How stupid does a cop have to be before they can't tell the difference between a radio message telling them that someone is "drawing" and not "droning" outside a Police station?
I could tell this platform so many true stories about bad police and good police back in time but the new police are wrong with the common law nowadays
That's the secret, ----- know the law the cop is mangling, and pushback and stand your ground with correct knowledge ,it confuses them when it happens.
When police officers have made a pre-judgement on the actions of auditors/drone pilots, it's like the old saying; "I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with facts." Cops always confirm the old saying: Light travels faster than sound. That is why so many appear intelligent until you hear them speak. No matter the country, corrupt police are all the same. They bark unlawful orders at members of the public conducting legal and lawful activities with the belief that those orders have merit. They are only put in place when those being bullied demonstrate a greater knowledge of the laws than the police.
That’s exactly how that drone officer acted in a previous video. He jumped out of his car and claimed DJE had no visual line of sight, then asked where the drone was, because he himself didn’t know. 🤦♂️ Logic is not their strong point.
I'd even go so far to say that not only is logic not their strong point, neither is basic intelligence. They are, to not put too fine a point on it, thick.
@@n700rat VLOS is the name of this requirement but most people don’t understand what the CAA means by that, including this drone officer. It’s all about knowing where the drone is and which way it’s pointing. You can do this without staring at the sky 100% of the time, if you turn your back to talk to someone the drone is not going to dart off across the sky. It’s a moot point anyway. He’d just taken off, the drone was overhead ascending between the trees. Not the best place to take off, but if you’re doing a quick up and down flight it’s not a problem.
What a perfect example of arrogance and ignorance, utter pignorance. Hardly surprising the disconnect, distrust the people have for police in general, due to plonkers like that.
Your conclusion as to the coppers attitude was spot on, he was aggressive, tried to be smart and controlling and made himself look stupid, a typical copper.
It's disappointing that Police still interact with auditors in this manner, knowing they are being recorded and the footage will be put up on TH-cam! Worryingly, it's concerning how they interact with people that don't know the law and 'aggressively' attempt to infringe on their rights, without any footage to evidence their interaction
The pig would not acknowledge that he had failed his policy. The point I made to the auditor/photographer was that he needed to keep the p ig on the hook until such time as he acknowledged his transgression. Thanks.@@topcat1358
They never do this, they just let the cops avoid answering and start talking about something else. I wish they’d just say we’re not going to progress this conversation until you answer the question.
A lot of auditors/ public fall for the trick of asking a cop a question, so the cop counter asks a question, to distract from answering the question posed by the auditor /public, and the auditor/public answers that question, succeeding the deflection. AB is a master at haranguing the cop until they answer the question.
He came across so aggressive. My advice is when they come across like this your better not saying anything or walking away you just give them reasons to investigate you by asking there “friendly” questions. They aren’t being friendly they are great at lying it’s there job 🙃🤷♂️
Auditors, God bless them, do not complete Auditor Academy. So they as a whole bring personally honed skills. Where cops stick to their training, rigidly, auditors are loose and maverick in their approach. Maybe soon we will see an A.I. type Cyrano De Bergerac earpiece for responding to these numpties.
Just simply say “ if you don’t know what I’m doing does that give you reasonable suspicion to suspect that I’m doing anything in particular “? And then walk away, simple
They make a perfect job of making themselves look bad. It’s almost comical there lack of knowledge regarding the law. The barrels that are being scraped to produce incompetent officers like this are numerous…… absolutely zero social skills 😡
17:00 Cop gets stroppy when spoken to in the same abrupt manner that he speaks to others. He fails to understand that he has to act within laws, not by presumed authority. ‘..having a conversation..’, bullshit! The cop knows about videographers but still acts like he has control over people.
That copper at first demanded I.d and details. He is definitely a tyrant who will abuse your rights. You did try a bit hard to get content and they sussed that too . Good video
It’s a good question. The answer is their range of interactions isn’t like a random person’s. They get called to high pressure situations with unpredictable people all the time. Over time those dramas change their perception of risk.
