The concealment of the mirror was Dumbledore's work, not necessarily it's own. Mirror + wand. See what you truly want + power to seek it. Stone + pensive. Seeing things and people from your past. Cloak + veil. Protect you from death, until you are ready to face it by passing through.
I think you might be onto something with this theory, at least in the sense that there may be other, much older Deathly Hollows. I'm not saying you're wrong; but while watching your video I was thinking that all three objects have qualities that could qualify them as being in the "Resurrection Stone" place of the older Hollows. The person Death created the Stone for wanted to see a lost love who had died again right? Well all three of those other objects could be argued to do the same. If the thing you desired most was to see a certain dead person again, the mirror will show you them. The archway will allow to hear their voice again, and if you so desired, it will "take you" to see that dead person again. And finally the Pensieve will allow you to see that person again via reliving old memories. All three objects also can very easily lead one to an early death as well. Just some thoughts I had. Love the channel btw. My 7yo son and I just finished the Deathly Hollows part 2 movie last night. He has autism and isn't really into movies or kids shows, but he became interested in Harry Potter after I started watching your channel a few months back. I've never read the books and have decided to read them with him next. Thanks for all the great content 👍🏻
I once heard this theory of pre-hallows, I think from Super Carlin brothers, a great HP channel btw. But for me it is more reasonable that Pensieve is the parent of the Cloak, as it makes you invisible to the people around you, while the Mirror predates the Stone, as it allows you to see those passed away beloved.
4:31 while the shape is ok, i believe its closer to the resurrection stone, as both have to do with some kind of illusion or delusion in a sense. they both show or give something that isnt real - not sure how to say it, but the mirror shows thing's that are not, and may connect illusion to reality, while the stone resurrects the dead, but not the real person in their original form, so it connects reality with another illusion in some way
First: There’s more than one pensive. There’s more than one wand. There’s more than one cloak. And more than one way to 'bring back' the dead--remember in book six the spirits that encouraged Harry during the duel in the graveyard. Second: legends were first told orally, then written down. There’s a bit of truth behind "Cinderella". Third: this whole argument concerns a plot line of a truly fictitious tale. However, the dates and time lines of historical legend are often uncertain. Rowling has added a bit of realism to the confusing data concerning Beetle The Bard. Finally, you created a nice wild goose chase in the concept that there might be other Deathly Hallows. Great way to stir up viewers. It got me to comment. 😁 Good channel. Lots of interesting ideas.
This theory is in the realm of fan fiction, but its fun to imagine. I think that the "ancient" hallows would be more conected with ancient symbolism and magic. The triangle in sacred geometry means balance and harmony. In ancient witchcraft (before wicca) was the symbol of the sacred trinity that we can see manifested in a lot of religions (son, father and holy spirit; hekate: maiden, mother, crone; brahma, vishnu, shiva) and overall speaks about the cycles of life and its a manifestation of the divine (while mortal/physical comes in 4s). The circle means cycle, world, unity, focus in sacred geometry (ancient). It can also mean non material dimension in more recent occultism like in alchemy. Very similar meanings. The line is the hardest, the meaning is related to the line position and orientation rather than the line alone. Thats when we have to look to the elements symbols in Alchemy! The triangle means fire and look at this: The vertical line is azote (nitrogen) in Alchemy, which name came from greek and means no-life (a = no/i zote = life, the literal translation would be iliving as immortal and it kinda remembers non-being) because It cant be found on living beings. Anyway, let me get to the point lol The ancient deathly hallows would be: circle, the end of the cycle (mutable) - an eye: all seeing, an oracle and with the capability to make the owner go mad triangle, the mid of the cycle (fixed) - a shield: protection against all kind of attacks (greek myth) line, the start of the cycle (cardinal): - a tree: all knowledge of the universe in its fruit, a source of ancient magic and a portal to the non-being. But the fruit is forbidden for everyone other than its master, causing his death trough madness when other person eats it. And I love this bc It fits with Harry plot. His power is the protection spell, A SHIELD. The wand came from a tree and the Slytherin bloodline had a tree that grew from a wand, while the snake is associated with the forbidden fruit. It plays with the creation energy that is embodied by the wand. Magic trees are almost a literal ancestral to wands. And it also keeps the personality of each of the "gifted". The eye is humiliating. The tree is arrogant and greedy. The shield is smart and careful.
