Kramnik BEATING Fabiano in Titled Tuesday WITH EVAL BAR!!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
  • Here's a video of Former World Champion Vladimir Kramnik playing Fabiano Caruana (World #3) on his live stream in a Titled Tuesday game earlier this year. After weeks and months of hard work and consultation with many specialists, we have managed to add an eval bar to the game. Enjoy!
    Disclaimer: This is a light-hearted video meant to showcase a good game played by Mr. Kramnik online. Please don't take it too seriously.
    Thanks for watching!
    #vladimirkramnik #fabianocaruana #titledtuesday
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  • @Ar_Classic
    @Ar_Classic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +388

    Fabiano be like "everything is clear to me, let's do the procedure"

  • @StevenSenjaya
    @StevenSenjaya 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +487

    Wow Kramnik plays with an evaluation bar? I mean how is this even possible? Do the procedure 😡😡😡😡😡😡

    • @luddz1574
      @luddz1574 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      the thing he is complaining about is about editing it in while you stream. If Hikarus editors did it he could just pull up his own stream with an eval bar.

    • @FlagimirKramnik
      @FlagimirKramnik 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      But, it's not in the stream. Do you even watch his stream ? Kramnik is basing it on a TH-cam uploaded video that is uploaded pretty quickly after streaming...but he is forgetting how fast and easy everything is nowadays.everyone is on 1gbit fiber and has hexacore + machines by default.

    • @luddz1574
      @luddz1574 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@FlagimirKramnik The eval bar is active while he streams. This is a video which is completetly different.

    • @chessguy1232
      @chessguy1232 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@luddz1574 you've never watched hikaru
      s streams did ya

    • @MRBONES-xo1ku
      @MRBONES-xo1ku 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I watch every hikaru's tt stream,there's never an eval bar in his stream lol stop the CAP​@@luddz1574

  • @halfriver
    @halfriver 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +282

    I am sure this took you AT LEAST a whole month of huge work

    • @Bai_Su_Zhen
      @Bai_Su_Zhen 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Imagine how manually he had to do it

    • @mriiae
      @mriiae 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      it's actually easy to add eval bar, you just have to play same game with same time while watching the stream, then just cut the eval bar and put it on the original video, so simple

    • @dafeac
      @dafeac 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@mriiae I already talked to the experts, not the statistiks experts, and this is not the case please think before posting or I'll be doing the procedure

    • @ZDTF
      @ZDTF วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Bai_Su_Zhen kitty!!!

  • @rikus6201
    @rikus6201 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    He beat fabiano guys. And then he loses to random 2200 fidemasters. But nobody is cheating yeah

  • @victor6010
    @victor6010 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    "Oh I won, let's not do the procedure then :)" - Nik, Kram

  • @maatte7093
    @maatte7093 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    An eval bar??? According to scientists it should take a lot of days with multiple engineers working on it! He must be cheating!!

    • @JohnKuhles1966
      @JohnKuhles1966 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      it is an EDITED RE-UPLOAD FFS ... use your brain please ... done by 100s of content creators for years!

    • @maatte7093
      @maatte7093 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@JohnKuhles1966 who is gonna tell this guy 💀

    • @dafeac
      @dafeac 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      not possible even, would need a pararel universe to record both and put them together, why go to so much trouble when there is a simpler explanation, is clear to me now and it should be to you ifs smart

    • @maatte7093
      @maatte7093 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dafeac 100% agree, according to science he is cheating

    • @zhyklo
      @zhyklo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely cheating, lets do the procedure.

  • @theimmux3034
    @theimmux3034 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    everything is clear to me now

  • @shamank
    @shamank 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    "I managed to beat Fabiano... Interesting"

  • @jargon850
    @jargon850 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    KRAMNIK USING EVAL BAR DURING TITLED TUESDAYS? THIS IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE AND ITS CRAZY TO ME THAT NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT

    • @reav3rtm
      @reav3rtm 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Right? And he accused Hikaru and is doing it himself. What a clown 😂

    • @Techy_p
      @Techy_p 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I don't think the players see the eval bar

    • @reav3rtm
      @reav3rtm 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@Techy_p We know that, you know that, Kramnik doesn't. We are trolling him.

