissed at how they feel they were treated.
This notion that since the American schools said "We're not coming" means that option is done is a bit premature. People should have taken that more as "We're not coming... right now" more than anything. I still believe at least Memphis and Tulane, and likely UTSA, Rice or even USF, will be joining the PAC eventually. They just want better assurances on the money first and waiting a season or two greatly lowers their exit from the American at the same time. That scenario is far from over though.
I just meant in terms of right now. I wanted to minimalize the amount of information to the now with how much happened yesterday. If this goes the way I think it may be going we could very much see those teams in the P12.
@@HuntleyHuddle Oh I agree. You can only project with what we know right now. There's just this vibe going around the subject online where people think that option is over because they are not thinking long term. But if the money gets right things will change quickly, lol
Should've just merged, called it the PAC-West, and sang kumbaya. Too many power hungry people. The MWC commish has a a background in law so lets see where this goes. If anything it makes for a good late night popcorn read.
That probably was where it was headed, a merger under the Pac 12 name but under MWC leadership BUT some media are reporting she tried to really put the screw to the two Pac 12 schools financially and quoting John Canzano journalist here "bullied" them and the relationship completely fell apart last month and its pretty bitter at this point.
@@BuffaloPros I’m sure Utah State was a top 6 add? Sounds like PAC12 just trying everything and anything to keep the name and power, but it’s really just another G5 conference. I would bet OSU and WSU will bolt at the first hint of any interest from the P4. Then what? Add New Mexico and Nevada? What a waste of money. If they’ve merged they would’ve saved all that money they owe the MWC now and put it to good use.
Reports are the CW is offering the new Pac 12 twice what MWC schools were making in TV money and when their contract is up the remaining MWC schools without the big four schools they lost will receive even less money than before, I would not be celebrating anything if I was in the MWC, now that makes me sad since I like the MWC but those are economic facts. Eventually those penalty payouts will run out and the TV money will be half what it was.
Honestly I think UC Davis should go to the Pac12. It is a UC school, which has a great reputation and is in the Sacramento Market. The UC system is better than the Cal State system. I also think that California is what made the PAC what it was. Adding another California school would help the PAC. I think San Jose State so they can keep a presence in the Bay Area.
It sure appears the PAC would have to add UNLV, AFA, New Mexico and a throw in of Nevada (politically) to get the 9 universities needed to dissolve the MWC. Sorry Wyoming, SJS, Hawaii, who I feel for.
To dissolve the MWC and avoid paying high exit fees they must get 9 MWC votes to dissolve. Which is why the PAC might have to take 9. The value is in that vote. Dissolving the MWC = close to 160,000,000 in fees the schools would not have to pay. So while on tv value for Nevada say provides little, their vote could be the one to dissolve the MWC so it mean a ton. Sometimes value comes in many forms.
Hawaii (football only) is the only one the Pac has reportedly any interest in of the leftovers. I have not heard they have any interest in New Mexico either and as you point out any interest in University of Nevada is simply due to political pressure, take UN or you cannot have UNLV.
I don’t see pac-12 ever threatening the AAC. The chaos that has been unleashed in west coast football is going to reverberate for a while..until either only the pac or MW survives. As it stands now, if the MW continues even if it is takes FCS Bob down the street, the PAC will have to pay MW to stay around. I don’t see a TV deal that would challenge the AAC unless either the MW or the PAC merges. They just divided in half what the MW was? So that leaves the PAC with a huge handicap. This is not to take away the success on the field these teams have. No question the new pac on paper is a better football conference. But they have a financial Plateau. On the other hand the AAC are all growing institutions in large cities, heavy research and football that’s competitive.
The AAC is worse than the PAC already. Look at where each of these schools is ranked by different power indexes. Not even close. I get the hesitation from Memphis and co. I do. But the American isnt what it once was. The top 5 brands in the the new PAC are better than anything in the American sans Memphis.Tulanes surge is very recent + USF and UTSA have tons of potential to grow, but Boise, SDSU, Fresno, OrSt and Wazzu are far stronger brands.
