Okay here’s the deal, as a former competitive senior level figure skater, I definitely feel for her… she’s such a talented skater and I wish her all the best. But letting her compete ruins the integrity of the sport and the Olympic Games due to the fact that others have been banned in the past, plus I don’t know another sport that would make such a decision this way. Unless the “powers that be” plan on being equitable/fair with everyone going forward and allowing everyone to compete despite whatever drug turns up positive and regardless of where the athlete is coming from, then fine… otherwise, she shouldn’t skate. Or she can skate but cannot be placed meaning her skate is just for show/exhibition. Also I might get so much hate for saying this but blaming a family member for taking the wrong medication is KIND OF like Ted Cruz blaming his kids for going to Mexico during the crisis that happened in Texas a while back (not saying it’s the exact same thing but it’s kind of similar). I think it’s time they raise the age limit to 18 so we have women competing who know how to hold themselves accountable… 🥺
@@veganpotterthevegan probably because she doesn't have a say in what the adults in the training team give to her. Still, extremely disrespectful to those clean athletes for her to be allowed to skate.
This is literally the same regurgitated b.s. that so many other self-righteous commentators have said. You probably even believe it makes you reasonable, fair, and well-measured. What it really makes you looki like is an opportunistic, because you're pushing an implication that she's a dope and that her superiority on ice is due to doping. One sample of a trace amount of a heart medication does not a skater make. Even if it was intentional, that med would confer no benefit, especially as a one time thing. All her other tests before and after were negative
@@andyy3596 She can admit she doped and ask to be suspended. She can not skate. Kids have done bigger things in terms of coming out honestly. That said, for all we know, she wanted to take everything she thought she could get away with. Doing for teens isn't actually that uncommon.
Coming into the Olympics, this “protected person” is FIRST and FOREMOST, an ATHLETE. Hence, she is bound by the rules and standards expected of EVERY SINGLE athlete competing in the Olympics. A positive test for any banned substance should automatically disqualify her as an Olympian. It is disgusting how she can STILL be allowed to compete just because she is “protected.” This devaluates everything that the Olympics stands for!
They broke the rules with timing of her test. It should have been delivered a month ago. Thus she stays. And stop politics in sport, you hate the girl just because she is from the wrong country. No doping can simulate her grace, no doping can help you landing jumps.
@@bluecuracao6478First, there is no politics here. Only rules and standards that every athlete (and his/her team) must uphold. Second, we don’t hate the girl. In fact, it was such a pleasure to watch her. That’s a foul strike for you to say we hate her. Third, the country she hails from is a repeat offender for the same violation. It is you who says she is from the “wrong country.” Hence, YOU are the one politicizing this. Fourth, her grace, her lines, and her jumps are absolutely exceptional. No contest. Yet, it doesn’t change the fact that she tested POSITIVE for a banned substance. An evidently clear violation of Olympic rules and standards. And so she stays. An insult to all other athletes who came into the competition clean before and all the way through the games.
@@bluecuracao6478 Please stop! This has nothing to do with politics, and it's asinine to say that anyone "hates the girl". Rules are rules, and to BEND them for ONE person is an insult to all the other Olympians who've dedicated their lives, drug free!
@@rolandoalvarez4007 как насчёт норвежцев 🤷🏻♀️ без своих препаратов эти астматики слетели с пьедестала 😃😂✌️ куда смотрит Мок и ВАДА ? Им это неинтересно? Или делают вид что это нормально ? Уже весь мир смеётся над Мок и ВАДА 🤣😆😁😄😃 что ещё придумают отношении Росиии , а наши фигуристки как выступали прекрасно так и будут выступать!!!! Пора уже успокоиться и заткнуться👌
She broke the rules she should not be allowed to compete. She is old enough to be in the Olympics she knows the rules! They get tested from a very young age and know what's going on. She is a great skater but she broke the rules so she should be out. Holding up the metal ceremony because of her is wrong, it's not fair to the other skaters who followed the rules!
Violated the rules of WADA by not providing the results of the inspection within 20 days. She even he can open the B sample to justify himself, since for this you need to fly to Stockholm. WADA must be held accountable. And pay moral damage to Camila in the amount of $ 50 million.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
The other olympians should protest this seriously…they work hard and actually stay clean. She is young and can still do well in the future Olympics but that’s so unfair towards the others who have put their all in to stay clean
@@anastasiya4267 looking forward to her not receiving a medal for positive drug use, she’ll be known in Olympic history as another cheater that ruined it for others
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Let's make a single rule for everyone: no illegal drugs can be in the possession of athletes participating in international competitions (no medical exceptions like Serena Williams or Norwegian skiers ...) If we are talking about rules - they should work for everyone without exception! Why were the deadlines for performing test analyzes violated? Where is the guarantee that nothing was added to the tests? Why does information appear in newspapers before official documents are published? Because the rights of athletes are constantly violated. Looking at Camila, I can say for sure - she does not need doping to win!
The results are a shame. The delay is a scandal! Enough about the results. Tell me about how you forgot/ missed this sample!!! Why didn't you follow up if her results from Christmas were missing?! You just had to humiliate Kamila :/
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
She isn't qualified to attend the competition. So many athletes put so much effort without any drug help. It is absolutely unfair And her coaches should be responsible for the problem plus other skaters taught by them need to be tested coz there are lots of suspicious matters under their system.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
If you don't disqualify this, you'll get more doping in the future and it's against the fairness of the Olympics. I've been practicing hard for 4 years. If only the one who doped stands out, I'd do that too.
Almost six years ago, American gymnast Christine Sheldibine tested positive for doping. It showed extremely low levels of a banned diuretic. It turned out that the substance had entered her system with tap water, which she drank directly from the tap. Did American officials then blame - as they did in the case of Kamila Valiyeva's sample - the entire system for what happened? No, no punishment was imposed on the athlete and she performed at the Olympics. There have been at least 25 anti-doping investigations in the U. S. since 2016 that have ended without penalty.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
I feel sorry for her, because everything is decided for her by the coaches and she's still very talented. But it's not fair that she's at the Olympics IF she used doping during other competitions that she won which made it possible to go to the Olympics..
the drugs are also used more importantly training to help a person do more reps/day and recover faster. being on those drugs for years leads to years of increased training compared to non-doped athletes that creates a strong difference once you compete.
Неужели вы думаете, что она не победила бы эти соревнования без этого допинга? Вы читали про то вещество, которое у нее нашли? От него не прыгают четверные и не тянут носок, это просто тупая лажа.
@@ririzukachan Я сам против допинга в любой форме. Считаю, что попался с допингом - пожизненное лишение права принимать участие в соревнованиях. Только так можно эту проблему решить, но в данном конкретном случае налицо подстава, она была и без этого очень сильной. Даже в данном случае я бы согласился на пожизненный запрет, но с условием такого же запрета для всех без исключений. Было бы очень обидно потерять самую лучшую фигуристку за всю историю человечества, но честно ли это по отношению к нам, к болельщикам, когда мы знаем, как судят откровенных нарушителей. Я не смотрю биатлон, поскольку знаю, что наши спортсмены осознанно шли на этот беспредел, они добились того, что я не верю ни одному лыжнику и ни одному биатлонисту, могут поставить себе горшок на голову за успех.
She is undeniably talented. But it's either all or nothing. Otherwise the integrity of the anti-doping organization is not upheld. Why would her age be any excuse? I don't care if you were unknowingly given the drugs or not - the people surrounding her who did so would not receive any glory if they know the standards do not regard young age as a way to pass through the system. And it is not only unfair to the rest of the competition, it also sets a bad example for the future of competition in knowing people can get away with it under the right circumstances.
She's a RUSSIAN CHEAT. Pure and simple. Putin's government sponsored doping program that's been on going since probably the 1950's. Russian athlete = PED's. Btw, this Russian Doping scandal at the Olympics is keeping us DISTRACTED while her dictator president Putin prepares to invade Ukraine.
i believe that the coach does some bad things to these girls and i don’t think anyone should blame kamila. i do think she should however be taken out of the olympics this year. or at least not be scored. no one is taking away or diminishing her talent, it stands on its own and is clear to anyone watching how insanely clean and gorgeous of a dancer she is. she should get the chance to show it off at the next winter olmpics but the roc will not learn anything if kamila still competes in this one. there is no punishment with her still competing. i absolutely love her dancing and will continue to watch/support her throughout her whole career, she’s just so special but the adults who failed her need to be punished and blamed.
Damned stupid foreigners rotten from the inside especially y’alls brains can’t even think for themselves the medicine that she took in no way can improve her performance 🙄🤡
@@KnowTrentTimoy It's not about sport, this is politics, as so many people like you hate Russians and Russia we know which governments act meanly and provocative. This is not doping this is jealous and it was done in vitro for: 1 - to humiliate Russia, 2 - raise the skaters age, 3 - to ban Tutberidze. That's what we Russians feel from you. If you say "She's a Russian cheat" it means you're looking in the mirror and you see yourself there. We never say about countless medical exceptions what your athletes have, but this is a real doping.
Regardless of her age and her excellent talent, it is very wrong. Letting her skate is like slapping on the faces of all the skaters and hurting the legacy of Olympics games. Anyone who was selected to attend the Olympic games, regardless of ages, should take the responsibility of the cleanness of her body seriously. At the 2014 Sochi, what happened to the Russian team? Still not learning the lesson? Kamila is still young and has a longer life of future, so there is no need to give her a sympathy. She needs to learn to follow the rules. And she can come back in the clean body in the future games. But not now, not like this. It is so unjust and unfair to others skaters who followed the rules and came here to compete on the fair and equal ground.
>Kamila is still young and has a longer life of future She will 19 in the next olympics, jacka s. And that is relatively old age for figure skaters. Your argument is invalid. > She needs to learn to follow the rules She's just a child, she isn't responsible for it. Her coach is. You cant' do anything other than being jealous because little15 yo girl is beating older competitors.
None of the other competitors are necessarily clean. It just happens that this particular substance has been banned since 2014. She only mixed up medications because she was doping heavily on the LEGAL side and one of grandfather's meds slipped in, just as she says. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if most athletes do dope "legally" and have to constantly monitor the list of banned substances. It's not her fault and the whole system is messed up.
She didn't need any drug to enhance her ability, she is over qualified in her performances. And why was she the only one given and not the entire Eteri team. Was she framed up?
@@russki1978 source: trust me bro yeaahh right I am sure your opinion is worthy as a fact and really hope someone believes you and your worthless opinion
Going against the grain here. So if she tested positive for doping back in December, why didn't she get disqualified before the Olympics even started? Did they just get the test results in last week? The timing of this scandal seems unusual, as if it had been meticulously placed for this kind of drama. But controversy and shock drama aside, watching Kamila Valieva skate is enchanting and magical. I'm not discrediting the hard work the other clean figure skaters have put into this competition. It must have felt unfair and unjust but a little empathy and understanding for how much pressure and attention is being flooded onto Kamila...imagine the psychological trauma that must leave behind. Hopefully this doesn't break her but she'll bounce back better than ever.