    • @awesomechannel7713
      @awesomechannel7713 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@reav3rtm both of them are clowns and have cheated at some point of their careers

    • @reav3rtm
      @reav3rtm 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@awesomechannel7713 Kramnik cheated? That's would be news. Unless you mean taxes or something.

  • @iceyroo
    @iceyroo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    Oh no, start the procedure…

    • @TightKnights
      @TightKnights  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Not this time!

    • @MohammadImtiaz1
      @MohammadImtiaz1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Rules dont apply to the maker!

  • @SsdsMmmmm-g1d
    @SsdsMmmmm-g1d 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    The smile in the end 😂

  • @Kyxel
    @Kyxel 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Kramnik complaining about how an eval bar can be edited into Hikaru’s stream and saying it’s not possible, and his claims immediately getting dismantled and backfired on him.

    • @telemahos2
      @telemahos2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No they don't.
      Kramnik is valid to question how these processes behind the scenes (involving editors etc) could be exploited - now or in the future. How they remain unregulated within a dubious context of money and content-making (so there's motive). And how it's problematic within the new, changing, context of chess playing (i.e. online, corporate monopolies etc.) that they still remain unknown in their specifics.

    • @PostWin
      @PostWin 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@telemahos2No Kramnik is not valid in anything this especially this new eval accusation
      -Kramnik accuses Hikaru of having the eval bar on stream even though he doesnt and its only on his videos.
      -Kramnik says such work will take a long time because other people said so, making him entirely uneducated in this regard and its either him or the people he asked are lying about the it.
      If Kramnik doesnt know how this works, maybe become educated on it and ask actual editors before accusations. Just like the statistics accusations, all he is doing is making his ignorance known and embarrassing himself

    • @aleksihiltunen7063
      @aleksihiltunen7063 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ⁠@@telemahos2 Unregulated? People can edit their videos all they want and add million eval bars if they wish. There’s nothing to be regulated in that. Kramnik again knew nothing about the topic and jumped right to the false accusations without a second thought. He even begged the other top players to ”raise his voice against such a clear violation of rules”. Pathetic. He managed to prove that cheating could be possible by not showing the viewers the same view as he sees which shouldn’t be big news if he knew anything about live streaming. Instead of ”questioning” he decided to directly accuse again and it indeed backfired. Just pathetic.

    • @aleksihiltunen7063
      @aleksihiltunen7063 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@telemahos2 Btw good job copy pasting your comment on every second comment. Hope someone pays you good for that hard work

    • @telemahos2
      @telemahos2 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aleksihiltunen7063 Are you intentionally thick?... "Unregulated" refers to online chess playing, the new development of chess, and not to editing videos!!.....

  • @WildernesSam
    @WildernesSam 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +123

    I appreciate the last scene where you remind everyone the legend status of Kramnik, but like he did this to himself. If he didnt speak much, he would probably still be respected, but now there is probably no hope. Kramnik will go down in history as "the procedure" guy. unlucky

    • @hurmuzi1545
      @hurmuzi1545 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      just keep in mind that most statements he has made are 100% correct- THE ONLY REASON why is is hated as much as he is right now, is because he called out hikaru on suspicions for cheating... One of his statements is that online chess has a massive problem with cheaters or something along those words, and he is absolutely right, nowadays especially in the lower rated side "below 2000" i cant go 10 games without facing a cheater. Most of his hate is coming from assuming a famous streamer/chessplayer is cheating in his games, and while even I think he is wrong on that part, i still respect on what he has to say for other things and him being a true G for calling them out.

    • @kikook222
      @kikook222 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      He's one bad day away from being known as that disgraced GM who got sued by other GM's for false accusations leading to FIDE to remove his GM status as a way to save face .

