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Revision 2019 - Compo - Amiga Demo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- 0:00 - Intro
01:45 RESETkání Invitation - kLik
04:15 Secret Title - Void
06:50 Twenty Years Of Zealotry - moods plateau
13:40 Future Of Limits - The Electronic Knights
18:00 Driftwood - Almagest
21:05 Dark Goat Rises - Noice
24:40 [Part 3] Origins - Unique
30:00 Brutalism - Capsule
36:30 Signals - Haujobb
41:25 Knarkzilla - Ephidrena, Loonies, Kvasigen
45:31 De Profundis - Deadliners, Lemon., Oxygene
54:30 EON - The Black Lotus
(timestamps provided by "d0dge")
![Beam Riders by Haujobb & Ghostown [Amiga]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uJsZXgSaELE/mqdefault.jpg)
Never felt so honored to get beaten to a pulp by such a lineup. [edit] How come nobody has yet provided time stamps:
01:45 RESETkání Invitation - kLik
04:15 Secret Title - Void
06:50 Twenty Years Of Zealotry - moods plateau
13:40 Future Of Limits - The Electronic Knights
18:00 Driftwood - Almagest
21:05 Dark Goat Rises - Noice
24:40 [Part 3] Origins - Unique
30:00 Brutalism - Capsule
36:30 Signals - Haujobb
41:25 Knarkzilla - Ephidrena, Loonies, Kvasigen
45:31 De Profundis - Deadliners, Lemon., Oxygene
54:30 EON - The Black Lotus
Every single time I see TBL's Eon... I break into tears. It is so gorgeous..
Same! LOL it's fucking amazing for a comptuer from 1987.
@@animaze86 From 1985 actually. Same hardware as Amiga 1000. :)
i met one of the guys who worked on it. and they showed it to me and me knowing nothing about the amiga. was like "wow so this is like ps1 hardware?"
my jaw hit the floor when i realized it was in fact.... not ps1
Man that TBL demo was out of this world
literally, using vector animation style Another world (out of this world in US)
Blown my mind! I'm so happy that I was a part of Amiga Glory Days and still have the same passion deep inside when I watch these masterpieces.
If I'm not mistaken this is more or less the same tech that was used in StateOfTheArt/9Fingers in the early '90s which set the standard for almost 30 years. This prod basically did the same for the next 30 years. Absolutely amazing!
@@csabasanta5696 Well not exactly; looks that the TBL deo is drawing some scene with 3d RT calculations
Most TBL demos are absolute top tier productions. They are easily my fav demoscene crew.
Wow!!! The Amiga never dies! This is just epic! The feeling, the music, 3d effects ,and the ART. I am stunned...❤️
The less powerful the Amiga, the better the demo. The 500 is the best of all Amigas, that thing I knew when I was 9 years old :)
The times where nothing was impossible. If it was difficult, you would optimize the code endlessly. Today if it's difficult, you ask people to buy better hardware + sell repeated content as DLCs.
They were all superb but the TBL demo was just unreal for an A500. Hats off. . . . just fantastic stuff :D
Best Amiga demo compo in years! Respect to all the groups
I really enjoyed this... its like someone has pushed the power button for a new era of the Amiga's, i love my Amigas ,Commodore for life
He has a point at the end. All tech and no style is dull. All style and no tech is meh. The perfect balance is magix.
Amiga RULEZ! Forever!
I need a download of that TBL demo, hopefully they put it up soon. I was watching the livestream and I’m still blown away the following day
EON is awesome for an A500 1MB !!
TBL single handedly converted me. So Good
50.000+ views! wow! Who said Amiga Scene was dead?
Said no-one. :)
MEGA Geil, the Amiga Demos are so AWESOME. EON /TBL is my Favorite. 10/10 Points
im amazed by how good the amiga demoscene is now...
That Haujob demo has a sick track.
Muffler - Blocks th-cam.com/video/AeWN7_Wevk0/w-d-xo.html
TBL is so jaw dropping I'm watching it once a week! Jesus!
