here's an idea: whatever multi-billion dollar team (Bears $5.8B, White Sox $2.05B) pays for the stadium without having to ask the public for money gets to build the new stadium! neither of those dog shit teams deserve a new stadium though lol
Oakland fans have every right to feel angry, the way that team is treating them. I get the feeling that when the A's go to Vegas, it's gonna be a huge epic fail altogether.
Vegas will be infinitely better than Oakland. They literally had 3500 fans on their second game… and I know that product is terrible but don’t act like Oakland has a good fan base 😂
@@tyyy4681 True. Oakland has NEVER had a hugs fanbase. And it's never been lower. When the commissioner mocked them when the boycott only turned out 27,000 people, he had a point. I for one cannot imagine the A's EVER being able to consistently sell out the Coliseum... and that's with the 3rd deck and Mt Davis tarped over. The interest simply is not there.
The interest is there. I don’t thing you guys understand how much we’ve been shit on as fans well before the Vegas fiasco. Fans on the outside really don’t understand.
Problem with the Rockies is they just don’t know how to build a team. Built it with pitchers that don’t want to pitch there or with big bats who then don’t play well on the road. Tough place to play for anyone.
Pro sports are teetering on the brink of disaster. When the Kansas City Chiefs (Super Bowl champions) are trying to get a new stadium, it was reported that the fans do not want to pay for it. Can you believe that the team may have to move?. Maybe Taylor can finance a new stadium for them.
4:46 Nah, Jerry ain't spending money. Not next year, not ever. The White Sox situation is very bad right now. It needs more coverage. It's not as bad as the A's technically, but at least the A's get a lot of heat and criticism. Jerry's White Sox seem to escape criticisms, despite being in the third largest city in the US.
The A's are understandable low market team, bad local TV deal, almost no fans to speak of. White Sox have one of the top 5 local TV deals, have decent attendance and a still a half decent ball park.
from the area here; nobody wants to spend a dime on either team's stadium dream. Nope niether team is going to get a dime if most of us can help it. the sox can leave after all this time you own team you build a stadium
Is it possible to just make them play on the road? Granted, the Mariners had to do that in midseason, but it can be done. (Well, the 1899 Spiders too, but... A's aren't even that bad.) Only other option is they're date setting and think the Rapture is here.
I'm a Raiders seasons ticket holder and a 11 game ice pack holder of the Golden Knights. I'm up in Vancouver Canada. From what I gather Vegas isn't all that great a market. I go down to Vegas 2-3 times a year. My Raiders tickets I've always been able to sell. My knights tickets that's another story smh! I've had to give away a few games on occasion.
I’m a huge fan of Sox park, food, beer selection, overall atmosphere is excellent. Newer scoreboard, Miller Lite Landing Zone in RF are amazing seats. Scout Seats & G Rate Club offers a great vip experience. Section 108 rocks too Once a stadium hits 30 years old, why do you need to rebuild? The old Comiskey was 85 years old before being torn down. The G Rate is night & day a better park than that dump Wrigley on the north side.
@@timbarry2743what a moronic take I agreed with the first half but if you knew anything about wrigly field you would know it was completely rennovated and transformed to have modern amenities and it managed to do it while still keep its historic look. It is considered one of the most impressive transformation in the history of stadium renovations. Wrigly is miles better than the Sox stadium.
@@natevart4156 I love waiting an hour to use the filthy bathrooms over there, oh the food is bad, overpriced… yeah… you’re right what a great park lol… good lord….
@@timbarry2743 I don’t rly buy much at a game, wrigly has a way better atmosphere for baseball and you know they re did all the bathroom right and tripled the amount of bathrooms? Your literally just uninformed lmao
I am a life long White Sox fan. But GR Field is only 30 years old and we (the tax payers) are still paying off $50 million in loans. If Reinsdork wants a new stadium, let him go to Nashville. Keep the Sox name in Chicago and bring the Rays here. Reinsdork leaving will be no great loss.
Last year, the White Sox - two years removed from a division title - lost 101 games. This year, they'll be lucky only to lose that many games. What is the definition of "chutzpah?" Asking for taxpayer money for a new ballpark, which they do not need, in an inaccessible area, away from their fan base, when the team appears likely to break the franchise record for most losses in a season (106, achieved in 1970).
Hey they never lost 110 games . The teams pitching and defense has improved but they are 2nd level .The organization has not been run with the best qualified since 2007. This has been their worst era since the 1940's. The positive is Reinsdorf 's ownership is temporary. Hey he's past 80 6:20
Literally stopped watching a minute in when you judged a team by a preseason win total. I was hoping to see crap on my White Sox, but that is just lazy man.
Im a sox fan - we are unbelievably bad. I surveyed offseason moves, kept tabs on the team and we are literally worse than some triple A teams statistically speaking. We WILL lose at least 125 games
I can’t even watch these losers anymore. I’m 40 and this is the worst White Sox team I’ve ever seen. We will definitely lose at least 100 games this year. Get rid of Reinsdorf.
@@JB-42069 I’m glad you followed up lol. I will admit, they are worse than I thought. I still don’t think they’ll lose more than 110. I’m willing to put a lot of money they don’t lose 125. It’s statistically hard to be that bad over such a long season. I’d love to keep following up with you every few weeks along the season in this thread just to measure how bad this team really is haha.
White Sox owner has owned team for 43 years and has won a playoff series in only one of those years! I'm guessing that might be the problem. Jerry has to go he is embarrassing, and he can stick cigar he's always smoking up his ample ass.
Bears owners have zero incentive to make the team better. That stadium is filled no matter how bad we are. Bunch of idiots. Bears and White Sox should both leave.
Being a hardcore Whitesox fan this is unbearable. This team is so unlikeable. They can’t hit. Chicago deserves better. We don’t deserve Clevenger that’s a slap in the face to us.
