@@bloodraven9664 Cinnamon and a bit of sugar (honey or maple syrup are great choices, followed by turbinado and brown sugar). If you're eating plain oatmeal it's probably your first week in prison.
After Trinity, Mouse was my fave character. I think he goes first. I remember telling my friends at the rave that i feel like i am on the run from agents when i go into London running late to catch my fave djs. I do not know why yet i remember telling my friends when they asked something that i like Mouse because he is the front runner. Because he is the first one to take the exist and they are always the best in every movie. They almost make it a point to let the best ones go first.
advanced chemical analysis. to be honest though unless they were trying to fool people who'd lived in the real world beforehand i don't know why they'd bother, it doesn't need to be a perfect reconstruction, just real enough for most to not reject the program.
erie matic Listen. If they can fool people into feeling emotions such as love, anger, happiness and all kinds of genuine human perceptions inside the matrix then what food tastes like is no problem at all. The premise behind Mouse's logic is false. First of all it's not dead machines we're talking about here but an artificial intelligence, which judging by their technology and the very existence of the advanced world-wide neural simulation called Matrix is clearly several leagues ahead of our own. In reality the matter of what food tastes would be no issue for them. Second of all the idea that since artificial intelligence/machines don't eat they wouldn't have any idea how food tastes like (which btw is *highly subjective* even for humans since we have different tastes believe it or not) is silly. They obviously know how our taste glands function. WE know the chemical compound and molecules of different kinds of proteins, fats, carbs, minerals etc. Sugar tastes sweet not because WE think so but because our taste glands register them as sweet. In fact since we are so dependent on maintaining a level of blood sugar it's no wonder we crave sweet food and enjoy it so much. It's therefore not some "great mystery" how our six different taste buds can decipher what the composition of the food we're eating is made of and thus how it tastes. Fact is the eye is way more difficult organ trying to simulate. After all our retinas reflect light in different angles and from a color spectrum highly dependent on the medium it travels in. But since there is no natural light in the matrix how did the machines get THAT right?? Far more difficult. So are you seriously telling me that the vast artificial intelligence which have studied humans down to our tiniest molecules and also have the knowledge to create an ultra-advanced simulation are utterly clueless how our tastebud functions and how different chemical compounds would react with our tastebuds and thus get the taste? Fact is it would be far more likely they got our tastebuds perfectly working which would make us taste everything stronger and more intense than our real bodies. That being said it's no sweat programming in "random flaws" in the humans in the matrix so that they develop allergies, heart diseases, alzheimer's (shutting down the input signals one by one to mimic this horrible disease) , obesity etc etc. Another thing: People in the matrix obviously have families, children and grandchildren don't they? If the artificial intelligence/machines can make a program which perfectly mimics the gene-swapping which happens when a male and a female conceive a child and the child ends up looking more like either parent, how is figuring taste bugs and chemicals interacting a huge mystery for them?? Here's a funny thing, they'd also have to include infidelity with randomly conceived babies (since this does in fact happen in our reality with people being unaware of their actual fathers). This line sounds good if you don't think very much. Makes sense at face value. But once you start thinking it through it immediately becomes short-sighted and silly. "Mouse got a very good point" Only if you don't like to think it through. "Mouse is a very very underrated character." *Never ever* use "very" twice.
After watching one of those animatrix episodes, particularly the scene where the machines were experimenting the humans brain nerve functions. Then I don't want to imagine how they emulate the taste.
Put simply, all they'd have to do to mimic any of these things is take a few humans and attach nodes to measure their brain impulses, study the patterns when feeling certain sensations, tastes, sounds, etc. And stimulate those parts of the people's brains go force them to experience these things. So, if they want to simulate the taste of foods, all they'd have to do is take a few test subjects, hook them up with nodes to measure their brain activity, and feed them those foods, then record those brain impulses, find the common patterns between the test subjects and stimulate the brains of the people in the matrix to simulate the taste of food.
His death should've been written for one of the others. His escape of that hotel scene could've even been a play on his name, because mice are so quick, nimble, and smart at finding a way out of scenarios/puzzles.
Ironically he was written to be that one annoying character who talks so much that the viewer wouldn't wanna see more of. Yet gone are the days of talkers being annoying, we love to hear people talk nowadays and we're bored of the so called men of few words
@@bdou.8425 Please tell me you're joking. The most bizarre thing here is you. While you are at it look up with definition for the word "valid". You don't have a valid hypothesis much less a valid theory. If you're even serious to begin with, which I sincerely hope you're not.
@@yewisemountaingoat528 I don't understand the purpose of your agressiveness, I was not the one who created such hypothesis, I am just the messenger here. If you can edit your request in a polite way and write to me in a polite way, just like I am replying to you now, then I will promptly answer your request.
@@Shanethefilmmaker what the fuck . . . this has to be a coincidence. I've been to three different videos and this "death sticks" guy keeps following me. WHO the hell is he????
"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human". The depth of that and its ramifications throughout the whole story is fundamental. Especially with the leaked synopsis of the forth movie it becomes almost the most profound line in the entire franchise. Mouse literally solved the equation by pimping VR booty.
@Armathy well obviously don’t let them control you.. but that’s nigh impossible. Our impulses are meant to put us into action, they control our thoughts in a sense. To be disciplined is to channel those impulses in healthy ways, but the impulses still drive us… woah
Well, rather Mouse looked at the question with a fresh pair of eyes, and a simple view of things, not bogged down by previous history, conclusions or thinking. This is why often times when developing something, it's always good to bring in someone who hasn't seen it, touched it or know what it is, because they may see something rather simple that you dismissed or didn't even see it in the first place because your thought processed is kept up in the "higher level" thinking because you have been working on it so long.
I guess when you’ve spent your entire life in a pod and realise you’ve never been anywhere near the people you interacted with, they’d be big on getting together and not being far apart. Hell, if I was out of the matrix I’d never want to be alone like that again
Yeah good point. I am sure all of these actors would have wanted to reprise their roles for the sequels except the actor tank. He apparently made threats to production staff so he is blacklisted from Hollywood
Yeah part of the issue with the sequels was the Nebuchadnezzar crew consisting of almost no one at all. Just Neo, Trinity, Morpheus, and Link isn't enough. Would have been nice to have some of them survive instead of oh Cypher killed everyone. We get it, unplugging someone kills them and was shown. Then it just kept happening for no good reason.