That relic in the Department of Mysteries with the egg hatching then dying indefinitely could also be a contender for an ancient analogue to the Resurrection Stone.
All three items are part of one big magical artifact. The veil is a door frame. The mirror is a door. And the pensive is a channeling device. Just a theory. Also think Dumbledore used all three items to make the Deluminator. Veil destroys light. Pensive recreates light and the mirror connected Ron to Hermione.
I think the resurrection stone would be more in tune with the archway. They both had a close connection to death. While the stone could only bring the dead back to life in a fleeting way, the arch could only allow travelers one way, that is, except for one, death incarnate himself. He is neither living, nor dead and thus the archway and the ring, were his means of travel between realms. At least, that is how I see it.
Maybe trade Mirror and Veil and you get: Veil=Invisibility Cloak (ultimately welcoming Death/death like the 3rd Brother. Also: "The Veil"/"cloak of Death"?) Mirror=Elder Wand (gives the user drive/greed to get what they most desire; Harry got the Stone because he wasn't greedy/he didn't want to use it/he wanted to protect it)
To be honest, I always had a feeling that that had to be more than to be deathly hallows so the theory that there are three even more interesting ones older than the three in the books/movies actually makes sense to me and each one that was measured, makes sense as the representations do it actually makes a lot of sense to me The mirror of us verse that I can I do see could represent that even older representation of what the invisibility cloak was, which was concealment and death from death and stuff. I can see the Ville that is in the department of measure is the Ville/Archway to the dead, if you look at sideways being the equivalent, who the elder wronged and yeah, the one way door to death but I also think would be right up the Sally in the fence if this makes sense when it comes to all the representation for the resurrections, John because they know they kind of have similarities so I can see you all that kind it to me a checks out makes sense to me and I’m gonna have to share this with my best friend who is even more obsessed with Harry Potter than I am and I can be up since I used to have to skip is rubbing up because I grab it or not so great household so Harry Potter for me with the escape prison, so I thought I had addiction issues. Lynne came to it and I was upset about it until I met my friend later in life, she’s even more possessed than me so one who’s there is escapism from a traumatic upbringing but yeah I can see how not only are they even older definitely how is that how those three iambs could be the movie makes sense to me to me and just checks out perfectly in Porten, wrong words ready Grandma are any of that legally blind so use in speech to text technology but it doesn’t always take probably plus I have a speech impairment because I was in trouble for mountain front phone call that had to take so if anything doesn’t seem right that’s why
I feel like the archway is better as the triangle, you'd need a replacement for the stick - though you could use the same logic and say it's the mirror from the side view lol
I'd honestly think the Ivisibility cloak would be countered by Alastor Moody's eye, it was certainly powerful enough for Umbridge to recover from his body and use, and it's powerful enough to reveal even a user of the true invisibility cloak. It'd naturally represent the circle however.
The opposite (maybe not the counterpart) of the cloak would be the "Madeye" eye, able to see through walls. I am not sure if its explained in history how was it created or by who
Honestly I felt the tales of beetle and the bards got it wrong, that the Peverel brothers modeled and created their hollows based on three items created by death
I'm inclined to think that the mirror of erised would more than likely show most people something different every time they looked into the mirror. Only those with an obsession would see the same thing every time. And we see that with Harry, who had been deprived of a loving family. Regarding the Pensive, I've it in mind that it's true intended use was to analyze dreams. The only info we have about the pensive is that Dumbledore used it to look back at memories. But looking at memories only, just seems far too limited to me.