Family in Chicago that ❤going to White Sox games cause food 🍱 at the stadium 🏟️ is pretty decent. When your at a game with loved 🥰 ones, really don’t care Not Everything is about numbers So, your actually wrong, people did go
They tore those projects down. In the 80s and 90s and before that Comiskey was across the street from the worst neighborhood in America. But now it’s more of a yuppie neighborhood.
I do have a major problem with the White Sox moving team locations that people do not mention Is the White Sox stadium bad yes of the 17 MLB teams I’ve seen a home game for they are by far the worst stadium I have been to so far. However, the issue with the White Sox moving is, they played on that same plot of land since the Camisky opened in 1910
Not only that but the Sox have played continuously in the Midwest since they were a minor league team in the 1880s and 1890s. That would be like taking the Phillies out of Philadelphia or the Red Sox out of Boston
The stadium in Bridgeport could be great with a few major renovations and with some investment in the community around the park. What the Sox need is a new owner who is willing to do what needs to be done
The "train wreck" is the City of Oakland. Its trying to negotiate with the A's and the actual County Authority isn't being invited and in fact is in disagreement with the Mayor's "proposal". You can't negotiate a deal with 2 different government powers who don't agree.
Also Las Vegas is a Dodgers city. There was a private company that did a survey asking who is the MLB team they root for. It came back like 90% was Dodgers... This is going to be an epic fail of unheard of proportions.... LV doesn't even like the Raiders, they like their WNBA team (Aces) more.
that is a lot of made up facts!!! no team has 90% support, even though the Aces have the best attendance in WNBA it's still the WNBA ... nowhere near support for Raiders...... but other than that you are spot on!! ha ha ha
No Vegas is very transient, most of the fans will be out of state coming in for. a weekend to catch a game. They might just not want Fisher. I think he ends up selling but they still move.
A's and White Sox were expected to suck. But the Mets?.....Astros? Ton of pressure on the Mets & Cohen. Their neighbors in the Bronx start off 5-0. Long summer for the Mets.
The entire sport is in trouble. More people watched last nights Women College basketball final four game than watched any game of the 2023 World Series. Let that sink in. People are more interested in women college basketball than the World Series. I love baseball but that’s freaking scary and there’s no way to sugarcoat it. The leagues best player is from Japan and is embroiled in a gambling scandal and Rob Manfred sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it.
@@williamkale8532 oh, it’s coming. The last rights fee MLB signed with ESPN was less than the previous one and according to a report last month they are reportedly leaning towards opting out of its contract with MLB in 2025. MLB is no longer a natonial sport, it’s a regional sport now. The only true national sport left in the US is the NFL. What I mean by that is in the NBA and MLB people watch in big numbers only if their regional team is playing whereas in the NFL people watch in big numbers no matter who’s playing.
Players sent down, benched, traded, let go, ticket prices rising, vindictive ownership, zero investment in the team/stadium, "parallel paths" and folks really wonder WHY attendance is down!!??? #SellTheFknTEAM
The A"s are not responsible for the state of the Coliseum. Ticket prices rising? Have you seen the inflation numbers? Players were not "let go". They wanted to play for more money from teams that had more revenue coming in.
The Athletics will likely have no choice but to play in the Las Vegas minor league ballpark in 2025. As for the White Sox, of they don't get funding for the 78 site, they'll either go to Nashville or Charlotte.
The A's have the worst owner in baseball, the worst stadium in baseball and the worst team in baseball. So I get it. I think their is an issue that doesn't get talked about enough though and that's the problems the Oakland officials who negotiate with MLB and other sports leagues aren't doing Oakland sports fans any favors either. The new proposal from Oakland officials to the A's just for them to be able to spend the next 3-years playing in the worst stadium in baseball: 1) An 1,800% increase on rent. 2) The forced acquisition of millions of tens of millions of dollars of the A's owners private property. 3) The forced acquisition of millions of dollars worth of more of the A's owners private property in the A's brand rights, naming rights and moniker rights or MLB guarantees they will be locked into a long term marriage of negotiating with them forever by either moving a current team there or guaranteeing them an expansion team. All this in exchange for a 3-year lease in the worst stadium in baseball at an 1,800% markup. If Oakland fans want baseball their elected officials are shooting the baseball fans in the foot right now. Other cities don't act this way. Oakland officials are not only losing the A's by negotiating the way they did once the current Mayor took over but they are guaranteeing themselves that MLB will never be willing to negotiate with them again by making such absurd demands and taking so long to negotiate anything. If Oaklanders want an MLB team they shouldn't *only* call out Fisher. The should definitely call out Fisher but they should be calling out their elected officials too. Until that happens major professional sports in Oakland is doomed. Look at how long Oakland officials "negotiated" the Howard Terminal site to keep the A's in Oakland. 6 solid months of negotiations that I only got to that point after years and even decades of attempted negotiations for a new stadium. During all that time Oakland officials couldn't even agree to introduce a stadium funding bill to the assembly. Las Vegas negotiated, agreed to, signed, introduced and passed a stadium funding bill all in less than 2 weeks. Salt Lake City passed a $900M stadium funding bill and they didn't even have anyone offering them a team at all. Sports franchises are going to take the path of least resistance just like most businesses do. Oakland officials seem hell bent on being the path of most resistance. Just look at what I just cited that they are demanding only for a 3-year lease in the worst stadium in baseball. The state of the team is on Fisher. The reason the team is leaving and likely no other team will come back to Oakland is on the elected Oakland officials.
Last Dive Bar is a group of A’s fans trying to keep the team in Oakland. Seriously you didn’t know? You are making me depressed. He got sent down for identifying with this awesome organization. Dude has a great heart and understands how bad the owner is…
A "Dive Bar" sounds romantic but in reality, its not a compliment. Its where poor and down and out people go for a cheap way to get drunk and don't care about the company they are with.