    • @thebcwonder4850
      @thebcwonder4850 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      @@hurmuzi1545 I don’t think accusing a 13 year old of cheating is “100% correct”. Most of the things he says nowadays are wrong

    • @halfriver
      @halfriver 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      @@hurmuzi1545 You say most of his statements are 100% correct but then you give a single example of something that everyone agreed on even BEFORE he started his "crusade". So what exactly did he bring to the table to solve this problem? Instead of drawing attention to actual cheaters he's going after Hikaru, Jospem (who proved himself legit), Danya + others. Now he doesn't understand how easy it is to edit a video and calls that cheating..
      Seems to me like he is actually helping cheaters by deflecting attention and usually just gets frustrated because he can't handle a mouse as well as other players.

    • @Ardarail
      @Ardarail 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​​@@hurmuzi1545 that is the "only reason". In fact, it's not even the main reason people don't like Kramnik. The primary reason is he is a poor loser and jumps to report any player that beats him to save his ego. You can literally see the progression during his games when he starts losing he starts looking for reasons why his opponent's play is suspicious. "Strange move. He's playing very quickly. Time to do the procedure."

  • @seldom_bucket
    @seldom_bucket 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    For anyone wondering you're not allowed to use the evaluation bar during games and this is 100% water tight proof that kramnik is using it whilst streaming.

    • @JSSTyger
      @JSSTyger 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      No it isn't. The eval bar was added by the video uploader.

    • @jargon850
      @jargon850 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@JSSTyger that would take several weeks of work and is very hard to do. most likely he had it on his stream

    • @Joe-po8rx
      @Joe-po8rx 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@JSSTygerthat would be the joke

    • @DeepfriedBeans4492
      @DeepfriedBeans4492 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Joe-po8rxthat’s incredibly irresponsible to treat it like a joke when these are very serious accusations being made on kramnik

    • @Joe-po8rx
      @Joe-po8rx 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DeepfriedBeans4492 on or by?

  • @Top_burger
    @Top_burger 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Kramnik is a legend although sometimes he gets on our nerves but he will remain top 10 gm

  • @andrejbogdanov2816
    @andrejbogdanov2816 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The music is perfect!

  • @TheWizardsOfOz
    @TheWizardsOfOz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    KRAMNIK MUST BE CHEATING! He can clearly see the eval bar.

    • @InVersionStudio
      @InVersionStudio 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But Hikaru with an editor can make it online with no cheating. So, I resume, everyone can

  • @akhmadhabibi7581
    @akhmadhabibi7581 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love ur content ❤❤❤

  • @akhmadhabibi7581
    @akhmadhabibi7581 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This need to be viral

  • @git_blame
    @git_blame 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    Now Kramnik is able to cheat without going to toilet.

    • @JohnKuhles1966
      @JohnKuhles1966 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      or pissing in the wind getting wet

  • @Viewer13128
    @Viewer13128 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If your description is sarcasm, some Kramnik supporters didnt get it because it adds up for them. Should add an obvious fallacy in it so they get more its sarcasm. The timing alone of suddenly mentioning eval bar didnt make them realize it was referencing a very recent drama.

  • @asdkpi6897
    @asdkpi6897 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guys, that's not Kramnik stream. This is just a video

  • @markheadhunter9103
    @markheadhunter9103 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Respect to Vladimir Kramnik!

  • @mdqmatias
    @mdqmatias 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's not that difficult to understand that the evaluation var is not showed to the player live, it's just an add on to the live stream or the recording.