Those cops are idiots, he came up all gung ho, asking for license and NOT knowing anything about drone law, the state of police these days, what an asshole
I live in Oxford and most of the po po are o.k but like every were thetes gonna be tossa's, any way bro thx for the interesting video cheers 🥂!🤝💚🙏✝️ Also its good for us to see the reaction of the po po and the way they behave, Again ty & God bless 🙏
Another pissed off tyrant, I hope he reads these comments. Just because he's in a clown suit he thinks he can bully you into your details. Has he not had an encounter with an auditor or watched TH-cam? Quality mate!
It's pretty annoying watching this entitled cop is behaving, he really shouldn't have a badge as I'm sure he's jammed up people for absolutely nothing.
He’s totally correct the drone is a means of acquiring interactions with the police and as we’ve seen on far too many occasions is how the attitude of the police towards the public remains one of authoritarianism instead of the public servants they are meant to be and this is why the public needs to bring them to account by any means possible to keep them in check!
These police officers are really stupid, making a fool of themselves in front of other colleagues, friends and families who see this video. Embarrassed to be them.
In America, part of the determination for a detention is whether the person feels like they have the ability to freely leave. If the police says "STAY HERE!" and you don't feel like you can walk away then that could turn into an investigative detention.
The laws of England and Wales - not necessarily the whole UK - grant a police officer the right to stop anyone for questioning. That stop is what in US is called detention and leaving is not an option. Naturally, members of the public can refuse to answer questions, but imho that is unwise if the encounter is friendly.
@@patricklockerby4308 Only if the officer has reasonable grounds to suspect a crime is or is about to be committed . if the officer can not articulate a crime then you can't lawfully be detained . so if you are not guilty of a crime them you are not engaged in a friendly encounter , you are being treated as a suspect . you could unwittingly incriminate yourself due to information you are not privy to, that the officer uses to frame the questions to frame you for a crime you never commited .
Brilliant video. Loved the views. Great that you stood up to that idiot police officer, clearly over thinking things and clearly trying to bully you. 👏👏👏 Well done 👍
He said he's got things to do? How much time did he waste with all the crap. He didn't even know the difference between his responsibility as a data handler and that of a private person taking photos or recording.
Cops all around the world think that it’s always all about them. If someone walks away from the area that they’re in “they walked away because they’re up to something” 😂 I have the freedom to change my mind and go in a different direction.
Your style of interaction (I won't say auditing) is commendable. You're knowledeable and polite and the police become discombobulated by your exemplary approach while trying to abuse your rights. Best on TH-cam, look out AB.
The constable portrayed HIMSELF in a bad light - didn't introduce himself, didn't advise he was recording, tried to make things up as he went along....pretty poor performance.
Down in the south I often notice how cool people’s personalities can be from TH-cam videos. I’m from northern England so I’m not experienced with the south but, these cops had chilly personalities, and it just reinforces my stereotype.
27:00 Police cannot legally detain anyone outside of arrest except in three specific circumstances. Breach of the peace, stop and search and when a property is being search. That's from a barrister (Iain Gould) so that's the law. They can ask people to wait or stay and sheeple will do so. But if someone wants to walk away the police cannot grab that person. The police would have to make an arrest to lawfully detain someone who wanted to walk away. But that's paper work and admin even if the person is de-arrested within minutes. And constables hate paperwork. Mainly because their understanding of spelling and grammar is atrocious.
How on Earth is that guy an officer?? No, really. What is going on with these over entitled officers thinking that they rule over the people? I'm all for the Police. 100% support them. But when officers act like this, it makes me sick! Well handled. Good video
27,07 copper admitted you weren't suspected of a crime. So that was definitely not a detainment. Well done for catching that "we'll let you go on your way", he couldn't stop you legally anyway.
I have the operator ID as a QR code on my drone. I recommend that if you have many interactions with cops, because some of them are too stupid to understand how to retrieve it. I also think I'm going to put blue or red tape on it to make it easier to have VLOS. Then cops can't use that as an excuse either. I don't recommend going to the police station announcing that you're going to fly a drone. Also I wouldn't recommend admitting to flying it or even telling that you have a drone. This could have gone a lot worse, but it makes good content. He mentioned grading cops. I'll give him a C- 😅
Walks up and passive aggressively talks shit about something he knows nothing about. goes away, finds out he knew even less than he thought he did and that he's made himself look like a weapon, comes back and passive aggressively has a final wee nibble. Great police work.
Don't feed them the word 'suspicious' better to say "I have done nothing illegal" He could easily have turned on you and said I am suspicious of you commiting a crime.