I was thinking that it might be possible that the sample they tested was contaminated or mixed up. But then instead of denying that she ever took drugs, she came up with “it got mixed with grandpa’s meds”.
Dear Russian friends who read this post, I am French and do not speak a word of Russian, so I express myself in English. You must Know that you are not alone in the face of the big Anglo-Saxon propaganda which takes advantage of Valieva's misfortunes to accuse you. Many people in France are seriously beginning to be fed up with this American propaganda that is imposed on us all year round. We haven't forgotten that you spoke French at the Tsar's court. I hope we will do this great europe again, which goes from brest (in france) to vladivostok. In the meantime, I wish the best to this wonderful Kamila Valieva and the worst to those who are hounding this fifteen-year-old girl.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Thank you Jacques! I hope that France will be strong and will not loose own culture , will not forget own great history… ✊ and our Kamila is a talent, our whole country supports her, people like you support her… thank you!!
If you’re French leftist and most of French people think this way , you’re on best way to become a satellite republic of Russia. And believe me it’s not sweet freedom.
@@utahdan231 Hello, you don't know French politics. The French on the right are on the contrary for a more balanced policy between the United States and Russia, and therefore to stop spitting on the Russians as our current president (MACRON) does, who is a poodle of Uncle Sam.
@@atoukoi yes , I know your politics and I know your history , especially WW2 where French let die tens of thousands of people collaborating with Germans in your “most romantic”city. You sound pathetic and dangerous with your dreams to built Europe from France to Vladivostok. You must be very young or very naive adoring Russia.
What people overlook is that this is not the end. If they find that she did violate the rules they will take away her medal (if any). She was allowed to compete because apparently there was no time for her to appeal the test. The most probable outcome is she provisionally wins a medal, and then she loses the appeal and thus loses the medal.
it is not her fault that WADA has manupilated the test results. If she wins, she won't be stripped of the medal as she is still a minor. Same rules will apply.
None of the other competitors are necessarily clean. It just happens that this particular substance has been banned since 2014. She only mixed up medications because she was doping heavily on the LEGAL side and one of grandfather's meds slipped in, just as she says. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if most athletes do dope "legally" and have to constantly monitor the list of banned substances. It's not her fault and the whole system is messed up.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
@@ww2remembered983 who knows the long term effects this could have on her. Let alone the wear and tear on her body during this insane moves. There'd a reason other women can't do these kind of moves.
This is so much bigger than one skater, and a sublime and extraordinary one at that! She strikes me as a good kid, but the trouble is the systematic feeding of whatever drugs to all these kids, presented as supplements to the entire Tutberidze squad by domineering adult coaching staff, including an anesthesiologist who has ADMITTED to researching illegal drugs for performance enhancement and who was already implicated in doping!!! Not only does the tender age of Tutberidze skaters make them more able to drive to ever greater and tougher physical feats (albeit at the expense of their health after the expiration date of 17 years of age), but I'm certain it makes them easier to boss around and force to fall in line.
The fact is that there was no systematic feeding. The drug was found in only one of many thousands of her samples taken during her sports career. Many in the West don't want to hear this. Russian girls are so good that some other nations perceive Russia's superiority in figure skating as a personal insult and try to present this single positive test of Kamila as evidence that Russians achieve their victories not with work and talent, but with the help of pharma.
Right? It's wild all these people are blaming this kid. As if these coaches don't make every single decision for her. Tutberidze openly admits to keeping kids away for their parents for years at a time because the kids will be more obedient to her, and she can make them practice on the ice for twelve hours a day. Many of these Russian kids are shamed about their weight, and even starved- Tutberidze praised one teen athlete for 'not obsessing about food like the others' being docile about eating 'two shrimp' for dinner, putting them on liquid diets and other extreme weight-control measures that stunt their development and make their bones brittle. In a climate like this, how reasonable is it to think that they can say 'no' to these pills. Its a completely authoritarian system, and these kids are thought of as a 'product' of their coaches technique, and not as human beings with their lives ahead of them.
If we want athlete's who are fully responsible for everything that goes into their bodies, we should be demanding adult performers instead of skaters in their early teens. That age limit needs to be raised. 18?
it’s a disgrace to Olympic. it no longer holds the meaning. shouldn’t have competed if she had some dignity left. feels bad for all the other skaters who had to compete with her
Trimetazadine. It's for angina (chest pain) and is banned in competition because it allows for more oxygen in the blood, increasing performance. Russians are also known to look for an create drugs to give their athletes that will not show on doping tests.
A PED was higher than was allowed on one level . The level never supposed to be slightly higher for a 15 year old. Fur coats will be arriving soon to these arbitrators and it’s just sad.
I know she's a child, but she's been an athlete for most of her life & performed in similar large competitions for many years. She knows it's bad and not allowed. Her coaches should also be held accountable. I agree that if you're going to compete in the Olympics with by default, mainly adults, then you should be treated and judged in the same manner.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Answer is simping NO. lol. They have done it over and over again and they will continue. They got away since 2014. IOC should take all their gold medals back and give them to silver medalists.
@@Морозов-ь7с she is so talented. May be one of the best ever. However, she is just another product for Camp Tuberidze. ET birthed her daughter in the states, gave her an american name and could have made much more money here. The problem: ET knows that the US would never promote and allow the doping of young girls . Its abusive and morally wrong.
When they don’t dope their athletes, they find other ways to steal the medals, look at Sotnikova in Sochi 2014 and the multiple scandals in Rhythmic Gymnastics. I like watching them, but that mafia attitude destroys the sports.
Go Camila!! Doping or not, she's the world's best skater by Leaps and Bounds. You can take away her quads and she still is the best skater in the world. She floats on the ice. No one can touch her. Even if other skaters dope, they still could not touch her she's that good
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Russia is still under scrutiny for their Sochi doping scandle. I feel like it would be very strange to once again play these kinds of games. I'm more likely to agree that their was some kind of a mixup.
A mix up?? Hahahaha, what 15 year old 'world class athlete' has to take THREE heart medications, or whatever the huck they are?? You must be a Trump supporter... He's a pure as the driven snow and would never, lie, steal, or especially cheat!!
They have 2 samples and it was tested by another lab. They are disputing the test results they are playing the minor card. Russia is good at finding technicalities. Still the IOC has banned athletes with far less and yet this is allowed. Seriously the other skaters should protest because they are going to miss out of the awards ceremony if she gets a medal and they do too.
She is the best skater the world ever seen. The experts are working on verification of the only positive test on December 25 with a TRACE of banned medication. All the other tests before and after are negative. She doesn’t need a drug. Who else can skate as she does even they take a ton of drugs ?
Sorry but that excuse is pathetic. If she's truly clean there should be absolutely no trace of the drug in any of the samples. That's why they take multiple samples, because if an athlete has taken the drug ahead of time it might not show up in every one. She's a doper, plain and simple, and should be banned.
PERFECTLY possible to get mixed up. I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years, and in all that time I've NEVER seen ANYONE use a cloth to dry stuff after washing up, it's ALWAYS left to dry on its own. The amount of TMZ in her sample was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. Infected cup ?? ABSOLUTELY possible given the 2.1 parts in a billion that was detected.
And how do Americans, all so honest, who are for honest sports, feel about the fact that their athletes drink drugs, saying that a doctor prescribed it to them? But wait, legal or not, you drink drugs that make you stronger and you win, but WADA says it's all right, it's legal. Is it fair to other athletes who come out already knowing that you took drugs and they won't beat you? No, it's as unfair as doing it covertly, but you keep doing it and it's no less depressing for your opponents. You are talking about honesty and fairness, but are you honest yourself after the whole world learned last year that many athletes from the US and other countries are taking drugs that are banned by WADA? After the sanctions of Japan last year, Biles showed a poor result, without her drugs, refused to continue, she proved by this that they helped her to take high places. Let's take all her medals, just like everyone who drinks drugs, even if it's for health. It will be honest and fair if the sick will perform in the Paralympic sport, and not with healthy ones))) And it’s too cunningly they came up with someone who has a migraine, she drinks medicine for migraine, but it increases her physical data. Is it fair? No. In such rules there is no honesty and integrity. I won't be surprised if all countries have their own laboratories that make new drugs that are not on the WADA list. I'm sure. Why, before Sochi, Russians were not caught so often on drugs, and after Sochi, Russians all decide to actively drink them? This is strange, very strange. I wonder which country will be the culprit of such scandals next? Which country will stand in the way of the United States to medals ... if the world still remains as it is now?)))))
I need specific examples and specific drugs please, because so far I have nothing. Russia has already been banned from the Olympics, maybe they should... actually be banned.
why u explaining all this to this stupid fake nation?? let them believe to everything they've been told from tv. I've been living there for 4 years and those people literally have 0 critical thinking and they like to blame other countries.
@@offlong You are absolutely right. The people of this country are no longer capable of critical thinking. Their opinions are easily manipulated by their government, party leaders, political elite and the media. They, like little children, trust everything negative that they are told about other peoples, because the conflicts inside their country are so deep that it is necessary to create an image of an enemy outside of it in order to reduce the intensity inside. They are not curious, and they are not interested in the world outside their country.
@@valerie8217 if you were truly a critical thinker you would see that we are all humans first and what country we happen to be from is a very superficial thing, no different than one's color or culture. To stereotype is being no better than those you criticize.
this is a question about doping, the people who are doing this should investigate, according to the law, especially since there was no doping in her blood, and the microdose could accidentally turn out to be really in her blood, or someone could put this doping in Valieva's test... the guilt has not been proven , especially since she is a minor !
A transgender man can compete with women, asthmatics can inhale salbutamol in terms of importance, although this is an outright dope. This girl Valieva cannot be trimetazidine, despite the fact that even if she faced a risk (even though it is meaningless), it does not manifest itself in any way on the results in figure skating. In the US, a whole fleet of athletes involves doping. Where is pure sport here? Modern WADA has frankly discredited itself.
No matter who it is, how old, how young, what conditions,etc,etc....those who compete on the Olympic playing field are all treated equal. To use her age in this way is just wrong. On a human level, I certainly feel for her. But that has nothing to do with the rules of these games if they are to be played fairly....which apparently they aren't. This whole Olympics this year has been a debacle from the get go.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
How in the world could anyone believe this could be a mixup with grandpa's heart medication, right!😬 This young woman is clearly very talented; she certainly was my favorite! I didn't watch today though because what has happened is very wrong, impacted too many other athletes and will taint these games forever!😥 Russia needs to be held accountable for this incident and past issues.