  • @ltsArlong
    @ltsArlong 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    fabiano did the procedure after the game

  • @axelconde529
    @axelconde529 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you did this alone, i think you have invest at least 8 moths editing it with the eval bar, good work

  • @yannilibbes8219
    @yannilibbes8219 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    i think it's genuinely stupid when people ask us to be respectful of Kramnik at this point. he seems incapable of treating any other human being with respect in any way: he says he has "statistics" that prove certain high level players are cheating (even though he didn't even graduate high school), but he won't show it to any of the many math professionals in the chess world or submit it to be peer reviewed; a person who edits full time tells kramnik (a man who I am sure has never done any editing to any video other than exporting) this is possible, and he says 'wrong'; kramnik touts himself as being one of the only people who fights chess cheating for REAL in the online space and he can't even recognize when an account has actually been banned for cheating.
    he's completely lost it and it's pathetic how people treat him with kid gloves, even Levy did it in his interview with Kramnik. he said he "doesn't understand that sort of thing" when talking about Kramnik's phony statistics but Levy has a degree in stats. he could EASILY study the paper and tell him exactly why Kramnik is wrong but then kramnik would block Levy on twitter and refuse interviews, so he just ignores it and lets the man exist in his ignorance. Kramnik is a man who is nearly 50 and is acting like a 9 year old on a playground.

    • @sciencecubicle
      @sciencecubicle 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Okay, but you can disagree with someone respectfully too, right? No need to resort to name-calling

    • @yannilibbes8219
      @yannilibbes8219 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@sciencecubicle no need to be nice to people making preposterous claims against all advice/knowledge of experts. shit like that is how we got maga

    • @xeffary7390
      @xeffary7390 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      bro he's criticised like 3 people, stop the paragraphs. "incapable of treating any other human being with respect" LOL

    • @ovejita15
      @ovejita15 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@xeffary7390 3????? are you sure?

    • @telemahos2
      @telemahos2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kramnik is valid to question how processes behind the scenes (involving editors, software etc) could be exploited - now or in the future. How they remain unregulated within a dubious context of money and content-making (so there's motive). And how it's problematic within the NEW, changing, context of chess playing (i.e. online, corporate monopolies, popular players, money-making etc.) that they still remain unknown in their specifics.

  • @Drumaier
    @Drumaier 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kramnik is shamelessly seeing the eval bar while playing. The king of cheaters exposed 🎉🎉🎉

  • @kryptos2204
    @kryptos2204 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    lost on time like everytime lmao kramnik is a comedian

    • @davidsantiago7808
      @davidsantiago7808 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's so slooww bro

    • @Mnil52
      @Mnil52 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@davidsantiago7808yeah you should beat him on time

    • @davidsantiago7808
      @davidsantiago7808 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mnil52 I probably could apparently a lot of people are doing it. He's so washed up.

    • @Hertic50
      @Hertic50 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He would destroy you before you get the endgame​@@davidsantiago7808

  • @cccpkingu
    @cccpkingu 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Procedural chess progresses by itself

  • @walterbrownstone8017
    @walterbrownstone8017 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep that's a Fabiano game. I think he's obsessed with getting all his pawns on one color.

  • @vickmackey24
    @vickmackey24 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How many weeks did it take for your team of video engineers to make this? 🤨

  • @zacharysherry2910
    @zacharysherry2910 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "o-kay" 😂

  • @user-rh9xk2mz1y
    @user-rh9xk2mz1y 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Браво, Маэстро!

  • @calmlittlebuddy3721
    @calmlittlebuddy3721 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't see how this is possible!

  • @robertorlowski4799
    @robertorlowski4799 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Y'all didn’t read the video description.

  • @brerbear2858
    @brerbear2858 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting!

  • @lillithplays6514
    @lillithplays6514 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kramnik reminds me of the Charlie Day conspiracy board meme

  • @d0wnpour
    @d0wnpour 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's the name of the background music?

  • @ambluewinner6929
    @ambluewinner6929 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Could anyone just tell me how do you get the live eval bar of the game. cuz I assume you weren't recording the game with an eval bar.

    • @hitmanfcp1
      @hitmanfcp1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      My guess is he just runs the game afterwards and times the moves with the video, then cuts the bar and splices it into the streamed board. That's how my tech ignorant self would do it. But there's probably a better way.