Not sure people can put two and two together and just read the initials to see what you mean. anyway now I have pointed it out to people reading this. C. U. N.ext T.ime hope they understand now.
@@darrylrichardson7940 It was meant as a rather 'Subtle Comment.' People often put Two and Two together and make Five - Thinking that I am praising someone! However, I am glad that you found the correct interpretation! :)
my wife worked there 25 years ago, she came back to Nwcastle 2 years later, met me in a pub and we got married in 2003, 20 yrs together now, love your videos
It is disappointing to see ignorant and aggressive cops like this one attempting to harass public photography, what tools of growing 'Fascism' by police agencies...
Egotistical cop who didn’t know a thing but was prepared to try and flex his muscle if you didn’t know the law. The usual not telling you he was filming till asked. He was trying to be clever but instead looked a bit of a fool.
It’s so annoying when people stand up for their rights. It would be far easier if we just had a police state.
I hope you are joking!
@@chrisbevis7725 I am, but it’s no joke to them.
How stupid does a cop have to be before they can't tell the difference between a radio message telling them that someone is "drawing" and not "droning" outside a Police station?
I could tell this platform so many true stories about bad police and good police back in time but the new police are wrong with the common law nowadays
We already have
That cop was a disgrace, he had an agenda and triggered himself. great video.
How clueless is this copper and we're paying for this lot
Unfortunately, the cameraman doesn't make the cops look bad, they do it themselves. Courtesy and professionalism costs nothing
What an attitude from that cop . Dreadful.
He has been entitled all of his life ... one day Life will say something different.
totally unlike the camera man then eh??? the ghoul who stalked the family of Nicola Bulley
@@yonner1000yes what do you mean? Please elaborate?
He's probably alluding to a journalist,well ---- being a journalist.......😮
Their attitude absolutely stinks !! , great video sir 👍
The standard of police today..disgraceful...
"Disgraceful" is a compliment to them. :/
It’s generations old in all police.
Never have the Police been worse. I remember what Policing used to be.....How have the Mighty Fallen !!!
He doesn't know the law then gets pissed off when you question him on it, tyrant !!
That's the secret, ----- know the law the cop is mangling, and pushback and stand your ground with correct knowledge ,it confuses them when it happens.
Absolutely spot on response to an attempted intimidating approach by a playground bully girl.
When police officers have made a pre-judgement on the actions of auditors/drone pilots, it's like the old saying; "I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with facts." Cops always confirm the old saying: Light travels faster than sound. That is why so many appear intelligent until you hear them speak. No matter the country, corrupt police are all the same. They bark unlawful orders at members of the public conducting legal and lawful activities with the belief that those orders have merit. They are only put in place when those being bullied demonstrate a greater knowledge of the laws than the police.
That’s exactly how that drone officer acted in a previous video. He jumped out of his car and claimed DJE had no visual line of sight, then asked where the drone was, because he himself didn’t know. 🤦♂️
Logic is not their strong point.
I'd even go so far to say that not only is logic not their strong point, neither is basic intelligence. They are, to not put too fine a point on it, thick.
@@n700rat VLOS is the name of this requirement but most people don’t understand what the CAA means by that, including this drone officer.
It’s all about knowing where the drone is and which way it’s pointing. You can do this without staring at the sky 100% of the time, if you turn your back to talk to someone the drone is not going to dart off across the sky.
It’s a moot point anyway. He’d just taken off, the drone was overhead ascending between the trees. Not the best place to take off, but if you’re doing a quick up and down flight it’s not a problem.
@@HumanityWillPrevail Dunning and Kruger plotted a graph for people like this. They belong on the left.
@@DMC888 Investigation not needed as member of the public we are guilty till proven innocent
What a perfect example of arrogance and ignorance, utter pignorance.
Hardly surprising the disconnect, distrust the people have for police in general, due to plonkers like that.
Your conclusion as to the coppers attitude was spot on, he was aggressive, tried to be smart and controlling and made himself look stupid, a typical copper.
It's disappointing that Police still interact with auditors in this manner, knowing they are being recorded and the footage will be put up on TH-cam! Worryingly, it's concerning how they interact with people that don't know the law and 'aggressively' attempt to infringe on their rights, without any footage to evidence their interaction
Oxford the WOKE city in England
Great stuff once again
Love the content
👍
@@coldbreeze6344 Every major city in the UK is woke, which is why they annoyingly all vote Labour.