I think the three ancient deathly hallows are 1 the vail to represent the elder wand but not the way you described it but because if you were hit by the elder wands killing curse like the vail instant death and unlike the other wands killing curse not even Harry Potter wouldn't survive it if Harry Potter wasn't its true master 2 the eye of mad eye moody because moody can see through Harry Potter's cloak 3 the room of requirement because like the cloak it can hide anything or anyone and if you look at the door of the room of requirement it looks like a triangle
Honestly i agree and disagree, elder wand-veil of death, R.stone-mirror of erised(dumbledore says men have wasted away looking before it) Cloak-i cant think of a counterpart but the above 2 i definitely think them.
The mirror could be the deathly off the cloak as it was triangle but the archway could be the resurrection star as you can hear the dead through as it is also made from stone and with memories with Dumbledore put as that could be the one as it holds all memories and dreams as much as powerful messages that anyone can know all secrets as with the memories and tears from Dumbledore Serious put stay tears
I would think the hallows would be things from myth, and might not necessarily fit the exact same shape as the others. For concealment: The Ring of Gyges mentioned in Plato. For the elder wand: Excalibur from Arthurian legend, or maybe the staff of Moses from the Bible. I'm not sure about resurrection. Maybe the Shroud of Turin? It does play a role in the most famous resurrection in human history, after all. While there are many beings said to raise from the dead in history and myth, there aren't a lot of them specifically associated with an object other than that. I could imagine the shroud of Turin allowing people to call back the dead. After all, it is the burial shroud of Jesus, who was said to raise from the dead for a period before his ascension. Perhaps his raising was similar to that of the people who get called back by the resurrection stone. Of course one needs to figure out how exactly these objects lost their hallow nature and gave it to the current hallows. In my book, I have a concept of "sacred relics" which are the physical conduits of fundamental laws of nature. They become that way by the fact that people collectively associate them with some aspect of these forces. For example, the Sword of Ehagsar became the conduit for the universal law of Repulsion because it was the sword famously wielded by one of Ipera's greatest heroes, a leader that kept out numerous Vandalian invasions. Being associated with that, it eventually came to symbolize resistant, repulsion of unwanted forces, etc. becoming one of the royal emblems of the Iperan emperor, and over time became the actual incarnation of Repulsion as a result. Any magic that utilizes that force as part of its casting is massively amplified, and the sword itself can basically cut through anything because there is a constant repulsive force emanating from the blade that just pushes apart anything it comes into contact with. It's the ultimate sword. In my book the objects must be destroyed in order for new ones to be created, but perhaps one way to destroy them is for belief in them to fade or be replaced by belief in something new. Perhaps if, say, the ring of Gyges were lost for long enough and its legend faded, it would start to lose its power until eventually it would no longer work, and a new "great concealer" would be created. The current hallows may actually have been made by purposely creating a very widespread legend about these objects that, otherwise, would be relatively ordinary. An old cloak, a somewhat unique wand, and a stone from the river normally aren't impressive, but if you tell a strong enough tall tale about them, such that a lot of mental- and therefore magical- energy is directed at them, they become something more. The lie becomes the truth.
Now that you bring it up, what are the odds that all three Deathly Hallows remained in the British Isles after all the centuries since their creation? Like, absolutely nobody ever thought to take them with them to mainland Europe? Does the fact they never left the Isles really mean that no wizard/witch anywhere else in the world was interested them? Serious leudonarrative dissonance.
I don’t think this theory is impossible. But you’re realy stretching for these connections. Super interesting theory though. Managed to keep me interested.
I'm pretty sure the supercarlin bros made videos saying similar about the vail but it was related to the stone because one brings the dead to you and the other takes you to the dead or something like that I'm half stupid so idk
I have doubts. AFAIK the pencive is not an unique item. The mirror is valid, but more as ressurection stone. Mamy People lost their minds looking into this mirror. For me better substitute for wand would be Griffindor sword and for cloak would be sorting hat. (part of clothing too). But the last one is still ify
So Dumbledore doesn't realize what's in front of him? In his youth he was obsessed with the deathly hallows. And they still have a strong pull on him (wearing the ring) Dumbledore had the Elder wand from the 2nd set of hallows. And he had the pensive & mirror from the 1st set. But he never figured it out??! Your other theory about the brothers is more believeable.
I don't think these three objects are hallows at all. It is possible though that there were other (ancient) hallows before, and can be made new ones also.