@@scooberz2015 nothing you said is wrong, but brands have a plateau. Then It turns to spread sheets, growth of student body, what state you are in, and what your university is pulling via research and education. Though surface level these institutions look like minor league football teams, these are educational programs. Football isn’t the driver for smaller schools as much as the other avenues for cash. This is G5 not P5
CW offer already has contract outlines depending on who the Pac-12 gets that will be double or triple what the MWC and AAC current contract is, (the AAC contract is only slightly better than MWC) and losing 5 teams replacing them with schools like New Mexico State will only make that worse, MWC is now the Sun Belt West. Based off just who they currently have the Pac 12 will be heavily favored for the 5th guaranteed playoff spot (top 5 rated conferences) over the AAC and that is not me saying that but college football gurus on TV. If Pac-12 adds UNLV, Air Force, Texas State (sun belt) and Gonzaga their TV money will surpass the AAC by double or more and if that happens look for schools like Tulane, Memphis etc to reconsider
They took way more than half the value of the MWC. Literally took the MWC's #1 and #2 teams historically in football, #1 and #2 teams historically in basketball and #1 and #2 teams historically in baseball.
Sorry if I come off blunt, I could write another long post but in the end we are going to agree to disagree. Only time will tell who will be at the CFP for G5. Looking at what money is already black and white secured, the AAC is the place to put your money if you want stability, success on the field, and growth. This isn’t P5 this is G5 start learning where smaller schools get their money you will come to the same conclusion.
the PAC 12 legally signed the contract....it should be upheld. UNLV should NOT join the PAC 12. UNLV should stay in the MW and do WHATEVER is necessary to make itself attractive to the BIG 12 in about 5 yrs.
This is typical legal maneuvers to reduce the penalty and make a settlement, insiders were saying there would be a suit over this almost a month ago. UNLV may wait for the Big 12 but they may be waiting a LONG time, Gonzaga has been waiting for a Big 12 or Big East invite for years and years. The reported numbers the CW is offering the Pac 12 if they can pick up a couple more schools in good TV markets or national followings like UNLV, Air Force or Texas State is way better than MWC or AAC, like three times as much as MWC, they also would be virtually guaranteed that 5th playoff spot as well.
At this point, I kinda want the BCS system back. I’m tired of this pay-to-play bullsh*t CFP. D1 football has become all about greed and money. The more money you have, you’re in automatically. If you think about it, that’s the reason that caused all the realignment chaos in the first place. One thing I like about the BCS system was that rankings were computer generated rather than human voters who have a ton of bias.
It has nothing to do with the BCS system or not, its all about TV Contracts and market size. The BCS left us thanks to computer rankings with Nebraska playing Miami in the National title game after Nebraska getting creamed by Colorado in a late season game over a #2 Oregon (in both major human polls), a Oregon team that then went on to cream Colorado, that travesty is why computer rankings are dead and done for.
@@deanfirnatine7814 I’m not saying it was perfect but I hate the pay to play concept of the CFP, which essentially leaves group of 5 members out completely, unless they’re ranked high in the pre-season, which is unlikely. They just don’t want to see another Boise State beat a Big school in a bowl game again and the way it’s set up now looks to me like that’s what they’re preventing. It’s become more about money than anything which is ruining D1 football. It’s a rigged system and they’re not going to change it unfortunately. They advertise it as everyone has a chance to go to the CFP Championship. It’s a scam. Just keep it simple and straightforward with a normal playoff system with zero politics involved. It doesn’t have to be flashy. But again, they’re not going to change
Hear this: If done right the new PAC will incorporate the 2 most football crazy regions in the country: the South and the Mountain west. Memphis and Tulane UTSA (or Texas State) and Rice Utah State and Wyoming South Florida and Southern Miss UConn and Georgia State 16
Tulane, UTSA, South Florida and Memphis FOR NOW turned the Pac 12 down (although word was they never actually offered to UTSA) I think they may go after Texas State, North Texas and Rice as replacements, if the Pac 12 gets UNLV and Gonzaga as well their TV contract will certainly surpass the AAC and Tulane, South Florida and Memphis may be calling them wanting in.