    • @kawan3661
      @kawan3661 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hitmanfcp1 what? nooo! it's DAYS OF WORK! believe me! I'm an expert and the one making Kramnik pay for it. so...

    • @yuurai
      @yuurai 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The only better way is probably spectating live chess and splicing the stream onto the video so it keeps Kramnik's mouse and just get the perfect frame edit.

    • @allieannette3712
      @allieannette3712 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@yuuraiyeah. Record the actually game. Put the moves in and just play through it. Splice the two together. Eval bar takes time to adjust anyways so it looks natural.

  • @luciangv3252
    @luciangv3252 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching him playing chess is great

  • @TrashTaster
    @TrashTaster 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its time for Fabi to start the procedure. Who knows, he might find something...Interesting.

  • @chessbrahh2068
    @chessbrahh2068 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nice 😀

  • @InVersionStudio
    @InVersionStudio 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's his experiment with Hikaru editor, I think. They make a agreement on a editor's channel

  • @reav3rtm
    @reav3rtm 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kramnik played with eval bar on. #cheatertuesday

  • @user-fq6if7oe9e
    @user-fq6if7oe9e 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Забавно как он вместо звука [θ] произносит звук [s], и когда он говорит "three" я постоянно слышу "сри сри сри"😂

  • @AnandTirumala
    @AnandTirumala 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kramnik is a great player!!

  • @AITullball3333
    @AITullball3333 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You and many people keep missing his point. The point was not that editing in an evaluation bar is impossible, but that it is not very practical.

  • @JohnKuhles1966
    @JohnKuhles1966 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I watched 1000s of chess videos ... AND NO ONE DOES IT LIKE how Kramnik does ... he does NOT drag the chess peaces with his mouse, he clicks on it shortly then click on it AGAIN on the destination. If he does that too many times, will have a finger nerve overload, getting a cramp or something. He also seems he does not know how to change settings to use pre-moves (only the OBVIOUS moves) that feature alone can save so much time!

    • @MrOpen2012
      @MrOpen2012 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think he said, he don't want to premove, because that's not how chess should be played...Or something like that.

    • @ismbks
      @ismbks 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      i don't see how clicking twice could be the cause of a repeated stress injured, maybe he's old but still it shouldn't be a problem, if anything he just needs to have his arm in a good position or maybe buy a vertical mouse

    • @dgmullin1
      @dgmullin1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      From watching his videos, it seems like Levy also does this, no?

    • @rhwing5095
      @rhwing5095 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dgmullin1 clicking+clicking is actually by far the most reliable way to play. Watch and laugh how many times the "draggers" will mouseslip a piece by dropping it where they didn't intend to, or drag the wrong piece and drop it when trying to grab another one, usually resulting in cussing out the mouse (you know who I'm talking about ;)). Perhaps the only significant advantage to dragging is it is faster (and safer) in a time scramble. Kramnik, being quite old school and not even growing up with online blitz, doesn't really "do" time scrambles, if you know what I mean. Most of the guys you see dragging are going to be doing rapid mouse movements (even when they don't have to hurry), playing some form of blitz or bullet. There is also a (less relevant) argument that it's "more natural", which is why a lot of people may start out dragging and stay that way out of habit.

    • @AndersHaalandverby
      @AndersHaalandverby 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's a bit from a different era. He does not pre-move, doesnt believe in it, somehow. Also, he probably played computer chess before mouse dragging was a thing, so maybe he just settled into click-click as the way you play on a computer.

  • @avertigo
    @avertigo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why not a tag in the bar with text ‘seen by Kramnik’? 😅

  • @CSGOCOMPILER
    @CSGOCOMPILER 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People are focusing on eval bars, but they are not paying any attention to how people are cheating by dragging pieces. You can only move pieces by clicking on them.

  • @ruslanwarrior2466
    @ruslanwarrior2466 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the song at the end of the video?