Mouse: "to deny our own impulses, is to deny the very thing that makes us human.".... It's crazy how important and powerful that message was. It literally define and played a big part in the 4th movie. Mouse was very smart and very underrated.
That's actually not a good influence. He's telling Nero to sleep with a virtual prostitute to please his lustful desires which is a very immoral message to give to someone in real life. But this scene was mainly used for a joke and is to not be taken literally.
The statement "to deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human" suggests that our human nature is closely tied to our natural instincts and impulses. It implies that denying or suppressing these impulses can be seen as going against our fundamental human qualities. The statement highlights several ideas: Impulses as a fundamental part of human nature: It suggests that our impulses, desires, and instincts are an integral part of what it means to be human. These impulses can include basic survival instincts, as well as more complex emotional and social drives. Authenticity: It implies that embracing our impulses and desires can be a path to authenticity, as it allows us to acknowledge and express our true selves. Denying these impulses may be seen as repressing one's true nature or conforming to societal norms and expectations. Balancing impulses and self-control: While the statement emphasizes the importance of impulses, it doesn't necessarily advocate for unchecked or impulsive behavior. It's also important for humans to exercise self-control and make rational decisions to navigate the complexities of society and ethics. Whether the statement is accurate or not depends on one's perspective. It captures an aspect of human nature and personal authenticity but may oversimplify the complex interplay between our impulses, self-control, and societal norms. People often strive to strike a balance between honoring their instincts and conforming to rules and values that make society function harmoniously. Ultimately, human behavior is influenced by a wide range of factors, including individual differences, cultural norms, and personal values. While impulses are a part of what makes us human, it's also the ability to reflect, make choices, and exercise self-control that distinguishes us from mere automatons.
@@VideOhMonster Cute ideas. While I do agree that our impulses is what makes us human. To trust in our own impulses for life is not a good philosophy to keep. Human Beings will always be influenced by immoral beliefs.
@@ladshawn4534 In a world where machines rules and humans are hunted, you embrace the human aspect, even the most primal. You do everything you can do to set you apart from the enemies. Always took that line as something someone would say on a world like that, since the machine is the enemy, to deny what makes you human is to deny the few things you can hold on to and give you hope. The pretty tribal/primal dance + sex scene of Matrix Reloaded comes to mind, Matrix has a lot of scenes about embracing being human. So to take it as "immoral" would make sense in our world, you dont act upon your basic impulses, but here is a context to take into account.
Well, a good wet dream might have loosened him up a bit! You can still enjoy the enjoyable parts of The Matrix and not have to live in it...nor wake up to her in your bed the next morning! Hell! I think he was trying to do Neo a favor!
It also hints at the inherent problems of machines trying to design the matrix based on human perceptions. The can’t define perfection in coding and free choice is a problem they needed a workaround for. Mouse talking about chicken is actually a good springboard to discuss the inherent flaws the machines had when building the matrix. Some mild musing over breakfast and he’s surprisingly close to the truth of why the system of the matrix exists in its current state
Mouse sounds like the kind of guy who, when got out of the Matrix, instead of going "oh my god, everything I lived was a lie, my world doesn't exist 😭😭😭", he actually started to run everywhere screaming amazed: "HOLY FUCK, I WAS AT A SIMULATION, THAT'S SO INCREDIBLE, IS THIS REAL? AM I REAL? HAHAHAHA"
If it doesn’t have everything the body needs, you’re gonna have to explain Dozer and his massive gains. The dude basically lived on a ship with no workout equipment besides heavy parts and was completely ripped
I think they are all good actors. The actor that played Mouse character was extremely good. Everyone on that ship must be a little bit crazy even Tank. Think about this humanity nearly destroyed and humans living like rats in the sewer. Routines and constant fears must crash their very existence of everyone on this ship. It does not have the body needs is a very deep statement actually. They gave us this statement in a very funny way but still, it is.
One of the finest scenes of the movie, not because of the chitchat but because here we can actually see the characters having... Kinda human interactions.
Yeah honestly that sounds much better than what we have now where if you have sex someone gets pregnant and then depending on where you live can be a death sentence. Virtual sex no one gets hurt.
I read somewhere that the reason why they got rid of Tank’s character is because the actor that plays him is an insufferable, arrogant diva on the set and nobody wanted to deal with his shit. Too bad, I really liked Tank too. :/
Mouse: If you’d like to meet her, I can arrange a much more personalized milieu. Obi-Wan: You don't want to sell me the woman in the red dress. Mouse: *Uh, I don't wanna sell you the woman in the red dress.* Obi-Wan: You want to go home and re-think your life. Mouse: *I want to go home and re-think my life.*
@@JayJay-ye7icThey were always trans, and The Matrix quite fucking literally is an allegory for being trans. But it would also seem like their balls held all the good writing and directing abilities, which is how they managed to make The Matrix into a good movie with a secret, hidden message, and *not* a blunt in your face preachfest pretending to be a movie, like many modern woke shit nowadays. -The agents keep "deadnaming" everyone. (Calling Neo "Mr. Anderson") -The red pill is the same color as estrogen pills. -"Switch" was originally supposed to be male inside the Matrix but female in the real world. -One of the Wachowskis contemplated committing self-end by jumping under a subway train, but accepted who she was then an there. ("My name is Neo")
He does raise an interesting point that even smith brings up himself. He said some believed machines lacked the programming language to define perfection in a way the human mind would accept. its possible that could extend to tastes and smells while they just filled in the gaps with generic things. For all we know, “tastes like chicken” may have been a cliche phrase that didn’t exist before the matrix and people in Zion may have only picked it up as a result of the matrix. Imagine if we were on the matrix right now, without being able to compare to the real world the majority of us wouldn’t think something was wrong
their impulses would be so tricky to handle. you could permit them some time to have fun in the construct to boost morale because its all so dim and grim and they could all die at any moment, but it would also make them yearn a return to the matrix and become cyphers.
