The doctor could be out fishing and Abigail could still be cleaning the doctor's office lol he doesn't need to be there to watch her clean 😂 in fact most offices are closed when people are in there cleaning. When have you ever gone to the doctor and seeing the janitor walking around? Furthermore I would add that her attire seems entirely proper for the time. People dressed up all the time even labors. I also tend to agree she was probably ordering the shirt.
The doctor gone fishing is an Easter egg that pay tribute to the first game before rdr1, red dead revolver I think it’s called. In that game very place said that it was closed for different reasons “Gone Fishing” being one of the excuses.
You know, I always thought Arthur and Abigail would be sometime. I guess rockstar didn’t want to do that, but I thought it would be a better suit because John Martian is a SOB
A better fit? Sorry, but Arthur's an IDIOT. Consider him and Mary Linton. That whole sub story shows how MUCH of an idiot he is. A guy who would put gang loyalty, which is EVER being undermined by the events that play out, over taking up a new life with a woman who CLEARLY loves him. It's not like that sub story is over "before" he knows that Dutch is only really in things for himself. Or before he KNOWS the gang is doomed to splinter. He knows both of those things and is still like "Sorry darling, I wish I could, but I got to be there for my guys, and I'm not good enough for you anyways". Paraphrasing here but that's basically what he says to her before she gets on that train and they depart, forever, in St Denis. The LOOK OF ABSOLUTE SADNESS in her eyes say's it all. She's literally begging him to stop being such a putz and think of HIMSELF, for once... Which is ultimately the difference between Morgan and Marston. One, continues to be a puts to the end of his days, the other, doesn't. And that is in spite of Morgans better traits. [the guy is still a putz]
Knew about most of these, but I’m shocked I never noticed that picture of copper. I’ve spent dozens of hours screwing around in all the camps over the last few years and never noticed somehow. Not helping Lenny is interesting, never knew that. And I don’t really think Abigail was cheating in the prologue at least, rockstar probably just joking around making John the butt of another one of countless jokes.
Only players that played first rdr know Abrigal slept w whole gang. Was a common theme where John old gang mates would say they all slept w her but John being only one who decided to put a ring on her. 😅 after player 2nd red dead I'm convince jack is Arthur's unwanted child which is why he baby sits him from time to time when Abigal begs him. Wonder y John so suspicious of Arthur taking so much interest in him family is suspicious lol
If Dutch knew about the O’Driscoll’s threat because Kieran told him, then Dutch really messed up, even in ways we didn’t understand, by not taking extra precautions to see that Kieran was protected. Poor Kieran. He didn’t deserve to go out the way he did.
Dutch was already going insane by that point, probably already being slowly poisoned by Micah. At the end of the game he barely cared about the old gang, including his surrogate son Arthur, do you really think he would give a shit about an ex-O'Driscoll?
It's funny how Karen said the reverend needs to clean up his act only for her to descend into drunkenness while Swanson cleans up his act by chapter 6.
Karen really did become a mess before she disappeared, I always expected her to get her stuff together and become a proper lady. But Karen did have a hard life, harder than the game lets on, you can just assume it based on her being a working girl at the time. Even when she sleeps with Sean, she cries but tells him to keep going because she wants someone to see her. Basically, she's been used and abused her entire life, and the mission where Arthur saves her from the hotel room shows that. Even though you don't go on more than one mission with her, it's basically presumed that the women were still going out and doing things while Arthur was gone, to find work and things to contribute, and for Karen that was basically selling herself and thieving. But since she was on the run with everyone else, she wasn't working in a proper brothel, she basically could only do quickies in alleys and stuff and go around advertising herself in less than ideal situations, which likely lead to her having to have a lot of bad interactions with the lowest men there was. And that's why she drank soo much. I bet it got to the point where she was walking around town drunk basically looking for any man with a dollar, but obviously regretting it when she sobered up, so caused her to drink even more. And even though you can pretty much max out the camp pretty early on, the game was designed around the camp being a less than ideal situation, where supplies were short and people were sleeping rough, while on the run from the law, so it wasn't a place where someone was supposed to be content, even though they did make the best of it.
Abigail doesn’t cheat on John. The doctor’s never there, which is a nod to red dead revolver and how they put up “gone fishin’” signs on places they never made an interior for to explain why you couldn’t go in
@Fishooter1you actually can sleep in the bed it's really finicky because the fast travel map is in the way but have you sit down on the bed then you can sleep on it
Er yeah you can. I tried three times and died every time (me being crap at the controls that early on 😅) so I left him. It was so much easier for me 😅 I did want to help him though 😉
No idea if that Abigail thing is just a meme or not but that doctor is never there, whether in 1899 or 1907. I think there's something that hints he died on his fishing trip but that sign is basically just a gameplay excuse as to why there isn't a store you can walk into like the Doctor's office in Valentine for example. Still, that ending was pretty funny, I just don't think it actually says anything about Abigail at that time.
@@RedsDeadBaby LMAO well played then, it made me laugh I won't lie. I just have a very distinct memory of some random encounters as Arthur mentioning the Strawberry doctor's office but being really confused as to why we couldn't enter it so when I saw the sign, I couldn't help but laugh
@@RedsDeadBaby Lol I think anyone who actually believes it is a little daft considering it has been explained, but it is funny, especially knowing that she had to be a prostitute back before Jack was born.
After you find the morphine there’s a camp interaction and somebody mentions something like “what’s really in that bible reverend?” I forgot what chapter and who but saw it on my first play through :)
Yeah I found it during Sean’s welcome home party, explains why the Reverend was fucking an inch from my face and starting to talk and then forgot what he even said and just left
Abigail actually mentioned right after they arrived at Strawberry that she got a job at cleaning the doctors office. So there isn’t nothing fishy there.
