Yamaha DXR12MKII vs DBR12 - A / B Test (Spoken Word & Music)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2022
- Just doing a side-by-side spoken word and music test between these two speakers.
Check out a video a couple videos back comparing the DBR10 and QSC CP8.
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LOVE the sound of Yamaha! They should have almost an identical sound. The difference in price reflects the beefiness of the parts used. The DXR is going to have a woofer inside that should have a larger magnet on the back. Also, the tweeter is going to be a little more expensive as well. The amp in the DXR is going to have just a little more top end power over the DBR. As far as Maximum Volume/Loudness, the DXR is tested to max out at 134 DB vs the DBR at 131 DB. Now in a real world situation. Going to be impossible to get either speakers to read out at 130+ DB, but the DXR is going to be a little louder before the amp maxes out and potentially clips. Either Speaker is going to handle the same size events essentially. Most people perform at events with 75 to 400 in attendance, and both speakers in a pair set up connected to a subwoofer can handle this size audience. Both are backed by Yamaha warranty. For the price difference, DBR is the better value, and going to be just fine for most users. Choose DXR if you NEED to play VERY LOUD a lot, and want that additional peace of mind using a model with higher end parts inside.
Yes I love them Yamahas too. Have had original dxr10s & original dxr12s in the past too along with dxs15 subs. Sold the 12s to a friend so I could buy the DXR12mkii when they came out and sold the DXR10s because we had those for smaller shows and never needed all their power so now we use DBR10s instead. Much lighter of course and I feel they're a great value.
Good info for anyone looking for tops and has Yamaha on their list of considerations.
This info its a gold!! thanks friend
You bet!! 👍
this is saravanan from india your video is very useful for me dxr12 mk2 sounds clarity awesome delivered true sounds
Thanks for letting me know and I'm glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for the review. I was thinking of getting the DBR12s for live use with my Roland electronic kit. The DXR is definitely cleaner, more like a QSC, but I like the warmth and fuller sound of the DBR. DXR would be better for vocals and guitar but for drums I am leaning towards the DBR. What do you think? I too am a Yamaha fan, I use the MG16XU mixer, which has been great.
You're welcome! Honestly I've never had any electronic kit so I truly can't say on that I guess. I have read, just like you probably, many posts of people saying that they use the DBR or DXR series for drums with success though. I think you would be good with either one.
In guitar and vocal testing, I have found the DXR and DBR to sound a lot like each other at reasonable levels unless you're really listening to pick out differences like in this video. I've had success gigging with the DBR and DXR series for guitar and vocals though. No complaints.
For use on an electronic kit, for small gigs would the speaker be used for monitor and front of house or monitor only? I really don't know. Maybe a speaker like this would be like a guitar player uses for a monitor - small bars it could cover the bar but larger venues it serves as stage monitor and gets ran into FOH.
@@JHGurganus Thank you for responding so quickly. I use IEMs so the speakers are just for amplifying the drum sounds. I place the speakers right in front of the kit with a subwoofer so the sound comes from the kit. I use the group outs to my speakers so I can control how much, if any goes to FOH spending on the size of the room. I am looking for speakers with more head room and clarity than my current ones so I can get loud without distortion or being too muddy.
@@edrums You're welcome and okay that makes sense now I have a little better understanding.
I wish I had a little bit more experience there but unfortunately I don't. I used to have a couple of DXS15 subs when I thought we could make a full band work but it never worked out. All of my older DXR and DXS stuff was sold to friends who still use them. All of our work though is acoustic and vocals so we really don't focus on low end too much. But DBR12s may work out great. Like you, most of my gear is Yamaha stuff and I've had great luck with it all.
how is the bass? enough to party for 100 pax? was considering the machine 215XT and just found this
Another great review. Appreciate it... What are the studio monitors your using? Yamaha's?
Thank you! Yes they are Yamahas...the HS8s.
Dude they sounded 95 % the same. Mids slightly off on the dbr
For half price.
Id buy 4 dbr instead of 2 dxrmk2.
Double is always better add in a graphic eq and boom.
Yes they're definitely close and I agree on the EQ. Seems like I've heard it said before - nothing a little EQ can't fix.
We're still using our dbr10s for 95% of our gigs. Most (not all) of our gigs are smaller with low SPL requirements.
Thank you for the comparison
You bet 👍
Dxr definitely sounds fuller I believe will hold up better at higher volume
I love the DXRs & DBRs but agree 100% that, when pushed to max SPLs, the DXR is the one that will hold together and sound better maxed out.
Great comparison, thanks!
You're welcome! I've watched a couple of your videos too. Do you still like your stagepas 200?
@@JHGurganus Yes, it's great for small rooms with 100 or fewer people! You can control the mix from your phone or an iPad. No need for an external mixer, one less thing to bring. I have many more videos to post where you'll hear the sound quality a bit better!
@@MichaelAlso okay great that's good to hear thanks for letting me know! I'll be sure to check back in with your channel soon to check out some more videos of it. Thanks 🎙️👍
@@JHGurganus absolutely! highly recommend for those smaller gigs. The Yamaha Stagepas 200 and the Everse 8 are maybe the best portable speakers out there right now
@@MichaelAlso thanks for that. We've been using DXR10mkiis (1 or 2 of them) the last few months but I've considered the stagepas 200 or everse 8 or 12. But honestly I think I like the physical controls on the stagepas 200.