Pac has zero interest in Wyoming, Nevada etc, its about TV Market, the formulas these networks use is kind of strange, even actual current ratings take a back seat to just potential with TV Market size, that is why the Pac has/had interest in even schools like Rice and North Texas because of TV Market size. Pac is throwing the kitchen sink out there to get UNLV at this point because they are the linch pin and if pulled all kinds of other schools now may be available, if they agree it could get several others to agree like Air Force, Gonzaga and some AAC schools that are on the fence to stay or go like Rice and North Texas as well as Sun Belt Texas State.
Of course right after I upload the Pac-12 filed a lawsuit against the MWC over the poaching penalty 🤣
"The complaint details reasons that the penalty is unlawful, including that (1) it restrains trade; (2) its only goal is to distort competition and lock in schools from leaving for a competitor; and (3) its damages are excessive and unreasonable “to the amount the MWC may be harmed from the loss of its member schools.”
“There is no legitimate justification for the ‘poaching penalty,’” the complaint says. “In fact, the MWC already seeks to impose tens of millions of dollars in ‘exit fees’ on MWC schools that depart from the conference. To the extent the MWC would suffer any harm from the departures of its member schools, these exit fees provide more than sufficient compensation to the MWC.”
Negotiation, to settle for lower penalties
The Pac 2 agreed to it.
Yah, plus the MW commissioner is a former lawyer. I don’t think they are going to find anything unlawful. They are just going to waste more of their PAC war chest to try to intimidate the MW. It’s not going to work…
@@spinnycat9531 Since when has that stopped a lawsuit?
Pac should add UNLV, Nevada, Wyoming to dissolve MWC and Zags and St Mary's as basketball
"ABSOLUTE CRAZYTOWN!!!!" NO DOUBTS 🏀 🏈
Hope MW stays together with some combination of the 2 Montana. 2 North Dakota, and 2 South Dakota Schools... AAC/Army fan, yes on Air Force to AAC.
For the PAC-12 UConn & Hawaii Football (State flagship Universities) + Gonzaga & St Mary's for Olympic sports makes for a nice combination.
My very thought as well 👍💯
Sounds too much like they’re trying to pretend to be a power conference. They’re never going to be one again.
@@BuffaloPros But they won’t be a power conference and they never will be.
@@NoOne-gh5cp But it won’t be automatic.
Do not count long term Tulane, Memphis and South Florida being out of the Pac 12 sights, they wants those markets but just as important they want to eliminate the AAC as a threat for that 5th guaranteed playoff spot. Do not be surprised if Pac 12 tries to go after North Texas and Rice, besides their markets that would weaken the AAC next TV deal and thus make other AAC teams take a second look. I think they will also go after Texas State, under an hour from San Antonio and Austin and frankly a much bigger upside than say UTSA.
Long term I agree those schools are not solid in AAC. This is more so just in terms of in the now. Texas State was mentioned a good amount before the AAC news came out. Texas is important I agree and NT/Tex State are growing brands as well.
No way Texas State has a bigger upside than UTSA lol
the east coast schools understand you can't count on projections of what media contracts might be, when the PAC-12 does not have media contract that pays what they are currently getting paid in the AAC. No need to burn a bridge with AAC until the PAC-12 has confirm media rights package.