The last one is actually a Red Dead Revolver reference. When you complete all the Bounty Hunter Missions you got a cutscene with the sheriff and after get out of the sheriff office you can see “Sheriff Office, Gone fishing”.
I highly doubt Abigail is cheating on John. She’s up to something, but I don’t think it’s that, or we would’ve discovered more about it at some point. If people are having affairs in stories, it’s usually so that some point can later be made when, say, the affair is discovered. Nothing like this ever happens. She might be happy because for the first time in her life she’s doing work that doesn’t involve having sex with men for a price. (I also don’t think she actually wears those clothes when she’s working, I think she just enjoys the walk there, maybe showing off to her friends what a civilized woman she is now. And then changes into something more work appropriate when she arrives. It would not be encouraging to wear bloodstained clothes to and from work. People don’t like Abigail because she’s bossy to John (and, ergo, the player). But I really understand and appreciate Abigail as a character. She’s lived a tough life, and she’s not easy to please because of that. John has to work really hard to make her happy. But it shows through once in a while. Although, she usually tries to hide it. I think she’s just really misunderstood.
I think I can agree with you there. I've never hated Abigail like some fans do. But I have always found her annoying to this day. And she wasn't just bossy to John. She was mean to him and demeaned him constantly as a man and as a person. Obviously John was mean to her too. But I think Abigail demeaned John more than John did her.
In my opinion Abigail is constantly complaining but it’s understandable. I like her as a character. She was happy because she now has a semblance of a normal life with the man she is in love with.
Abigail wanted John and a real family so much, there is no way she was cheating. Maybe she woke up happy because of her new life. Jack always ignores is parents, and is always in his books thats probably why he doesn't remember, even on the wagon ride in, he's not listening to john. Abigale was probably ordering John's shirt which is also why she was happy. To bad that shirt actually turned out to be a really bad thing, it probably would have been better if she was cheating. It's funny the catastrophic series of events cause by that 1 👕 But fan theories are fun, a way to keep the game alive.
In my first playthrough the reverant freaked me out a bit. At the poker table my final winning hand was a flush of diamonds and at one point on horseback the reverant just said "a flush of diamonds". I really thought in that moment that the reverant actually knew or saw my hand despite not being there. But then I found out that he says that line no matter your hand. Would have been pretty good if they actually gave him voice lines for every winning outcome. Maybe not number specific though. Like: "winning bluff, high card, a pair, 2 pairs, 3 of a kind, straight, flush, full house, four of a kind, straight flush, royal flush
4:28 This bit of dialogue is so funny, coming from Karen, because in the end she turns to the bottle too. And he sobers up just long enough to get away.
@RedsDeadBaby..., please, if you’re giving me a gift, please give it to someone else, someone more deserving. My gift is given every time someone validates my opinion by giving it a “thumb’s up.” That means more to me than any material gifts. I have trouble with self-esteem. I don’t like myself as a person very much. When people read my comments and can relate to what I’m saying and let me know it, that’s a great treasure to me. They give me something that I have great difficulty giving to myself.
@@foodafen7406, that’s quite all right. I don’t. I’ve learned the hard way that embarrassment is mostly wasted time and energy. I just want someone to know I was here once, before it’s all over. Death is inevitable for all of us, eventually. Have a good life, while you can. Just try not to do it at others’ expense. That’s one of the few things in this life worth being embarrassed about.
Ahh yes the walking dead telltale series, i haven't played it in 2 months. Lee's death hurt me so much. He didn't deserved to be bitten, my sister felt bad and understands my pain. I guess I have the best sister in the world.
@@Spicybroom41 And he literally does if you "don't" help Lenny up. Their interactions have a completely different vibe then. Arthur isn't seen as a "mentor" figure by Lenny, and he has less respect for Arthur, considering him much like he would Bill Williamson, or WORSE... Micah. [yea, that very obvious bigot]
@@hersheyvillalino746 If they do a 3, I would hope the do it as a prequel to a prequel...since 2 is a prequel to 1, 3 should be a prequel to 2...like the events that lead up to Blackwater...in which case, Arthur would be alive.
@@hersheyvillalino746 I hope they would reiterate on some of the cut content. Re-use that stuff. It would be cool to see a younger Arthur Morgan, one beset with similar issues that Marston has in 2. And we could witness first hand the time when Morgan first comes to feel like he's become the "work horse" of the gang, thanks to Marston. I would imagine that a lot of the characters would come across differently. Dutch would probably be more "on top of" things because, it's a younger Dutch and less has gone wrong, yet. Hosea would also be a younger man, probably somewhere between Dutch and Arthur's age in 2. And it would be interesting to see how the women of the gang evolved into who they were in 2. And maybe we could finally get a FIRST HAND understanding of just why Dutch hates Colm O Driscall so much, I mean, we know the overall picture, but it's not the same as actually PLAYING OUT that whole event. There are so many possibilities about what RDR 3 could be, that it blows my mind.
i will never ever do anything nice for abigail again. shes going to get a lot of lip from arthur and john on my current play through. i'm doing a jaded run this play through i told mary linton to g.f.y and let her pa die.. that cxxx
That whole scene is literally burned into my mind from the first time I ever saw it. A dead Keiran riding into camp... with his head held by his arms... removed from his shoulders. The very fact someone would first decapitate the poor guy and then manipulate his corpse that way, is just appalling.
Wait, when does THAT happen? I guess it's some kind of epilogue easter egg? It would be quite strange if he's got a family [on the down low] during the main events of the game, and that's his "other business". He's depicted as somewhat of a Cad, but in reality, is he really?