"It's a single celled protein combined with synthetic aminos, vitamins, and minerals." Here's what this actually means: "A single celled protein" - A protein obtained from growing a single celled organism. A bit like how quorn is made. "Combined with synthetic aminos" - Combined with extra amino acids. Using a single source for protein inevitably means that you're going to be low on certain amino acids (which make up proteins). Also, if their only calories come from protein, they'll need to add extra amino acids that convert more easily into carbohydrates and lipids. "Vitamins and minerals" - Vitamins and minerals are necessary for life.
@@yubuiltlidat4572 There was some discussion online about how people didn't know what the fuck was being said here, so I thought I would clear it up. Especially the phrase "single celled protein."
@Relinquished Calories come from the proteins and fat in the single celled organisms. Proteins in general, have the same amount of energy as carbohydrates, ~4kcal/g, fats have ~9kcal/g. When they say that the "single celled protein" contains "synthetic aminos" I'm assuming they need those extra amino acids to make up for deficits in the single celled protein, and also, not every amino acid can be burned in the Krebs Cycle. Some start being burned earlier on in the cycle producing more ATP, so I'm guessing there would be more of those. Depending on what cell type it is it should still have at least some fiber. Fungal cell walls have a lot of chitin which is similar in some ways to cellulose and can therefore act as fiber. Plant cell walls contain cellulose. Bacterial cell walls contain peptidoglycan, unfortunately peptidoglycan can't be used as fiber because it's digestible. Either way, these cells will also invariably contain at least some structural polymers which can act like fiber. I've heard of people consuming liquid diets, in which they drink all the vitamins, minerals, and calories they need like with a product called soyulent. Those people claim that they stop feeling hungry all the time and only defecate once a month or so, so they don't need as much fiber. What they're eating in the matrix looks a bit like these liquid meals and I would assume they would also stop shitting as much, and not be bothered too much with feeling full, massively reducing their need for fiber. So I think they guys aboard the Nebuchadnezzar are doing just fine.
The way Apoc tells Mouse to shut up bothers me every time. He was on a roll, making some insightful points and just got cut off at the knees for no real reason. It's pretty obvious it's because I identify with Mouse in that moment. I've been there. Too many times. Sometimes people just don't want to hear what you have to say.
The thing is Apoc, Switch and the rest of the crew probably heard the "tasty wheat", "chiken", and "woman in red" stories a hundred times. Plus theyre tired of eating that shit and living on the ship. Also Neo is trying to eat but Mouse keeps talking to him instead of giving him some space. That said, I would love to hear Mouse talking about his theories for hours. But those interactions between the crew make the scene seem more natural.
They're in a bleak apocalyptic place, forced to eat a really shitty meal and here's this dude fantasizing about how chicken and wheat tastes like. He was annoying everyone in the room.
To be fair, he played the joker in Snyder's justice league much better. The writers are to blame. They made Joker a gangster and a pimp, completely opposite of what he's supposed to be.
before u call my comment crazy this movie is of 1999 , and ur comment maybe 6 years old but most fan boys of matrix are 90s nut cases stuck in isolation often also in mommys diaper , deep in their 30s with a heavy shortage on vitamine D
I love how Dozier breaks down this food, ending his statement with “everything the body needs.” Yet he’s the only one not eating it…and he’s in the best shape!
One of my favorites... I always loved this scene. Mouse should have had a continue, they underestimated that character very much! That scene in particuar has a deep meaning, including the particular way Mouse process reality aparently different and even deeper from the others. They should create a paralel universe from The Matrix, featuring Mouse. That would be awsome! :)
They didnt use actual tasty wheat for the prop food. It was actually a fillipino desert they used for the prop food. Its called GINATAANG MAIS. Its made of coconut milk, galutinous rice, yellow or white corn, and sugar.
These movies needed more Mouse, it’s also a very interesting concept that maybe everything we taste in the matrix isn’t what it would taste like in the real world at all
Staring at the infamous “Bowl of Snot” mentally transports me into my friends basement 2005 - 2007. Nostalgia overload, triggered. Matrix Trilogy and 2005 King Kong are insanely nostalgic! ❤
1:28 That is 100% correct but if you wish to rise to a higher existence in both this life and the next, then denying the “impulses” which bind you to your current state of being is the key to achieving that. This is just common sense because if you spend all your time satisfying your senses rather than building the necessary skill, knowledge, Wisdom to succeed in some endeavour - you will never achieve your ultimate goals.
Why was Mouse one of the only characters in this movie who seemed, well, human? Like he actually had a discernible personality. They just had to off him...
You lose your humanity when you live like rats being hunted down by deathbots. He was still young enough to be human. Of course he had to die, it was impactful… being one of the only ‘human’ to die, so to speak!
Mouse was absolutely right in his question: How the hell would the Machines replicate every taste imaginable into the Matrix considering they have no taste buds ? .How could they replicate Sounds they could not conceive ? .Something that could emulate reality almost perfectly is too much for an Infinite amount of Machines to build .
I really liked Mouse. I was sad when he was killed off. He's exactly what the sequels were missing...personality and fun. Switch and Tank were really cool too(especially Tank).
No nut is dumb. It used to be no-shave november (or Movember) and the point was to raise awareness to prostate cancer and other male problems. Also, not nutting for a month is really bad for your health, so enjoy your "disciplined" pleasureless month ane prostate cancer.
I think they got the taste memory of how things tasted from humans' memory from electric brain signals when they connected the first humans to the matrix. and they have just been using the same "program" since.
0:57 his mannerisms reminds me of ledger's performance as the joker. Particularly that scene where joker crashes the mob's meeting during broad daylight.
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I eat oatmeal everyday thinking about this scene.
Same. I always call my oatmeal tasty wheat too
Wing Onn I found this video because I was eating oatmeal lol
Eating that bullshit right now for breakfast trying to diet lol
yeaah it taste like shit tho
@@bloodraven9664 Cinnamon and a bit of sugar (honey or maple syrup are great choices, followed by turbinado and brown sugar). If you're eating plain oatmeal it's probably your first week in prison.