True but the White Sox’s get a boat load of money from their local TV deal they are in the top 5 at least they were. A’s are in the bottom 10. Both have terrible owners. Both are investment bankers not sports guys, so they don’t care to put a decent product on the field they just look at money and dollars. That’s what matters to them.
It's funny because from their spring training, the A's looked like they'd be doing better, but the moment the season starts - BAM! They fail. I feel bad for JD Davis and Lawrence Butler, and even Mitch Spence - they deserve better.
If the A's completely rebeanded and the Athletics name was no longer in baseball, that would be the end for me and every other A's fan. I don't know where people think a Las Vegas A's fanbase is going to come from.
Maybe the Yankees’ could share equally all the local TV money. That’s the disparity and that’s why the Yankees’ can spend billions on contracts and the A’s can’t. It’s not equal.
Chicago doesn't need 2 baseball teams anymore. Illinois is losing population. US demographics are moving south and west. Philadelphia St Louis Boston all had 2 teams at one point too.
I'm a White Sox fan and I agree with you. Let's face it--the Cubs have a "destination ballpark" and the Sox do not. Guaranteed Rate Field isn't a terrible ballpark. It's not a great one either. But that's not the key issue here. Rather, as you say, Illinois is losing population. This leads me to believe that much of the White Sox fan base doesn't live in the Chicagoland Area anymore.
With more than 9 million people in the Chicago metro area, there are more than enough to support two teams. The bigger problem is getting people to come out to the ballpark. Build on the tradition of the franchise, such as the Cubs did. Make the area around the park a destination, like the Cubs did.
As a Vegas resident, if the A’s come here, Fisher fucks off, and the franchise is rebranded, I would support it because it’s no different at this point than an expansion franchise, with a new name, young players, and a whole building process to undergo. The most important part is Fisher fucking off though. He in no way shape or form can be apart of things here in Vegas. Ideally, I would like Bill Foley to invest into the franchise and become the majority owner, because if he does, he ABSOLUTELY would have Vegas’ best interests at heart with the team, and it would be successful! His work as the owner of the VGK has been unbelievable to witness these past 7 years, and I know he would be able to do that too for the A’s if he got the opportunity, and had the desire, to do so!
I'm a 11 game ice pack holder of the golden knights up in Vancouver Canada. As well I have raiders seasons tickets. In all honesty and no offense I've had a difficult time selling my Knights tickets at cost. Raiders tickets sell but my Knights tickets no one wants to give me what I pay for them for the lousier NHL teams that come in to play the Knights. IMHO and no offense cause I come down 2-3 times a year there as I love Vegas but I don't think it is all that good a market from what I gather.
A's to Sacramento as their interim home. Agree should let Oakland keep the A's nickname and come up with a new one so it'll feel more like a Vegas team. How bout the Vegas Platinum Knights?
We just moved to Las Vegas in January 2024 and if they do eventually come here, they should be called something that relates to the area and the politics. How about the Las Vegas Jacks! They totally jack people of their money here regardless of what we do here. Gasoline...Jack, Housing Purchases....Jack, Food...Jack, Car Registration and Driver's License...Jack, Business Licenses....DEFINITELY JACK!!! Yeah there's no state tax here, but they get us with EVERYTHING ELSE! We're moving out of Nevada next year pending a money miracle!
@StormyDomainOh…too bad. A’s and Ace sound almost the same and the fans could have kept calling them the “A’s” and they could’ve still had a change of identity. All kidding aside it would be sad to see the A’s (Athletics) name die. It started as the Philadelphia Athletics in 1901 before moving to KC in ‘55 and then finally Oakland in ‘68. By the time they move to Vegas in ‘27 or whatever, if they change their name, it’ll be the ending of at least a 126 year tradition. And I am not even a fan. I follow the Jays…who just got no hit by a scrub. So I have my own issues! 😂
Athletics is a classic, timeless, unique name that followed the team when they left Philadelphia and Kansas City "Ace" or "Aces" is stupid name for dumb people who think they are smart. "Hey Vegas has gambling! Call them the Aces!" Also North Americans really do overuse the "😂" emoji
@@HoshizakiYoshimasaDid you just learn all the history of the franchise parroting what I just said? If you watched the video I was just making a lighthearted reference to the narrator suggesting the name of the franchise might be changed. Of course any dufus who has followed baseball knows the “Athletics” is a timeless name and should not be changed. I could make silly generalizations about people in Asia too couldn’t I? But of course that wouldn’t be politically correct…. 🤔. OMG there’s another emoji! 😱 and another one! Damned North Americans! 🤣
The franchise wouldn't benefit from leaving Chicago. Whatever the situation is at any given time, it's still the best market to be in from a potential customer base.
If I'm the A's, I'm looking at other options other than Vegas. Nashville Charlotte Utah or San Antonio. I have doubts small TV market Vegas can support 81 home games or keep TV ratings up. It's not American Football where they only play 8 times a year at home. It's not hockey Where they plsy only 40 in a smaller facility during the winter tourist season. MLB is completely different.
Thing about Las Vegas is it is more then just MLB. What I am saying is people will go just for a weekend and catch a game. Depending on the ballpark design it could be a draw. I don't see San Antonio as an option, Rangers and Astros share the rights to Texas so you would be infringing on their rights. Nashville Charlotte Utah could work if Vegas falls apart.
@@scotttildI'm up in Vancouver and there is rumblings about the Arizona Diamondbacks seriously relocating here. Google search it and see all the stories for yourself. I know some people here that know some big business people here locally and I'm being told that the Diamondbacks are going to be relocating here after the season concludes. They too are wanting a new ball park in Arizona and the taxpayers don't want to foot the bill.
And only grow the stereotype that baseball is shrinking in the US? Relocate them to markets who want teams. Contraction of teams shows other leagues you are weak. Anyone who suggests contracting teams is an idiot.