I completely agree with you. I believe that the main reason why they haven’t punished her yet is do to the conflict in Ukraine-Russia. This could easily be the catalyst that leads to Russia invading Ukraine if things go sideways.
I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years. In ALL that time I've NEVER seen one person EVER use a cloth to dry stuff after washing. It is always left to dry on its own. It IS PERFECTLY possible that Kamila drank from an infected cup.
Russians also believe it's a plot by America to try and get rid of her 🤣 It's not even a popular sport here, we don't base our whole identity on it like they do. We have nothing to do with her positive test that was checked in SWEDEN. lol 😆
@@melgonz.6962 Ice Skating IS huge in the USA, and for many OG they prided themselves on the golds that the solo ladies won. But their solo girls have now been absolutely blown away for the last 3 OG in a row by Russia, no wonder the US is full of sour grapes.
just tell me honestly that you are tired of seeing Russian figure skaters at international competitions ... admit it , but there is no need to break the fate of an innocent 15 - year - old girl who has gone a long way to success with her work
Girl Russian skaters are my favorite, but this is bad, even for Kamila, if you like her you should also criticize the coaches that gave her substances. I despise Tutberidze after seeing what happens to Lipnitskaia. How can you support the systematic destruction of little girls body’s just to get a medal?
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
The Olympics is an adult event so why are kids competing against adults? The world must draw a line when it comes to age. America doesn't allow 15 year old kids to play in professional sports, so why are kids competing in the Olympics? When you mix kids with adults it always goes bad just like it did here with adults providing this little girl with drugs. Must be 16 years old to compete at the Olympics!
Камила допущена судом до соревнований из-за ошибок допущенных ВАДА. Защищенная персона это только о том, что информация о расследовании не должна была попасть в прессу, а главный подозреваемый это тренер. Олимпийский комитет, до момента пока не будет закончено расследование и Камила не будет оправдана, отложит церемонию награждения. Для гипотетической ситуации если Камила не будет оправдана, квалификацию расширили на одну дополнительную участницу. Это все.
2nd Sample will be positive also.. hence the grandfather BS story, lol.. She has been locked up at a training camp for years, probably doesn't even know what her Grandfather looks like.
PERFECTLY possible to get mixed up. I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years, and in all that time I've NEVER seen ANYONE use a cloth to dry stuff after washing up, it's ALWAYS left to dry on its own. The amount of TMZ in her sample was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. Infected cup ?? ABSOLUTELY possible given the 2.1 parts in a billion that was detected.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
She tested positive, slightly above detection limit only once, never before, and never after. She has the right as a young woman to defend herself, use sample B from the time (december 25) or being punished in due process. I think the people who are mostly at fault here, damaging everyone in the competition is the testing agency, producing a report only after 6 weeks (should have been enough to produce her genome map). And it was the day after the Olympic team event! Please note, that Russia has 3 athlete hopefuls for medal in female single event. The Russian team could have replaced her and still could have had a high chance to win the team gold (perhaps by less than 7.5 points). So it is only the US and Japanese skating team who benefits from the delay and the chaos resulting from this saga. It is unfortunate that the rhetoric and attitude of the mainstream US media (like CNN in this case) suggests that the Olympic games is a war and not a celebration of sports. (Eileen Gu and Fox lies channel being a good example) While it is critical to fight doping, and punish if proven guilty, but only through due process, and rushed decisions pressured by media (and nationalist steam) should not destroy the spirit of a young woman. I am glad this decision was made, Valieva can show her talent to the world. Whether the medal will be hers at the end, we have to see, but I think the world will benefit from seeing her art. It is important to note, that having this substance in your body in trace amounts for a short period of time (maximum for a week in this case) will not result in unfair disadvantage of oxygen saturation of the bloodstream during training, which this drug could do if taken for a long period of time. Nobody is accusing her of doing that. So I am not convinced that this december test (if true) means horrible cheating and doping, as suggested by the media, and certainly doesn't make her more flexible, artistic, or land a quad jump. So, I think she qualifies for the benefit of my doubt and I am very glad that she was not further humiliated and sent home. She deserves her run, and we will see how it will all play out.
Regarding the amount of TMZ, it was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. The biggest amount of shame in the women's skating is the light years difference in technical ability between the 'Quad Squad' and the rest of the field. Compared to them, the rest of the skaters are a total embarrassment, (and we all know how much the USA hates to be embarrassed at anything, since they consider themselves to be the best in the world at everything).
@@user-ui6kv2np8i she tested positive, "to put in in perspective": I used to perform radioimmunoassay lab tests, very sensitive tests which detect extremely small quantities of substances. The amount detected may be small, but still detected, meaning it was present! Keep in mind trimetazidine has an elimination half life of only 6 hours, which means every 6 hours half the dose is eliminated. The illegal drug should have tested ZERO, not difficult to comprehend! They knew testing would take place and likely stopped the doping before the tests, believing it would clear the system enough to be undetectable. Fact is THEY GOT CAUGHT! PERIOD! CHEATERS!!!!!
The Valieva Maneuver is awesome! You can do it too! Go to any Russian Olympic training camp and they’ll teach you how. Just bring your grandpa’s TMZ with you.
My opinion after watching her performance is that I’m glad they had the sense to let her compete. It was one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen, so captivating and emotionally moving. They should definitely take her medals away afterwards for the sake of the Olympics but I’m glad they let that piece be performed.
@@13ghosts18 IMO - It was a good performance, but a couple did just as beautifully. In case you can't find her short program (spoiler alert), she FELL and still go the highest score (scored on top)!
They will take her medal away ONLY if she is proven to have taken the meds. But she will prove all those who are now attacking her wrong and she will be the most celebrated female figure skater in history, especially given all the psychological pressure she had to endure in the last couple of days.
@@JuYong_Lee No. She wasn’t cheating. She slapped the top scoring Japanese athlete by almost TEN points yesterday. She will slap the rest of them again in the free skating program soon again. All while jealous and envious scumbags shriek “doping” without any evidence whatsoever.
Disagree with that! Plenty of other skaters in the past have been just as breathtaking. I have been watching FS since the 80's. Are you saying past medalist are not as relevent ?
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
USA Simone Biles had a pass and has won lots of medals taking Ritalin since forever, she withdrew from japan games because she wasn't allowed to use her Ritalin there lol. In fact, most western athletes suffer from "asthma and allergies" and compete using banned substances with the excuse of their medical conditions. its use is prohibited in sport by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) because it may enhance explosiveness, power, strength or stamina, which something that Simone is very well known by her performance in public. She hid her medical records until they were leaked. Then she suddenly became an activist for ADHD. In Japan, however, Ritalin is not prescribed for ADHD and you can't bring your own without a permit, which she didn't get. Then she could not complete because she had mental issues lol
Ritalin is a stimulant that improves focus hence why its prescribed for ADHD. It also raises your heart rate and actually reduces stamina. There is a stigma around ADHD in the US and she never hid anything. Everyone in the US has private medical records by law.
No decency. For her to know that no other girl will get a medal, any medal, all because of her and she won't just drop out shows absolutely no decency. No moral censor. No soul.
It seems that this world is not worthy of Kamila Valieva. She allowed people to touch the divine gift and witness a miracle, and they are trying to measure her with three steps of a pedestal.
I do not understand what is happening now between the United States and Russia, I am apolitical, for me all people on the planet are the same, and it is more important for me to maintain normal communication with every person on planet earth than to quarrel because we are all different
Every other athlete is SO far behind the 'Quad Squad' in terms of technical ability that they shouldn't even be on the same ice, most of the men can't do quads but these girls do them for fun. In technical terms the rest of the field is an utter embarrassment.
Even if you commit something amazing, you'll be at an award ceremony. Is the referee out of his mind? Figure skating is totally ruined. Russia's Sotnikova and Balieva are all ruined.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
@FreedomKeeper Trimetazidine is an Olympic banned substance. Therefore, I think that all the medals that have been won by the players who have participated so far should be stripped.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
No, you're not alone. I keep saying this to everyone. If Valieva loses her medal, then Shcherbakova will likely take the gold and they will let her have it. Everyone knows she's not clean either.
Re test her again period! Some countries want to put her down because shes the best skater right now in the world .I guess if shes from low level Country it would not be a great big of a deal!! Politics as always
PERFECTLY possible to get mixed up. I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years, and in all that time I've NEVER seen ANYONE use a cloth to dry stuff after washing up, it's ALWAYS left to dry on its own. The amount of TMZ in her sample was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. Infected cup ?? ABSOLUTELY possible given the 2.1 parts in a billion that was detected.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
She has tremendous mental strength to perform in that environment. This girl is an amazing talent and shouldn’t be subjected to commentary from lesser skaters.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
It's totally unfair and she should 100% be disqualified, but that being said she's the best figure skater I've ever seen. Had she not taken the drugs I believe she would still have easily won gold
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
It is especially puzzling since TMZ is forbidden by law to be prescribed for any minor. Why THREE different heart medications? What was the other prescribed medication Kamila Valiyeva claims she mixed up with her grandfather's medication? When was she diagnosed with a heart condition? Where are the diagnostic test results from those tests: Electrocardiogram (ECG), Stress test, Transthoracic, echocardiogram (echo or TTE), Transesophageal echocardiogram (TEE), Positron emission tomography (PET) scan, Thallium scans or myocardial perfusion scans, Holter monitor, Event recorder, Implantable loop recorder, Tilt table test, Electrophysiology study, Cardiac catheterization (coronary angiogram), MRI of the heart, Cardiac CT scan?!!
her doping test was faked, so that everything was honest, let the laboratories that conduct doping tests do it online so that all participants in the countries can see that everything is honest, how do we know, maybe they put this doping test in a flask, there are no witnesses, except for those who did it this test .. all the more so as it was found out that this is not doping, but a fragment of a microdose of heart medication, unlike Simon Biles, these are not large doses in the medicinal version, which are prohibited and regarded as doping
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
Highly unusual. Stop with these ridiculous games. Built in places lately that haven't had snow. Brazil throwing away all that money when they have so many so impoverished. Enough of this silliness
You are right. Olympics went on with the Zika virus in Brasil. These people in this olympics should have stayed home, like the rest of us, instead of being international travellers during a pandemic.
Why Is she allowed to skate after she is caught doping but Shacarri Richardson isn't allowed to run track in the Summer Olympics? Oh the Double Standards! This clearly is about race!
I've known of her for years, she's always been amazing and deserving of gold.. I don't believe these medications had any significant impact on her performance
STILL does not discount the fact that she tested POSITIVE for a banned substance. An evidently clear violation of the Olympic rules and standards expected of every single athlete.
I think the athlete is innocent in this case. No way a 15 years old doped under the table with exact formula. The adults around her have failed her. No way this has happened without the coach and parents approval.