  • @lesbian_index_lebrorum_main
    @lesbian_index_lebrorum_main 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Second screen (with bar ofc) doing the procedures

  • @oussamaelbaz5932
    @oussamaelbaz5932 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is genius 😂

  • @kayoshhegde7701
    @kayoshhegde7701 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Outro Song pls

  • @LightHunter001
    @LightHunter001 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    an evak bar? very interesting...

  • @CWPWWRESTLING
    @CWPWWRESTLING 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ok what is this??? How is there an eval bar okay this must be impossible

  • @DrunkEmpiric
    @DrunkEmpiric 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Владимир Борисович! Ура! Ура! Ура!

  • @Goatz99
    @Goatz99 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "i mean this is ridiculous, youtuber hacked my account and is cheating on it now with evaluation bar"

  • @JordanJ-uo8il
    @JordanJ-uo8il 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn bro must have taken you “months” *sigh* time to start de procedure…

  • @SELECT289
    @SELECT289 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If someone on Kramnik's team is watching this can you please inform him that the "negative edge" from releasing a mouse button by dragging a chess piece really adds up in online blitz games - versus point clicking. I don't know maybe he has arthritis, I'm just saying.

    • @bobesfanchi
      @bobesfanchi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He actually suffers from AS: ankylosing spondylitis which is a rare form of arthritis

    • @SELECT289
      @SELECT289 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bobesfanchi Oh wow I didn't know, thanks for the info. Google says it is more associated with the spine but sounds painful.

  • @mafyakenan9198
    @mafyakenan9198 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bro coming from 100 years late

  • @FernandoAguila-ow9hj
    @FernandoAguila-ow9hj 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The wife:
    Fabiano: everything is clear to me now you cheated on me im doing the procedure

  • @awesomechannel7713
    @awesomechannel7713 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just to make it clear. The facts that Kramnik behaves like clown and has cheated in 2006 doesn't mean Nakamura isn't a cheater. He probably is and for sure is a clown too.

  • @imeprezime1285
    @imeprezime1285 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You meant Kramnik beating Caruana, didn't you?

  • @e3m88
    @e3m88 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sad thing is that Fabiano did the procedure.

  • @HostaMahogey-if4hp
    @HostaMahogey-if4hp 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Impossible!

  • @whateverman2382
    @whateverman2382 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Besides the suspicious eval bar, I think this game contains a lot of mistakes for both sides even when the time isn't that low. So I guess it isn't a cheated game? Of course, he still needs to explain why it appears tho.

  • @Katatopianos
    @Katatopianos 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kramnik is cheating, Kramnik is cheating!!!

  • @nadonadodo
    @nadonadodo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    와 그래도 전설은 전설이네 존나 잘한다

  • @tgwnn
    @tgwnn 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    interesting 🤔

  • @carlmagnussen7773
    @carlmagnussen7773 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kasparov has never been 2851 and will never be 2851 how did they manage to put this number in???

    • @Vanhaomena
      @Vanhaomena 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He was 2851 in July 1999

    • @carlmagnussen7773
      @carlmagnussen7773 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Vanhaomena No he wasn't, in that year and the years before top GMs had a rating of 2650+ maximum 2700+ which was very very high. I remember this. The 2851 rating is an estimated fictitious rating same thing with Fischer. The same thing with their IQ that was never measured.

    • @Vanhaomena
      @Vanhaomena 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@carlmagnussen7773 Nothing fictitious about it: his official FIDE rating was 2851. It's not an estimation, he just got there with the results of his FIDE rated games.

    • @Vanhaomena
      @Vanhaomena 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      By the way, his rating is still 2812, on this exact moment. World rank 2. He's just inactive. TH-cam seems to hate direct links, but FIDE ID 4100018 has a current, official, not estimated, rating of 2812.

    • @carlmagnussen7773
      @carlmagnussen7773 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Vanhaomena I know but it is incorrect.

  • @FlagimirKramnik
    @FlagimirKramnik 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only reasonable reply to this accusation about the eval bar is OK BOOMER.