It's concerning your concerned
@@hold_onto_th4t It's more concerning that YOU are concerned about my concern!
Once you are making a point, about the camera and his policy, do not let it rest until he acknowledges it.
Marius - TBF - He did FORCE the cop to acknowledge other things the cop said to him.
The pig would not acknowledge that he had failed his policy. The point I made to the auditor/photographer was that he needed to keep the p ig on the hook until such time as he acknowledged his transgression. Thanks.@@topcat1358
They never do this, they just let the cops avoid answering and start talking about something else. I wish they’d just say we’re not going to progress this conversation until you answer the question.
A lot of auditors/ public fall for the trick of asking a cop a question, so the cop counter asks a question, to distract from answering the question posed by the auditor /public, and the auditor/public answers that question, succeeding the deflection.
AB is a master at haranguing the cop until they answer the question.
He came across so aggressive. My advice is when they come across like this your better not saying anything or walking away you just give them reasons to investigate you by asking there “friendly” questions. They aren’t being friendly they are great at lying it’s there job 🙃🤷♂️
Auditors, God bless them, do not complete Auditor Academy. So they as a whole bring personally honed skills. Where cops stick to their training, rigidly, auditors are loose and maverick in their approach. Maybe soon we will see an A.I. type Cyrano De Bergerac earpiece for responding to these numpties.
I don't answer questions , simple
@@AD-53 Does not make for good content . answer every question with a question and keep the camera rolling .
Just simply say “ if you don’t know what I’m doing does that give you reasonable suspicion to suspect that I’m doing anything in particular “? And then walk away, simple
That constable needs to be sacked ASAP.
He will probably be praised they are corrupt
Agreed
Today's police. Pathetic. Grow up.
Well said
This was a great follow up to the training school videos. I love the way you stand your ground and level with them. Good stuff DJE.
Sad when some officers dont know the law
''some'' I think you mean the vast majority!
You forgot the word 'Most' as in most officers don't know the law
I think they know the law but they choose to disregard it.
There's waaaay too much law for them to know. Need to start with a law degree for a good understanding of it
you didn't narrow it down, at all...
They make a perfect job of making themselves look bad. It’s almost comical there lack of knowledge regarding the law. The barrels that are being scraped to produce incompetent officers like this are numerous…… absolutely zero social skills 😡
There's an inverse law here: the bigger a jerk the cop is, the louder and stronger he will claim how friendly and respectful he's been.
17:00 Cop gets stroppy when spoken to in the same abrupt manner that he speaks to others.
He fails to understand that he has to act within laws, not by presumed authority.
‘..having a conversation..’, bullshit!
The cop knows about videographers but still acts like he has control over people.
This poilce officer needs to be sacked by the chief constable we are paying for this dope in uniform
Where do you think they get their instructions from
The constable was on the verge of tears that whole time
How do you portray them in a bad light ? You just portray them ....they shine their own light
Then I think they need to upgrade their penny candles...!
Nicely expressed!
The guy was arrogant and judgemental right from the outset!!
He definitely was! He just couldn't help himself! And thankyou!!
The standard of police today..disgraceful...its not good
That copper at first demanded I.d and details. He is definitely a tyrant who will abuse your rights. You did try a bit hard to get content and they sussed that too . Good video
Well done stood up for your rights,I loved that
Copper didn’t like law abiding citizen truly shocking
Question?
What are the police So paranoid? Just how illegally are they acting to be So frightened?
Because they are up to no good, not working and still getting paid...
It’s a good question. The answer is their range of interactions isn’t like a random person’s. They get called to high pressure situations with unpredictable people all the time. Over time those dramas change their perception of risk.
So you TELL them you are flying a drone , and they approach you for graffitti . Their intellegence is crap (in both sences )
He did graffiti the wall it said police station so that they could find their way to work
"I'm trying to have a normal conversation" (while interrogating you)
This cop was so entitled and bulshy he will probably go very far unfortunately
Your excellent photography has "really emphasised" how attractive Oxford is!!😊
I love how he weaponised your common courtesy at the end when you were simply pre-warning them you were doing your legal action...
"Huffy and Puffy!" perfect choice of words there! 😂 👌
You need to remind the filth.
ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU!