Black Lotus was so incredibly.. This guys are awesome.
What a compo, so glad i saw this all live at Revision!
Ich kriegs einfach nicht auf die Kette, wie geil die TBL Demo ist...
For those wondering, the QR code hidden in the Deadliners demo goes to a site that displays scrolling code. If you inspect element you can see the translation as it scrolls. It tells you to add “silence” to the url and also provides the Rosetta Stone to translate the symbols into letters. The new url has a block of text which translates to: “ALL SHALL BE REVEALED TO THE ONE WHO STEP INTO THE LIGHT / FOLLOW ME INTO THE LAND OF ?ALLIA / ARRIVE AT THE GREATEST CITY GATES / NORTH EAST STEP INTO THE IMMENSE CEMETARY / ?? ARE THE ANCIENT INITIALS OF THIS PLACE / CRYPTS OSSUARIES SHRINES / SEEK FORTH THE ONLY VAULT THAT BELONGS TO THE TIME TRAVELER.”
First unknown symbol looks like R, second one looks like ^ with a horizontal line on top, third one is a square, divided into 2 triangles, with the bottom right one being filled. The unknown letters are Q X and Z so maybe the next clues are in the demo itself somewhere?
The code in the introduction of the demo is different to the one on the website. Same symbols but different letter substitution. I don't know if the translated text is the clue to another part or if the second part itself is the easter egg and it stops there
I never did figure this out, someone hinted that it refers to a physical place, and that someone has left something there for people to find
Totally RULEZ !!! Amiga 4 Lyfe !! RESPECT ALL ACTIVE GROUPS
So much impressive stuff, like those 3d textured w dynamic lighting sections on a stock A1200! Unbelievable!
there was no stock amiga 1200 there, it was 060 and the demo you think about (8) requires 040+
@@rasz Oh! Why on earth didn't they say so at the opening screen @ requirements then? Buffling! Still, very impressive stuff throughout the compo this year.
freeze frame @30:14
@@rasz Yes, of course, I just expected the requirements to be at the opening screen before the demo like the rest of them. Oh well, as I said, still very impressive. Thx for the clarification m8!
@@rasz the demo will indeed work on 040+, but to get its real intended speed you need a 68060/50 -- all the time-critical parts were hand-coded to gain 2x or more speedup on 060 ( faster FPU, faster multiplication, etc.).
Wow...just wow! Thanks to all groups for bringing this to the ppl!
Amazing demos! Knarkzilla is the most outstanding in my opinion. The track just kills!
EON forever
24:59 - The best demo!
No, EON FOREVER
AMIGAAAAAA! ✌️💪👍🤓
What a lineup, amazing!
No pueden ser tan capos!!! son los mejores en mucho tiempo!!! vectores combinados con bitmaps y una música excepcional.
Some outright ridiculous stuff on Amiga this year, god damn!
Track for EON is.... a bloody electronic killah, press it on Vinyl now!
altogether it is an amazing, amazing piece of work
Very very very impressive! Amiga rulez!
Best regards.
Valdyn.
That moment was magic.
Capsule - very attractive soundtrack! Still under good impression
that tbl demo was mindblowing!!! Eat that Spaceballs lol
Wow. Just wow
Great productions again this year :)
They are all great demos, but those on the 500 are just ubelievable!
Che macchina meravigliosa l'Amiga e quanti ricordi! 😢
Tbl gave me chills
Well wasn't that a very impressive and strong compo
Perfect...
TBL was the best, no question about it.
I was so hot for Revision 2020 :c
It is a kind of a shame that EON gets flattened into "well done flashy animation". On top of having 70 seconds of 25fps streaming polygonal animation plus more crammed into one disk, even the music in this demo is genius. Rendering 4 channel drum loops from individual samples in the background into a double buffer and flipping the buffer when needed to create complex layered drum loops that only take a single Paula channel plus 3 other channels and minimal disk space usage. Basically running 7 channel audio. Madness.
Wyśmienite !!! Amiga Rólz! :)
TBL kicks ass
54:28 "De Profundis"
Signals - Haujobb Пушка!