Honest question….I have never been to the “New Comiskey”. I just looked at a video about it, and apparently the concessions are better than Wrigley (I have never been there either but am going in August) and the seats/sight lines from the video at least, I thought looked pretty good. Why is the stadium hated so much? I grew up in Toronto (no longer live there) and went to the Jays first ever game on April 7, 1977 against the Sox in what could be considered the worst dump of a stadium ever, Exhibition (or as we liked to call it Prohibition Stadium - they did not allow beer the first 5 years but that is another story). I no longer live in TO but they are doing a massive reno on Skydome (Rogers Centre - too bad they didn’t think to renovate the name too) and it may bring it back to lower/mid tier. Anyway, apologies for rambling, but I am considering maybe going to Guaranteed Rate (what a name) on the same trip as to Wrigley and debating with all the bad stuff I hear about it…
@@midnightrambler7716 it should have never been built- same goes for Comerica Park in Detroit. Detroit and Chicago had their own Fenway Parks and then *poof* GONE
@@rapalbumdepot7648I can see that. I’ve been to Fenway and Tiger years ago and loved them. They probably could’ve saved the old Yankee Stadium too. I have been to both, but I went to old Yankee Stadium its second last year and from what I hear, it wasn’t the same since the early 70’s renovation. The new one at least kind of holds some of the charm of the old one but it is often heavily criticized too. The bottom line is, it’s almost always a losing proposition to replace one of these shrines. Baltimore managed to pull off a modern gem, but I guess the old Memorial Stadium was never held in very high regard 😂. I never went there either.
Oh…and I have been to the Trop a number of times and it IS horrible! I even saw an NHL game there before the Bolts moved into what was then known as the Ice Palace in 1996 (now Amalie Arena)! THAT was an experience! 😂 But it still isn’t as bad as Exhibition Stadium was.
It's fine to have a handful throughout the summer. They can be good for corporate events during the workday, or summer camp field trips, or a stay at home mom taking her son to a game. But they shouldn't really hold them in April, May or September.
@@rainbowmade1880 Tons of tourists who go to watch their team play. This is what the Golden Knights are doing with hockey, Raiders with football same thing. The locals can do whatever, that's not who they're after in LV
here's an idea: whatever multi-billion dollar team (Bears $5.8B, White Sox $2.05B) pays for the stadium without having to ask the public for money gets to build the new stadium! neither of those dog shit teams deserve a new stadium though lol
White Sox don't need a new ballpark we need new ownership.
Actually nothing wrong with stadium
We actually have one of the most consistently underrated stadiums
yes they do....that location sucks....they should have moved to this potential site back in 91.
Oakland fans have every right to feel angry, the way that team is treating them. I get the feeling that when the A's go to Vegas, it's gonna be a huge epic fail altogether.
Vegas doesn't want them. SLC will probably be a better option if they can get a stadium built
Vegas will be infinitely better than Oakland. They literally had 3500 fans on their second game… and I know that product is terrible but don’t act like Oakland has a good fan base 😂
@@tyyy4681 True. Oakland has NEVER had a hugs fanbase. And it's never been lower. When the commissioner mocked them when the boycott only turned out 27,000 people, he had a point. I for one cannot imagine the A's EVER being able to consistently sell out the Coliseum... and that's with the 3rd deck and Mt Davis tarped over. The interest simply is not there.
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The interest is there. I don’t thing you guys understand how much we’ve been shit on as fans well before the Vegas fiasco. Fans on the outside really don’t understand.
In the movies “Any Given Sunday” and “Major League”, didn’t both owners get into big trouble for trying to relocate their teams illegally?
As a Colorado Rockies fan, I’m offended that we are not included amongst the heavyweight train wrecks of baseball
After today we should.
Problem with the Rockies is they just don’t know how to build a team. Built it with pitchers that don’t want to pitch there or with big bats who then don’t play well on the road. Tough place to play for anyone.
you guys almost beat the cubs yesterday! haha
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Better add the Marlins to that list.
Pro sports are teetering on the brink of disaster. When the Kansas City Chiefs (Super Bowl champions) are trying to get a new stadium, it was reported that the fans do not want to pay for it. Can you believe that the team may have to move?. Maybe Taylor can finance a new stadium for them.
4:46 Nah, Jerry ain't spending money. Not next year, not ever. The White Sox situation is very bad right now. It needs more coverage. It's not as bad as the A's technically, but at least the A's get a lot of heat and criticism. Jerry's White Sox seem to escape criticisms, despite being in the third largest city in the US.
The A's are understandable low market team, bad local TV deal, almost no fans to speak of. White Sox have one of the top 5 local TV deals, have decent attendance and a still a half decent ball park.
and a sh*t ball team.
from the area here; nobody wants to spend a dime on either team's stadium dream. Nope niether team is going to get a dime if most of us can help it.
the sox can leave after all this time you own team you build a stadium
Is it possible to just make them play on the road? Granted, the Mariners had to do that in midseason, but it can be done. (Well, the 1899 Spiders too, but... A's aren't even that bad.) Only other option is they're date setting and think the Rapture is here.
Play of the road 80 games and that's it. No home games.
replies have been off since last season 😂😂😂
Oakland has best weather in MLB
I don’t know why everybody keeps telling the lie, that no one in Las Vegas wants the A’s.
I'm a Raiders seasons ticket holder and a 11 game ice pack holder of the Golden Knights. I'm up in Vancouver Canada. From what I gather Vegas isn't all that great a market. I go down to Vegas 2-3 times a year. My Raiders tickets I've always been able to sell. My knights tickets that's another story smh! I've had to give away a few games on occasion.
Renovate Tropicana Field!
I disliked video I thought I would see the Titanic sink in the oakland coliseum.
Saludos
There's nothing wrong with GR Field that a better White Sox team wouldn't fix.