@@hansoullee9231 don't you think if they can get away with this, it will be a repeatable offence in the future? Your are pretty much saying all athletes under 16 can dope as long as their coaches don't tell them
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
I’m sure my post will be unpopular but I’m just going to put my thoughts out there and welcome anyone with meaningful feedback to opine. First and foremost have I misunderstood that the investigation into her alleged doping is still ongoing and until completed Kamila is only allowed to continue to compete but NO medals will be awarded until the investigation is closed? Assuming I’m correct in my assumption I pose the question to all the competitive athletes out there or anyone who had a once in a life time shot to achieve a dream, wouldn’t you want the same opportunity if in your heart you believed you hadn’t broken the rules? Kamila is a kid competing for a Country that is notorious for exploiting young athletes all for the glory of bringing home the most Olympic medals. They invest hundreds of thousands in these athletes from a young age and treat them and their families like celebrities. Unlike in the US they can’t just walk away and post on social media they are being exploited and forced to take drugs. Otherwise they and their family members will pay dearly. Looking back at Kamila’s performances from when she was a child she was always ahead of the curve. She had the poise of a prima ballerina and the athleticism of a world class gymnast from a very young age. She was a natural. Add to that the fearlessness it takes to even attempt a quadruple jump and she already raised the bar. I think it’s safe to say even without the meds that supposedly increase her physical endurance she’d be landing at least one set of quads in her routines and easily executing the triple combos that qualify as highly difficult. Before the doping allegations even Tara Lipinski described her as quite possibly the best female figure skater ever. At the same age Tara won the gold and was easily a phenom but looking at the two skaters side by side there is a distinct difference in their performances aside from the jumps and it has nothing to do with drugs. Also at 15 I doubt Tara or any other American Olympian had to contend with the national pressure that athletes from Russia and China have on them from the time they are kids. The latter do as their told. Whatever the story Kamila is telling to justify the reason she tested positive with three meds that coincidently aren’t classified as PEDs, I would bet money that it was fed to her by her coaches and just like every other aspect of her performance it’s her job to sell it. My point is that we are all judging this child on actions that are well beyond her control and whether or not we believe she has the right to win a medal for her performance I think we should be gracious enough to allow her the benefit of the doubt and to participate in the process. For anyone who missed her short program after all this went down, just being able to perform under the microscope knowing that most of the English speaking world is rooting against her is enough to convince me she’s the real deal and if she were representing the USA we’d all be rooting her on.
That wouldn't be surprising to know that there were other heart medicines involved after her statement that her food might have been contaminated by her grandpa accidentally, especially after hearing that he's got an artificial heart. I thought that pandemic taught people how to be kind to one another and don't jump to conclusions recklessly. Seems like this lesson hasn't been learnt yet, and media is just haunting a kid in search of a new clickable story...so disappointing
@@melgonz.6962 it's not about believing in it or not. It's easy to check it with B sample and whether this ridiculous thing actually happened. I mean, my COVID tests have been false negative 2 times until it was double checked and confirmed, I ended up having COVID and proper treatment despite the labs mistakes. Those medications they refer to in Valieva's case aren't regarded as doping, for figure skater they can bring more harm especially at that age. That's disturbing, indeed. I'm saying that whether she's guilty or not, it's not for the society as a whole to decide. It's a matter of proceedings and experts with a high level of expertise. Unless it's proven that it, indeed, was the case of violation, treat her and her case with the presumption of innocence like in any other case. It's unfortunate that all events aligned, yet usually athletes have some time to prove their innocence or admit wrongdoing. They just don't have time to do everything at once right now. Both the accusing and defending sides. Plus the flow of event is just unfortunate, especially how people respond to it, well, it's not surprising since it's so controversial
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
@@freedomkeeper4504 the drug is banned and it is banned for a reason. Anyone can say they accidentally ingested it. Just because she is young doesn't mean she is an innocent.
Once in December, a TRAIL of the drug was found. Never before, never after, the drug was found. Including at the time of the performance in February, all tests are clean. Figure skating is a technique. Show me a remedy that can improve technique? Look at her performance, do you really think that trimetazidine helped her to perform? Show me a figure skater who this drug would help win figure skating)). Common sense suggests that there was no need for Valieva to take this medicine. Even if she drank it, this is not a drug that can improve results, this is a drug for treatment.
@@freedomkeeper4504 it doesn't matter. They can't have one set of rules for one person and another set of rules for someone else. She had a banned drug in her system. Period. She was tested shortly before the Olympics just like Sha Carri was. You have all these excuses for this girl who could very well be lying about the "accidental ingestion".
@@freedomkeeper4504 the drug can improve endurance. So it certainly isn't a stretch to think she took the drug with high hopes of making the Olympic team.
bring us back to the good old days when skaters just hired hitmen to get rid of competition
Lol!!!
LOL, remember that, what a mess!
Thats how we did it in the 80s/early 90s
@@roselane6074 lmao, so true
I resemble that remark...
Tonya...😂
I shouldn't be bitter that she's allowed to compete. I really shouldn't. She's only 15. But it just doesn't seem fair that she faces no consequences.
You should be. Why is she evaluated on a lower standard just because she's 15? She is competing with other adults and she should be treated as such.
She took the drug. No one forced it down her throat. She knew the rules, yet ignored them. She needs to be banned!
Cause She's white
@@dennismichealsm3786 ??? What
Она досихпор находится под подозрением. Если ее вина будет доказано она будет дисквалифицирована.
Okay here’s the deal, as a former competitive senior level figure skater, I definitely feel for her… she’s such a talented skater and I wish her all the best. But letting her compete ruins the integrity of the sport and the Olympic Games due to the fact that others have been banned in the past, plus I don’t know another sport that would make such a decision this way. Unless the “powers that be” plan on being equitable/fair with everyone going forward and allowing everyone to compete despite whatever drug turns up positive and regardless of where the athlete is coming from, then fine… otherwise, she shouldn’t skate. Or she can skate but cannot be placed meaning her skate is just for show/exhibition.
Also I might get so much hate for saying this but blaming a family member for taking the wrong medication is KIND OF like Ted Cruz blaming his kids for going to Mexico during the crisis that happened in Texas a while back (not saying it’s the exact same thing but it’s kind of similar). I think it’s time they raise the age limit to 18 so we have women competing who know how to hold themselves accountable… 🥺
Why feel for her? She's doping. She's been in the testing pool for years.
@@veganpotterthevegan probably because she doesn't have a say in what the adults in the training team give to her. Still, extremely disrespectful to those clean athletes for her to be allowed to skate.
This is literally the same regurgitated b.s. that so many other self-righteous commentators have said. You probably even believe it makes you reasonable, fair, and well-measured. What it really makes you looki like is an opportunistic, because you're pushing an implication that she's a dope and that her superiority on ice is due to doping. One sample of a trace amount of a heart medication does not a skater make. Even if it was intentional, that med would confer no benefit, especially as a one time thing. All her other tests before and after were negative
@@andyy3596 She can admit she doped and ask to be suspended. She can not skate. Kids have done bigger things in terms of coming out honestly. That said, for all we know, she wanted to take everything she thought she could get away with. Doing for teens isn't actually that uncommon.
totally agree with you.
Coming into the Olympics, this “protected person” is FIRST and FOREMOST, an ATHLETE. Hence, she is bound by the rules and standards expected of EVERY SINGLE athlete competing in the Olympics. A positive test for any banned substance should automatically disqualify her as an Olympian. It is disgusting how she can STILL be allowed to compete just because she is “protected.” This devaluates everything that the Olympics stands for!
They broke the rules with timing of her test. It should have been delivered a month ago. Thus she stays. And stop politics in sport, you hate the girl just because she is from the wrong country. No doping can simulate her grace, no doping can help you landing jumps.
Her coaches are responsible for this !!!
@@bluecuracao6478First, there is no politics here. Only rules and standards that every athlete (and his/her team) must uphold. Second, we don’t hate the girl. In fact, it was such a pleasure to watch her. That’s a foul strike for you to say we hate her. Third, the country she hails from is a repeat offender for the same violation. It is you who says she is from the “wrong country.” Hence, YOU are the one politicizing this. Fourth, her grace, her lines, and her jumps are absolutely exceptional. No contest. Yet, it doesn’t change the fact that she tested POSITIVE for a banned substance. An evidently clear violation of Olympic rules and standards. And so she stays. An insult to all other athletes who came into the competition clean before and all the way through the games.
@@bluecuracao6478
Please stop! This has nothing to do with politics, and it's asinine to say that anyone "hates the girl".
Rules are rules, and to BEND them for ONE person is an insult to all the other Olympians who've dedicated their lives, drug free!
@@rolandoalvarez4007 как насчёт норвежцев 🤷🏻♀️ без своих препаратов эти астматики слетели с пьедестала 😃😂✌️ куда смотрит Мок и ВАДА ? Им это неинтересно? Или делают вид что это нормально ? Уже весь мир смеётся над Мок и ВАДА 🤣😆😁😄😃 что ещё придумают отношении Росиии , а наши фигуристки как выступали прекрасно так и будут выступать!!!! Пора уже успокоиться и заткнуться👌
She broke the rules she should not be allowed to compete. She is old enough to be in the Olympics she knows the rules! They get tested from a very young age and know what's going on.
She is a great skater but she broke the rules so she should be out. Holding up the metal ceremony because of her is wrong, it's not fair to the other skaters who followed the rules!
Violated the rules of WADA by not providing the results of the inspection within 20 days. She even he can open the B sample to justify himself, since for this you need to fly to Stockholm. WADA must be held accountable. And pay moral damage to Camila in the amount of $ 50 million.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
In women's singles, you only want to watch Russians. And some Japanese women.
Grandfather’s heart medication?! Make it fair and let all the athletes take their grandparents medications and win gold!!!
She had a POSITIVE test. Yet she’s allowed to compete? Wtf
The positive test was for a different competition. She has a negative test for olympics.
@@tomwilson666 Yes, but that doesn't make her clean of doping
I don't get it either!
Yeah, heart medicine from 2 months can help her jump higher and skate beautifully lol!
yeah cope harder, you're just jealous of her success lol crying whiners
I guess rules no longer and consequences no longer apply.
The other olympians should protest this seriously…they work hard and actually stay clean. She is young and can still do well in the future Olympics but that’s so unfair towards the others who have put their all in to stay clean
I agree. Imo Id say everyone should refuse to compete in order to force the committees hand.
Other athletes can't reach her level even if they dope themselves to death. She is just better.
@@anastasiya4267 Yup, she's better BECAUSE she's using ENHANCEMENT DRUGS!
@@anastasiya4267 looking forward to her not receiving a medal for positive drug use, she’ll be known in Olympic history as another cheater that ruined it for others
@@memememe3814 can you prove that, clown? Your opinion is worthless and not a fact.
I always knew the Olympics was corrupt, but this makes it glaringly obvious. This is the first time in decades I am not watching women's skating.
