I made my own 3rd hand tool. The issue I have is keeping the right side cam from moving when tightening the axle nut. If/when it goes a little off, the rear wheel alignment will be off. I've taken to using a vise grip to hold it in place. That does work. Most of the time.
Check your preload on your Ohlins shocks. I dumped all the preload and suddenly it wasn't fighting itself sideways and tightened up without shifting any more. Just re-add the preload once torqued down properly. Hope that makes it easier for you in the future.
UPDATE …. harley upgraded their axle in 2020. It has newer cam plates and tighter tolerances with no play. Part # 43000213 also doc harley does a video on it th-cam.com/video/z_l0kZFtUD8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this video. I had the same problem and had no idea HD updated the axle and cam adjustment plate for 2020 and later and it’s a retrofit for 2014-2019. There should be a recall.
super fascinating i wonder why the stop is where it is instead of where you put the vice grips? does it need to fully rotate to be removed? could you get a welder to add a couple dabs of metal there to stop it rotating?
Ok I gotta ask, did you lift the rear off the ground when you loosened the axle nut and then retorque it to 20lbs, and then set the rear back on the ground full weight on it before you adjust the cam? And the only way I kept anything from moving when I retorqued to 100 lbs was a big 1" 3/8 wrench on the cam side pressured down while torquing, you did all this and still had this much trouble?
@ I actually did it on the lift with a lock spanner on left, but yes it still moves as there is some play in the cam. Apparantly the new design does not do this. Or you can get adjusters.
@evacoutdoors5867 I used to heat treat metal and we used to get a lot of blanks in like these cams, sometimes the machines that stamped these out wouldn't do the greatest job, because the company that ordered them cheaped out so I see where you are coming from, the cams I have on my 07' SG are bigger than any I've seen on the videos on TH-cam, but I have not had any problem adjusting the axle and it not staying knock on wood.
I have a 2014 streetglide and played HELL with the damn cams!!! Same problem!! Had to get Wifey out to hold the one side with box end wrench while I torqued the nut!! Pain in the f'ing Arse!! Gotta be a better way!!
I flipped my axel so my cams go the other way because my axel kept dropping the cams downwards and would cause way to much belt slack so now my cams go the other waynow they shouldn't loosen up.
After coming from a dirt bike background all they had to do was add a small lug on the swing arm and put notches in the cam plate. You then rotate the cam to the same notch on each side and do it up. Piece of piss. I’m doing mine now and can’t believe this is Harley’s engineering.
Cam adjuster Axle- 100% bullsht, And no hinge on rear fender to remove tire, (old school Harleys)- New engineers should be working flipping burgers instead of #ucking up Harleys.
I made my own 3rd hand tool. The issue I have is keeping the right side cam from moving when tightening the axle nut. If/when it goes a little off, the rear wheel alignment will be off. I've taken to using a vise grip to hold it in place. That does work. Most of the time.
Check your preload on your Ohlins shocks. I dumped all the preload and suddenly it wasn't fighting itself sideways and tightened up without shifting any more. Just re-add the preload once torqued down properly. Hope that makes it easier for you in the future.
UPDATE …. harley upgraded their axle in 2020. It has newer cam plates and tighter tolerances with no play. Part # 43000213
also doc harley does a video on it
th-cam.com/video/z_l0kZFtUD8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this video. I had the same problem and had no idea HD updated the axle and cam adjustment plate for 2020 and later and it’s a retrofit for 2014-2019. There should be a recall.
What is the current one like?
Your right it is a punch a bullshit to do that job right 👍.
super fascinating i wonder why the stop is where it is instead of where you put the vice grips? does it need to fully rotate to be removed? could you get a welder to add a couple dabs of metal there to stop it rotating?
literally going through the same thing right now.
I started to drill a hole thru both cams and frame and put a bolt thru to keep them in place!! They kept turning on me!! Design really sux!!
Love the passion
I am going to take mine off in the coming weeks , i will have my wife help me or by a axle adjuster kit from kraus
Ok I gotta ask, did you lift the rear off the ground when you loosened the axle nut and then retorque it to 20lbs, and then set the rear back on the ground full weight on it before you adjust the cam? And the only way I kept anything from moving when I retorqued to 100 lbs was a big 1" 3/8 wrench on the cam side pressured down while torquing, you did all this and still had this much trouble?
@@fremont66 yes
@@evacoutdoors5867 Dammit man
@ I actually did it on the lift with a lock spanner on left, but yes it still moves as there is some play in the cam. Apparantly the new design does not do this. Or you can get adjusters.
@evacoutdoors5867 I used to heat treat metal and we used to get a lot of blanks in like these cams, sometimes the machines that stamped these out wouldn't do the greatest job, because the company that ordered them cheaped out so I see where you are coming from, the cams I have on my 07' SG are bigger than any I've seen on the videos on TH-cam, but I have not had any problem adjusting the axle and it not staying knock on wood.
Why hasn’t Harley addressed this! Also the damn shock bolt in the way 🤦🏻♂️
I have a 2014 streetglide and played HELL with the damn cams!!! Same problem!! Had to get Wifey out to hold the one side with box end wrench while I torqued the nut!! Pain in the f'ing Arse!! Gotta be a better way!!
Thank you, this worked👍
I flipped my axel so my cams go the other way because my axel kept dropping the cams downwards and would cause way to much belt slack so now my cams go the other waynow they shouldn't loosen up.
I’m having a time with mine too. Broke 2 drive belts cause the mf won’t stay true
Hey man where can I buy these tools
Hardware store?
Because Harley-Davidson just wants your money they don't care about quality they don't care about you 💯
After coming from a dirt bike background all they had to do was add a small lug on the swing arm and put notches in the cam plate. You then rotate the cam to the same notch on each side and do it up. Piece of piss. I’m doing mine now and can’t believe this is Harley’s engineering.
Is there no safety pin keeping the nut from working off ?!?!?
There’s a snap ring keeping the nut from coming off..
100% agree
Same bullshit on 2008. Was fighting mine yesterday....
A1 cycles. M8 axle locks or big bear Axle locks will solve the issue
Cam adjuster upside down.
No
Cam adjuster Axle- 100% bullsht, And no hinge on rear fender to remove tire, (old school Harleys)- New engineers should be working flipping burgers instead of #ucking up Harleys.
They are horrible
Thanks for the help, this video would have been better if you had chosen not to use God's name is vain.