@@Requiemslove during the game, when you first get to Saint Denis. You don't see him, but you hear his voice in a house, talking to his wife. I think if you bang on the door, he says something to you as well.
@@l.pietrobon3925 Arthur does mention taking baths with his dog, to various "bath-wench's" though. Weird even presuming nothing "crude" is intended in any way.
It was but not a lost cause to have dlc to do more heists with the gang members. Even in the prologue with John Charles and Uncle. I'm sure Rockstar would do it even a graphics update for current gen consoles if given enough money
Let’s not forget who Abigail is or where did uncle find her…she was a prostitute and she did had sex with most of gang members Jack might not even be Johns son 😂 so she going out cheating on John is like Mia Khalifas husband worrying she might cheat on him 😂
Yea I’ve been planning on including that in a details videos soon, but not of that interaction. There’s one that if you don’t be mean to him you can come back to that area later and see him again
@@RedsDeadBaby yeah so ya know... I greeted him and he just had to do that didnt he... again told of the legendary bluegill and then just went back swimming.
3:45 Wow I've played this game since release and this is the first time I've seen this picture of young Charles with his parents 🧐 His bowl cut though 😭😭 lol 😂
Dunno if you know this or already made a video about it, but you should make a video about how when you get the bounty for doctor bell in Saint Denis, you should post about how you can hear his change of tone, from going to angry to scared
@@RedsDeadBaby i forgot his name but it’s the bounty target you get for professor bell, you can listen how his tone of voice changes when Arthur mentions the electrocution chair
@@lactosetolerance45 I get the 'save the injured' guy encounter long before the electric chair mission. It would be very hard to put off that encounter until that late in the game unless you play like they want and put off your trips to Saint Denis. it would be interesting to see that interaction.
@@lactosetolerance45 Geez, I think I have brain decay. I was fixated on the word "doctor" in your original comment and was thinking there must have been a conversation after you do the electric chair mission. I know exactly what you are talking about though. Arthur kind of tortures the guy with his description of those cows he came across after a lightning storm. McDaniels was the bounty's name. And he was practically crying with fear by the time he got to Saint Denis.
2:13 genuinely explains why you had to save reverend's booty by the train tracks. That man was beyond buzzed up. Not to mention opioids and alcohol is a dangerous and deadly mix.
A lot of games really do not understand how to make choices matter. It always must be either a massive, ending-defining difference or nothing at all. RDR2, among few others, understands player choice. Just a mention callback down the road may be enough, a little script, a nod, an inconsequential expendable NPC living or dying as a result. These little and ultimately irrelevant details and consequences really add up to a holistic, influenced world. If you help five people out of town in a small way that you can see and that you know would change their lives, it still feels like you had changed that town forever. If you kill a mayor of that town, and his carbon copy in different race takes his place and people on the street have three recycled lines of dialogue to constantly hammer it in while most don't even acknowledge it, you know the game is just pretending to be deeper than it is. Yes, I'm looking at you, Bethesda.
I see nothing untoward at the end. Obviously Abigail just went on an innocent fishing trip with the doctor. I heard tell she’s a serious Master Baiter, knows how to wet a worm and can work a pole real good. Now that’s a woman my friends!
I knew Swanson had a drug problem wasnt just drinking back in those times morphine and “coke-cain” was legal which explains the gum that boost deadeye.
Abigail wasn't cheating. She was snitching. Edit: seeing you destroy that cat with a pistol after I've spent countless hours trying to get a perfect one almost made me sick.
I always felt so bad for morphine dependents and addicts back then who IV used.. those syringe gauges give me nightmares lol. I never even liked anything bigger than 31gauge … thank gosh they had elixirs & syrups too lol or opium dens.
💯 it would be nice to be able to buy morphine or whatever over the counter when you wanted though. Should be that way today. If adults wanna use it they should be able too, have tablets just like Tylenol and they would make a killing, not as much theft either because it would be safe(knowing exactly what it is), and cheaper.
@@BrandonGavin_EDCyeah they should of long time ago legalize all drugs .. even cocaine is legal medicinally in USA. Look it up. Only people that have it are pharmaceutical companies. Thats what they use to make lidocaine, novacaine, and benzocaine, etc from. But soon as government finds out you can catch a buzz or get high on something... Lets make it illegal and ruin the lives of every person that does it by putting them in jail even though the only person they were hurting was themselves.
I've never been convinced that Abigail cheats on John. There's no REAL evidence to show that she did. And look at it this way, she's worried about him ALL the time. Always berating him about cleaning up his act, stepping up and being a REAL father to Jack. We see more than enough interactions around the camp alone to know how much she cares. You don't get THAT angry with someone who's seemingly always letting you down and getting into trouble, and then go and "cheat" with some random [not even present] Doctor, by the way, WAY after the camp days when John is FINALLY being more of a proper man and HAS somewhat got his act together. Why would she cheat on him when he's FINALLY putting the effort into his side of their relationship? I just don't buy into it.
Yeah at the end of Chap 1 I found out that Charles left his drunk dad, and that he’s actually from a Native American tribe. That’s why Charles felt out of place.
Well to be fair..some article said that before John married abigail, Abigail and Bill had some casual sexual relationship. That's the reason why John is hesitant whether jack is his son or not. (try to search it) So Abigail cheating to John is not farfetched. 😅😅
There's an interaction you can hear earlier between Abigail and Miss Grimshaw, where Abigail states that she "doesn't do that anymore." I'm guessing she's talking about whoring, so she wanted to be faithful to John.
I dont think Abigail cheat on john since she had jack, but she definitely had a thing with arthur before being with john (arthur notebook says he probably should have marrying her) and i read somewhere that it's uncle who brought her into the gang. Knowing Abigail pasr job and uncle way of having sex with women, you easily can guess how he first met her.