I watched men's and I said PEACE.
Honestly, Noone cares. We also don't watch anyone except Russians. Others are week and boring.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Let's make a single rule for everyone: no illegal drugs can be in the possession of athletes participating in international competitions (no medical exceptions like Serena Williams or Norwegian skiers ...) If we are talking about rules - they should work for everyone without exception! Why were the deadlines for performing test analyzes violated? Where is the guarantee that nothing was added to the tests? Why does information appear in newspapers before official documents are published? Because the rights of athletes are constantly violated. Looking at Camila, I can say for sure - she does not need doping to win!
@@garryski3457 Thank you.
And yet a small amount of weed bans a potentially gold winning young black woman. Nice look guys, that'll age well in humanity's eyes.
Race card played.. Nice..
@@joeschmuckatelli3198 they played the race card first
A banned substance is a banned substance no matter race.
@@kathleenkeeley3194 why you have to bring logic in this?
Potential gold?😃😃😃 JAMAICAN GIRLS WILL HAVE A GOOD LAUGH 👍
The results are a shame. The delay is a scandal! Enough about the results. Tell me about how you forgot/ missed this sample!!! Why didn't you follow up if her results from Christmas were missing?! You just had to humiliate Kamila :/
Plain and simple she should be suspended and she is ruining it for all other competitors by not being able to have the medal ceremony
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
Poor Camila…
she just should have created an imaginary migraine and take drugs legally like American athletes do.
D O P I N G
Poor excuse!!!!😅😅😅😅😅
She isn't qualified to attend the competition. So many athletes put so much effort without any drug help. It is absolutely unfair And her coaches should be responsible for the problem plus other skaters taught by them need to be tested coz there are lots of suspicious matters under their system.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
If you don't disqualify this, you'll get more doping in the future and it's against the fairness of the Olympics. I've been practicing hard for 4 years. If only the one who doped stands out, I'd do that too.
Almost six years ago, American gymnast Christine Sheldibine tested
positive for doping. It showed extremely low levels of a banned diuretic. It
turned out that the substance had entered her system with tap water,
which she drank directly from the tap. Did American officials then blame -
as they did in the case of Kamila Valiyeva's sample - the entire system for
what happened? No, no punishment was
imposed on the athlete and she performed at the Olympics.
There have been at least 25 anti-doping
investigations in the U. S. since 2016 that have ended without penalty.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
We need to eradicate doping. In the future, young people will suffer even more. Figure skating is becoming a circus, not an art.
She only 15! They should suspend Her on this one and let Her back next time if She stay clean!
Just Think about all the kids around her age and you will see what different …..
She shouldn’t be allowed to compete such a disgrace
no one asked for your opinion
Katie William you're a disgrace for to the world, and your family. You're pathetic excuse and disgrace of a human.
Katie Williams you shouldn't be allowed to speak
I feel sorry for her, because everything is decided for her by the coaches and she's still very talented. But it's not fair that she's at the Olympics IF she used doping during other competitions that she won which made it possible to go to the Olympics..
the drugs are also used more importantly training to help a person do more reps/day and recover faster. being on those drugs for years leads to years of increased training compared to non-doped athletes that creates a strong difference once you compete.
Неужели вы думаете, что она не победила бы эти соревнования без этого допинга? Вы читали про то вещество, которое у нее нашли? От него не прыгают четверные и не тянут носок, это просто тупая лажа.
@@2002babayв любом случае это нарушение правил и такого не должно быть, но я не отрицаю что Валиева очень талантлива.
@@ririzukachan Я сам против допинга в любой форме. Считаю, что попался с допингом - пожизненное лишение права принимать участие в соревнованиях. Только так можно эту проблему решить, но в данном конкретном случае налицо подстава, она была и без этого очень сильной. Даже в данном случае я бы согласился на пожизненный запрет, но с условием такого же запрета для всех без исключений. Было бы очень обидно потерять самую лучшую фигуристку за всю историю человечества, но честно ли это по отношению к нам, к болельщикам, когда мы знаем, как судят откровенных нарушителей. Я не смотрю биатлон, поскольку знаю, что наши спортсмены осознанно шли на этот беспредел, они добились того, что я не верю ни одному лыжнику и ни одному биатлонисту, могут поставить себе горшок на голову за успех.
She is undeniably talented. But it's either all or nothing. Otherwise the integrity of the anti-doping organization is not upheld. Why would her age be any excuse? I don't care if you were unknowingly given the drugs or not - the people surrounding her who did so would not receive any glory if they know the standards do not regard young age as a way to pass through the system. And it is not only unfair to the rest of the competition, it also sets a bad example for the future of competition in knowing people can get away with it under the right circumstances.
She's a RUSSIAN CHEAT. Pure and simple. Putin's government sponsored doping program that's been on going since probably the 1950's. Russian athlete = PED's. Btw, this Russian Doping scandal at the Olympics is keeping us DISTRACTED while her dictator president Putin prepares to invade Ukraine.
i believe that the coach does some bad things to these girls and i don’t think anyone should blame kamila. i do think she should however be taken out of the olympics this year. or at least not be scored.
no one is taking away or diminishing her talent, it stands on its own and is clear to anyone watching how insanely clean and gorgeous of a dancer she is. she should get the chance to show it off at the next winter olmpics but the roc will not learn anything if kamila still competes in this one. there is no punishment with her still competing.
i absolutely love her dancing and will continue to watch/support her throughout her whole career, she’s just so special but the adults who failed her need to be punished and blamed.
A lot of bigotry and racism in this thread.
Damned stupid foreigners rotten from the inside especially y’alls brains can’t even think for themselves the medicine that she took in no way can improve her performance 🙄🤡
@@KnowTrentTimoy It's not about sport, this is politics, as so many people like you hate Russians and Russia we know which governments act meanly and provocative. This is not doping this is jealous and it was done in vitro for: 1 - to humiliate Russia, 2 - raise the skaters age, 3 - to ban Tutberidze. That's what we Russians feel from you. If you say "She's a Russian cheat" it means you're looking in the mirror and you see yourself there. We never say about countless medical exceptions what your athletes have, but this is a real doping.
Regardless of her age and her excellent talent, it is very wrong. Letting her skate is like slapping on the faces of all the skaters and hurting the legacy of Olympics games. Anyone who was selected to attend the Olympic games, regardless of ages, should take the responsibility of the cleanness of her body seriously. At the 2014 Sochi, what happened to the Russian team? Still not learning the lesson? Kamila is still young and has a longer life of future, so there is no need to give her a sympathy. She needs to learn to follow the rules. And she can come back in the clean body in the future games. But not now, not like this. It is so unjust and unfair to others skaters who followed the rules and came here to compete on the fair and equal ground.
>Kamila is still young and has a longer life of future
She will 19 in the next olympics, jacka s. And that is relatively old age for figure skaters. Your argument is invalid.
> She needs to learn to follow the rules
She's just a child, she isn't responsible for it. Her coach is. You cant' do anything other than being jealous because little15 yo girl is beating older competitors.
None of the other competitors are necessarily clean. It just happens that this particular substance has been banned since 2014. She only mixed up medications because she was doping heavily on the LEGAL side and one of grandfather's meds slipped in, just as she says. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if most athletes do dope "legally" and have to constantly monitor the list of banned substances. It's not her fault and the whole system is messed up.
She didn't need any drug to enhance her ability, she is over qualified in her performances. And why was she the only one given and not the entire Eteri team. Was she framed up?
Trust me, they are all taking stuff. Valieva just has the bad luck of having been caught.
This is my question also, the Russian team is a big team, why would only 1 be doping?
@@orangeziggy348 because she is a threat to american pride
@@russki1978 source: trust me bro
yeaahh right I am sure your opinion is worthy as a fact and really hope someone believes you and your worthless opinion
@@russki1978 Why should we trust you?
Going against the grain here. So if she tested positive for doping back in December, why didn't she get disqualified before the Olympics even started? Did they just get the test results in last week? The timing of this scandal seems unusual, as if it had been meticulously placed for this kind of drama. But controversy and shock drama aside, watching Kamila Valieva skate is enchanting and magical. I'm not discrediting the hard work the other clean figure skaters have put into this competition. It must have felt unfair and unjust but a little empathy and understanding for how much pressure and attention is being flooded onto Kamila...imagine the psychological trauma that must leave behind. Hopefully this doesn't break her but she'll bounce back better than ever.
Because her coaches didn’t mark the sample as “urgent,” which they were supposed to do knowing she was headed to the Olympics.
I was thinking that it might be possible that the sample they tested was contaminated or mixed up. But then instead of denying that she ever took drugs, she came up with “it got mixed with grandpa’s meds”.
💯 had the same reaction until I heard that excuse
It looks like whole family shares grandpa’s medicine🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She probably hasnt seen her family in a very long time. I may be wrong but isolation is a control tactic.
That came from media and attorneys, not her
Even if she did get the wrong dose of heart medicine, it was still her error, or the error of her coaches, and she should be disqualified.
Dear Russian friends who read this post, I am French and do not speak a word of Russian, so I express myself in English.
You must Know that you are not alone in the face of the big Anglo-Saxon propaganda which takes advantage of Valieva's misfortunes to accuse you.
Many people in France are seriously beginning to be fed up with this American propaganda that is imposed on us all year round.
We haven't forgotten that you spoke French at the Tsar's court.
I hope we will do this great europe again, which goes from brest (in france) to vladivostok.
In the meantime, I wish the best to this wonderful Kamila Valieva and the worst to those who are hounding this fifteen-year-old girl.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Thank you Jacques! I hope that France will be strong and will not loose own culture , will not forget own great history… ✊ and our Kamila is a talent, our whole country supports her, people like you support her… thank you!!
If you’re French leftist and most of French people think this way , you’re on best way to become a satellite republic of Russia. And believe me it’s not sweet freedom.
@@utahdan231 Hello, you don't know French politics. The French on the right are on the contrary for a more balanced policy between the United States and Russia, and therefore to stop spitting on the Russians as our current president (MACRON) does, who is a poodle of Uncle Sam.
@@atoukoi yes , I know your politics and I know your history , especially WW2 where French let die tens of thousands of people collaborating with Germans in your “most romantic”city. You sound pathetic and dangerous with your dreams to built Europe from France to Vladivostok. You must be very young or very naive adoring Russia.
She should not be allowed to compete. Period.
the court ruled otherwise! Please, respect the court.
@@olyakush no
Cheater .... her excuse shows she’s all in on the doping ... the integrity is over
What people overlook is that this is not the end.
If they find that she did violate the rules they will take away her medal (if any).
She was allowed to compete because apparently there was no time for her to appeal the test.
The most probable outcome is she provisionally wins a medal, and then she loses the appeal and thus loses the medal.
