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I have an MK4S and can only agree with you about the print quality. But Bambulab fans will see it differently. There will be a shitstorm. The MK4 has Input Shaper activated by default, even without Accerolomter. But with fixed values. I, and some others, have checked the values with an Accerolomter. And get almost the same results. I have also tested it on different surfaces. No difference. Here too, Prusa was right in her assessment. You can see the experience they gain in their print farm vs. the theories of internet experts. If you don't change anything on your MK4, you can save yourself the cost of the Accerolomter.
@@herr_rossi69 interesting so you saying that basically after assembly at the factory once they perform that one input shaping command you're saying that it's tuned in so well that it won't really make a difference what environment or table you put it on? Some of it I totally agree with and I definitely want to get some more clarity from Prusa because I'm just not understanding how a table that has vibrations in it from the printing or a little bit of a wobble doesn't have the need for compensation. I've experienced much of what you've been talking about about moving it from table to table and not seeing any issues but most of those tables were pretty well solid. Either way I'm sure bambu lab fans will be upset. The truth is I'm a bambu lab fan as well. Any company that can produce good results at a cost-effective price and lower the bar of entry for students and teachers to enter this world of 3D printing is a fan of mine. However I definitely did notice that the quality was better on the Prusa. However comes down to a quality difference of excellent to very good. Similar to when I got a test back and getting a 98 vs 94 most people wouldn't really be upset between those two numbers. I certainly would have been thrilled to get any of those grades. Anyway thank you so much for the great feedback I'm definitely going to follow up with Prusa and thank you so much for watching
@@lukaskantor2645 I think today it's becoming harder and harder for people to make this decision between the two companies. Price is a huge factor of course. I think both printers do a great job quality-wise but it's clear after the MK4S review as well as seeing these printers in the wild perform at conventions that their quality is a step above. However with that being said a lot of people are very happy with very good/great. At the end of the day I think you're going to be very happy with the core one and if it's anything like the MK4S You should be very happy. Thanks again for the feedback and for watching
WOW... The test print speaks volumes, imho. Still a little early to justify the purchase of a new machine, but with new innovations, that gap is quickly closing. However, Prusa has always oozed quality. Thanks for sharing your review.
The Gap is definitely closing quickly . Prusa always manages to innovate and push things to the next level. Thank you so much for the feedback and thanks for watching.
Good video! You may have already seen it, but it looks like Prusa will be reducing the price of their MK4S assembled/kit offerings by a further $100 from Black Friday and onwards!
The main selling points of the Prusa for me are Repairability abd Modifiability. My worry with the core one's new footprint is how much of that has been maintained/ how much have they been sacrificed to compete with Bambu? Waiting to see the verdict on that Awesome to see this print comparison though Makes me feel more confident about getting the MK4 if the Core One doesn't pan out.
@@ItsRyanStudios Great point! The ability to repair and modiafiability is definitely one of the key selling points behind Prusa. You make an excellent point about what's been sacrificed to get there. I will say I'm a little bit amazed that they're able to even taken MK4S and offer a conversion kit into a core one. If they can make bed sneakers into CoreXY units via conversion kits I feel like we'll be in good hands. They could have very easily have decided to release the core one independently but they didn't. I don't think anyone would have expected them to make an upgrade path from a bedslinger to a corexy but they did it. The fact that they did this makes me hopeful that they're not going to sacrifice or leave anybody behind. Thank you so much for the feedback these are excellent points that we should all be aware of. Thank you for watching
The core one does not have an active heated chamber. It has active chamber temperature control. Prusa has been very careful about calling active temp control NOT active heated chamber
I see what you mean. At 4:10 I tried to make that differentiation that it's not like any other active heating chamber but that this one actually controls the temperature. I probably should have articulated it a little bit better but I think it's still considered an active heating chamber it just additionally has a temperature control for being able to regulate the temperature within the chamber. So I bare minimum it can be an active heating chamber but it goes so much further than that. My hope was that people would understand it's not like any other heating chamber. However I'll be sure to reference that accordingly going forward. It was absolutely my full intent in the video to show how much further this goes than a standard active heating chamber. However wouldn't one consider this to still be an active heating chamber just with the extra feature of temperature regulation? Because that bare minimum It still does active heating but it goes so much further with the temperature control. Anyway as always thank you so much for your feedback and thank you so much for watching
@@CaptainCreativity I think that fact that even Prusa does not call it an actively heated chamber tells you its not an activily heated chamber. Its passively heated from the bed, but there is temp control, it can cool it off, but it can't actually heat independent of the bed heat. Calling it anything else would just be a bit deceptive - which is exactly why Prusa does not call it that in any of their published material. I'm not a hater - I ordered it 15 minutes after the blog post announcing it. But there already has been some negative comments it not being a active heated chamber, when prusa NEVER calls it that - its just youtube reviews mistaking describing it as active heated, and the bambu bros are latching onto that and saying that Prusa is being dishonest, when in fact they never describe it as such.