1:00 I encountered this after I had just bought my new horse and they killed the poor bastard. I took one of they’re wagon horses. I think I had that horse for most of that play through
I wondered about the Abigail thing, hopefully someone can correct me here but I read on Reddit that the doctor's office is a front for a prostitution ring. I can't recall if it was the one in valentine or strawberry but I believe one of the two, so it's something I've wondered about especially with all the rumors about her being a working girl before joining the gang and perhaps even during its earlier days. Grimshaw being her madam, etc... So it's interesting to see this mentioned!
In RDR1 Dutch explicitly described Abigail as prostitute who was used by the various gang members: "You know, gentlemen, this man here, he married a whore. Used to ride with us. We all had her, but he married her, and you know that makes him a better man than us. "
@@goose93im pretty sure he is! But even if it was O'Driscoll. The idea still can be true. Because they all ran together back in the day years before the split. So its plausible.
The fact that i did not save a separate save game and just finished a story and when arthur died i missed a lot of shit. A terrible mistake to finish sidemission after the story. Dumb move
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I don't think Abigail was cheating; I think she was heading into town to order the shirt she gets for John.
Also that sign "Gone Fishing" always hangs there, even as Arthur or after the Epilouge. So I don't think that Abigail was actually cheating
The doctor could be out fishing and Abigail could still be cleaning the doctor's office lol he doesn't need to be there to watch her clean 😂 in fact most offices are closed when people are in there cleaning. When have you ever gone to the doctor and seeing the janitor walking around? Furthermore I would add that her attire seems entirely proper for the time. People dressed up all the time even labors. I also tend to agree she was probably ordering the shirt.
or maybe she was in fact cleaning the doctors office while he was on break
with his free time he goes fishing
The shit was a secret apology gift...
You believed that shit when your mom said it too
That Outro was hilariously funny. Take my upvote!
The doctor gone fishing is an Easter egg that pay tribute to the first game before rdr1, red dead revolver I think it’s called. In that game very place said that it was closed for different reasons “Gone Fishing” being one of the excuses.
I wonder if Charles' tribe were either Cherokee, Chickasaw, Seminole or Muskogee all of whom had freemen in their tribe.
You know, I always thought Arthur and Abigail would be sometime. I guess rockstar didn’t want to do that, but I thought it would be a better suit because John Martian is a SOB
A better fit?
Sorry, but Arthur's an IDIOT. Consider him and Mary Linton. That whole sub story shows how MUCH of an idiot he is. A guy who would put gang loyalty, which is EVER being undermined by the events that play out, over taking up a new life with a woman who CLEARLY loves him. It's not like that sub story is over "before" he knows that Dutch is only really in things for himself. Or before he KNOWS the gang is doomed to splinter. He knows both of those things and is still like "Sorry darling, I wish I could, but I got to be there for my guys, and I'm not good enough for you anyways". Paraphrasing here but that's basically what he says to her before she gets on that train and they depart, forever, in St Denis. The LOOK OF ABSOLUTE SADNESS in her eyes say's it all. She's literally begging him to stop being such a putz and think of HIMSELF, for once...
Which is ultimately the difference between Morgan and Marston. One, continues to be a puts to the end of his days, the other, doesn't. And that is in spite of Morgans better traits. [the guy is still a putz]
I know im late, but you can quick draw at people if you arent on the horse
Knew about most of these, but I’m shocked I never noticed that picture of copper. I’ve spent dozens of hours screwing around in all the camps over the last few years and never noticed somehow. Not helping Lenny is interesting, never knew that. And I don’t really think Abigail was cheating in the prologue at least, rockstar probably just joking around making John the butt of another one of countless jokes.
It's closed in 1899 to there's a rumor he died on his fishing trip
Not john collecting eagle feathers like ezio auditore
Bro u should've play all girls are the same by juice wrld at the end it would fit johns situation
Only players that played first rdr know Abrigal slept w whole gang. Was a common theme where John old gang mates would say they all slept w her but John being only one who decided to put a ring on her. 😅 after player 2nd red dead I'm convince jack is Arthur's unwanted child which is why he baby sits him from time to time when Abigal begs him. Wonder y John so suspicious of Arthur taking so much interest in him family is suspicious lol
I have played through several times and have never gotten the Eagle Feather request from Charles .
THE END LMAO
😂
If Dutch knew about the O’Driscoll’s threat because Kieran told him, then Dutch really messed up, even in ways we didn’t understand, by not taking extra precautions to see that Kieran was protected. Poor Kieran. He didn’t deserve to go out the way he did.
He was an O'driscol spy .
@@mrwdpkr5851 Shut up Micah.
@@mrwdpkr5851 No he wasn't, he was loyal to the van der linde gang
@@mrwdpkr5851 if he was a spy that means the O’driscolls wouldn’t have killed em
Dutch was already going insane by that point, probably already being slowly poisoned by Micah. At the end of the game he barely cared about the old gang, including his surrogate son Arthur, do you really think he would give a shit about an ex-O'Driscoll?
It's funny how Karen said the reverend needs to clean up his act only for her to descend into drunkenness while Swanson cleans up his act by chapter 6.
That's life. Sometimes you'll be surprised by who gets it together, and who falls apart.
@@nathanmiller9918Not enough are talking about this. It needs to be called out very strongly.
Karen really did become a mess before she disappeared, I always expected her to get her stuff together and become a proper lady. But Karen did have a hard life, harder than the game lets on, you can just assume it based on her being a working girl at the time. Even when she sleeps with Sean, she cries but tells him to keep going because she wants someone to see her. Basically, she's been used and abused her entire life, and the mission where Arthur saves her from the hotel room shows that.