Then the medal she wins for 2022 is lost forever
@@mikemekonen Yes, I would think so.
it is not her fault that WADA has manupilated the test results. If she wins, she won't be stripped of the medal as she is still a minor. Same rules will apply.
None of the other competitors are necessarily clean. It just happens that this particular substance has been banned since 2014. She only mixed up medications because she was doping heavily on the LEGAL side and one of grandfather's meds slipped in, just as she says. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if most athletes do dope "legally" and have to constantly monitor the list of banned substances. It's not her fault and the whole system is messed up.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
Damn, someone told her too say she accidentally took her grandfathers heart medication. Feel bad for this young girl.
REALLY??? ARE YOU RUSSIAN??? SHE HAD 3 HEART MEDICATIONS IN HER SYSTEM. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE AN ACCIDENT?
@@poshpetals6551 she's fifteen years old, she's still a kid. Kids make bad decisions. Although I doubt it was her idea too take this medication.
Apparently her coach is a real gem, exploiting and abusing these young women for her massive ego trip.
The lamest excuse I've heard since Eric Garcetti said he didn't exhale without a mask.
@@ww2remembered983 who knows the long term effects this could have on her. Let alone the wear and tear on her body during this insane moves. There'd a reason other women can't do these kind of moves.
This is so much bigger than one skater, and a sublime and extraordinary one at that! She strikes me as a good kid, but the trouble is the systematic feeding of whatever drugs to all these kids, presented as supplements to the entire Tutberidze squad by domineering adult coaching staff, including an anesthesiologist who has ADMITTED to researching illegal drugs for performance enhancement and who was already implicated in doping!!! Not only does the tender age of Tutberidze skaters make them more able to drive to ever greater and tougher physical feats (albeit at the expense of their health after the expiration date of 17 years of age), but I'm certain it makes them easier to boss around and force to fall in line.
The fact is that there was no systematic feeding. The drug was found in only one of many thousands of her samples taken during her sports career. Many in the West don't want to hear this. Russian girls are so good that some other nations perceive Russia's superiority in figure skating as a personal insult and try to present this single positive test of Kamila as evidence that Russians achieve their victories not with work and talent, but with the help of pharma.
Some of them are abused, at least in China they are.
Right? It's wild all these people are blaming this kid. As if these coaches don't make every single decision for her. Tutberidze openly admits to keeping kids away for their parents for years at a time because the kids will be more obedient to her, and she can make them practice on the ice for twelve hours a day. Many of these Russian kids are shamed about their weight, and even starved- Tutberidze praised one teen athlete for 'not obsessing about food like the others' being docile about eating 'two shrimp' for dinner, putting them on liquid diets and other extreme weight-control measures that stunt their development and make their bones brittle. In a climate like this, how reasonable is it to think that they can say 'no' to these pills. Its a completely authoritarian system, and these kids are thought of as a 'product' of their coaches technique, and not as human beings with their lives ahead of them.
If we want athlete's who are fully responsible for everything that goes into their bodies, we should be demanding adult performers instead of skaters in their early teens. That age limit needs to be raised. 18?
@@valerie8217 What are you taking about? Russia will be kicked out of Olympics entirely for their doping.
it’s a disgrace to Olympic. it no longer holds the meaning. shouldn’t have competed if she had some dignity left. feels bad for all the other skaters who had to compete with her
But at least Putin rolled back the tanks after she was cleared to skate. 😂
🤣🤣
Pretty sure we are not getting the full story. What medication or indicator was it determined flagged for doping? What heart medication was found?
TMZ (Trimetazidine) which was banned since 2014 for both in and out of competitions.
Trimetazadine. It's for angina (chest pain) and is banned in competition because it allows for more oxygen in the blood, increasing performance. Russians are also known to look for an create drugs to give their athletes that will not show on doping tests.
A PED was higher than was allowed on one level . The level never supposed to be slightly higher for a 15 year old. Fur coats will be arriving soon to these arbitrators and it’s just sad.
It's a Steroid she was taking...
The full story we're missing is the line the drugs took to get to her. That's it. We know she cheated though
I know she's a child, but she's been an athlete for most of her life & performed in similar large competitions for many years. She knows it's bad and not allowed. Her coaches should also be held accountable. I agree that if you're going to compete in the Olympics with by default, mainly adults, then you should be treated and judged in the same manner.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
I dont understand the scandal... so if she used a banned drug in december, then she should never compete later?
Can we have ONE OLYMPIC GAME where Russia isnt involved in doping. Very selfish to the other skaters
Answer is simping NO. lol. They have done it over and over again and they will continue. They got away since 2014. IOC should take all their gold medals back and give them to silver medalists.
this is not doping, and her guilt has not been proven and there is no need to accuse Russian athletes of doping when their guilt has not been proven!
@@user_sirius777 she tested pos for a banned substance. How is that not proven?
@@Морозов-ь7с she is so talented. May be one of the best ever. However, she is just another product for Camp Tuberidze. ET birthed her daughter in the states, gave her an american name and could have made much more money here. The problem: ET knows that the US would never promote and allow the doping of young girls . Its abusive and morally wrong.
When they don’t dope their athletes, they find other ways to steal the medals, look at Sotnikova in Sochi 2014 and the multiple scandals in Rhythmic Gymnastics. I like watching them, but that mafia attitude destroys the sports.
Go Camila!! Doping or not, she's the world's best skater by Leaps and Bounds. You can take away her quads and she still is the best skater in the world. She floats on the ice. No one can touch her. Even if other skaters dope, they still could not touch her she's that good
She is the best skater ever.
Hahahahaha!!! Accidentally Used Grandpa’s medicine. That’s brilliant!
I take medicine also used for epilepsy lol.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
Russia is still under scrutiny for their Sochi doping scandle. I feel like it would be very strange to once again play these kinds of games. I'm more likely to agree that their was some kind of a mixup.
A mix up?? Hahahaha, what 15 year old 'world class athlete' has to take THREE heart medications, or whatever the huck they are?? You must be a Trump supporter... He's a pure as the driven snow and would never, lie, steal, or especially cheat!!
They have 2 samples and it was tested by another lab. They are disputing the test results they are playing the minor card. Russia is good at finding technicalities. Still the IOC has banned athletes with far less and yet this is allowed. Seriously the other skaters should protest because they are going to miss out of the awards ceremony if she gets a medal and they do too.
SOTNIKOVA WAS DOPING POSITIVE. CHEATING RUSSIANS
@@ww2remembered983 no, we are Simone Biles supporters.
@@ww2remembered983 Why three? Two of them are legal.
She is the best skater the world ever seen. The experts are working on verification of the only positive test on December 25 with a TRACE of banned medication. All the other tests before and after are negative. She doesn’t need a drug. Who else can skate as she does even they take a ton of drugs ?
you should see a Psychiatrist if you aren't already doing so.
You are right 100%
Sorry but that excuse is pathetic. If she's truly clean there should be absolutely no trace of the drug in any of the samples. That's why they take multiple samples, because if an athlete has taken the drug ahead of time it might not show up in every one. She's a doper, plain and simple, and should be banned.
She should not be qualified to represent Russia as she was positive at the time of Russian nationals.
PERFECTLY possible to get mixed up. I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years, and in all that time I've NEVER seen ANYONE use a cloth to dry stuff after washing up, it's ALWAYS left to dry on its own. The amount of TMZ in her sample was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. Infected cup ?? ABSOLUTELY possible given the 2.1 parts in a billion that was detected.
And how do Americans, all so honest, who are for honest sports, feel about the fact that their athletes drink drugs, saying that a doctor prescribed it to them? But wait, legal or not, you drink drugs that make you stronger and you win, but WADA says it's all right, it's legal. Is it fair to other athletes who come out already knowing that you took drugs and they won't beat you? No, it's as unfair as doing it covertly, but you keep doing it and it's no less depressing for your opponents. You are talking about honesty and fairness, but are you honest yourself after the whole world learned last year that many athletes from the US and other countries are taking drugs that are banned by WADA? After the sanctions of Japan last year, Biles showed a poor result, without her drugs, refused to continue, she proved by this that they helped her to take high places. Let's take all her medals, just like everyone who drinks drugs, even if it's for health. It will be honest and fair if the sick will perform in the Paralympic sport, and not with healthy ones))) And it’s too cunningly they came up with someone who has a migraine, she drinks medicine for migraine, but it increases her physical data. Is it fair? No. In such rules there is no honesty and integrity. I won't be surprised if all countries have their own laboratories that make new drugs that are not on the WADA list. I'm sure. Why, before Sochi, Russians were not caught so often on drugs, and after Sochi, Russians all decide to actively drink them? This is strange, very strange. I wonder which country will be the culprit of such scandals next? Which country will stand in the way of the United States to medals ... if the world still remains as it is now?)))))
I need specific examples and specific drugs please, because so far I have nothing.
Russia has already been banned from the Olympics, maybe they should... actually be banned.
why u explaining all this to this stupid fake nation?? let them believe to everything they've been told from tv. I've been living there for 4 years and those people literally have 0 critical thinking and they like to blame other countries.
@@offlong You are absolutely right. The people of this country are no longer capable of critical thinking. Their opinions are easily manipulated by their government, party leaders, political elite and the media. They, like little children, trust everything negative that they are told about other peoples, because the conflicts inside their country are so deep that it is necessary to create an image of an enemy outside of it in order to reduce the intensity inside. They are not curious, and they are not interested in the world outside their country.
@@offlong Stupid fake nation but you lived there for 4 years. Sounds like you liked it. LOL. Haters in every alley.
@@valerie8217 if you were truly a critical thinker you would see that we are all humans first and what country we happen to be from is a very superficial thing, no different than one's color or culture. To stereotype is being no better than those you criticize.
this is a question about doping, the people who are doing this should investigate, according to the law, especially since there was no doping in her blood, and the microdose could accidentally turn out to be really in her blood, or someone could put this doping in Valieva's test... the guilt has not been proven , especially since she is a minor !
A transgender man can compete with women, asthmatics can inhale salbutamol in terms of importance, although this is an outright dope. This girl Valieva cannot be trimetazidine, despite the fact that even if she faced a risk (even though it is meaningless), it does not manifest itself in any way on the results in figure skating. In the US, a whole fleet of athletes involves doping. Where is pure sport here? Modern WADA has frankly discredited itself.
So why she took it?
No matter who it is, how old, how young, what conditions,etc,etc....those who compete on the Olympic playing field are all treated equal. To use her age in this way is just wrong.
On a human level, I certainly feel for her. But that has nothing to do with the rules of these games if they are to be played fairly....which apparently they aren't. This whole Olympics this year has been a debacle from the get go.
IF SHE'S OLD ENOUGH TO COMPETE AS AN ADULT SHE'S OLD ENOUGH TO ABIDE BY THE RULES LIKE AN ADULT.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
If it really is a one-time mix-up, check her hair. It looks long enough to speak for her.