No teams will leave the AAC until a media negotiation is back on the table. If Memphis and tulane won't budge cause they can't afford the 25 million dollar buyout then rice and North Texas straight out of C- USA Sure in the hell not paying 25 million exit fees
I being an East Coaster just eating popcorn to see who goes first, the MW dissolution or the ACC. *I'm a JMU alum and am anticipating to see where we go if the eastern conference gets raided by the ACC/B12. *
JMU showed the other day they belong with the big boys, the ACC surviving or not is the big question. I think if UNLV and Gonzaga go to the Pac 12 a few of those AAC schools will re-evaluate and take a second look at leaving, that could open the door to JMU.
It does NOT make sense to be with the other service academies in the AAC, it would make AF travel for other sports extreme and I know for fact their coach prefers joining the Pac 12. MWC can go after schools like New Mexico State, UTEP, Sam Houston, Louisiana Tech and some that want to jump up to FBS like Sacramento State.
AF would for sure have issues with other sports if they went all AAC. I would see them doing what the other service academies do and have their other sports in different conferences while being a football only member in the AAC. I would like to see AF stay out west simply for regionality at the end of the day. MWC has the options I just hope it happens quick enough in case the P12 does try and go for the finish.
@@HuntleyHuddle Head Coach Troy Calhoun at AF, a AF former player, turned down interviews at Washington and Oregon State in the past, he is almost a institution there at this point, he has a lot of influence and I know he prefers the Pac 12, now the question is does he have enough influence with the AD to stop a move to the AAC?
I agree, AFA has a huge tv draw across the nation. All bases have a huge following. They fit much better into the new PAC. Travel partner in CSU etc. They will still play Navy and Army regardless of the conference they are in.
@@deanfirnatine7814 That's a great point actually. Is his influence enough to sway. I love coach Calhoun and I always tell people what he has done at Air Force is insane. Easily the most underrated coach in football. Also enjoy Tim Horton he was Auburn’s running backs coach for awhile.
Now the Pac-12 is suing the MWC over having to paying poaching penalty, which they agreed to in the terms and condition of for the schedule alliance.
They released it about 30 minutes after my video lol. I knew something would happen!
The poaching penalty is extremely high, insiders are saying since the MWC had the two Pac 12 schools over a barrel, they were desperate and needed to schedule those games that they took advantage of them, the term journalist John Canzano used was bullied them then asked for a raise from $14 million to $30 million to repeat the scheduling agreement this year and when the Pac 12 balked at that the MWC commish basically tried block MWC schools from scheduling them at all even for a couple games, reports are that is why the Pac 12 is being utterly ruthless now against the MWC, they are pissed at how they feel they were treated.
This notion that since the American schools said "We're not coming" means that option is done is a bit premature. People should have taken that more as "We're not coming... right now" more than anything. I still believe at least Memphis and Tulane, and likely UTSA, Rice or even USF, will be joining the PAC eventually. They just want better assurances on the money first and waiting a season or two greatly lowers their exit from the American at the same time. That scenario is far from over though.
I just meant in terms of right now. I wanted to minimalize the amount of information to the now with how much happened yesterday. If this goes the way I think it may be going we could very much see those teams in the P12.
Absolutely agree sir!!! 👏
@@HuntleyHuddle Oh I agree. You can only project with what we know right now. There's just this vibe going around the subject online where people think that option is over because they are not thinking long term. But if the money gets right things will change quickly, lol
Should've just merged, called it the PAC-West, and sang kumbaya. Too many power hungry people. The MWC commish has a a background in law so lets see where this goes. If anything it makes for a good late night popcorn read.
That probably was where it was headed, a merger under the Pac 12 name but under MWC leadership BUT some media are reporting she tried to really put the screw to the two Pac 12 schools financially and quoting John Canzano journalist here "bullied" them and the relationship completely fell apart last month and its pretty bitter at this point.
@@BuffaloPros I’m sure Utah State was a top 6 add? Sounds like PAC12 just trying everything and anything to keep the name and power, but it’s really just another G5 conference. I would bet OSU and WSU will bolt at the first hint of any interest from the P4. Then what? Add New Mexico and Nevada? What a waste of money. If they’ve merged they would’ve saved all that money they owe the MWC now and put it to good use.