I’m a huge fan of Sox park, food, beer selection, overall atmosphere is excellent. Newer scoreboard, Miller Lite Landing Zone in RF are amazing seats. Scout Seats & G Rate Club offers a great vip experience. Section 108 rocks too
Once a stadium hits 30 years old, why do you need to rebuild? The old Comiskey was 85 years old before being torn down. The G Rate is night & day a better park than that dump Wrigley on the north side.
@@timbarry2743what a moronic take I agreed with the first half but if you knew anything about wrigly field you would know it was completely rennovated and transformed to have modern amenities and it managed to do it while still keep its historic look. It is considered one of the most impressive transformation in the history of stadium renovations. Wrigly is miles better than the Sox stadium.
@@natevart4156 I love waiting an hour to use the filthy bathrooms over there, oh the food is bad, overpriced… yeah… you’re right what a great park lol… good lord….
@@timbarry2743 I don’t rly buy much at a game, wrigly has a way better atmosphere for baseball and you know they re did all the bathroom right and tripled the amount of bathrooms? Your literally just uninformed lmao
@timbarry2743 had us in tge first half 🤣 🤣
Warriors left Oakland
Raiders left Oakland
A's leaving Oakland
It's pretty bad in Oakland
It's RUMORED that the A's ownership is allowing the stadium to fall into disrepair, to draw fans AWAY from wanting to go to games
White Sox don't draw period.
Never have never will.
I am a life long White Sox fan. But GR Field is only 30 years old and we (the tax payers) are still paying off $50 million in loans. If Reinsdork wants a new stadium, let him go to Nashville. Keep the Sox name in Chicago and bring the Rays here. Reinsdork leaving will be no great loss.
Aren't the Rays staying in Tampa now? Believe they are going to be building a new ball park there?
How about the Athletics build a ballpark in San Jose and the Giants own the parking lot BOOM PROBLEM SOLVED
Re: the Sox….“The new stadium is not guaranteed”. The old one is! 🤣
Bro 😆
Sox suck. 😂
Last year, the White Sox - two years removed from a division title - lost 101 games. This year, they'll be lucky only to lose that many games. What is the definition of "chutzpah?" Asking for taxpayer money for a new ballpark, which they do not need, in an inaccessible area, away from their fan base, when the team appears likely to break the franchise record for most losses in a season (106, achieved in 1970).
Hey they never lost 110 games . The teams pitching and defense has improved but they are 2nd level .The organization has not been run with the best qualified since 2007. This has been their worst era since the 1940's. The positive is Reinsdorf 's ownership is temporary. Hey he's past 80 6:20
Literally stopped watching a minute in when you judged a team by a preseason win total. I was hoping to see crap on my White Sox, but that is just lazy man.
Well I’m glad all of their 14 fans came out to voice their frustration
Im a sox fan - we are unbelievably bad. I surveyed offseason moves, kept tabs on the team and we are literally worse than some triple A teams statistically speaking. We WILL lose at least 125 games
Alright 125 is a big stretch. Yes they’re bad but they will still win some games
I can’t even watch these losers anymore. I’m 40 and this is the worst White Sox team I’ve ever seen. We will definitely lose at least 100 games this year. Get rid of Reinsdorf.
@@tommycrowley8668 you still standing on that? 3-19 and they've been shut out in almost all of their games. 125 losses minimum
@@JB-42069 I’m glad you followed up lol. I will admit, they are worse than I thought. I still don’t think they’ll lose more than 110. I’m willing to put a lot of money they don’t lose 125. It’s statistically hard to be that bad over such a long season. I’d love to keep following up with you every few weeks along the season in this thread just to measure how bad this team really is haha.
@@tommycrowley8668 fair enough. I guess time will tell
White Sox owner has owned team for 43 years and has won a playoff series in only one of those years! I'm guessing that might be the problem. Jerry has to go he is embarrassing, and he can stick cigar he's always smoking up his ample ass.
The Whitesox plays like a highschool softball team
The A's are a dysfunctional team in a dysfunctional city.
Bears owners have zero incentive to make the team better. That stadium is filled no matter how bad we are. Bunch of idiots. Bears and White Sox should both leave.
wristbands. definitely the biggest thing the a's have to deal with
Golden knights 😂😂😂 Las Vegas is going to be a 🤡 culture
That’s a shipwreck not a train wreck lol
Being a hardcore Whitesox fan this is unbearable. This team is so unlikeable. They can’t hit. Chicago deserves better. We don’t deserve Clevenger that’s a slap in the face to us.
White Sox do not need new stadium and is not as bad as you described
Go cubs
the last dive bar is actually an oakland a's fan group that organizes most of these protests
There is a new space that just opened up in New Jersey to throw both owners into.
Family in Chicago that ❤going to White Sox games cause food 🍱 at the stadium 🏟️ is pretty decent.
When your at a game with loved 🥰 ones, really don’t care
Not Everything is about numbers
So, your actually wrong, people did go
The diffrence between sox fans and cubs fans is we don't support failure like the cubs fans did for 106 years
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Don't sleep on the Marlins
You can add the Mets to the list soon too! Their stadium will be empty soon as well!!
Wrong Mets fans are the most loyal fans. They were 6th in attendance for a 77 win team. That’s loyalty.
4:36 The Sox got a project building across from the ballpark? Looks like something off of "Good Times"
They tore those projects down. In the 80s and 90s and before that Comiskey was across the street from the worst neighborhood in America. But now it’s more of a yuppie neighborhood.
It’s self sabotage and it’s sad 😢
I do have a major problem with the White Sox moving team locations that people do not mention
Is the White Sox stadium bad yes of the 17 MLB teams I’ve seen a home game for they are by far the worst stadium I have been to so far. However, the issue with the White Sox moving is, they played on that same plot of land since the Camisky opened in 1910
Not only that but the Sox have played continuously in the Midwest since they were a minor league team in the 1880s and 1890s. That would be like taking the Phillies out of Philadelphia or the Red Sox out of Boston
Comisky, please. Charles would appreciate it.