They are not ''just having a chat''
Beautiful walk of shame. An absolute disgrace to what was once a police service.
Those cops are idiots, he came up all gung ho, asking for license and NOT knowing anything about drone law, the state of police these days, what an asshole
I live in Oxford and most of the po po are o.k but like every were thetes gonna be tossa's, any way bro thx for the interesting video cheers 🥂!🤝💚🙏✝️
Also its good for us to see the reaction of the po po and the way they behave,
Again ty & God bless 🙏
Great reaction to the cops .. love how you made him be nice to you 👍
“ I’d like you to remain here, then I will let you go “ !! The power trip is shameful
Another pissed off tyrant, I hope he reads these comments. Just because he's in a clown suit he thinks he can bully you into your details. Has he not had an encounter with an auditor or watched TH-cam? Quality mate!
It's pretty annoying watching this entitled cop is behaving, he really shouldn't have a badge as I'm sure he's jammed up people for absolutely nothing.
Passive aggressive comes to mind. Good job bro
He’s totally correct the drone is a means of acquiring interactions with the police and as we’ve seen on far too many occasions is how the attitude of the police towards the public remains one of authoritarianism instead of the public servants they are meant to be and this is why the public needs to bring them to account by any means possible to keep them in check!
These police officers are really stupid, making a fool of themselves in front of other colleagues, friends and families who see this video. Embarrassed to be them.
He was really pissed off that you didn’t give your details you could hear his teeth grinding.
it was not his teeth grinding it was his brain working to find something to get dje on.
In America, part of the determination for a detention is whether the person feels like they have the ability to freely leave. If the police says "STAY HERE!" and you don't feel like you can walk away then that could turn into an investigative detention.
The laws of England and Wales - not necessarily the whole UK - grant a police officer the right to stop anyone for questioning. That stop is what in US is called detention and leaving is not an option. Naturally, members of the public can refuse to answer questions, but imho that is unwise if the encounter is friendly.
@@patricklockerby4308 Only if the officer has reasonable grounds to suspect a crime is or is about to be committed . if the officer can not articulate a crime then you can't lawfully be detained . so if you are not guilty of a crime them you are not engaged in a friendly encounter , you are being treated as a suspect . you could unwittingly incriminate yourself due to information you are not privy to, that the officer uses to frame the questions to frame you for a crime you never commited .
Brilliant video. Loved the views. Great that you stood up to that idiot police officer, clearly over thinking things and clearly trying to bully you. 👏👏👏 Well done 👍
Stumped them when you're telling the truth well done
The standard of policing in this country is substandard and really scary heading towards a police state
We're supposedly "policed by consent", so I assume consent can be withdrawn when THEY misbehave..........😊
"Drawing on the police station." LOL
it was the cop who was an artist a piss artist
"They're doing paperwork do you wanna chat to us?"
.. 5 seconds later...
"Why do you wanna chat to us?"
Haha
What a know nothing cop? He would annoy anyone with his attitude?
😳😳🤡🤡🙄🙄
that officer is the reason why why we dont like the police in the UK.
Another self-important, motormouth cop - what a wally.
Mug! Copper treats him like crap and he says, i'm happy to wait. I'd have walked away.
no video to watch doing that though
But he could have asked if he was detained thou!
He said he's got things to do? How much time did he waste with all the crap. He didn't even know the difference between his responsibility as a data handler and that of a private person taking photos or recording.
Cops all around the world think that it’s always all about them. If someone walks away from the area that they’re in “they walked away because they’re up to something” 😂 I have the freedom to change my mind and go in a different direction.
The illogical fear from a flying camera is extraordinary.
Your style of interaction (I won't say auditing) is commendable. You're knowledeable and polite and the police become discombobulated by your exemplary approach while trying to abuse your rights. Best on TH-cam, look out AB.
The constable portrayed HIMSELF in a bad light - didn't introduce himself, didn't advise he was recording, tried to make things up as he went along....pretty poor performance.
And worse hadn’t got a clue about the law. What a plonker
and then went to move his car from double yellows, one law for us one law for them
BUT WE feel safer when they are around DO WE NOT ???????????????????????????????????????????'
Down in the south I often notice how cool people’s personalities can be from TH-cam videos. I’m from northern England so I’m not experienced with the south but, these cops had chilly personalities, and it just reinforces my stereotype.