Before watching it you are going to say (i) the mirror of erised, (ii) the veil and (iii) the pensive… and then you are going to draw the wrong comparisons What you should say instead is that these objects inspired the deathly hallows (i) the mirror shows you your hearts desire, the wand gives you a tool to achieve it, (ii) the veil gives you a one way portal to death, the stone gives you a way to bring the dead back into the world of the living, and (iii) the pensive allows you to walk in memories invisible to people around you, the cloak gives you a way to be invisible in the present day I don’t think it is correct to say the Peverell brothers made the mirror, veil and pensive first, nor that the older artifacts were made by one group of people like the deathly hallows. But I think we are fairly safe to assume the Peverell brothers came across all three (the mirror, veil and pensive) and were inspired to make their own trio of powerful magical items.
Sorry but no, I'm afraid you've 'jumped the shark' in my view with this theory. (I'll keep an eye out for your next one though - not every one is going to hit every time.)
The concealment of the mirror was Dumbledore's work, not necessarily it's own.
Mirror + wand. See what you truly want + power to seek it.
Stone + pensive. Seeing things and people from your past.
Cloak + veil. Protect you from death, until you are ready to face it by passing through.
I think you might be onto something with this theory, at least in the sense that there may be other, much older Deathly Hollows. I'm not saying you're wrong; but while watching your video I was thinking that all three objects have qualities that could qualify them as being in the "Resurrection Stone" place of the older Hollows. The person Death created the Stone for wanted to see a lost love who had died again right? Well all three of those other objects could be argued to do the same. If the thing you desired most was to see a certain dead person again, the mirror will show you them. The archway will allow to hear their voice again, and if you so desired, it will "take you" to see that dead person again. And finally the Pensieve will allow you to see that person again via reliving old memories. All three objects also can very easily lead one to an early death as well. Just some thoughts I had.
Love the channel btw. My 7yo son and I just finished the Deathly Hollows part 2 movie last night. He has autism and isn't really into movies or kids shows, but he became interested in Harry Potter after I started watching your channel a few months back. I've never read the books and have decided to read them with him next. Thanks for all the great content 👍🏻
Brilliant! I never would have drawn these parallels.
I once heard this theory of pre-hallows, I think from Super Carlin brothers, a great HP channel btw. But for me it is more reasonable that Pensieve is the parent of the Cloak, as it makes you invisible to the people around you, while the Mirror predates the Stone, as it allows you to see those passed away beloved.
4:31 while the shape is ok, i believe its closer to the resurrection stone, as both have to do with some kind of illusion or delusion in a sense. they both show or give something that isnt real - not sure how to say it, but the mirror shows thing's that are not, and may connect illusion to reality, while the stone resurrects the dead, but not the real person in their original form, so it connects reality with another illusion in some way
I think you explained it very well😊
First: There’s more than one pensive. There’s more than one wand. There’s more than one cloak. And more than one way to 'bring back' the dead--remember in book six the spirits that encouraged Harry during the duel in the graveyard. Second: legends were first told orally, then written down. There’s a bit of truth behind "Cinderella". Third: this whole argument concerns a plot line of a truly fictitious tale. However, the dates and time lines of historical legend are often uncertain. Rowling has added a bit of realism to the confusing data concerning Beetle The Bard. Finally, you created a nice wild goose chase in the concept that there might be other Deathly Hallows. Great way to stir up viewers. It got me to comment. 😁
Good channel. Lots of interesting ideas.
This theory is in the realm of fan fiction, but its fun to imagine. I think that the "ancient" hallows would be more conected with ancient symbolism and magic.
The triangle in sacred geometry means balance and harmony. In ancient witchcraft (before wicca) was the symbol of the sacred trinity that we can see manifested in a lot of religions (son, father and holy spirit; hekate: maiden, mother, crone; brahma, vishnu, shiva) and overall speaks about the cycles of life and its a manifestation of the divine (while mortal/physical comes in 4s).
The circle means cycle, world, unity, focus in sacred geometry (ancient). It can also mean non material dimension in more recent occultism like in alchemy. Very similar meanings.