With open design ready for extensions the Core One will have chambrer heating addon in couple of days, maybe even hours, after first machines will be in the hands of community.
@@jan.bednarik I hope so - and that is the great part of the open firmware of Prusa. A real active heater will really need to be controlled through the core one firmware to be a truly usable solution. So for that reason I don’t think it will be within hours. But I do hope it does become available eventually in a properly intergraded fashion, perhaps using the newly released hacker-board for firmware integration(meaning the active temperature control would now also use the heater for a truly active heated chamber solution) Should be interesting to see what people build on this growing ecosystem of modding for the Prusa. I think this is where they can really shine vs. some of the closed system vendors.
Well, good thing is we will start seeing mk4 for sale on the used market, further pushing down the mk3s down in price. I honestly prefer the bed slinger, and its fast enough, in its simplictic design. The core one looks a bit cheap with its sheet metal frame. I wonder how long it will take to build from a kit. I don't think there's much of s difference from what already on the market. No thanks, the creality k2 looks to be overall better at the same price. Prusa machines do hold their value better, less of them in the wild. I think the corexy hype is already said and done. Prusa should have came out with this years ago. Oh, I have some older prusa machines. I'm not necessary a fanboy, I'm like to tinker and have an open source platform.
That's very strange I'm going to see what was causing that. Thank you for letting me know when I tested it on my mobile phone I didn't hear a difference. Was this throughout the entire video or just in that hook intro?
Hey everyone, Mr. Editor here, Sorry about the audio for the intro only coming through one side on this video. We’ll make sure to fix it for future uploads. Thanks for your understanding and for sticking with us-you’re the best.
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My left ear really liked the intro
I’m really looking forward to experimenting with all its features and creating prints I’ve only dreamed of making before.
I have an MK4S and can only agree with you about the print quality. But Bambulab fans will see it differently. There will be a shitstorm.
The MK4 has Input Shaper activated by default, even without Accerolomter.
But with fixed values. I, and some others, have checked the values with an Accerolomter. And get almost the same results.
I have also tested it on different surfaces. No difference.
Here too, Prusa was right in her assessment.
You can see the experience they gain in their print farm vs. the theories of internet experts.
If you don't change anything on your MK4, you can save yourself the cost of the Accerolomter.
@@herr_rossi69 interesting so you saying that basically after assembly at the factory once they perform that one input shaping command you're saying that it's tuned in so well that it won't really make a difference what environment or table you put it on? Some of it I totally agree with and I definitely want to get some more clarity from Prusa because I'm just not understanding how a table that has vibrations in it from the printing or a little bit of a wobble doesn't have the need for compensation. I've experienced much of what you've been talking about about moving it from table to table and not seeing any issues but most of those tables were pretty well solid. Either way I'm sure bambu lab fans will be upset. The truth is I'm a bambu lab fan as well. Any company that can produce good results at a cost-effective price and lower the bar of entry for students and teachers to enter this world of 3D printing is a fan of mine. However I definitely did notice that the quality was better on the Prusa. However comes down to a quality difference of excellent to very good. Similar to when I got a test back and getting a 98 vs 94 most people wouldn't really be upset between those two numbers. I certainly would have been thrilled to get any of those grades. Anyway thank you so much for the great feedback I'm definitely going to follow up with Prusa and thank you so much for watching
I have mk3s and last month im looking for upgrade. There was 10minutes in my life i consider bambulab, but then i order one core :-) and im waiting
@@lukaskantor2645 I think today it's becoming harder and harder for people to make this decision between the two companies. Price is a huge factor of course. I think both printers do a great job quality-wise but it's clear after the MK4S review as well as seeing these printers in the wild perform at conventions that their quality is a step above. However with that being said a lot of people are very happy with very good/great. At the end of the day I think you're going to be very happy with the core one and if it's anything like the MK4S You should be very happy. Thanks again for the feedback and for watching
WOW... The test print speaks volumes, imho. Still a little early to justify the purchase of a new machine, but with new innovations, that gap is quickly closing. However, Prusa has always oozed quality. Thanks for sharing your review.
The Gap is definitely closing quickly . Prusa always manages to innovate and push things to the next level. Thank you so much for the feedback and thanks for watching.