27:00 Police cannot legally detain anyone outside of arrest except in three specific circumstances. Breach of the peace, stop and search and when a property is being search. That's from a barrister (Iain Gould) so that's the law. They can ask people to wait or stay and sheeple will do so. But if someone wants to walk away the police cannot grab that person.
The police would have to make an arrest to lawfully detain someone who wanted to walk away. But that's paper work and admin even if the person is de-arrested within minutes. And constables hate paperwork. Mainly because their understanding of spelling and grammar is atrocious.
The Police are now Finished.
Great Audit and you got the walk of shame out of those idiots 👍
How on Earth is that guy an officer??
No, really. What is going on with these over entitled officers thinking that they rule over the people? I'm all for the Police. 100% support them. But when officers act like this, it makes me sick!
Well handled. Good video
27,07 copper admitted you weren't suspected of a crime. So that was definitely not a detainment. Well done for catching that "we'll let you go on your way", he couldn't stop you legally anyway.
I have the operator ID as a QR code on my drone. I recommend that if you have many interactions with cops, because some of them are too stupid to understand how to retrieve it. I also think I'm going to put blue or red tape on it to make it easier to have VLOS. Then cops can't use that as an excuse either.
I don't recommend going to the police station announcing that you're going to fly a drone. Also I wouldn't recommend admitting to flying it or even telling that you have a drone. This could have gone a lot worse, but it makes good content.
He mentioned grading cops. I'll give him a C- 😅
What a stinking attitude that cop had.
The attitude of the Police is like that of a primary school child
Walks up and passive aggressively talks shit about something he knows nothing about. goes away, finds out he knew even less than he thought he did and that he's made himself look like a weapon, comes back and passive aggressively has a final wee nibble. Great police work.
From a bull to a slapped pup......!'M LOVING IT!
Oxford is beautiful and wasted on some!
Our boys in blue
Wow
Appalling attitude
Intimidating tactics
Good for you standing up for your rights
For all our rights
Respect
Don't feed them the word 'suspicious' better to say "I have done nothing illegal" He could easily have turned on you and said I am suspicious of you commiting a crime.
Considerate, Understanding, National Treasures!
Not sure people can put two and two together and just read the initials to see what you mean. anyway now I have pointed it out to people reading this. C. U. N.ext T.ime hope they understand now.
@@darrylrichardson7940 It was meant as a rather 'Subtle Comment.' People often put Two and Two together and make Five - Thinking that I am praising someone! However, I am glad that you found the correct interpretation! :)
Unfortunate this police officer has got a big ego problem.
Well that's redundant you already called him a piglice officer
"Will you do us a favour and wait here despite being not detained whilst I go and see if I can find a reason to detain you please?" 😂 Utter clownery
Police are full of useful information about alternative places for drones to fly. What a useful service.
You can see why there is a disconnect, rude police officer.retired lifeboatman
Parking on double yellows no blue lights. Not an emergency...
my wife worked there 25 years ago, she came back to Nwcastle 2 years later, met me in a pub and we got married in 2003, 20 yrs together now, love your videos
It is disappointing to see ignorant and aggressive cops like this one attempting to harass public photography, what tools of growing 'Fascism' by police agencies...
Coppers still being taught laws from members of public
Cool view! I always wanted a drone ❤❤
that cop has a nasty attitude and very aggressive
He made a right Pratt of himself and he knew it 😂
Brilliant verbal judo dje, loved it, kept his feet to this fire without burning, awesome work as always, merry Xmas my friend.
They blame the public for their unprofessional behaviour.
Shout out to the bloke who stops and lets his dog piss on the bus stop behind the cop while on camera 🤣
Sucks when a citizen knows his rights.
Dissapointed in Oxfords court , I expected something much grander.
Only has to deal with rowdy revellers and drunken academians.
That copper's attitude is dreadful, doesn;t like being told no and get's angry pretty quickly.
thankfully most are not armed YET.
Egotistical cop who didn’t know a thing but was prepared to try and flex his muscle if you didn’t know the law. The usual not telling you he was filming till asked. He was trying to be clever but instead looked a bit of a fool.
I like the way you handled that.
Very well handled dj em
Constable aggression...any bets he's divorced?
Doesn't play " billy big balls". when a mob shouts ...from the river to the sea.....
👍
Agreed