“Pay not attention to these hypocrites Neo.”
Makes me wonder how many of them spent some quality time with the woman in the red dress ;)
10 times a day man. 10 times a day😏
That's because their libido faded so they want attention.
He seems like he gets a kick out of watching them hook up to the machine and blow their loads in their pants.
@@tonyweaver2353 I mean, looks to me like it's your personal fantasy buddy boi.
@@lukaszwinnicki6880 project harder kiddo
A shame the kid got wasted. I liked him.
I say it serves him right. Because he just had to disgust Neo about the stuff they have to keep eating.
After Trinity, Mouse was my fave character. I think he goes first. I remember telling my friends at the rave that i feel like i am on the run from agents when i go into London running late to catch my fave djs. I do not know why yet i remember telling my friends when they asked something that i like Mouse because he is the front runner. Because he is the first one to take the exist and they are always the best in every movie. They almost make it a point to let the best ones go first.
@@edenwithin8382 your comment is so prime
terrible is what it is...whats a shame is you reminding me. here its open ended (: bastad
Then he got replaced by the other kid. The kid who piloted the APU in Revolutions.
Mouse got a very good point. How did the machines can find the taste of chicken and "tasty wheat".
Mouse is a very very underrated character.
advanced chemical analysis. to be honest though unless they were trying to fool people who'd lived in the real world beforehand i don't know why they'd bother, it doesn't need to be a perfect reconstruction, just real enough for most to not reject the program.
erie matic Listen. If they can fool people into feeling emotions such as love, anger, happiness and all kinds of genuine human perceptions inside the matrix then what food tastes like is no problem at all. The premise behind Mouse's logic is false.
First of all it's not dead machines we're talking about here but an artificial intelligence, which judging by their technology and the very existence of the advanced world-wide neural simulation called Matrix is clearly several leagues ahead of our own. In reality the matter of what food tastes would be no issue for them.
Second of all the idea that since artificial intelligence/machines don't eat they wouldn't have any idea how food tastes like (which btw is *highly subjective* even for humans since we have different tastes believe it or not) is silly. They obviously know how our taste glands function. WE know the chemical compound and molecules of different kinds of proteins, fats, carbs, minerals etc. Sugar tastes sweet not because WE think so but because our taste glands register them as sweet. In fact since we are so dependent on maintaining a level of blood sugar it's no wonder we crave sweet food and enjoy it so much. It's therefore not some "great mystery" how our six different taste buds can decipher what the composition of the food we're eating is made of and thus how it tastes. Fact is the eye is way more difficult organ trying to simulate. After all our retinas reflect light in different angles and from a color spectrum highly dependent on the medium it travels in. But since there is no natural light in the matrix how did the machines get THAT right?? Far more difficult.
So are you seriously telling me that the vast artificial intelligence which have studied humans down to our tiniest molecules and also have the knowledge to create an ultra-advanced simulation are utterly clueless how our tastebud functions and how different chemical compounds would react with our tastebuds and thus get the taste?
Fact is it would be far more likely they got our tastebuds perfectly working which would make us taste everything stronger and more intense than our real bodies. That being said it's no sweat programming in "random flaws" in the humans in the matrix so that they develop allergies, heart diseases, alzheimer's (shutting down the input signals one by one to mimic this horrible disease) , obesity etc etc.
Another thing: People in the matrix obviously have families, children and grandchildren don't they? If the artificial intelligence/machines can make a program which perfectly mimics the gene-swapping which happens when a male and a female conceive a child and the child ends up looking more like either parent, how is figuring taste bugs and chemicals interacting a huge mystery for them?? Here's a funny thing, they'd also have to include infidelity with randomly conceived babies (since this does in fact happen in our reality with people being unaware of their actual fathers).
This line sounds good if you don't think very much. Makes sense at face value. But once you start thinking it through it immediately becomes short-sighted and silly.
"Mouse got a very good point" Only if you don't like to think it through.
"Mouse is a very very underrated character." *Never ever* use "very" twice.
After watching one of those animatrix episodes, particularly the scene where the machines were experimenting the humans brain nerve functions. Then I don't want to imagine how they emulate the taste.
@@yewisemountaingoat528 settle down there Morphius 😂
Put simply, all they'd have to do to mimic any of these things is take a few humans and attach nodes to measure their brain impulses, study the patterns when feeling certain sensations, tastes, sounds, etc. And stimulate those parts of the people's brains go force them to experience these things. So, if they want to simulate the taste of foods, all they'd have to do is take a few test subjects, hook them up with nodes to measure their brain activity, and feed them those foods, then record those brain impulses, find the common patterns between the test subjects and stimulate the brains of the people in the matrix to simulate the taste of food.
I wanted more Mouse. He had way more personality than most characters in this series.
Wish he had atleast taken a couple swat officers with him. His death felt meaningless :(
His death should've been written for one of the others. His escape of that hotel scene could've even been a play on his name, because mice are so quick, nimble, and smart at finding a way out of scenarios/puzzles.
@@mrodgt instead he became dead mouse
Mouse-Trapped
Ironically he was written to be that one annoying character who talks so much that the viewer wouldn't wanna see more of.
Yet gone are the days of talkers being annoying, we love to hear people talk nowadays and we're bored of the so called men of few words
Am I the only one who's brain just got blown from Mouse's amazing theory on what everything tastes like and everything tasting like chicken?
Whenever anyone says "Tastes like chicken." my first thought is always "That's just 'cause the machines couldn't figure it out."
@@slickstretch6391 The most bizarre thing for me is that there actually IS a valid theory saying that we live in simulation
The first time i saw this like 18 years ago it did
@@bdou.8425 Please tell me you're joking. The most bizarre thing here is you. While you are at it look up with definition for the word "valid". You don't have a valid hypothesis much less a valid theory. If you're even serious to begin with, which I sincerely hope you're not.
@@yewisemountaingoat528 I don't understand the purpose of your agressiveness, I was not the one who created such hypothesis, I am just the messenger here.