Even though you don't go on more than one mission with her, it's basically presumed that the women were still going out and doing things while Arthur was gone, to find work and things to contribute, and for Karen that was basically selling herself and thieving. But since she was on the run with everyone else, she wasn't working in a proper brothel, she basically could only do quickies in alleys and stuff and go around advertising herself in less than ideal situations, which likely lead to her having to have a lot of bad interactions with the lowest men there was. And that's why she drank soo much.
I bet it got to the point where she was walking around town drunk basically looking for any man with a dollar, but obviously regretting it when she sobered up, so caused her to drink even more. And even though you can pretty much max out the camp pretty early on, the game was designed around the camp being a less than ideal situation, where supplies were short and people were sleeping rough, while on the run from the law, so it wasn't a place where someone was supposed to be content, even though they did make the best of it.
Wth happened to her at the end? I saw everyone leave but idk about her
@Aganie. She left at dawn, it was mentioned briefly by Dutch. I beleive she went with Pearson, Tilly and Uncle
Abigail doesn’t cheat on John. The doctor’s never there, which is a nod to red dead revolver and how they put up “gone fishin’” signs on places they never made an interior for to explain why you couldn’t go in
isnt in canon that abigail fucked most of the male cast. dutch mentions it in a scene in rdr1
@Fishooter1 John deserves to be cheated on, he screwed Arthur over by never giving his share of the sheep selling. A long boring mission for nothing.
but why she says she goes to work at the doctors place when he is never there?
@Fishooter1you actually can sleep in the bed it's really finicky because the fast travel map is in the way but have you sit down on the bed then you can sleep on it
@Fishooter1you need to press Q then you will see sleep button
Not saving lenny is one piece of dialogue I would never have heard cause, you CANT not save Lenny. LENNY!
Blenny!!!
@@brainyj13 Lemmy!
If you did not save lenneh you are not as Arthur Morgan your just another rat
Er yeah you can. I tried three times and died every time (me being crap at the controls that early on 😅) so I left him. It was so much easier for me 😅 I did want to help him though 😉
It's interesting how EVERYONE got selected among RedsDeadBaby's "shortliststed' winners!
No idea if that Abigail thing is just a meme or not but that doctor is never there, whether in 1899 or 1907. I think there's something that hints he died on his fishing trip but that sign is basically just a gameplay excuse as to why there isn't a store you can walk into like the Doctor's office in Valentine for example. Still, that ending was pretty funny, I just don't think it actually says anything about Abigail at that time.
Well it was an experiment but I just added meme to it for the laughs lol
@@RedsDeadBaby LMAO well played then, it made me laugh I won't lie. I just have a very distinct memory of some random encounters as Arthur mentioning the Strawberry doctor's office but being really confused as to why we couldn't enter it so when I saw the sign, I couldn't help but laugh
@@RedsDeadBaby Lol I think anyone who actually believes it is a little daft considering it has been explained, but it is funny, especially knowing that she had to be a prostitute back before Jack was born.
@@RedsDeadBaby yet you incuded it in the thumbnail for the clickbait
But it was really funny though
The tree one was i think the boy who trows Stones in the water
Oh nice
It is cause the kid in 1899 is talking bout a girl and in the epilogue, we see him hating on a girl named lily mae
After you find the morphine there’s a camp interaction and somebody mentions something like “what’s really in that bible reverend?” I forgot what chapter and who but saw it on my first play through :)
Yeah I found it during Sean’s welcome home party, explains why the Reverend was fucking an inch from my face and starting to talk and then forgot what he even said and just left
Micah teases him about it also, "I hear you're back on the morphine reverend"
7:54 bro why is john so thin 😂
Bros been popping them cocaine gums
Bro the fact that the song says “Can’t make a wife out of a hoe” is wild 💀💀💀
No, it says "you can't make a hoe into a housewife, they dont act right".
If you're gonna quote something, quote it right.
Abigail actually mentioned right after they arrived at Strawberry that she got a job at cleaning the doctors office. So there isn’t nothing fishy there.
No one gonna talk bout the epic outro at 8:45
This game is so detailed it's mind blowing....kudos to the devs for their dedication
ROCKSTAR!!
It’s why we’re not gonna get rdr3 until 2030 or some shit :/
The last one is actually a Red Dead Revolver reference. When you complete all the Bounty Hunter Missions you got a cutscene with the sheriff and after get out of the sheriff office you can see “Sheriff Office, Gone fishing”.
5 years later, still the undisputed best game of all time!!
I highly doubt Abigail is cheating on John. She’s up to something, but I don’t think it’s that, or we would’ve discovered more about it at some point. If people are having affairs in stories, it’s usually so that some point can later be made when, say, the affair is discovered. Nothing like this ever happens. She might be happy because for the first time in her life she’s doing work that doesn’t involve having sex with men for a price. (I also don’t think she actually wears those clothes when she’s working, I think she just enjoys the walk there, maybe showing off to her friends what a civilized woman she is now. And then changes into something more work appropriate when she arrives. It would not be encouraging to wear bloodstained clothes to and from work. People don’t like Abigail because she’s bossy to John (and, ergo, the player). But I really understand and appreciate Abigail as a character. She’s lived a tough life, and she’s not easy to please because of that. John has to work really hard to make her happy. But it shows through once in a while. Although, she usually tries to hide it. I think she’s just really misunderstood.
I think I can agree with you there. I've never hated Abigail like some fans do. But I have always found her annoying to this day. And she wasn't just bossy to John. She was mean to him and demeaned him constantly as a man and as a person. Obviously John was mean to her too. But I think Abigail demeaned John more than John did her.
You don’t know much about women do you
@@GhostofCTC, maybe not, but it’s not for a lack of trying.