AAAAND the A’s lease extension has just been rejected about an hour ago
Then go to Sac or SLC. Player's union will have something to say.
I hate being a white sox fan 😭
See the northern light shining down on Comiskey Park. Oops, sorry, the name for the near future is Guaranteed Rate. Wonder what it will be next week?
Sad bro, very sad. Why is there such a problem with New Comiskey Park? I thought it was a pretty decent stadium.
The Athletics name has been around since the franchise was in Philadelphia. It's not going anywhere.
Regarding the thumbnail, that's a ship, not a train :) And no, I'm not fun at parties.
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The stadium in Bridgeport could be great with a few major renovations and with some investment in the community around the park. What the Sox need is a new owner who is willing to do what needs to be done
The "train wreck" is the City of Oakland. Its trying to negotiate with the A's and the actual County Authority isn't being invited and in fact is in disagreement with the Mayor's "proposal". You can't negotiate a deal with 2 different government powers who don't agree.
Also Las Vegas is a Dodgers city. There was a private company that did a survey asking who is the MLB team they root for. It came back like 90% was Dodgers... This is going to be an epic fail of unheard of proportions.... LV doesn't even like the Raiders, they like their WNBA team (Aces) more.
that is a lot of made up facts!!! no team has 90% support, even though the Aces have the best attendance in WNBA it's still the WNBA ... nowhere near support for Raiders...... but other than that you are spot on!! ha ha ha
@@togoandmossyou can make statistics that always support your viewpoint lmao idk where OP came from with these
Well if they go to the finals like the golden knights everybody will jump on the ban wagon like the fakes they are
No Vegas is very transient, most of the fans will be out of state coming in for. a weekend to catch a game. They might just not want Fisher. I think he ends up selling but they still move.
@@scotttildhe'll sell after a few years, make another billion in profits, even though he said he'll keep it in the family long term.
A's and White Sox were expected to suck.
But the Mets?.....Astros?
Ton of pressure on the Mets & Cohen.
Their neighbors in the Bronx start off 5-0.
Long summer for the Mets.
Well the A’s have rejected the lease extension today it’s looking like they’re definitely going to try and play in Sacramento. What a mess
The entire sport is in trouble. More people watched last nights Women College basketball final four game than watched any game of the 2023 World Series. Let that sink in. People are more interested in women college basketball than the World Series. I love baseball but that’s freaking scary and there’s no way to sugarcoat it. The leagues best player is from Japan and is embroiled in a gambling scandal and Rob Manfred sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it.
That's why Football is number one in the United States. No other sport compares to football.
Why do the networks keep paying outrageous fees to broadcast games that year after year ratings decline?
@@williamkale8532 oh, it’s coming. The last rights fee MLB signed with ESPN was less than the previous one and according to a report last month they are reportedly leaning towards opting out of its contract with MLB in 2025. MLB is no longer a natonial sport, it’s a regional sport now. The only true national sport left in the US is the NFL. What I mean by that is in the NBA and MLB people watch in big numbers only if their regional team is playing whereas in the NFL people watch in big numbers no matter who’s playing.
Players sent down, benched, traded, let go, ticket prices rising, vindictive ownership, zero investment in the team/stadium, "parallel paths" and folks really wonder WHY attendance is down!!??? #SellTheFknTEAM
The A"s are not responsible for the state of the Coliseum. Ticket prices rising? Have you seen the inflation numbers? Players were not "let go". They wanted to play for more money from teams that had more revenue coming in.
Man, as Sox fan, this is sad 😢
It is. After we last made the playoffs I thought we were progressing.
As a Cubs fan, this is glorious
@@mizer9510 I miss the years when the cubs were embarrassing
@@mizer9510 Screw you bandwagon
I agree :(
John Fisher is a disgrace to MLB. He needs to go.
The Athletics will likely have no choice but to play in the Las Vegas minor league ballpark in 2025. As for the White Sox, of they don't get funding for the 78 site, they'll either go to Nashville or Charlotte.
That's if Nashville or Charlotte get funding for stadiums there money is money everywhere
The A's have the worst owner in baseball, the worst stadium in baseball and the worst team in baseball. So I get it. I think their is an issue that doesn't get talked about enough though and that's the problems the Oakland officials who negotiate with MLB and other sports leagues aren't doing Oakland sports fans any favors either. The new proposal from Oakland officials to the A's just for them to be able to spend the next 3-years playing in the worst stadium in baseball:
1) An 1,800% increase on rent.
2) The forced acquisition of millions of tens of millions of dollars of the A's owners private property.
3) The forced acquisition of millions of dollars worth of more of the A's owners private property in the A's brand rights, naming rights and moniker rights or MLB guarantees they will be locked into a long term marriage of negotiating with them forever by either moving a current team there or guaranteeing them an expansion team.
All this in exchange for a 3-year lease in the worst stadium in baseball at an 1,800% markup.
If Oakland fans want baseball their elected officials are shooting the baseball fans in the foot right now. Other cities don't act this way. Oakland officials are not only losing the A's by negotiating the way they did once the current Mayor took over but they are guaranteeing themselves that MLB will never be willing to negotiate with them again by making such absurd demands and taking so long to negotiate anything. If Oaklanders want an MLB team they shouldn't *only* call out Fisher. The should definitely call out Fisher but they should be calling out their elected officials too. Until that happens major professional sports in Oakland is doomed. Look at how long Oakland officials "negotiated" the Howard Terminal site to keep the A's in Oakland. 6 solid months of negotiations that I only got to that point after years and even decades of attempted negotiations for a new stadium. During all that time Oakland officials couldn't even agree to introduce a stadium funding bill to the assembly. Las Vegas negotiated, agreed to, signed, introduced and passed a stadium funding bill all in less than 2 weeks. Salt Lake City passed a $900M stadium funding bill and they didn't even have anyone offering them a team at all. Sports franchises are going to take the path of least resistance just like most businesses do. Oakland officials seem hell bent on being the path of most resistance. Just look at what I just cited that they are demanding only for a 3-year lease in the worst stadium in baseball. The state of the team is on Fisher. The reason the team is leaving and likely no other team will come back to Oakland is on the elected Oakland officials.