How in the world could anyone believe this could be a mixup with grandpa's heart medication, right!😬 This young woman is clearly very talented; she certainly was my favorite! I didn't watch today though because what has happened is very wrong, impacted too many other athletes and will taint these games forever!😥 Russia needs to be held accountable for this incident and past issues.
I completely agree with you. I believe that the main reason why they haven’t punished her yet is do to the conflict in Ukraine-Russia. This could easily be the catalyst that leads to Russia invading Ukraine if things go sideways.
@@sijdnsd6460 I said that very thing to my husband tonight sadly. 😬
I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years. In ALL that time I've NEVER seen one person EVER use a cloth to dry stuff after washing. It is always left to dry on its own. It IS PERFECTLY possible that Kamila drank from an infected cup.
Russians also believe it's a plot by America to try and get rid of her 🤣 It's not even a popular sport here, we don't base our whole identity on it like they do. We have nothing to do with her positive test that was checked in SWEDEN. lol 😆
@@melgonz.6962 Ice Skating IS huge in the USA, and for many OG they prided themselves on the golds that the solo ladies won. But their solo girls have now been absolutely blown away for the last 3 OG in a row by Russia, no wonder the US is full of sour grapes.
Stop bullying her, she's 15 year old girl.
just tell me honestly that you are tired of seeing Russian figure skaters at international competitions ... admit it , but there is no need to break the fate of an innocent 15 - year - old girl who has gone a long way to success with her work
Girl Russian skaters are my favorite, but this is bad, even for Kamila, if you like her you should also criticize the coaches that gave her substances. I despise Tutberidze after seeing what happens to Lipnitskaia. How can you support the systematic destruction of little girls body’s just to get a medal?
@@carocard7074 exactly. I remember what happened with Yulia and her anorexia and leg cramps. Absolutely tragic.
@@AnotherOpinionatedIdiot stay pressed and bitter pathetic jealous foreigner
@@AnotherOpinionatedIdiot
Cope harder, murica shill. You'll never be able to beat them in figure skating.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
The Olympics is an adult event so why are kids competing against adults? The world must draw a line when it comes to age. America doesn't allow 15 year old kids to play in professional sports, so why are kids competing in the Olympics? When you mix kids with adults it always goes bad just like it did here with adults providing this little girl with drugs. Must be 16 years old to compete at the Olympics!
Камила допущена судом до соревнований из-за ошибок допущенных ВАДА.
Защищенная персона это только о том, что информация о расследовании не должна была попасть в прессу, а главный подозреваемый это тренер.
Олимпийский комитет, до момента пока не будет закончено расследование и Камила не будет оправдана, отложит церемонию награждения.
Для гипотетической ситуации если Камила не будет оправдана, квалификацию расширили на одну дополнительную участницу.
Это все.
This says loud and clear that cheaters do win, and that child exploitation is good.
2nd Sample will be positive also.. hence the grandfather BS story, lol.. She has been locked up at a training camp for years, probably doesn't even know what her Grandfather looks like.
PERFECTLY possible to get mixed up. I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years, and in all that time I've NEVER seen ANYONE use a cloth to dry stuff after washing up, it's ALWAYS left to dry on its own. The amount of TMZ in her sample was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. Infected cup ?? ABSOLUTELY possible given the 2.1 parts in a billion that was detected.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
She tested positive, slightly above detection limit only once, never before, and never after. She has the right as a young woman to defend herself, use sample B from the time (december 25) or being punished in due process. I think the people who are mostly at fault here, damaging everyone in the competition is the testing agency, producing a report only after 6 weeks (should have been enough to produce her genome map). And it was the day after the Olympic team event! Please note, that Russia has 3 athlete hopefuls for medal in female single event. The Russian team could have replaced her and still could have had a high chance to win the team gold (perhaps by less than 7.5 points). So it is only the US and Japanese skating team who benefits from the delay and the chaos resulting from this saga. It is unfortunate that the rhetoric and attitude of the mainstream US media (like CNN in this case) suggests that the Olympic games is a war and not a celebration of sports. (Eileen Gu and Fox lies channel being a good example) While it is critical to fight doping, and punish if proven guilty, but only through due process, and rushed decisions pressured by media (and nationalist steam) should not destroy the spirit of a young woman. I am glad this decision was made, Valieva can show her talent to the world. Whether the medal will be hers at the end, we have to see, but I think the world will benefit from seeing her art. It is important to note, that having this substance in your body in trace amounts for a short period of time (maximum for a week in this case) will not result in unfair disadvantage of oxygen saturation of the bloodstream during training, which this drug could do if taken for a long period of time. Nobody is accusing her of doing that. So I am not convinced that this december test (if true) means horrible cheating and doping, as suggested by the media, and certainly doesn't make her more flexible, artistic, or land a quad jump. So, I think she qualifies for the benefit of my doubt and I am very glad that she was not further humiliated and sent home. She deserves her run, and we will see how it will all play out.
they got caught cheating! What is so difficult to comprehend?
Regarding the amount of TMZ, it was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao.
The biggest amount of shame in the women's skating is the light years difference in technical ability between the 'Quad Squad' and the rest of the field. Compared to them, the rest of the skaters are a total embarrassment, (and we all know how much the USA hates to be embarrassed at anything, since they consider themselves to be the best in the world at everything).
@@user-ui6kv2np8i she tested positive, "to put in in perspective": I used to perform radioimmunoassay lab tests, very sensitive tests which detect extremely small quantities of substances. The amount detected may be small, but still detected, meaning it was present! Keep in mind trimetazidine has an elimination half life of only 6 hours, which means every 6 hours half the dose is eliminated. The illegal drug should have tested ZERO, not difficult to comprehend! They knew testing would take place and likely stopped the doping before the tests, believing it would clear the system enough to be undetectable. Fact is THEY GOT CAUGHT! PERIOD! CHEATERS!!!!!
Yes
I guess it's legal to let skaters use drugs now. It's a pathectic win. So sad for the clean skaters.
Russians in China! What did you expect?
The Valieva Maneuver is awesome! You can do it too! Go to any Russian Olympic training camp and they’ll teach you how. Just bring your grandpa’s TMZ with you.
@UC92_h2REwkQCFJ78B0zFsRg only a doped-up Valieva can jump like that. She was high as a kite when she performed.
My opinion after watching her performance is that I’m glad they had the sense to let her compete. It was one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen, so captivating and emotionally moving. They should definitely take her medals away afterwards for the sake of the Olympics but I’m glad they let that piece be performed.
Where can I watch her short program? No matter what I type, the only thing that comes up are videos talking about the controversy surrounding her...
@@13ghosts18 IMO - It was a good performance, but a couple did just as beautifully.
In case you can't find her short program (spoiler alert), she FELL and still go the highest score (scored on top)!
They will take her medal away ONLY if she is proven to have taken the meds. But she will prove all those who are now attacking her wrong and she will be the most celebrated female figure skater in history, especially given all the psychological pressure she had to endure in the last couple of days.
@Grilled Trout jealous animal is jealous.
@Grilled Trout she is still better human than you'll ever be, lazy 260lbs+ dude sitting in front of TV while being unproductive
Kamila is the greatest athlete in her field, past and present.
(with the help of doping)
@@iderok5368 Are you suggesting she tested positive for a banned substance during the Winter Olympics?
With cheating taking drugs.
@@JuYong_Lee No. She wasn’t cheating. She slapped the top scoring Japanese athlete by almost TEN points yesterday. She will slap the rest of them again in the free skating program soon again. All while jealous and envious scumbags shriek “doping” without any evidence whatsoever.
Disagree with that! Plenty of other skaters in the past have been just as breathtaking. I have been watching FS since the 80's. Are you saying past medalist are not as relevent ?
The one thing we can all agree on is she didn't take it deliberately herself.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
What an embarrassment.... I would he so embarrassed to even show face.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
@даниэль насыров A Russian defending the decision, ofcourse.
@@lunam4825 rational decision
USA Simone Biles had a pass and has won lots of medals taking Ritalin since forever, she withdrew from japan games because she wasn't allowed to use her Ritalin there lol. In fact, most western athletes suffer from "asthma and allergies" and compete using banned substances with the excuse of their medical conditions. its use is prohibited in sport by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) because it may enhance explosiveness, power, strength or stamina, which something that Simone is very well known by her performance in public.
She hid her medical records until they were leaked. Then she suddenly became an activist for ADHD. In Japan, however, Ritalin is not prescribed for ADHD and you can't bring your own without a permit, which she didn't get. Then she could not complete because she had mental issues lol
Outstanding post, and all true. Yet look how the true cheater Biles is propped up as a hero by the same media in the US which vilifies Valieva
you very smart thanks for the comment
I do agree with the Biles thing, however Kamila here is doing the same.
I would like to see more comments on this. It’s unfortunate that no one seems to care.
Ritalin is a stimulant that improves focus hence why its prescribed for ADHD. It also raises your heart rate and actually reduces stamina. There is a stigma around ADHD in the US and she never hid anything. Everyone in the US has private medical records by law.
why didnt you show the performance?
imagine she ate her grandpas pills on purpose because she is depressed, you never know
Sorry, but the comments of the people defending her doping make me lose faith in humanity, how can people be so dense?
How can YOU be so dense?
Lmao she's winning olympics while you're sitting ur obese 200kg a$s on phone all day while doing nothing in your miserable, shtty life. I pity you.
No decency. For her to know that no other girl will get a medal, any medal, all because of her and she won't just drop out shows absolutely no decency. No moral censor. No soul.
It seems that this world is not worthy of Kamila Valieva. She allowed people to touch the divine gift and witness a miracle, and they are trying to measure her with three steps of a pedestal.
wha? she doped, just like russians always do
Sha'Carri Richardson was disqualified for smoking weed, why on Earth is Kamila allowed to continue competing for actually doping?
I do not understand what is happening now between the United States and Russia, I am apolitical, for me all people on the planet are the same, and it is more important for me to maintain normal communication with every person on planet earth than to quarrel because we are all different
Feel sorry for the other national athlete who lose medal beacuse of her
Every other athlete is SO far behind the 'Quad Squad' in terms of technical ability that they shouldn't even be on the same ice, most of the men can't do quads but these girls do them for fun. In technical terms the rest of the field is an utter embarrassment.
Feel sorry for Korea for such fools in the comments like you
Even if you commit something amazing, you'll be at an award ceremony. Is the referee out of his mind? Figure skating is totally ruined. Russia's Sotnikova and Balieva are all ruined.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified.
@FreedomKeeper
Trimetazidine is an Olympic banned substance. Therefore, I think that all the medals that have been won by the players who have participated so far should be stripped.
this is not proven , and if it is not proven , then you do not need to write an accusation
It has been proved, even Russia media accepted it.