  • @Idiomatick
    @Idiomatick 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kramnik is good at chess... just not statistics.

  • @Smoky_Mountain21
    @Smoky_Mountain21 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Kramnik talking crap about how hard it is to add an evaluation bar when he literally did that 😂

    • @andrejbogdanov2816
      @andrejbogdanov2816 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The guy who made the video added the evaluation bar. How dense are you?

    • @jargon850
      @jargon850 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@andrejbogdanov2816 uhm thats unclear i think he might have had the eval bar on his stream as it would take several weeks of work to edit it in later

  • @growing9143
    @growing9143 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Fabi, ever the sportsman, resigns when he had a couple more futile checks available to try to flag him.

    • @MrOpen2012
      @MrOpen2012 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You do understand they have increment, right? They played last 20 moves with 2 seconds on their clock. Plus it was mate in the next move.

    • @growing9143
      @growing9143 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MrOpen2012 I’m aware. Vlad is in Russia, with a slower connection and has had some high-profile chokes under time pressure and Fabi had several futile checks he could have made in the hope of flagging. It is blitz with a few seconds. Perhaps this isn’t the best example for my point, but I generally find Fabi a solid sportsman in an increasingly unsportsmanlike climate.

    • @MrOpen2012
      @MrOpen2012 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@growing9143 Ye, it's really not the best example for your point, but I agree with you about Fabi.

  • @TIZI8493
    @TIZI8493 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fabiano is not Italian XD I wish he was

  • @user-xb2jh1bu6i
    @user-xb2jh1bu6i 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Evil 👿 bar 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jinjurbreadman
    @jinjurbreadman 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ok, if you weren't convinced that he was crazy with the constant online rambling, you can still tell he is crazy because he still clicks on the piece, then the square he wants it to move to in 3m+2s. like, does he not know he can drag the piece? if it is the case that he doesn't know how to drag a chess piece online, then I'm sure the eval bar is just magic to him. Also, I notice he doesn't pre-move the capture at 2:58 or 4:53. if the chess play interface is too much for him, of course he is going to be suspicious of everything. (Does he seriously never pre-move?)

    • @e3m88
      @e3m88 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How is dragging better than 2 clicks? How many ms are you wasting on a click?

    • @ghostwitch644
      @ghostwitch644 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm a perfectly sane, mentally sound adult. I click twice to be certain I don't accidentally move my piece to a square I didn't want it to be on. Mistakes like that can happen. I also have my pre-moves turned off because I play time controls where it isn't really necessary, and to force myself to consider a move before I make it. Do you consider me crazy?

  • @ArielBsYT
    @ArielBsYT 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2 views💀

  • @EnriqueNuesch
    @EnriqueNuesch 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, you can HEAR how Kramnik is *boomerclicking* that mouse. Of course he will be slower than the newest generation, and then goes throwing his "cheater" tantrums.

  • @gioeledadda5977
    @gioeledadda5977 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LMAO

  • @telemahos2
    @telemahos2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kramnik is valid to question how processes behind the scenes (involving editors, software etc) could be exploited - now or in the future.
    How they remain unregulated within a dubious context of money and content-making (so there's motive and lack of deep interest to expose problems).
    And how it's problematic within the NEW, changing, context of chess playing (i.e. online, corporate monopolies, popular players, money-making etc.) that they still remain unknown in their specifics.
    The questions Kramnik raises are valid and useful

  • @Crashawsome
    @Crashawsome 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Liar Vlad has been given plenty of chances, but his system is never explained. Fabiano must hate that he gave this guy a platform ot spout his nonsense.