Last Dive Bar is a group of A’s fans trying to keep the team in Oakland. Seriously you didn’t know? You are making me depressed. He got sent down for identifying with this awesome organization. Dude has a great heart and understands how bad the owner is…
A "Dive Bar" sounds romantic but in reality, its not a compliment. Its where poor and down and out people go for a cheap way to get drunk and don't care about the company they are with.
@@mikelfrance-l6x Yea but it’s our dive bar.
One thing they both have in common is they share a market with another team, it’s clear that they both need their own market.
True but the White Sox’s get a boat load of money from their local TV deal they are in the top 5 at least they were. A’s are in the bottom 10. Both have terrible owners. Both are investment bankers not sports guys, so they don’t care to put a decent product on the field they just look at money and dollars. That’s what matters to them.
What's wrong with the White Sox current stadium...? Looks quite nice judging by the pictures.
Oakland should just forfeit the season and shut down till 2028. Lease extension…HAHAHAHA! Chicago has money, Oakland does not.
It's funny because from their spring training, the A's looked like they'd be doing better, but the moment the season starts - BAM! They fail. I feel bad for JD Davis and Lawrence Butler, and even Mitch Spence - they deserve better.
Seriously? ANOTHER lame duck year in Oakland???
If the A's completely rebeanded and the Athletics name was no longer in baseball, that would be the end for me and every other A's fan. I don't know where people think a Las Vegas A's fanbase is going to come from.
I’m a Yankee fan and I still don’t get how the A’s are still a team.. should have disappeared last season.
They have been around for 100 years.
Having odd number of teams is stupid.
Contracting a team shows your league isn't growing.
Maybe the Yankees’ could share equally all the local TV money. That’s the disparity and that’s why the Yankees’ can spend billions on contracts and the A’s can’t. It’s not equal.
Reisdorff wants the White Sox to be bad! Why? Who knows!
Kind of funny you talk c*** about the Broncos but look at the Colorado Rockies they're in war shape in the Broncos
What about the Marlins? 😬
Who?
Why don't they knock down the centerfield seats and have it look like it was in the 70's?
If Oakland baseball fans don't want an MLB team. Keep not going to games.
Chicago doesn't need 2 baseball teams anymore. Illinois is losing population. US demographics are moving south and west. Philadelphia St Louis Boston all had 2 teams at one point too.
Dims destroying the city
I'm a White Sox fan and I agree with you. Let's face it--the Cubs have a "destination ballpark" and the Sox do not.
Guaranteed Rate Field isn't a terrible ballpark. It's not a great one either.
But that's not the key issue here. Rather, as you say, Illinois is losing population. This leads me to believe that much of the White Sox fan base doesn't live in the Chicagoland Area anymore.
The owner is 88 years old. He's playing with us about a new stadium. NEW OWNERSHIP ASAP
@@williamkale8532 The problem with most professional teams is the ownership.
With more than 9 million people in the Chicago metro area, there are more than enough to support two teams. The bigger problem is getting people to come out to the ballpark. Build on the tradition of the franchise, such as the Cubs did. Make the area around the park a destination, like the Cubs did.
And possibly the Astros (if we are looking at the standings).
Ny Mets are a train wreck as well and yes I’m a lifelong Mets fan
As a Vegas resident, if the A’s come here, Fisher fucks off, and the franchise is rebranded, I would support it because it’s no different at this point than an expansion franchise, with a new name, young players, and a whole building process to undergo.
The most important part is Fisher fucking off though. He in no way shape or form can be apart of things here in Vegas.
Ideally, I would like Bill Foley to invest into the franchise and become the majority owner, because if he does, he ABSOLUTELY would have Vegas’ best interests at heart with the team, and it would be successful! His work as the owner of the VGK has been unbelievable to witness these past 7 years, and I know he would be able to do that too for the A’s if he got the opportunity, and had the desire, to do so!
I'm a 11 game ice pack holder of the golden knights up in Vancouver Canada. As well I have raiders seasons tickets. In all honesty and no offense I've had a difficult time selling my Knights tickets at cost. Raiders tickets sell but my Knights tickets no one wants to give me what I pay for them for the lousier NHL teams that come in to play the Knights. IMHO and no offense cause I come down 2-3 times a year there as I love Vegas but I don't think it is all that good a market from what I gather.
What was the last thing A’s did that made sence?
A's to Sacramento as their interim home. Agree should let Oakland keep the A's nickname and come up with a new one so it'll feel more like a Vegas team. How bout the Vegas Platinum Knights?
We just moved to Las Vegas in January 2024 and if they do eventually come here, they should be called something that relates to the area and the politics. How about the Las Vegas Jacks! They totally jack people of their money here regardless of what we do here. Gasoline...Jack, Housing Purchases....Jack, Food...Jack, Car Registration and Driver's License...Jack, Business Licenses....DEFINITELY JACK!!! Yeah there's no state tax here, but they get us with EVERYTHING ELSE! We're moving out of Nevada next year pending a money miracle!
Ideal new name…Las Vegas Ace
@StormyDomainOh…too bad. A’s and Ace sound almost the same and the fans could have kept calling them the “A’s” and they could’ve still had a change of identity. All kidding aside it would be sad to see the A’s (Athletics) name die. It started as the Philadelphia Athletics in 1901 before moving to KC in ‘55 and then finally Oakland in ‘68. By the time they move to Vegas in ‘27 or whatever, if they change their name, it’ll be the ending of at least a 126 year tradition. And I am not even a fan. I follow the Jays…who just got no hit by a scrub. So I have my own issues! 😂
Athletics is a classic, timeless, unique name that followed the team when they left Philadelphia and Kansas City
"Ace" or "Aces" is stupid name for dumb people who think they are smart. "Hey Vegas has gambling! Call them the Aces!"