In my opinion Abigail is constantly complaining but it’s understandable. I like her as a character. She was happy because she now has a semblance of a normal life with the man she is in love with.
@@GhostofCTC ease there 4chan.
John: Is left with no choice and forced to take out his guns to fight off the men burning down Mr. Getty's Ranch.
*Abigale: 😒......Leaves John.*
I love the last one. Definite statement with circumstancial proof at most. Jack not remembering is a weak point given how absent minded he seems to be
Abigail wanted John and a real family so much, there is no way she was cheating. Maybe she woke up happy because of her new life. Jack always ignores is parents, and is always in his books thats probably why he doesn't remember, even on the wagon ride in, he's not listening to john. Abigale was probably ordering John's shirt which is also why she was happy. To bad that shirt actually turned out to be a really bad thing, it probably would have been better if she was cheating. It's funny the catastrophic series of events cause by that 1 👕
But fan theories are fun, a way to keep the game alive.
In my first playthrough the reverant freaked me out a bit. At the poker table my final winning hand was a flush of diamonds and at one point on horseback the reverant just said "a flush of diamonds". I really thought in that moment that the reverant actually knew or saw my hand despite not being there. But then I found out that he says that line no matter your hand. Would have been pretty good if they actually gave him voice lines for every winning outcome. Maybe not number specific though. Like: "winning bluff, high card, a pair, 2 pairs, 3 of a kind, straight, flush, full house, four of a kind, straight flush, royal flush
4:28 This bit of dialogue is so funny, coming from Karen, because in the end she turns to the bottle too. And he sobers up just long enough to get away.
@RedsDeadBaby..., please, if you’re giving me a gift, please give it to someone else, someone more deserving. My gift is given every time someone validates my opinion by giving it a “thumb’s up.” That means more to me than any material gifts. I have trouble with self-esteem. I don’t like myself as a person very much. When people read my comments and can relate to what I’m saying and let me know it, that’s a great treasure to me. They give me something that I have great difficulty giving to myself.
@@brianbommarito3376 💀
@Brian Bommarito I feel sorry and embarrassment for you.
@@foodafen7406, that’s quite all right. I don’t. I’ve learned the hard way that embarrassment is mostly wasted time and energy. I just want someone to know I was here once, before it’s all over. Death is inevitable for all of us, eventually. Have a good life, while you can. Just try not to do it at others’ expense. That’s one of the few things in this life worth being embarrassed about.
@Brian Bommarito I'm sorry I was harsh on you. No harm brother!
Of course bill had to say something zesty 💅🏾
Lmao
The "carrying me home" line? Man, it needs an antagonize line from Arthur. "I'm strong, Bill, but I ain't _that_ strong."
Arthur decided not to help Lenny
Prompt message: "Lenny will remember that" 😂
Ahh yes the walking dead telltale series, i haven't played it in 2 months. Lee's death hurt me so much. He didn't deserved to be bitten, my sister felt bad and understands my pain. I guess I have the best sister in the world.
@@Spicybroom41 And he literally does if you "don't" help Lenny up. Their interactions have a completely different vibe then. Arthur isn't seen as a "mentor" figure by Lenny, and he has less respect for Arthur, considering him much like he would Bill Williamson, or WORSE... Micah. [yea, that very obvious bigot]
Now imagine if RDR3 have thousand of details like this.
I really wish they will bring Arthur back! Cos John was already in both RDR 1 & 2, so why not bring Arthur for 2 & 3. Just sucks that he has to die
@@hersheyvillalino746 If they do a 3, I would hope the do it as a prequel to a prequel...since 2 is a prequel to 1, 3 should be a prequel to 2...like the events that lead up to Blackwater...in which case, Arthur would be alive.
@@Skoalcwby77 I know right! This is what I’m hoping for. The young van der linde gang! It’d be pretty cool
@@Skoalcwby77Fr it would be sooo bittersweet at the same time tho
@@hersheyvillalino746 I hope they would reiterate on some of the cut content. Re-use that stuff. It would be cool to see a younger Arthur Morgan, one beset with similar issues that Marston has in 2. And we could witness first hand the time when Morgan first comes to feel like he's become the "work horse" of the gang, thanks to Marston. I would imagine that a lot of the characters would come across differently. Dutch would probably be more "on top of" things because, it's a younger Dutch and less has gone wrong, yet. Hosea would also be a younger man, probably somewhere between Dutch and Arthur's age in 2. And it would be interesting to see how the women of the gang evolved into who they were in 2.
And maybe we could finally get a FIRST HAND understanding of just why Dutch hates Colm O Driscall so much, I mean, we know the overall picture, but it's not the same as actually PLAYING OUT that whole event.
There are so many possibilities about what RDR 3 could be, that it blows my mind.
There is an interaction that Arthur can have with Abigail in Chapter 2: she will put her arm around him. Not sure if its a rare occurrence
Yeah, when you’re both sitting on the log. I don’t know if she’s stretching legitimately or doing the “fake stretch reach your arm around them” move
"Don't remember you carrying me back home, Morgan" lmao I'm sure the Reverend is lighter Bill
The fact that Bill is probably gay makes this sentence 100x sus
i will never ever do anything nice for abigail again. shes going to get a lot of lip from arthur and john on my current play through. i'm doing a jaded run this play through i told mary linton to g.f.y and let her pa die.. that cxxx
I genuinely felt bad for Kieran. Poor guy was being honest and found respect in the gang. But like everyone who does .. he wound up paying for it. 😢
That whole scene is literally burned into my mind from the first time I ever saw it. A dead Keiran riding into camp... with his head held by his arms... removed from his shoulders.
The very fact someone would first decapitate the poor guy and then manipulate his corpse that way, is just appalling.