You helped me pull the trigger on them dbr
Nice glad to help! I had 3 dbr12s at one point and always EQ'd to the room and the source and never a problem. Really most of the time it was set it and forget it from gig to gig for acoustic stuff.
Honestly, watching this they both sound great and I'm really not hearing much difference.
Awesome thanks for watching & thanks for your input.
The new DHR i hear is the wood version of the DBR. Have not seen a comparison between the two.
I haven't either but I'm very curious to hear how they sound because they were on my short list I just didn't pull the trigger yet. Looks like the DHR10 has the same smaller amplifier as the DBR10 but the DHR10 looks like it has a larger compression driver than the DBR10. Should sound better being wood and possibly a better compression driver but I'm not a pro at that.
@@JHGurganus thanks for your reply. yea, i was going to get a pair of DHR this week but price went up from $552 to now $649! man, might settle with DBR12s.
@@debalenalang09 yeah not sure if you knew but unfortunately that 552 was a temporary price for about a month. Alto music still has refurbs listed for 494 if you are interested. They may be pretty much like new new I'm not sure. I've never ordered from them.
I used the DBR12 and sure did miss the upper midrange and could not eq it to sound good. The crossover is to high in the DBR series! Can't you hear how much more clarity comes from the DXR series. It's because the crossover is lower.
Honestly I often try to listen for that but sometimes my ears don't pick it up as much as others. Of course that's why everyone needs to go listen for themselves to see what's best for them. I have found many times that for basic PA use a little EQ, if needed, goes a long way.
I trust and love Yamaha but one of these days I need to get in something like an RCF 932 to see if I can hear a huge difference with the lower crossover that they have.
Thanks for your input!
DRX 4 sure..sounds more dynamic ... atleast when playing music!
Thx!
With Headphone..DXRs much more tighter and more definitive 👌👌
Yes thx! I really wish I had these outside next to each other to push them a bit.
@@JHGurganus not sure of the DBR but the DXRs, I once had the 10” the louder the better ;) upgraded now to the DzRs , oh boy sweet sounding on all levels..
@@OwlStudio73 good to know and I agree on the dxr10s. I had a pair of the original ones - just amazing.
It seems like the dbr is a tad warmer, better for club music. The dxr has a clearer and brighter tone, not a whole lot. The dxr would be better for live performance
Thanks for the input. Wish I could have gotten both of them outside at the same time and really pushed them.
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Hi, is The DXR/DBR 10 sufficient for 250sqm or 2690sqf room size? Or need at least the 12s?
Sufficient enough to get the quality sound of the speakers
Hello...I would say it depends on what type of music you are playing through them and the expected SPL. Is this for live music? If so, a full band or maybe an acoustic duo? And would they be for a loud club or a quieter restaurant type setting?
For live full band
Loud
@gudnet yes absolutely in my experience. But as you probably know only so much low end without subs. Oh and I would go with dxr if I could.
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As an amateur guitarist, I mainly focused on this instrument for this comparison. The guitar sound was certainly more defined and full on the DHR12.
Hey thanks for commenting but I'm sorry just want to clarify did you mean the DXR12 or the DBR12?
@@JHGurganus Sorry, DXR12 obviously! I was looking for a versatile and space-saving speaker that could be used both as a speaker for guitar modelers and as a stage monitor. I was looking at Yamaha (DBR10, DHR10, DXR10) but also QSC CP8/CP12.
@@FaberGT86 Nice okay thanks for clarifying the DXR12! Sounds like you've got some good choices there. Just played a gig the other night with a buddy of mine and he used one of the DBR10s he bought off me as a floor monitor for himself and I used a CP8 for myself. We used my DXR10MKIIs for FOH that night. I bought the CP8 back in 2019 I think somewhat shortly after they came out as a smaller, lightweight alternative for a floor monitor and have been using it ever since but I would not hesitate to use the DBR10.
@@JHGurganus They are all great speakers. I think that for all the reasons I told you, I would be more oriented towards the CP8. I've read that it also works well as a speaker for modelers. Thank you for this content, very informative indeed.
@@FaberGT86 You're welcome sir and I'm glad it helped. And yes, I've read the same as you - that the CP8 works well for modelers, too. Good luck!
I need to buy a Roland drum monitor and I seriously can't choose between these two. Both sound great but the guitars sound better to me on the DXR.
Thanks for your take on it. Wish I could help but unfortunately I've never had to use a drum monitor. But I do agree both sound great.
Low mid and high, dxr12 win
Appreciate you listening and your thoughts
DBR sounded 'flabby'...and more 'loose'...DXR sounded tighter and in control with more clarity.
Thx for the comment!
Exactly, because they have better components and a lower horn crossover that gives you that upper midrange vocal clarity. I've used the DBR and they get really loud but the clarity is missing.
@@jimdavis9581Glad I have and use both thanks for the comment!
@@jimdavis9581 good point. Another thing is DBR cant 'throw' the sound far. After 20 feet or so.... the sound drops a lot no matter how loud you blast it
Dxr much better sound, more flat
Thanks