  • @lordtommy8852
    @lordtommy8852 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As much he can be seen as a clown
    People do need to remember this man is one of the absolute Goats of chess

    • @allieannette3712
      @allieannette3712 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      As a human, not so much

    • @thebcwonder4850
      @thebcwonder4850 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really, he’s not in the same tier as Fischer, Kasparov, or Magnus

    • @lordtommy8852
      @lordtommy8852 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@thebcwonder4850 he literally dethroned Kasparov what tf you are talking about

    • @thebcwonder4850
      @thebcwonder4850 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lordtommy8852 that doesn’t make him a GOAT. Even as the WC, he was never the strongest player in the world

    • @ovejita15
      @ovejita15 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Literately a mid goat of chess dressed as a clown, not really worth of the respect a wc would receive

  • @Apostolnixx
    @Apostolnixx 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ban this Kramnik guy asap

  • @reapercarl5047
    @reapercarl5047 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I get he was once a great chess player an of course hes still far better than most but he cant get past the fact that the moden generation are still improving an are better than he ever was an he cant understand it or accept it so accuses people of cheating its sad to see

    • @rhwing5095
      @rhwing5095 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would agree with you, except I think you are wrong. First, Kramnik was #2 behind Carlsen for years, and that was already beyond his prime. He was over 2800 in 2016, only the 2nd player in history over 2800. Today how many players can you count at that rating? And that's with rating inflation, as it keeps climbing. He's literally one of the chess GOATs. He retired and I don't think he has anything to prove. Second, Kramink has never had an issue losing to players he perceives as "good". If you ever watch any of his TT's, as I have a few, he is usually begging to play someone normal who plays OTB, like Carlsen, Caruana, etc. And he has no issue losing to them, and he is quite critical of his own play (and aware of his declining ability). So I think you are dead wrong in this assessment. The players he resents off the get-go are the relatively anonymous online-only types, which is where his trust issues come in and you can see he immediately starts to find their moves suspicious. Given that there actually are quite a few cheaters and you see guys getting banned all the time, presumably what he is experiencing is more like "delusion" where he starts to think more people are cheating than actually are. So while Kramnik can hold his own against the "classic" players who play OTB, especially in longer time formats, the new population of blitz specialists (with unimpressive classical ratings, but trained to find quick tricks and tactics) are a tough ask.

    • @ian27792
      @ian27792 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🤡

    • @ghostwitch644
      @ghostwitch644 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is pure speculation on your part. You're making up nonsensical reasons for why you think Kramnik is accusing others of cheating. This is something we cannot possibly know. I think the most likely explanation is that he just genuinely believes other GMs are cheating. Is his suspicion misguided? Yes, that seems to be the case. However, we can do better than imposing these ridiculous motivations like "he's unhappy nobody is talking about him" or "he can't accept that young players are improving faster than him" onto him

  • @defiant_
    @defiant_ 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hahahahahahahahahaha

  • @Eghyaggihn
    @Eghyaggihn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ладейник 2900

  • @rhwing5095
    @rhwing5095 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't really know what Kramnik is talking about here as I'm out of date with this drama, but neither do I understand what you prove with this video. That you can add an eval bar to a video? Obviously there's a big difference between a live stream and a pre-recorded video. Do you mean to say the "live streams" Kramink was referencing, where there was an eval bar, weren't livestreams?

    • @joshjac81010
      @joshjac81010 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hikaru uploaded a video on youtube of his livestream with an eval bar. The eval bar was edited in and isn't a part of his livestream. Kramnik insisted that it is too hard to do that for some reason and insisted that it can indicate that Hikaru is cheating.

  • @ArielBsYT
    @ArielBsYT 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First comment

  • @awesomechannel7713
    @awesomechannel7713 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Both of them cheated in this game and some others.

  • @Crashawsome
    @Crashawsome 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He's a liar and a scammer out to promote his shady company, but be nice!

  • @shu6037
    @shu6037 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hikaru deserves kramnik. never back down my guy

  • @Greggles
    @Greggles 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @VBKramnik!

  • @dantemarcos1410
    @dantemarcos1410 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is using evaluation bar cheating?😢 I’d think it would be 🥲

  • @lillithplays6514
    @lillithplays6514 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kramnik reminds me of the Charlie Day conspiracy board meme