The line is the hardest, the meaning is related to the line position and orientation rather than the line alone.
Thats when we have to look to the elements symbols in Alchemy! The triangle means fire and look at this:
The vertical line is azote (nitrogen) in Alchemy, which name came from greek and means no-life (a = no/i zote = life, the literal translation would be iliving as immortal and it kinda remembers non-being) because It cant be found on living beings.
Anyway, let me get to the point lol
The ancient deathly hallows would be:
circle, the end of the cycle (mutable)
- an eye: all seeing, an oracle and with the capability to make the owner go mad
triangle, the mid of the cycle (fixed)
- a shield: protection against all kind of attacks (greek myth)
line, the start of the cycle (cardinal):
- a tree: all knowledge of the universe in its fruit, a source of ancient magic and a portal to the non-being. But the fruit is forbidden for everyone other than its master, causing his death trough madness when other person eats it.
And I love this bc It fits with Harry plot.
His power is the protection spell, A SHIELD.
The wand came from a tree and the Slytherin bloodline had a tree that grew from a wand, while the snake is associated with the forbidden fruit. It plays with the creation energy that is embodied by the wand.
Magic trees are almost a literal ancestral to wands.
And it also keeps the personality of each of the "gifted". The eye is humiliating. The tree is arrogant and greedy. The shield is smart and careful.
It's the same kind of thinking, it came from the author's mind, but different. Thank you, you put a lot of thought into this.
That relic in the Department of Mysteries with the egg hatching then dying indefinitely could also be a contender for an ancient analogue to the Resurrection Stone.
All three items are part of one big magical artifact. The veil is a door frame. The mirror is a door. And the pensive is a channeling device. Just a theory. Also think Dumbledore used all three items to make the Deluminator. Veil destroys light. Pensive recreates light and the mirror connected Ron to Hermione.
I think the resurrection stone would be more in tune with the archway. They both had a close connection to death. While the stone could only bring the dead back to life in a fleeting way, the arch could only allow travelers one way, that is, except for one, death incarnate himself. He is neither living, nor dead and thus the archway and the ring, were his means of travel between realms. At least, that is how I see it.
I would consider the resurrection stone to be the triangle and the invisibility cloak to be the circle.
Good video and interesting Ancient hallows, I thought the proto-Resurrection stone could be the Philosopher's stone, as it grants long life.
Maybe trade Mirror and Veil and you get:
Veil=Invisibility Cloak (ultimately welcoming Death/death like the 3rd Brother. Also: "The Veil"/"cloak of Death"?)
Mirror=Elder Wand (gives the user drive/greed to get what they most desire; Harry got the Stone because he wasn't greedy/he didn't want to use it/he wanted to protect it)
I think there was this theory at Super Carlin brothers channel and they had it like you suggested.
To be honest, I always had a feeling that that had to be more than to be deathly hallows so the theory that there are three even more interesting ones older than the three in the books/movies actually makes sense to me and each one that was measured, makes sense as the representations do it actually makes a lot of sense to me The mirror of us verse that I can I do see could represent that even older representation of what the invisibility cloak was, which was concealment and death from death and stuff. I can see the Ville that is in the department of measure is the Ville/Archway to the dead, if you look at sideways being the equivalent, who the elder wronged and yeah, the one way door to death but I also think would be right up the Sally in the fence if this makes sense when it comes to all the representation for the resurrections, John because they know they kind of have similarities so I can see you all that kind it to me a checks out makes sense to me and I’m gonna have to share this with my best friend who is even more obsessed with Harry Potter than I am and I can be up since I used to have to skip is rubbing up because I grab it or not so great household so Harry Potter for me with the escape prison, so I thought I had addiction issues. Lynne came to it and I was upset about it until I met my friend later in life, she’s even more possessed than me so one who’s there is escapism from a traumatic upbringing but yeah I can see how not only are they even older definitely how is that how those three iambs could be the movie makes sense to me to me and just checks out perfectly in Porten, wrong words ready Grandma are any of that legally blind so use in speech to text technology but it doesn’t always take probably plus I have a speech impairment because I was in trouble for mountain front phone call that had to take so if anything doesn’t seem right that’s why
The stone won't work for Voldemort because he had no one to love that died
Voldemort wasn't interested in the stone anyway
And the cloak would hold no interest bc his power lies in his visibility and fear that it inspires.