If you can edit your request in a polite way and write to me in a polite way, just like I am replying to you now, then I will promptly answer your request.
Mouse later went on to sell Death Sticks to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Holy shit it was him. At least that guy went home to rethink his life. Poor Mouse went shooting cops.
Haha brilliant!
@@Shanethefilmmaker what the fuck . . . this has to be a coincidence. I've been to three different videos and this "death sticks" guy keeps following me. WHO the hell is he????
lmao
And after that he made some zombie hunting with ivan drago/gunner.
I feel like the sequels were missing light hearted moments like this.
We had the famous : "Cookies need love like everything does !"
Second one had some good action scenes though.
Link was good but Tank was awesome and the kid was like a wannabe Mouse
@@gorginhansonthat freeway chase scene alone sold the movie for me.
But it had another profund moment in which the merovingian was talking about the free will
"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human". The depth of that and its ramifications throughout the whole story is fundamental. Especially with the leaked synopsis of the forth movie it becomes almost the most profound line in the entire franchise. Mouse literally solved the equation by pimping VR booty.
You really rounded off your comment with that last sentence. Nice.
@Armathy Damn mind blown 👌
@Armathy well obviously don’t let them control you.. but that’s nigh impossible. Our impulses are meant to put us into action, they control our thoughts in a sense. To be disciplined is to channel those impulses in healthy ways, but the impulses still drive us… woah
Well, rather Mouse looked at the question with a fresh pair of eyes, and a simple view of things, not bogged down by previous history, conclusions or thinking. This is why often times when developing something, it's always good to bring in someone who hasn't seen it, touched it or know what it is, because they may see something rather simple that you dismissed or didn't even see it in the first place because your thought processed is kept up in the "higher level" thinking because you have been working on it so long.
Thats right!
I like how they still gather around the table to eat the meal together. Theyre not at theyre station or in their room eating alone.
I guess when you’ve spent your entire life in a pod and realise you’ve never been anywhere near the people you interacted with, they’d be big on getting together and not being far apart. Hell, if I was out of the matrix I’d never want to be alone like that again
Well they’re fighting a war so it helps build camaraderie.
They're kind of an army, and in the army everyone eats together when its chow time
Only Cipher was separated from the rest. Very curious
@@vexxama in one of the later two films Zion has a huge party/orgy, so you're spot on
That's why The Matrix is among the best. Even in the little 'nothing' scenes, the film is trying to mindfuck us.
Or set you free?
AMOGUS
This is not a 'nothing' scene, Mouse is actually pointing a very interesting subject that is recuring along the 3 movies.
I think this is the most important scene in all the movies
1:24 I love the implication that they’ve all used the program
I love that Dozer is basically the parent telling the kids to eat their vegetables.
I'm so pissed almost everyone got killed in this room, their chemistry was amazing
Yeah good point. I am sure all of these actors would have wanted to reprise their roles for the sequels except the actor tank. He apparently made threats to production staff so he is blacklisted from Hollywood
@@Supreme-gu1jzAnd the operator role is taken over by Link
Yeah part of the issue with the sequels was the Nebuchadnezzar crew consisting of almost no one at all. Just Neo, Trinity, Morpheus, and Link isn't enough. Would have been nice to have some of them survive instead of oh Cypher killed everyone. We get it, unplugging someone kills them and was shown. Then it just kept happening for no good reason.
@@Supreme-gu1jzI read he wanted lots of money too, he felt like he made The Matrix shine because of his presence lmao dude is crazy
"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human". What a statement
Mouse added something special to this movie. Genuine enthusiasm in a bleak world
Fun fact- in a scene in Matrix Revolutions you can spot an ad for "Tastee Wheat". The tag line is "Everything the body needs"
Mouse: "to deny our own impulses, is to deny the very thing that makes us human.".... It's crazy how important and powerful that message was. It literally define and played a big part in the 4th movie. Mouse was very smart and very underrated.
That's actually not a good influence. He's telling Nero to sleep with a virtual prostitute to please his lustful desires which is a very immoral message to give to someone in real life. But this scene was mainly used for a joke and is to not be taken literally.
The statement "to deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human" suggests that our human nature is closely tied to our natural instincts and impulses. It implies that denying or suppressing these impulses can be seen as going against our fundamental human qualities.
The statement highlights several ideas:
Impulses as a fundamental part of human nature: It suggests that our impulses, desires, and instincts are an integral part of what it means to be human. These impulses can include basic survival instincts, as well as more complex emotional and social drives.
Authenticity: It implies that embracing our impulses and desires can be a path to authenticity, as it allows us to acknowledge and express our true selves. Denying these impulses may be seen as repressing one's true nature or conforming to societal norms and expectations.
Balancing impulses and self-control: While the statement emphasizes the importance of impulses, it doesn't necessarily advocate for unchecked or impulsive behavior. It's also important for humans to exercise self-control and make rational decisions to navigate the complexities of society and ethics.
Whether the statement is accurate or not depends on one's perspective. It captures an aspect of human nature and personal authenticity but may oversimplify the complex interplay between our impulses, self-control, and societal norms. People often strive to strike a balance between honoring their instincts and conforming to rules and values that make society function harmoniously.
Ultimately, human behavior is influenced by a wide range of factors, including individual differences, cultural norms, and personal values. While impulses are a part of what makes us human, it's also the ability to reflect, make choices, and exercise self-control that distinguishes us from mere automatons.
@@VideOhMonster Cute ideas. While I do agree that our impulses is what makes us human. To trust in our own impulses for life is not a good philosophy to keep. Human Beings will always be influenced by immoral beliefs.
Hmmm
@@ladshawn4534 In a world where machines rules and humans are hunted, you embrace the human aspect, even the most primal. You do everything you can do to set you apart from the enemies. Always took that line as something someone would say on a world like that, since the machine is the enemy, to deny what makes you human is to deny the few things you can hold on to and give you hope. The pretty tribal/primal dance + sex scene of Matrix Reloaded comes to mind, Matrix has a lot of scenes about embracing being human.