Miazga TBL!
Amiga
Dieses Jahr siehts dann eher finster aus. Mal schauen, wie viele (Anti-)Corona Demos kommen. :D
Origins - Unique was the best!!!
What resolutions do these 16:9 demos run in? Is it some new timing, overscan or just a reduction in vertical pixels (like 320×180) ?
copy/pasted from Revision's website:
16:9 Recording Option
- Annoyed by the thick black frame on the bigscreen around your Amiga entry? This year, we can record your Amiga entry in a 16:9 format, so it will be full screen on the bigscreen!
- On the standard 320x256 PAL screen, only render into a 320x180 (16:9) area, positioned vertically to the middle.
- If you setup your screen manually, use the following values: DIWSTRT,$5281; DIWSTOP,$06c1
- Do not change the resolution or change the position of your render area during your entry.
- Preferably set the border color to black outside this render area.
- This option was mainly invented for AGA entries, but OCS/ECS is not excluded.
- If you want this option, make sure to leave a note to the organizers in the party system when submitting your entry.
Yes, it is "just" a reduction in active scanlines, together with configuring your modern TV / monitor to zoom the PAL signal while preserving aspect-ratio.
You can run some fairly wide scren-ish resolutions in Workbench but for demo productions there is no way. They use very low res for more fps. Most games didn't even use the full NTSC/PAL area either for this reason.
Was the TBL demo realtime 3d or just a prerendered animation, i dont know enough about demo coding to tell :/
Emoon just released a comprehensive write-up about the coding Kung-Fu behind the demo. Find it here: tbl.nu/
Are these all OCS 1MB (A500) demos?
Hell no :D
OCS 1 MB demos are:
Void - "Secret Title (Gummibear demo)"
moods plateau - "Twenty Years Of Zealotry"
The Electronic Knights - "Future Of Limits"
Lemon.^Deadliners^Oxygene - "De Profundis" (2 disks)
The Black Lotus - "EON" (2 disks)
All the other demos are A1200 AGA and definitely need acceleration (most need a 68060 + some FastRAM). The safe high-end config to run the AGA stuff is a 1260/50 MHz accelerator + 64 MB FastRAM.
At 30:14 it states [68040+ needed] don't dream ... and it runs on an 060.
Well yea, a 020+882 will run it, but the end-result won't be happy.
and 040 and >32MB fast ram
@@windenntw It will not, we are using move16 in some places, I think....
AGA+060+64Mb
@@pkvp7337 Where did you get the idea of showing a BBC micro from?
Is the one commenting by any chance a Chaos from Sanity?
"only Amiga makes it possible".....
What the fuck have I just watched?!?
\o/
Wait, was that a qr at 51:56?
51:56
"PC ssie starą skarpetę" ;)
51:56 qr code?
56:27 LOL ale podnieta :D
Sie wie ;)
Amiga werez...
Beeb spotted ! th-cam.com/video/zwoyfH7TgEQ/w-d-xo.html
I don't believe any of this . . .
What happened to demoscene musicians? They appear to be in some kind of crisis, as the vast majority of songs are boring, strange rhythms and a full lack of melody.
fed up of that classic techno vision for the demos, not mention those c64 chiptunes-sound-like... Why not being more original?
The coding design changed, why then sticking to the old music style? We seen it hundreds of times, time for something different.
Don't know what you expect but in my book -- and as a live attender and participator -- the musical range was quite wide as the overall quality of the competition was exceptional.
I can only speek for our production, and for its soundtrack I explicitly had a doskpop tune with a slight hint of modern synthwave in mind. Novel added a pinch of oldschool chip sound for good measure.
d0dge I am not sure what your prod is exactly, but I got so bored with the musics, as they were repetitive and very similar. it is like if the 90's never were left back.
We are in 2019,not 1996. time to change mind. Techno music is boring these days.