@@James-zo1uy he had it he just didn't noticed it was the ring that hold the part of his soul
Well done!
I feel like the archway is better as the triangle, you'd need a replacement for the stick - though you could use the same logic and say it's the mirror from the side view lol
Awesome as always thanks ❤
I'd honestly think the Ivisibility cloak would be countered by Alastor Moody's eye, it was certainly powerful enough for Umbridge to recover from his body and use, and it's powerful enough to reveal even a user of the true invisibility cloak. It'd naturally represent the circle however.
Very interesting-I agree with your theory!
The opposite (maybe not the counterpart) of the cloak would be the "Madeye" eye, able to see through walls. I am not sure if its explained in history how was it created or by who
Maybe the veil and the stone are connected as the line in the book says She was sad and cold, separated from him by a veil.
How did the Mirror keep death away? The mirror just tells you dreams, not how to avoid Death.
I totally thought you were going to say madeyes eye. The only thing we know of that can see through the cloak.
Honestly I felt the tales of beetle and the bards got it wrong, that the Peverel brothers modeled and created their hollows based on three items created by death
My first thought is the mirror of erised cant be that old, if it has modern English (around 1500~1800?)carved on it.
I'd rather think that the Mirror is very old, and this is a plothole:) Or Rowling didn't want to force the reader to parse Old English:)
I'm inclined to think that the mirror of erised would more than likely show most people something different every time they looked into the mirror. Only those with an obsession would see the same thing every time. And we see that with Harry, who had been deprived of a loving family. Regarding the Pensive, I've it in mind that it's true intended use was to analyze dreams. The only info we have about the pensive is that Dumbledore used it to look back at memories. But looking at memories only, just seems far too limited to me.
Oh, very good job!
I think the three ancient deathly hallows are 1 the vail to represent the elder wand but not the way you described it but because if you were hit by the elder wands killing curse like the vail instant death and unlike the other wands killing curse not even Harry Potter wouldn't survive it if Harry Potter wasn't its true master 2 the eye of mad eye moody because moody can see through Harry Potter's cloak 3 the room of requirement because like the cloak it can hide anything or anyone and if you look at the door of the room of requirement it looks like a triangle
Honestly i agree and disagree, elder wand-veil of death,
R.stone-mirror of erised(dumbledore says men have wasted away looking before it)
Cloak-i cant think of a counterpart but the above 2 i definitely think them.
The Mirror is closer to the stone function
The mirror could be the deathly off the cloak as it was triangle but the archway could be the resurrection star as you can hear the dead through as it is also made from stone and with memories with Dumbledore put as that could be the one as it holds all memories and dreams as much as powerful messages that anyone can know all secrets
as with the memories and tears from Dumbledore Serious put stay tears
I would think the hallows would be things from myth, and might not necessarily fit the exact same shape as the others.
For concealment: The Ring of Gyges mentioned in Plato.
For the elder wand: Excalibur from Arthurian legend, or maybe the staff of Moses from the Bible.
I'm not sure about resurrection. Maybe the Shroud of Turin? It does play a role in the most famous resurrection in human history, after all. While there are many beings said to raise from the dead in history and myth, there aren't a lot of them specifically associated with an object other than that. I could imagine the shroud of Turin allowing people to call back the dead. After all, it is the burial shroud of Jesus, who was said to raise from the dead for a period before his ascension. Perhaps his raising was similar to that of the people who get called back by the resurrection stone.
Of course one needs to figure out how exactly these objects lost their hallow nature and gave it to the current hallows.