So to take it as "immoral" would make sense in our world, you dont act upon your basic impulses, but here is a context to take into account.
I don't know why he told Mouser to shut up, that may be the most interesting part of the movie.
Cause while mouse was being nice its still a lot for neo to take In the whole matrix thing so to hammer him is a lot so apoc just wanted to stop him
Well, a good wet dream might have loosened him up a bit! You can still enjoy the enjoyable parts of The Matrix and not have to live in it...nor wake up to her in your bed the next morning! Hell! I think he was trying to do Neo a favor!
He probably gave that speech half a dozen times already and they're getting tired of it
It also hints at the inherent problems of machines trying to design the matrix based on human perceptions. The can’t define perfection in coding and free choice is a problem they needed a workaround for. Mouse talking about chicken is actually a good springboard to discuss the inherent flaws the machines had when building the matrix. Some mild musing over breakfast and he’s surprisingly close to the truth of why the system of the matrix exists in its current state
@@PizzaShoes it wasn't the most respectful way to do it though, and so Mouse barely stopped because he didn't get it lmao
Switch and Apoc seemed annoyed by him but they actually love him. They're like his mom and dad, even
Thought so!
He was the youngest of them all. I imagine around 17-21. The actor was 21 at the time of filming too. Safe to say, mouse and the kid are the same age.
*Epoch
@@onatkorucu842It’s Apoc
Mouse sounds like the kind of guy who, when got out of the Matrix, instead of going "oh my god, everything I lived was a lie, my world doesn't exist 😭😭😭", he actually started to run everywhere screaming amazed: "HOLY FUCK, I WAS AT A SIMULATION, THAT'S SO INCREDIBLE, IS THIS REAL? AM I REAL? HAHAHAHA"
Mouse had a good idea to have fun with all this
@@marcinzysko1653 shame he had to go you really need that one optimistic kid who can keep everyone going
hahha that's definitely it
Wasnt mouse born in zion?
@@RMMaryport no... coz he had ports to connect to the Matrix...
This piece of acting is an authentic masterpiece from Mr. Matt Doran. So well played
I dunno, the acting feels a bit over the top now that I'm looking at it under a microscope 🤔
@@felphero how is this "over the top" in any way whatsoever
“To deny our own impulses, is to deny the very thing that makes us human.”
Pretty much. Human interaction, both superficial and _intimate,_ keeps you sane. We are a social species.
If it doesn’t have everything the body needs, you’re gonna have to explain Dozer and his massive gains. The dude basically lived on a ship with no workout equipment besides heavy parts and was completely ripped
They guy is talking about coochi, the body doesn't just need nutrienta
He went to the Matrix global gym!
It's not real dude, it's a movie hahaha
@@servantprince Oh really? I thought this was a documentary. Thanks, the world would be lost without you
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443yeah but the previous user was talking about the buff dude, not Mouse.
I think they are all good actors. The actor that played Mouse character was extremely good. Everyone on that ship must be a little bit crazy even Tank. Think about this humanity nearly destroyed and humans living like rats in the sewer. Routines and constant fears must crash their very existence of everyone on this ship. It does not have the body needs is a very deep statement actually. They gave us this statement in a very funny way but still, it is.
th-cam.com/video/JlN70diuy6k/w-d-xo.html TINE TO WAKE UP
More than half these characters in this scene were enjoying each other's company, unaware this was to be their final meal 😢.
All we need in the Matrix is Now and Neo. 😎
Mouse was my favorite character in the first one. He was the only one with real personality.
I agree
One of the finest scenes of the movie, not because of the chitchat but because here we can actually see the characters having... Kinda human interactions.
If I find myself in a post-apocalyptic world, I'd never judge someone for hooking up with a virtual woman.
we aint that far away from it
we're already doing it brother
Yeah honestly that sounds much better than what we have now where if you have sex someone gets pregnant and then depending on where you live can be a death sentence. Virtual sex no one gets hurt.
@@Osjeyhell yeah, virtual girlfriends are cool.
I would u lame fk
The way Mouse is eyeballing Neo is priceless!
Mouse looks like the scout from tf2...
The fucked too?
It be like that
I can't unsee this! xD
jesus he has the same vibe too
I really hope they bring back some of the characters that never got a proper storyline in the new matrix including Mouse and Tank
I read somewhere that the reason why they got rid of Tank’s character is because the actor that plays him is an insufferable, arrogant diva on the set and nobody wanted to deal with his shit. Too bad, I really liked Tank too. :/
Mouse: If you’d like to meet her, I can arrange a much more personalized milieu.
Obi-Wan: You don't want to sell me the woman in the red dress.
Mouse: *Uh, I don't wanna sell you the woman in the red dress.*
Obi-Wan: You want to go home and re-think your life.
Mouse: *I want to go home and re-think my life.*
yo ong, i just saw a comment on the bar scene from ATOC that referenced this same thing 😂💀
The way how Mouse acts reminds me of Heath Ledger's Joker.
This scene alone is better than the entire 4th movie.
Once the Wachowski's became chicks I thought to myself "end of an era". Shame I was right
@@JayJay-ye7ic tHe MaTriX iS a MeTaPhOrE FoR DiScOvERiNg tHaT YoU aRe tRaNs
@@JayJay-ye7ic A man in a dress is not a chick.
@@ArchedgarFr
@@JayJay-ye7icThey were always trans, and The Matrix quite fucking literally is an allegory for being trans.
But it would also seem like their balls held all the good writing and directing abilities, which is how they managed to make The Matrix into a good movie with a secret, hidden message, and *not* a blunt in your face preachfest pretending to be a movie, like many modern woke shit nowadays.
-The agents keep "deadnaming" everyone. (Calling Neo "Mr. Anderson")
-The red pill is the same color as estrogen pills.
-"Switch" was originally supposed to be male inside the Matrix but female in the real world.