Why have rules and regulations? This whole thing is ridiculous.
If they let her compete because she is underage, they are opening the door for everyone underage to dope.
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
@@freedomkeeper4504 LOL
Russian doping skills rated F.
Only choice was to go home. Any other choice and she loses. You'll see. Ethics 101.
The Japanese and Korean skaters were robbed.
Lol. They were robbed at birth for not being as gifted on ice as Valieva.
@@jason101other If by gifted you mean helped by performance-enhancing drugs, sure.
It’s not even Americans, it’s them. Another Kim Yuna case, but now with Sakamoto. And no, they are as great as Kamila, and without doping 😛
Am I the only one questioning other Russian figure skaters? They are under the same coach and I don't think only Kamilla did doping.
No, you're not alone. I keep saying this to everyone. If Valieva loses her medal, then Shcherbakova will likely take the gold and they will let her have it. Everyone knows she's not clean either.
@@russki1978 you're the definition of joke which is the worst thing happened to your parents. A very bad joke.
@@russki1978 yeah cope harder, you're just jealous of her success lol crying whiners
Re test her again period! Some countries want to put her down because shes the best skater right now in the world .I guess if shes from low level
Country it would not be a great big of a deal!! Politics as always
Not her granpas meds, grasping here. Not buying into this sham!! Let's be above board and have integrity!!!
PERFECTLY possible to get mixed up. I'm a Westerner who has lived in Eastern Europe for the last 18 years, and in all that time I've NEVER seen ANYONE use a cloth to dry stuff after washing up, it's ALWAYS left to dry on its own. The amount of TMZ in her sample was 0.000000021 of 1 gram. To put that into perspective, 1 drop of water weighs 0.033 of 1 gram. In other words, she'd need 1571428 times more TMZ in her system for it to be the equivalent of 1 drop of water. Performance enhancing??? roflmfao. Infected cup ?? ABSOLUTELY possible given the 2.1 parts in a billion that was detected.
If she had any integrity she would drop out, but if she was doping she probably feels she's above the rules.
I would expect her country's government is bullying their way
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
She has tremendous mental strength to perform in that environment. This girl is an amazing talent and shouldn’t be subjected to commentary from lesser skaters.
🤮
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
It's totally unfair and she should 100% be disqualified, but that being said she's the best figure skater I've ever seen. Had she not taken the drugs I believe she would still have easily won gold
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
Where t is Tonya Harding we need her now
Is that the thickness of the neck of a 15-year-old female figure skater? The power of doping is terrifying.
look at her manhands at 0:44
This is heartbreaking to hear, 15 is just a baby to be destroying her body like this
Not fair.
It is especially puzzling since TMZ is forbidden by law to be prescribed for any minor. Why THREE different heart medications? What was the other prescribed medication Kamila Valiyeva claims she mixed up with her grandfather's medication?
When was she diagnosed with a heart condition? Where are the diagnostic test results from those tests: Electrocardiogram (ECG), Stress test, Transthoracic, echocardiogram (echo or TTE), Transesophageal echocardiogram (TEE), Positron emission tomography (PET) scan, Thallium scans or myocardial perfusion scans, Holter monitor, Event recorder, Implantable loop recorder, Tilt table test, Electrophysiology study, Cardiac catheterization (coronary angiogram), MRI of the heart, Cardiac CT scan?!!
her doping test was faked, so that everything was honest, let the laboratories that conduct doping tests do it online so that all participants in the countries can see that everything is honest, how do we know, maybe they put this doping test in a flask, there are no witnesses, except for those who did it this test .. all the more so as it was found out that this is not doping, but a fragment of a microdose of heart medication, unlike Simon Biles, these are not large doses in the medicinal version, which are prohibited and regarded as doping
well i do hope she not taking any of those things or that means she is sick, or worse, she is going to become sick taking those things
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
believe me, timing for test report was really bad.
It has been proven it was Russians fault, not marking her test as urgent.
@@carocard7074 what happen if she was not Russian?
Мок это нацисты
Highly unusual.
Stop with these ridiculous games.
Built in places lately that haven't had snow.
Brazil throwing away all that money when they have so many so impoverished.
Enough of this silliness
You are right. Olympics went on with the Zika virus in Brasil. These people in this olympics should have stayed home, like the rest of us, instead of being international travellers during a pandemic.
Why Is she allowed to skate after she is caught doping but Shacarri Richardson isn't allowed to run track in the Summer Olympics? Oh the Double Standards! This clearly is about race!
I've known of her for years, she's always been amazing and deserving of gold.. I don't believe these medications had any significant impact on her performance
Still, there should be no special treatment in the Olympics
No comment
STILL does not discount the fact that she tested POSITIVE for a banned substance. An evidently clear violation of the Olympic rules and standards expected of every single athlete.
I think the athlete is innocent in this case. No way a 15 years old doped under the table with exact formula. The adults around her have failed her. No way this has happened without the coach and parents approval.
@@hansoullee9231 don't you think if they can get away with this, it will be a repeatable offence in the future? Your are pretty much saying all athletes under 16 can dope as long as their coaches don't tell them
Let her skate. Barry bonds and mark McGwire and roger Clemens still played after being positive
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
I’m sure my post will be unpopular but I’m just going to put my thoughts out there and welcome anyone with meaningful feedback to opine.
First and foremost have I misunderstood that the investigation into her alleged doping is still ongoing and until completed Kamila is only allowed to continue to compete but NO medals will be awarded until the investigation is closed? Assuming I’m correct in my assumption I pose the question to all the competitive athletes out there or anyone who had a once in a life time shot to achieve a dream, wouldn’t you want the same opportunity if in your heart you believed you hadn’t broken the rules?
Kamila is a kid competing for a Country that is notorious for exploiting young athletes all for the glory of bringing home the most Olympic medals. They invest hundreds of thousands in these athletes from a young age and treat them and their families like celebrities. Unlike in the US they can’t just walk away and post on social media they are being exploited and forced to take drugs. Otherwise they and their family members will pay dearly.
Looking back at Kamila’s performances from when she was a child she was always ahead of the curve. She had the poise of a prima ballerina and the athleticism of a world class gymnast from a very young age. She was a natural. Add to that the fearlessness it takes to even attempt a quadruple jump and she already raised the bar. I think it’s safe to say even without the meds that supposedly increase her physical endurance she’d be landing at least one set of quads in her routines and easily executing the triple combos that qualify as highly difficult.
Before the doping allegations even Tara Lipinski described her as quite possibly the best female figure skater ever. At the same age Tara won the gold and was easily a phenom but looking at the two skaters side by side there is a distinct difference in their performances aside from the jumps and it has nothing to do with drugs. Also at 15 I doubt Tara or any other American Olympian had to contend with the national pressure that athletes from Russia and China have on them from the time they are kids. The latter do as their told. Whatever the story Kamila is telling to justify the reason she tested positive with three meds that coincidently aren’t classified as PEDs, I would bet money that it was fed to her by her coaches and just like every other aspect of her performance it’s her job to sell it.
My point is that we are all judging this child on actions that are well beyond her control and whether or not we believe she has the right to win a medal for her performance I think we should be gracious enough to allow her the benefit of the doubt and to participate in the process. For anyone who missed her short program after all this went down, just being able to perform under the microscope knowing that most of the English speaking world is rooting against her is enough to convince me she’s the real deal and if she were representing the USA we’d all be rooting her on.
In women's singles, you only want to watch Russians. And some Japanese women.
She needs to be banned! She took a banned substance and she knows the rules! This is sooo unfair to the other skaters.
We let Men compete as women what's the big deal with a drug??
She shouldnt be there
Are Americans just jealous of her talent? There are currently no American ladies that can even compare.
Yes There’re.
She broke the rules. She should not be able to skate. The end.
That wouldn't be surprising to know that there were other heart medicines involved after her statement that her food might have been contaminated by her grandpa accidentally, especially after hearing that he's got an artificial heart. I thought that pandemic taught people how to be kind to one another and don't jump to conclusions recklessly. Seems like this lesson hasn't been learnt yet, and media is just haunting a kid in search of a new clickable story...so disappointing
I have some swamp land for sale......
Lol yall really believe this joke of an excuse 🤣👵💊
@@melgonz.6962 it's not about believing in it or not. It's easy to check it with B sample and whether this ridiculous thing actually happened. I mean, my COVID tests have been false negative 2 times until it was double checked and confirmed, I ended up having COVID and proper treatment despite the labs mistakes. Those medications they refer to in Valieva's case aren't regarded as doping, for figure skater they can bring more harm especially at that age. That's disturbing, indeed. I'm saying that whether she's guilty or not, it's not for the society as a whole to decide. It's a matter of proceedings and experts with a high level of expertise. Unless it's proven that it, indeed, was the case of violation, treat her and her case with the presumption of innocence like in any other case. It's unfortunate that all events aligned, yet usually athletes have some time to prove their innocence or admit wrongdoing. They just don't have time to do everything at once right now. Both the accusing and defending sides. Plus the flow of event is just unfortunate, especially how people respond to it, well, it's not surprising since it's so controversial
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Trimetazidine accidentally got into Valieva's blood by accident from her grandfather. Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that affects performance officially for medical reasons with the knowledge of Wada. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
Sha Carri was barred from the Olympics but the little Russian gal gets an investigation and still gets to compete? What kind of BS is that?
Trimetazidine cannot affect the results of figure skating. A small dose was found in the analyzes for December. At the time of the competition, all samples are clean. Valieva performs honestly, there is no doping. Valieva had no reason to use it. Valieva's blood accidentally got trimetazidine from her grandfather. In figure skating, the technique of the athlete decides. Show me a tool that improves technique? Therefore, she was allowed to compete. Many athletes use doping that officially affects results for medical reasons, with the knowledge of WADA. In my opinion, they should be disqualified. All this persecution of Valieva is politics, not sport.
@@freedomkeeper4504 the drug is banned and it is banned for a reason. Anyone can say they accidentally ingested it. Just because she is young doesn't mean she is an innocent.
Once in December, a TRAIL of the drug was found. Never before, never after, the drug was found. Including at the time of the performance in February, all tests are clean. Figure skating is a technique. Show me a remedy that can improve technique? Look at her performance, do you really think that trimetazidine helped her to perform? Show me a figure skater who this drug would help win figure skating)). Common sense suggests that there was no need for Valieva to take this medicine. Even if she drank it, this is not a drug that can improve results, this is a drug for treatment.
@@freedomkeeper4504 it doesn't matter. They can't have one set of rules for one person and another set of rules for someone else. She had a banned drug in her system. Period. She was tested shortly before the Olympics just like Sha Carri was. You have all these excuses for this girl who could very well be lying about the "accidental ingestion".
@@freedomkeeper4504 the drug can improve endurance. So it certainly isn't a stretch to think she took the drug with high hopes of making the Olympic team.