If I’M amongst the programs left in the MWC I’m staying and celebrating the new money for the programs and add other schools if needed.
Reports are the CW is offering the new Pac 12 twice what MWC schools were making in TV money and when their contract is up the remaining MWC schools without the big four schools they lost will receive even less money than before, I would not be celebrating anything if I was in the MWC, now that makes me sad since I like the MWC but those are economic facts. Eventually those penalty payouts will run out and the TV money will be half what it was.
Honestly I think UC Davis should go to the Pac12. It is a UC school, which has a great reputation and is in the Sacramento Market. The UC system is better than the Cal State system. I also think that California is what made the PAC what it was. Adding another California school would help the PAC. I think San Jose State so they can keep a presence in the Bay Area.
Pac and MWC supposedly were both interested in Sacramento State jumping up, UC Davis will not happen, no one seems interested in San Jose State.
MWC is still a very new conference so not much history.
It sure appears the PAC would have to add UNLV, AFA, New Mexico and a throw in of Nevada (politically) to get the 9 universities needed to dissolve the MWC. Sorry Wyoming, SJS, Hawaii, who I feel for.
The PAC-12 is adding Utah and maybe UNLV. The others have no absolute value. They only need 8 schools.
To dissolve the MWC and avoid paying high exit fees they must get 9 MWC votes to dissolve. Which is why the PAC might have to take 9. The value is in that vote. Dissolving the MWC = close to 160,000,000 in fees the schools would not have to pay. So while on tv value for Nevada say provides little, their vote could be the one to dissolve the MWC so it mean a ton. Sometimes value comes in many forms.
Hawaii (football only) is the only one the Pac has reportedly any interest in of the leftovers. I have not heard they have any interest in New Mexico either and as you point out any interest in University of Nevada is simply due to political pressure, take UN or you cannot have UNLV.
I don’t see pac-12 ever threatening the AAC. The chaos that has been unleashed in west coast football is going to reverberate for a while..until either only the pac or MW survives. As it stands now, if the MW continues even if it is takes FCS Bob down the street, the PAC will have to pay MW to stay around. I don’t see a TV deal that would challenge the AAC unless either the MW or the PAC merges. They just divided in half what the MW was? So that leaves the PAC with a huge handicap. This is not to take away the success on the field these teams have. No question the new pac on paper is a better football conference. But they have a financial Plateau. On the other hand the AAC are all growing institutions in large cities, heavy research and football that’s competitive.
The AAC is worse than the PAC already.
Look at where each of these schools is ranked by different power indexes. Not even close.
I get the hesitation from Memphis and co. I do.
But the American isnt what it once was. The top 5 brands in the the new PAC are better than anything in the American sans Memphis.Tulanes surge is very recent + USF and UTSA have tons of potential to grow, but Boise, SDSU, Fresno, OrSt and Wazzu are far stronger brands.
@@scooberz2015 nothing you said is wrong, but brands have a plateau. Then It turns to spread sheets, growth of student body, what state you are in, and what your university is pulling via research and education. Though surface level these institutions look like minor league football teams, these are educational programs. Football isn’t the driver for smaller schools as much as the other avenues for cash. This is G5 not P5
CW offer already has contract outlines depending on who the Pac-12 gets that will be double or triple what the MWC and AAC current contract is, (the AAC contract is only slightly better than MWC) and losing 5 teams replacing them with schools like New Mexico State will only make that worse, MWC is now the Sun Belt West. Based off just who they currently have the Pac 12 will be heavily favored for the 5th guaranteed playoff spot (top 5 rated conferences) over the AAC and that is not me saying that but college football gurus on TV. If Pac-12 adds UNLV, Air Force, Texas State (sun belt) and Gonzaga their TV money will surpass the AAC by double or more and if that happens look for schools like Tulane, Memphis etc to reconsider
They took way more than half the value of the MWC. Literally took the MWC's #1 and #2 teams historically in football, #1 and #2 teams historically in basketball and #1 and #2 teams historically in baseball.