-One of the Wachowskis contemplated committing self-end by jumping under a subway train, but accepted who she was then an there. ("My name is Neo")
He does raise an interesting point that even smith brings up himself. He said some believed machines lacked the programming language to define perfection in a way the human mind would accept. its possible that could extend to tastes and smells while they just filled in the gaps with generic things. For all we know, “tastes like chicken” may have been a cliche phrase that didn’t exist before the matrix and people in Zion may have only picked it up as a result of the matrix. Imagine if we were on the matrix right now, without being able to compare to the real world the majority of us wouldn’t think something was wrong
The acting here- specifically the timing and delivery, are just really really really good.
Careful directing!
All of the original matrix crew members are legends, even cypher.
I reckon Heath Ledger got inspiration from Mouse at 0:56 for the Joker in The Dark Knight
Hes copying Mouse!
"I'm not... no I'm... notT"
This comment should blow up the internet.
I was just thinking to myslef he would be good joker
I literally thought the exact same thing hahaha
That voice is eerily similar
How he eludes to human nature is genius
That's what I like in this movie: Even the first dude to die has an interesting personality
I felt more emotion when mouse died than thought the entire last movie...
I wish we got more time with the crew.
I think Heath Ledger’s Joker is based on Mouse lol
Actually is based on Brandon Lee's crow
Felt the same way
I was looking for this comment because I thought the same. Especially the scene from 0:58
Apart his obvious talent, his friendly hospitality toward Neo is admirable
Mouse really reminds me of scout from TF2 just by the looks
true indeed
SPOILER WTF😠😡🙏🤯
their impulses would be so tricky to handle. you could permit them some time to have fun in the construct to boost morale because its all so dim and grim and they could all die at any moment, but it would also make them yearn a return to the matrix and become cyphers.
Mouse is low-key my favourite crew member, it always makes me so sad that he dies first.
The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.
trigo rico
What kind of hamburgers?
@@piano_master_5246 Big Kahuna Burgers
Big Kahuna Burger. That's that Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers. I ain't never had one myself. How are they?
@@GamingLovesJohn they're good
Poor Mouse, he is so underrated, don’t worry you’re my number one with Switch. 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Switch is such a feminist jerk.
It’s only a minute and half but is still one of my favourite scenes from the movie
I feel like even as a kid, and now as an adult, I really identify with his way of thinking and articulation
"It's a single celled protein combined with synthetic aminos, vitamins, and minerals." Here's what this actually means:
"A single celled protein" - A protein obtained from growing a single celled organism. A bit like how quorn is made.
"Combined with synthetic aminos" - Combined with extra amino acids. Using a single source for protein inevitably means that you're going to be low on certain amino acids (which make up proteins). Also, if their only calories come from protein, they'll need to add extra amino acids that convert more easily into carbohydrates and lipids.
"Vitamins and minerals" - Vitamins and minerals are necessary for life.
Okey budddddyyy
@@yubuiltlidat4572 There was some discussion online about how people didn't know what the fuck was being said here, so I thought I would clear it up. Especially the phrase "single celled protein."
@Relinquished Calories come from the proteins and fat in the single celled organisms. Proteins in general, have the same amount of energy as carbohydrates, ~4kcal/g, fats have ~9kcal/g. When they say that the "single celled protein" contains "synthetic aminos" I'm assuming they need those extra amino acids to make up for deficits in the single celled protein, and also, not every amino acid can be burned in the Krebs Cycle. Some start being burned earlier on in the cycle producing more ATP, so I'm guessing there would be more of those. Depending on what cell type it is it should still have at least some fiber. Fungal cell walls have a lot of chitin which is similar in some ways to cellulose and can therefore act as fiber. Plant cell walls contain cellulose. Bacterial cell walls contain peptidoglycan, unfortunately peptidoglycan can't be used as fiber because it's digestible. Either way, these cells will also invariably contain at least some structural polymers which can act like fiber.
I've heard of people consuming liquid diets, in which they drink all the vitamins, minerals, and calories they need like with a product called soyulent. Those people claim that they stop feeling hungry all the time and only defecate once a month or so, so they don't need as much fiber. What they're eating in the matrix looks a bit like these liquid meals and I would assume they would also stop shitting as much, and not be bothered too much with feeling full, massively reducing their need for fiber.
So I think they guys aboard the Nebuchadnezzar are doing just fine.
@@Crowbars2 nice post m8
@@altair123lol6 :D You really forwarded the discussion with your comment m8
The way Apoc tells Mouse to shut up bothers me every time. He was on a roll, making some insightful points and just got cut off at the knees for no real reason.
It's pretty obvious it's because I identify with Mouse in that moment. I've been there. Too many times. Sometimes people just don't want to hear what you have to say.
username checks out!
@@sebastiaanlumanauw5012 In the last year I learned that I can yell loud enough that anyone will listen.
God bless the USA.
The thing is Apoc, Switch and the rest of the crew probably heard the "tasty wheat", "chiken", and "woman in red" stories a hundred times. Plus theyre tired of eating that shit and living on the ship. Also Neo is trying to eat but Mouse keeps talking to him instead of giving him some space.
That said, I would love to hear Mouse talking about his theories for hours. But those interactions between the crew make the scene seem more natural.
They're in a bleak apocalyptic place, forced to eat a really shitty meal and here's this dude fantasizing about how chicken and wheat tastes like. He was annoying everyone in the room.
@@1bbnnkk sounds like a bunch of them should've downed the blue pill
1:13 VR admins when their custom avatar gets a few more downloads.
I liked Mouse. I wish he had more screen shots of him. Very likeable character. I was sad he got killed so early.
Right at the very end at 1:34 where mouse’s face freezes. That’s what everyone should think of when they think of the matrix.
Why?
The guy who plays Mouse would've played a good Joker. Far better than Jared Leto.
Who The hell is Jerry lettuce?
@@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838 Jerry Lettuce is the bee movie guy I think
K, I have a near omniscient feeling_*ANYONE*_ would have worked better than Leto at this point
To be fair, he played the joker in Snyder's justice league much better. The writers are to blame. They made Joker a gangster and a pimp, completely opposite of what he's supposed to be.
I was looking for this comment! Glad I wasn’t the only one. Maybe Heath Ledger was inspired by this scene..