@Requiemslove i think his eyes were removed before he got killed
The weird fact about Copper takings baths with Arthur isn't really that weird. Atleast to me, growin' up we'd take baths/showers with our dog.
especially during that time. like come on let a man bathe with his doggo
8:07 Those pesky cougars, in my experience they are the bane of John's existence in the Epilogue.
That was Abigail's true form. She figured out what John was up to and got angry.
THERE ARENT COUAGRS IN MISSIONS!
Who else found Trelawney in Saint Denis with a wife and kids? You don’t see him, but you hear him in a house.
Wait, when does THAT happen?
I guess it's some kind of epilogue easter egg? It would be quite strange if he's got a family [on the down low] during the main events of the game, and that's his "other business".
He's depicted as somewhat of a Cad, but in reality, is he really?
@@Requiemslove during the game, when you first get to Saint Denis. You don't see him, but you hear his voice in a house, talking to his wife. I think if you bang on the door, he says something to you as well.
@@rogersjgregory Jeese... that's fecking wild...
to everyone wondering what abigail was doing at the end, she was probably placing the order for John's shirt
or actually cleaning the office.
but that ending killed me
Lmao
Abigail wasnt cheating. She was buying the outfit for John as a surprise
The gone fishing sign is literally always there. And abigail dressed pretty much exactly like your typical working woman would. Stretch.
Arthur really did love copper
A little too much
@@RedsDeadBaby honestly it not that weird
@@Nomad958 Yeah he probably meant like baths in the river or the lake
@@l.pietrobon3925 Arthur does mention taking baths with his dog, to various "bath-wench's" though. Weird even presuming nothing "crude" is intended in any way.
While John was working his ass up at the Ranch, Abigail went for fishing with doctor 🤣
It was but not a lost cause to have dlc to do more heists with the gang members. Even in the prologue with John Charles and Uncle. I'm sure Rockstar would do it even a graphics update for current gen consoles if given enough money
Let’s not forget who Abigail is or where did uncle find her…she was a prostitute and she did had sex with most of gang members Jack might not even be Johns son 😂 so she going out cheating on John is like Mia Khalifas husband worrying she might cheat on him 😂
All known about 1 day after initial release. You're getting desperate for content.
4:39 “is he asleep” Young Jack is adorable
The Gone Fishing thing is a reference to Red Dead Revolver when R* didn't make any interiors for their buildings.
8:00 that shart noise was hilarious
8:01
"I'm sorry , can you say that again ? i couldn't hear you over the sound of me shitting myself" !
LMFAO
11 Facts and Details you 100% know, should be the title. 2 mins i cant get back.
7:53 John is so skinny
I dunno if you know this one but you remember the naked swimming guy when you go fishing with Kieran in chapter 3??
Yea I’ve been planning on including that in a details videos soon, but not of that interaction. There’s one that if you don’t be mean to him you can come back to that area later and see him again
@@RedsDeadBaby yeah so ya know... I greeted him and he just had to do that didnt he... again told of the legendary bluegill and then just went back swimming.
Abigail is not cheating With the doctor the doctor is in love with the horse he is in red dead redemption one and he marries a horse
3:45 Wow I've played this game since release and this is the first time I've seen this picture of young Charles with his parents 🧐 His bowl cut though 😭😭 lol 😂
Jack's hair is look like Arthur's hair.....
John cheated on Abigail when he went cougar hunting instead of going to work.
Dunno if you know this or already made a video about it, but you should make a video about how when you get the bounty for doctor bell in Saint Denis, you should post about how you can hear his change of tone, from going to angry to scared
Hm when you get the bounty? How do you get wanted ? I haven’t played that mission for a long time
@@RedsDeadBaby i forgot his name but it’s the bounty target you get for professor bell, you can listen how his tone of voice changes when Arthur mentions the electrocution chair
@@lactosetolerance45 I get the 'save the injured' guy encounter long before the electric chair mission. It would be very hard to put off that encounter until that late in the game unless you play like they want and put off your trips to Saint Denis. it would be interesting to see that interaction.
@@RBCharger i never mentioned that encounter, im talking about the side mission, not trying to sound rude just saying how i never mentioned that guy
@@lactosetolerance45 Geez, I think I have brain decay. I was fixated on the word "doctor" in your original comment and was thinking there must have been a conversation after you do the electric chair mission.
I know exactly what you are talking about though. Arthur kind of tortures the guy with his description of those cows he came across after a lightning storm. McDaniels was the bounty's name. And he was practically crying with fear by the time he got to Saint Denis.
2:13 genuinely explains why you had to save reverend's booty by the train tracks. That man was beyond buzzed up. Not to mention opioids and alcohol is a dangerous and deadly mix.
Arthurt : "keep you're eyes op... Ahhhh!!!" as he collide with the stagecoach was hilarious xD
8:00 Gotta admit, that happened to all of us when we tried leaving Pronghorn Ranch
A lot of games really do not understand how to make choices matter. It always must be either a massive, ending-defining difference or nothing at all.
RDR2, among few others, understands player choice. Just a mention callback down the road may be enough, a little script, a nod, an inconsequential expendable NPC living or dying as a result. These little and ultimately irrelevant details and consequences really add up to a holistic, influenced world.
If you help five people out of town in a small way that you can see and that you know would change their lives, it still feels like you had changed that town forever. If you kill a mayor of that town, and his carbon copy in different race takes his place and people on the street have three recycled lines of dialogue to constantly hammer it in while most don't even acknowledge it, you know the game is just pretending to be deeper than it is. Yes, I'm looking at you, Bethesda.