Filament Holder Guide tubes are Teflon.
Good video! You may have already seen it, but it looks like Prusa will be reducing the price of their MK4S assembled/kit offerings by a further $100 from Black Friday and onwards!
The main selling points of the Prusa for me are Repairability abd Modifiability.
My worry with the core one's new footprint is how much of that has been maintained/ how much have they been sacrificed to compete with Bambu?
Waiting to see the verdict on that
Awesome to see this print comparison though
Makes me feel more confident about getting the MK4 if the Core One doesn't pan out.
@@ItsRyanStudios Great point! The ability to repair and modiafiability is definitely one of the key selling points behind Prusa. You make an excellent point about what's been sacrificed to get there. I will say I'm a little bit amazed that they're able to even taken MK4S and offer a conversion kit into a core one. If they can make bed sneakers into CoreXY units via conversion kits I feel like we'll be in good hands. They could have very easily have decided to release the core one independently but they didn't. I don't think anyone would have expected them to make an upgrade path from a bedslinger to a corexy but they did it. The fact that they did this makes me hopeful that they're not going to sacrifice or leave anybody behind. Thank you so much for the feedback these are excellent points that we should all be aware of. Thank you for watching
I got the MK4S Kit with the black friday sale and ima use the voucher to get the core later. I prob should have waited for the Core One but idk
The core one does not have an active heated chamber. It has active chamber temperature control. Prusa has been very careful about calling active temp control NOT active heated chamber
I see what you mean. At 4:10 I tried to make that differentiation that it's not like any other active heating chamber but that this one actually controls the temperature. I probably should have articulated it a little bit better but I think it's still considered an active heating chamber it just additionally has a temperature control for being able to regulate the temperature within the chamber. So I bare minimum it can be an active heating chamber but it goes so much further than that. My hope was that people would understand it's not like any other heating chamber. However I'll be sure to reference that accordingly going forward. It was absolutely my full intent in the video to show how much further this goes than a standard active heating chamber. However wouldn't one consider this to still be an active heating chamber just with the extra feature of temperature regulation? Because that bare minimum It still does active heating but it goes so much further with the temperature control. Anyway as always thank you so much for your feedback and thank you so much for watching
@@CaptainCreativity I think that fact that even Prusa does not call it an actively heated chamber tells you its not an activily heated chamber. Its passively heated from the bed, but there is temp control, it can cool it off, but it can't actually heat independent of the bed heat. Calling it anything else would just be a bit deceptive - which is exactly why Prusa does not call it that in any of their published material. I'm not a hater - I ordered it 15 minutes after the blog post announcing it. But there already has been some negative comments it not being a active heated chamber, when prusa NEVER calls it that - its just youtube reviews mistaking describing it as active heated, and the bambu bros are latching onto that and saying that Prusa is being dishonest, when in fact they never describe it as such.
With open design ready for extensions the Core One will have chambrer heating addon in couple of days, maybe even hours, after first machines will be in the hands of community.
@@jan.bednarik I hope so - and that is the great part of the open firmware of Prusa. A real active heater will really need to be controlled through the core one firmware to be a truly usable solution. So for that reason I don’t think it will be within hours. But I do hope it does become available eventually in a properly intergraded fashion, perhaps using the newly released hacker-board for firmware integration(meaning the active temperature control would now also use the heater for a truly active heated chamber solution) Should be interesting to see what people build on this growing ecosystem of modding for the Prusa. I think this is where they can really shine vs. some of the closed system vendors.
Wait for Bambulab H2D
prusaslicer isnt the original
Slic3r is the original prusaslisser is a fork of it
Ah interesting so Slic3r is the origin. Got it. Thank you so much for the feedback. Thanks for watching 😊
Well, good thing is we will start seeing mk4 for sale on the used market, further pushing down the mk3s down in price. I honestly prefer the bed slinger, and its fast enough, in its simplictic design. The core one looks a bit cheap with its sheet metal frame. I wonder how long it will take to build from a kit. I don't think there's much of s difference from what already on the market. No thanks, the creality k2 looks to be overall better at the same price. Prusa machines do hold their value better, less of them in the wild. I think the corexy hype is already said and done. Prusa should have came out with this years ago.
Oh, I have some older prusa machines. I'm not necessary a fanboy, I'm like to tinker and have an open source platform.
fix the sound! the voice is left channel only
That's very strange I'm going to see what was causing that. Thank you for letting me know when I tested it on my mobile phone I didn't hear a difference. Was this throughout the entire video or just in that hook intro?