I saw no melody or just a bit of something which made music a remarkable element.
why do we have to keep on seeing or hearing the same we did 30 years ago? didn't our lifes change since then? I saw no musicians this time... Maybe the musics took time to develop, but the result has no "musicality", music stays in a secondary point, instead of taking control, as it were when this music was state of the art in those times (30 years back).
i don't care if the music uses some sort of unique effects if the music itself does not make you dream. Many of us don't know about effects and that shit, only melody and good music, music that makes us to sing and remember a melody.
perhaps it could be easier to make music for the people who loves music instead of people who only cares if the song uses some sort of sophisticated and boring effects.
and that is what makes someone a musician. when you get all people to sing that song.
i have no idea bout computer music engineeering, but I studied music and harmony for 5 years I know what I am talking about.
@@sashadiamond6638:
Well, ours was the 3rd in the compo-roster.
You know that this platform has severe limitations regarding quality of sound, do you? We're dealing with 8bit samples and at the "cutting edge" 22.8 kHz ADPCM streaming (on 68060 - AGA machines). Browsing through your channel I can safely asure you that you probably will not hear any metal/hair rock in an Amiga demo with acceptable quality outside of ADPCM streaming of a wav-file -- barring the occasional exception to the rule. Demos are not "music videos" but real time rendered audiovisual presentations. For the classic "show off" category a certain style of soundtrack has developed over time which I like to call "demotune". A typical example in this compo for a "show off demotune" would be "Knarkzilla" starting at 41:30.
Techno, considered as a music genre, wasn't even really present in the competition. Rather doskpop & chiptune, electronic (break)beat, drum & bass and even two-step sound inspired at the very end. These tunes are, inside the spectrum of electronic music, pretty far off from _Techno_ (e.g. Jeff Mills, Mike Ink, Underground Resistance etc.).
Now, chip-sounds and 80s inspired synthpop elements are *a staple element* in many Amiga demos, since it's a machine of its time and producing such music on the given native software comes very natural.
Finally, a demo is not there to present a musician (that's for music-disks/packs), and be asured that many of the musicians involved this competition are _professionals_ in real life.
Well, even though I do not see your answer in TH-cam, I can see it in my email, so I answer based on it.
It is not necessary that you base yourself on what you see on my channel, because I put what I feel at that moment.
I work as a singing teacher and, therefore, my roots are classical, (opera, classical music, etc).
One thing is what I like to hear in my spare time, and another thing is the music that I value...
I listen to a huge range of styles and I'm a great "mod" fan.
I did not want to offend you, but I wanted to say that I expected a change in the type of artistic design...
I saw Amiga demos about 20 years ago (through a former partner I had, and who I owe my fondness for the retro computer, but no more), I listened to the soundtracks of the demos, and I found them little "flashy"... maybe I should have kept my mouth shut, but since I was a child I was told that, if you have to say something, say it with respect and you will be listened, and so that I did ... it is my humble opinion, you will have yours, and the others theirs ... I may be wrong, but maybe I was looking for that musical retro-evolution ...
it's not a matter of sound quality (I know that the Amigas work at 22 Khz, it's not about that, there are mods in that format that are really amazing!), it's about proposing to evolve and do something that others do not... and, after listening to several demos, I can say that the music was quite similar to each other, and, therefore, not very remarkable ...
However, I praise the effort that this entails anyway.
Greetings! :-)
It's an interesting question. Melody and harmony, that is, the treatment of twelve fixed pitches, comprises just one dimension of composition, and depending on the musical paradigm, it is one that does not necessarily need to be prioritised. I'm not about to criticise something like a Romantic period aria for neglecting to foreground complex timbres and the development of polyrhythms - that would be completely ridiculous, obviously. Respect has to be a two-way street!
In all fairness, I have encountered people in the demoscene having similar complaints about music that lacks melody, but I would suggest that if melody is all they are looking for in music, then they are missing out. But that's up to them. There is a lot more to music than adherence to the European 'common practice' continuum and its privileging of melody and harmony. I happen to think that there are some really stunning pieces in some of the compo entries displayed here, particularly the one from Eon! :)