Also North Americans really do overuse the "😂" emoji
@@HoshizakiYoshimasaDid you just learn all the history of the franchise parroting what I just said? If you watched the video I was just making a lighthearted reference to the narrator suggesting the name of the franchise might be changed. Of course any dufus who has followed baseball knows the “Athletics” is a timeless name and should not be changed. I could make silly generalizations about people in Asia too couldn’t I? But of course that wouldn’t be politically correct…. 🤔. OMG there’s another emoji! 😱 and another one! Damned North Americans! 🤣
I like the Las Vegas Jacks. Already did a trademark search, no team is even close with that nickname.
@@scotttild And what if the team sucks? Then what will people call them?
I wish the White Sox would just move already. MLB would be better served to have a different market than a second-tier Chicago team
The franchise wouldn't benefit from leaving Chicago. Whatever the situation is at any given time, it's still the best market to be in from a potential customer base.
If I'm the A's, I'm looking at other options other than Vegas. Nashville Charlotte Utah or San Antonio. I have doubts small TV market Vegas can support 81 home games or keep TV ratings up. It's not American Football where they only play 8 times a year at home. It's not hockey Where they plsy only 40 in a smaller facility during the winter tourist season. MLB is completely different.
Thing about Las Vegas is it is more then just MLB. What I am saying is people will go just for a weekend and catch a game. Depending on the ballpark design it could be a draw. I don't see San Antonio as an option, Rangers and Astros share the rights to Texas so you would be infringing on their rights. Nashville Charlotte Utah could work if Vegas falls apart.
@@scotttildKinda hoping it does fall apart as a Vegas resident. Really don’t want that cancer Fisher in my city.
A'S Have to play the young players
You left out the Rockies. Worst ownership in MLB
Expanding baseball with so many troubled franchises is a recipe for disaster!
They have said no expansion until the Rays and A’s are solved. Not sure how the Sox’s fit into the mix.
@@scotttildI'm up in Vancouver and there is rumblings about the Arizona Diamondbacks seriously relocating here. Google search it and see all the stories for yourself. I know some people here that know some big business people here locally and I'm being told that the Diamondbacks are going to be relocating here after the season concludes. They too are wanting a new ball park in Arizona and the taxpayers don't want to foot the bill.
A's owner needs to go!!
#wristbandgate
#WristbandGate
Delete the A’s, Rays, Marlins, White Sox.
And only grow the stereotype that baseball is shrinking in the US? Relocate them to markets who want teams. Contraction of teams shows other leagues you are weak. Anyone who suggests contracting teams is an idiot.
They tried contraction a number of years ago never will get anywhere with the players association.
@@scotttild Cities that dont support their teams dont deserve a team.
You don't contract 2 teams that have been around over 100 years
@@michaelleroy9281 You do if the city refuses to support them.
They can be the blackjacks or aces
Aces name is taken
I nominate Las Vegas Jacks.
@@scotttild I like that
Portland A’s
Why would they go to a metropolitan area that's SHRINKING in population?
Portland has no downtown anymore. It’s a total disaster. No one in their right mind would invest in OR or Portland. They have become communists.
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There are worse stadiums than Coliseum like New Comiskey and the Trop
Honest question….I have never been to the “New Comiskey”. I just looked at a video about it, and apparently the concessions are better than Wrigley (I have never been there either but am going in August) and the seats/sight lines from the video at least, I thought looked pretty good. Why is the stadium hated so much? I grew up in Toronto (no longer live there) and went to the Jays first ever game on April 7, 1977 against the Sox in what could be considered the worst dump of a stadium ever, Exhibition (or as we liked to call it Prohibition Stadium - they did not allow beer the first 5 years but that is another story). I no longer live in TO but they are doing a massive reno on Skydome (Rogers Centre - too bad they didn’t think to renovate the name too) and it may bring it back to lower/mid tier. Anyway, apologies for rambling, but I am considering maybe going to Guaranteed Rate (what a name) on the same trip as to Wrigley and debating with all the bad stuff I hear about it…
@@midnightrambler7716 it should have never been built- same goes for Comerica Park in Detroit. Detroit and Chicago had their own Fenway Parks and then *poof* GONE
@@rapalbumdepot7648I can see that. I’ve been to Fenway and Tiger years ago and loved them. They probably could’ve saved the old Yankee Stadium too. I have been to both, but I went to old Yankee Stadium its second last year and from what I hear, it wasn’t the same since the early 70’s renovation. The new one at least kind of holds some of the charm of the old one but it is often heavily criticized too. The bottom line is, it’s almost always a losing proposition to replace one of these shrines. Baltimore managed to pull off a modern gem, but I guess the old Memorial Stadium was never held in very high regard 😂. I never went there either.
Oh…and I have been to the Trop a number of times and it IS horrible! I even saw an NHL game there before the Bolts moved into what was then known as the Ice Palace in 1996 (now Amalie Arena)! THAT was an experience! 😂 But it still isn’t as bad as Exhibition Stadium was.
@@midnightrambler7716 Blue Jays at Exhibition Stadium managed by Bobby Cox
I never understood why games are played in the afternoons on weekdays. Afternoon games should only be reserved for weekends.
It's fine to have a handful throughout the summer. They can be good for corporate events during the workday, or summer camp field trips, or a stay at home mom taking her son to a game. But they shouldn't really hold them in April, May or September.
Getaway game
This is called "investment"
They will eat these kind of games if it leads to HUGE sellouts in Vegas in a few years from now
WTF are you talking about???
Why would this team be successful in LV? Dodger territory.
@@rainbowmade1880 Tons of tourists who go to watch their team play. This is what the Golden Knights are doing with hockey, Raiders with football same thing.
The locals can do whatever, that's not who they're after in LV