In my book, I have a concept of "sacred relics" which are the physical conduits of fundamental laws of nature. They become that way by the fact that people collectively associate them with some aspect of these forces. For example, the Sword of Ehagsar became the conduit for the universal law of Repulsion because it was the sword famously wielded by one of Ipera's greatest heroes, a leader that kept out numerous Vandalian invasions. Being associated with that, it eventually came to symbolize resistant, repulsion of unwanted forces, etc. becoming one of the royal emblems of the Iperan emperor, and over time became the actual incarnation of Repulsion as a result. Any magic that utilizes that force as part of its casting is massively amplified, and the sword itself can basically cut through anything because there is a constant repulsive force emanating from the blade that just pushes apart anything it comes into contact with. It's the ultimate sword.
In my book the objects must be destroyed in order for new ones to be created, but perhaps one way to destroy them is for belief in them to fade or be replaced by belief in something new. Perhaps if, say, the ring of Gyges were lost for long enough and its legend faded, it would start to lose its power until eventually it would no longer work, and a new "great concealer" would be created. The current hallows may actually have been made by purposely creating a very widespread legend about these objects that, otherwise, would be relatively ordinary. An old cloak, a somewhat unique wand, and a stone from the river normally aren't impressive, but if you tell a strong enough tall tale about them, such that a lot of mental- and therefore magical- energy is directed at them, they become something more. The lie becomes the truth.
Now that you bring it up, what are the odds that all three Deathly Hallows remained in the British Isles after all the centuries since their creation? Like, absolutely nobody ever thought to take them with them to mainland Europe? Does the fact they never left the Isles really mean that no wizard/witch anywhere else in the world was interested them?
Serious leudonarrative dissonance.
Nah. You already used these objects in your theory about the brothers creating them... I like your original theory better
I don’t think this theory is impossible. But you’re realy stretching for these connections. Super interesting theory though. Managed to keep me interested.
In the wizard world there are multiple pensieves so that doesn't work.
I would say that the mirror better correspond to the resurrection stone.
The pensive is not a unique object right?
It it. Hogwarts was built around it.
correct. the pensive isn't a unique object. unless dumbledore lent his to Severus Snape for the occlumency classes. which would make no sense.
I'm pretty sure the supercarlin bros made videos saying similar about the vail but it was related to the stone because one brings the dead to you and the other takes you to the dead or something like that I'm half stupid so idk
I have doubts. AFAIK the pencive is not an unique item. The mirror is valid, but more as ressurection stone. Mamy People lost their minds looking into this mirror. For me better substitute for wand would be Griffindor sword and for cloak would be sorting hat. (part of clothing too). But the last one is still ify
The sword and the hat are not relics, we know who created them. Unlike these three.
So Dumbledore doesn't realize what's in front of him? In his youth he was obsessed with the deathly hallows. And they still have a strong pull on him (wearing the ring)
Dumbledore had the Elder wand from the 2nd set of hallows. And he had the pensive & mirror from the 1st set. But he never figured it out??!
Your other theory about the brothers is more believeable.
I don't think these three objects are hallows at all. It is possible though that there were other (ancient) hallows before, and can be made new ones also.
Wasn't this a theory 6 or 7 years ago?
Super Carlin brothers had it but in their version it was the Pensieve that predates the Cloak, and the Mirror - the stone, which seems better for me.
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Bit of a stretch my dude. Fun idea though.
interesting
Before watching it you are going to say (i) the mirror of erised, (ii) the veil and (iii) the pensive… and then you are going to draw the wrong comparisons
What you should say instead is that these objects inspired the deathly hallows (i) the mirror shows you your hearts desire, the wand gives you a tool to achieve it, (ii) the veil gives you a one way portal to death, the stone gives you a way to bring the dead back into the world of the living, and (iii) the pensive allows you to walk in memories invisible to people around you, the cloak gives you a way to be invisible in the present day
I don’t think it is correct to say the Peverell brothers made the mirror, veil and pensive first, nor that the older artifacts were made by one group of people like the deathly hallows.
But I think we are fairly safe to assume the Peverell brothers came across all three (the mirror, veil and pensive) and were inspired to make their own trio of powerful magical items.
Sorry but no, I'm afraid you've 'jumped the shark' in my view with this theory. (I'll keep an eye out for your next one though - not every one is going to hit every time.)