Abigail did not cheat on John. She says when you’re escorting the wagon that she got that job
My John looks more like Aurther than your john lol
I see nothing untoward at the end. Obviously Abigail just went on an innocent fishing trip with the doctor. I heard tell she’s a serious Master Baiter, knows how to wet a worm and can work a pole real good. Now that’s a woman my friends!
I knew Swanson had a drug problem wasnt just drinking back in those times morphine and “coke-cain” was legal which explains the gum that boost deadeye.
Abigail wasn't cheating. She was snitching.
Edit: seeing you destroy that cat with a pistol after I've spent countless hours trying to get a perfect one almost made me sick.
*Jack:*
Is he asleep…?
*Arthur:*
That ending music was cringe and that’s not at all what happened. Cringe music thumbnail clickbait
@ᴛᴇxᴛ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ@RedsDeadBaby yayyyy
The opening had me dying 😂 advising stranger to keep his eyes open and proceeds to crash into the wagon
last one: Top G rdr2 speed run
When the door says gone fishing and the dramatic sound effect plays, i heard a car outside that banged dun dun dun dun😂
I always felt so bad for morphine dependents and addicts back then who IV used.. those syringe gauges give me nightmares lol. I never even liked anything bigger than 31gauge … thank gosh they had elixirs & syrups too lol or opium dens.
💯 it would be nice to be able to buy morphine or whatever over the counter when you wanted though. Should be that way today. If adults wanna use it they should be able too, have tablets just like Tylenol and they would make a killing, not as much theft either because it would be safe(knowing exactly what it is), and cheaper.
@@BrandonGavin_EDCyeah they should of long time ago legalize all drugs .. even cocaine is legal medicinally in USA. Look it up. Only people that have it are pharmaceutical companies. Thats what they use to make lidocaine, novacaine, and benzocaine, etc from. But soon as government finds out you can catch a buzz or get high on something... Lets make it illegal and ruin the lives of every person that does it by putting them in jail even though the only person they were hurting was themselves.
5:14 you gained the honor system early
I had a dog named copper who recently passed away and he looks just like this dog. He was a vizsla. Now I relate to this game even more.
I've never been convinced that Abigail cheats on John. There's no REAL evidence to show that she did. And look at it this way, she's worried about him ALL the time. Always berating him about cleaning up his act, stepping up and being a REAL father to Jack. We see more than enough interactions around the camp alone to know how much she cares. You don't get THAT angry with someone who's seemingly always letting you down and getting into trouble, and then go and "cheat" with some random [not even present] Doctor, by the way, WAY after the camp days when John is FINALLY being more of a proper man and HAS somewhat got his act together.
Why would she cheat on him when he's FINALLY putting the effort into his side of their relationship? I just don't buy into it.
Yeah at the end of Chap 1 I found out that Charles left his drunk dad, and that he’s actually from a Native American tribe. That’s why Charles felt out of place.
Best game ever! I hope they remake Red Dead 1 🤠
Well to be fair..some article said that before John married abigail, Abigail and Bill had some casual sexual relationship. That's the reason why John is hesitant whether jack is his son or not. (try to search it)
So Abigail cheating to John is not farfetched. 😅😅
Welp what can you say...jack is a group assignment but maybe javier has much stronger DNA and abigail is always the rat🤓
Aw man, I’m on my first play through and just finished the part where Seam gets killed. It’s so surreal to hear him again. Damn. 😢
There's an interaction you can hear earlier between Abigail and Miss Grimshaw, where Abigail states that she "doesn't do that anymore." I'm guessing she's talking about whoring, so she wanted to be faithful to John.
Sorry for the dislike.
But if you gonna post "facts" without facts then you have no use for my likes.
I dont think Abigail cheat on john since she had jack, but she definitely had a thing with arthur before being with john (arthur notebook says he probably should have marrying her) and i read somewhere that it's uncle who brought her into the gang. Knowing Abigail pasr job and uncle way of having sex with women, you easily can guess how he first met her.
in RDR1 Dutch actually said that Abigail slept with all mens of Dutch group. I think this is why John leaves them for year
1:00 I encountered this after I had just bought my new horse and they killed the poor bastard. I took one of they’re wagon horses. I think I had that horse for most of that play through
I feel like Abigail would sleep with Arthur, but she knows Arthur's loyalty to John and he would tell john
Abigail had to work somehow....and we all know what job she had at the gang...
Don't know why but I've always had a feeling Abigail liked Arthur more than john
So question is the black drunk man with the son who we get money from n kill is possibly Charles father n brother 🧐
I wondered about the Abigail thing, hopefully someone can correct me here but I read on Reddit that the doctor's office is a front for a prostitution ring. I can't recall if it was the one in valentine or strawberry but I believe one of the two, so it's something I've wondered about especially with all the rumors about her being a working girl before joining the gang and perhaps even during its earlier days. Grimshaw being her madam, etc... So it's interesting to see this mentioned!
Are you thinking of the o'driscoll operation in the back of the valentine doctors office?
In RDR1 Dutch explicitly described Abigail as prostitute who was used by the various gang members:
"You know, gentlemen, this man here, he married a whore. Used to ride with us. We all had her, but he married her, and you know that makes him a better man than us. "
@@goose93im pretty sure he is! But even if it was O'Driscoll. The idea still can be true. Because they all ran together back in the day years before the split. So its plausible.
She doesn't need to work outside their camp 😏
she shows some regret about her past work, and it's implicitly known that she didn't like it, she has no reason to look for a work like that.
The fact that i did not save a separate save game and just finished a story and when arthur died i missed a lot of shit. A terrible mistake to finish sidemission after the story. Dumb move
I don’t think Abigail was cheating on John but she was already the gangs whore so you never know
I ran into the O'Driscolls outside the camp so I don't know where you get your information from champ.