Sorry if I come off blunt, I could write another long post but in the end we are going to agree to disagree. Only time will tell who will be at the CFP for G5. Looking at what money is already black and white secured, the AAC is the place to put your money if you want stability, success on the field, and growth. This isn’t P5 this is G5 start learning where smaller schools get their money you will come to the same conclusion.
The west pac lol
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the PAC 12 legally signed the contract....it should be upheld. UNLV should NOT join the PAC 12. UNLV should stay in the MW and do WHATEVER is necessary to make itself attractive to the BIG 12 in about 5 yrs.
This is typical legal maneuvers to reduce the penalty and make a settlement, insiders were saying there would be a suit over this almost a month ago. UNLV may wait for the Big 12 but they may be waiting a LONG time, Gonzaga has been waiting for a Big 12 or Big East invite for years and years. The reported numbers the CW is offering the Pac 12 if they can pick up a couple more schools in good TV markets or national followings like UNLV, Air Force or Texas State is way better than MWC or AAC, like three times as much as MWC, they also would be virtually guaranteed that 5th playoff spot as well.
At this point, I kinda want the BCS system back. I’m tired of this pay-to-play bullsh*t CFP. D1 football has become all about greed and money. The more money you have, you’re in automatically. If you think about it, that’s the reason that caused all the realignment chaos in the first place. One thing I like about the BCS system was that rankings were computer generated rather than human voters who have a ton of bias.
It has nothing to do with the BCS system or not, its all about TV Contracts and market size. The BCS left us thanks to computer rankings with Nebraska playing Miami in the National title game after Nebraska getting creamed by Colorado in a late season game over a #2 Oregon (in both major human polls), a Oregon team that then went on to cream Colorado, that travesty is why computer rankings are dead and done for.
You have a pretty delusional fantasy of what the BCS was.
@@deanfirnatine7814 I’m not saying it was perfect but I hate the pay to play concept of the CFP, which essentially leaves group of 5 members out completely, unless they’re ranked high in the pre-season, which is unlikely. They just don’t want to see another Boise State beat a Big school in a bowl game again and the way it’s set up now looks to me like that’s what they’re preventing. It’s become more about money than anything which is ruining D1 football. It’s a rigged system and they’re not going to change it unfortunately. They advertise it as everyone has a chance to go to the CFP Championship. It’s a scam. Just keep it simple and straightforward with a normal playoff system with zero politics involved. It doesn’t have to be flashy. But again, they’re not going to change
Hear this: If done right the new PAC will incorporate the 2 most football crazy regions in the country: the South and the Mountain west.
Memphis and Tulane
UTSA (or Texas State) and Rice
Utah State and Wyoming
South Florida and Southern Miss
UConn and Georgia State
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Tulane, UTSA, South Florida and Memphis FOR NOW turned the Pac 12 down (although word was they never actually offered to UTSA) I think they may go after Texas State, North Texas and Rice as replacements, if the Pac 12 gets UNLV and Gonzaga as well their TV contract will certainly surpass the AAC and Tulane, South Florida and Memphis may be calling them wanting in.
Pac should add UNLV, Nevada, Wyoming to dissolve MWC and Zags and St Mary's as basketball
Pac has zero interest in Wyoming, Nevada etc, its about TV Market, the formulas these networks use is kind of strange, even actual current ratings take a back seat to just potential with TV Market size, that is why the Pac has/had interest in even schools like Rice and North Texas because of TV Market size. Pac is throwing the kitchen sink out there to get UNLV at this point because they are the linch pin and if pulled all kinds of other schools now may be available, if they agree it could get several others to agree like Air Force, Gonzaga and some AAC schools that are on the fence to stay or go like Rice and North Texas as well as Sun Belt Texas State.