I hate that almost everyone in this scene got killed, they were such good characters.
I haven't thought of this scene in years and the moment I think of it, hours later it pops on my feed.
The Matrix has you 😎
I just noticed that no one that talked in this scene made it to see the second movie
MisterAbadede neo talked 1:12
@@OdileOdile19 except neo
Also Cypher was silent the entire time. And we all know how that turned out, lol!
before u call my comment crazy this movie is of 1999 , and ur comment maybe 6 years old but most fan boys of matrix are 90s nut cases stuck in isolation often also in mommys diaper , deep in their 30s with a heavy shortage on vitamine D
@@bloodraven9664 Fuck you
I love how Dozier breaks down this food, ending his statement with “everything the body needs.” Yet he’s the only one not eating it…and he’s in the best shape!
I love him, he died like a badass ,in a gangster suit , shooting two cool 1930's machine guns knowing he wasn't going to make it.
He didnt kill any of the cops tho :(
Everything Mouse said is absolute gold.
One of my favorites... I always loved this scene. Mouse should have had a continue, they underestimated that character very much! That scene in particuar has a deep meaning, including the particular way Mouse process reality aparently different and even deeper from the others. They should create a paralel universe from The Matrix, featuring Mouse. That would be awsome! :)
@edntz why boy?
They didnt use actual tasty wheat for the prop food. It was actually a fillipino desert they used for the prop food. Its called GINATAANG MAIS. Its made of coconut milk, galutinous rice, yellow or white corn, and sugar.
Umm, EVERYTHING the body needs???
😅
"to deny our own impulses, is to deny that which makes us human"
What do you think about impulses in the context of th-cam.com/video/Yo4WF3cSd9Q/w-d-xo.html
These movies needed more Mouse, it’s also a very interesting concept that maybe everything we taste in the matrix isn’t what it would taste like in the real world at all
I had such a hardon for Mouse when I first saw the movie (I was like 11 or 12). Broke my heart when he got killed...
Yonkage gay
@@drop_out173yt2 homophobe
@@drop_out173yt2 wow, did you figure that out all by yourself?
@@witchqueenofavalon wow he is a homophobe
Utterly gay.
I had a crush on Mouse as a kid. He’s adorkable.
Aww. You’re pretty too. You would be his Woman in the Red Dress, huh?
I can see this guy as a young Cletus Kassady or Joker
Staring at the infamous “Bowl of Snot” mentally transports me into my friends basement 2005 - 2007. Nostalgia overload, triggered. Matrix Trilogy and 2005 King Kong are insanely nostalgic! ❤
"Pay no attention to these hypocrites" LOL
Still, easily, one of the BEST films, ever.
It’s a single celled protein combined with synthetic aminos vitamins and minerals,everything the body needs.
I said this to my friend when we were in prison eating some nasty ass jail food one time 😂😂
eating oatmeal right now , always makes me think of rambling about tasty wheat while i eat it..
It doesn't have everything the body needs, to deny our impulses is deny what makes us human, which brings us to the woman in the red dress...
It gets more prescient every day. To deny our impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human. fucking excellent
Mouse is GOAT
1:28 That is 100% correct but if you wish to rise to a higher existence in both this life and the next, then denying the “impulses” which bind you to your current state of being is the key to achieving that. This is just common sense because if you spend all your time satisfying your senses rather than building the necessary skill, knowledge, Wisdom to succeed in some endeavour - you will never achieve your ultimate goals.
Any body else notice that Cipher is not eating whit them?
yeah well i guess he's sort of chef on this ship
Actually it's because he ate Steak earlier.
Lmao He been said "fuck these motherfuckers on this ship!"
Good catch
his actually in the shot, the opening of the scene we can see him preparing something with his back to us
"Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"
Why was Mouse one of the only characters in this movie who seemed, well, human? Like he actually had a discernible personality.
They just had to off him...
You lose your humanity when you live like rats being hunted down by deathbots. He was still young enough to be human. Of course he had to die, it was impactful… being one of the only ‘human’ to die, so to speak!
Mouse was absolutely right in his question: How the hell would the Machines replicate every taste imaginable into the Matrix considering they have no taste buds ? .How could they replicate Sounds they could not conceive ? .Something that could emulate reality almost perfectly is too much for an Infinite amount of Machines to build .
I can never think about food the same way. Thanks Mouse.
0:49 Mouse is right
I really liked Mouse. I was sad when he was killed off. He's exactly what the sequels were missing...personality and fun. Switch and Tank were really cool too(especially Tank).
It bothers me immensely that Mouse has nothing in his mouth but continues to chew throughout the entire scene. Lol
Drugs.
Oh, Mouse, more significant and better written than any character in the sequels...
They use sporks!
...for something that can't be forked no less.
@@abates3747 Because ... there is no spoon!
Everything the dining table needs
Can't unsee Carrie Ann Moss just eating nothing in the background.
"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human" -mouse....happy No Nut November everyone. 🖖
Self discipline is also what makes us human
@@Sejikan your mother makes me human
@@mou5ecop valid argument
No nut is dumb.
It used to be no-shave november (or Movember) and the point was to raise awareness to prostate cancer and other male problems.
Also, not nutting for a month is really bad for your health, so enjoy your "disciplined" pleasureless month ane prostate cancer.
@@BaulSDA and no nut November is to raise awareness to the issue of porn and masturbation addiction
This scene was originally in 1984.... its the scene in the cafeteria when the fellow comrade is explaining that what they are eating isnt really meat.
😮
there is always an inspiration for anything .
@@marcusmeins1839 as they say “good artists borrow, great artists steal.”
I want to hear more of this conversation! Why would anyone shut up such fascinating speculation about the matrix?
Neo is probably thinking “I should have taken the blue pill”
I think they got the taste memory of how things tasted from humans' memory from electric brain signals when they connected the first humans to the matrix. and they have just been using the same "program" since.
Just finished my oatmeal
That guy would make a great joker
0:57 his mannerisms reminds me of ledger's performance as the joker. Particularly that scene where joker crashes the mob's meeting during broad daylight.
I am not a human being. -Weezy f baby