Finally an elf tribal deck I want to build... Also, finally a wolf tribal deck I want to build. 😂 Considerations: One auto-include - Wolverine Riders is the Tendershoot Dryad of elves One obscure banger - Mercy Killing is a weird removal spell that can double as a weird finisher; pumping your team massively in response to your commander's trigger
I'd throw in rhythm of the Wild for some haste enabling to allow larger manan producing elves to tap instantly. Also giving the commander haste can't hurt.
Okey, I was just going to build the deck because I have been a Tolsimir player for years. Didn't expect Voja to go so hard in just turn 5! I better get one before they run out
I built this deck and I didn’t use much to do it. The total deck cost after commander and lands is $60.00. I won on turn 6 last night. The commander is near cEDH on its own. Just throw whatever elves you have and a couple wolves, then back those up with protection and spot removal from white. The commander is stupid. Lol I love it
I think it's a big mistake focusing on elves when wolves can draw you though your entire deck to find whatever protection/removal/finisher you need - I brewed it with only a few elves (mana dorks, changelings and elves that summon wolves) and then it's an easy matter to dig for (maskwood nexus/mirror entity/shields of velis vel) and attack with 20 huge creatures and win all at once. I think bloodthirster is a mistake in this brew because by the time he has impact as a 6 drop he either pulls to much aggro from other players or there are other cards that could set you up better (multiple 6 drops that can summon like 6 wolves a turn) - for me you never want to run cards where the perceived threat that other players expect is higher than the actual threat and for me bloodthirster is in that category (most of the time if you can win with bloodthirster you could have already won)
A really great wolf to run with this commander 2 would be howlgeist since you're going to be buffing it up really big. It can't be blocked by creatures that have less power than it
Based on playing Voja in arena brawl the wolves are definitely not as powerful compared to just playing elves. You can play it as a mix of the two for sure but the deck gets a lot stronger if you just focus on the elves and get your card draw through other means.
With faldorn, you still need to play the land from exile so is the only way to trigger faldorn using her activated ability? 4 mana + a discard + 2 turns to add one more wolf/card draw seems not worth it to me unless im missing something?
I wanted an abzan general to play my favourite cards which care about wolves like Tolsimir, Garruk Curse Hauntsman and Sarulf. I hoped for this but, apart from the red, this is too powerful 😢 even though is awesome, but not really my thing
The highest power level you can be and not be cEDH. This commander will stomp all your friend's casual commander decks. It's possibly even cEDH worthy, but I don't play so I have no idea. I kind of assume that no blue means it can't be competitive in cEDH. Also, attacking rarely wins in cEDH. But outside of that, it's BONKERS.
@@decktechsfordecks Voja is truly gross. I mean I have a Lathril deck, so i am gonna have to think outside the box to make this not just another Elfball. I am thinking cangelind Tribal may be the best idea given each one will boost my Wolves and Elves.
This commander is so pushed. I think they could have taken out the 3 keywords, make it buff only target creature, count only each other wolf and be a 3/3, yet still be a really good commander
Aside from just terrible bad design that does not know balance the annoying thing is we lost potentail for a strong wolf tribal commander................Instead it is more elf support which is not needed by any measure in any form>< Elves have more then enough support.
I think the deck is too safe and top end heavy. I'll try elfball with tutoring for a few big game ending bombs and sprinkle a little counters matter effects
this thing is not broken... it is vulnerable to counterspells and boardwipes. and the chance you are not gonna get wiped when you have 4 players to kill is slim. you will need to leave mana up for protection and at the same time build a board. it also does not have haste or etb. honestly people cry about everything
Absolutely bonkers commander. I will say it's weak to board wipes though but many commander decks are. Just make sure you include many board wipe protections
I can’t agree with you cause I personally love that I finally have the perfect wolf tribal commander. And it’s only not balanced if your not creative and just copy other people’s decks 🥱
Finally an elf tribal deck I want to build... Also, finally a wolf tribal deck I want to build. 😂
Considerations:
One auto-include - Wolverine Riders is the Tendershoot Dryad of elves
One obscure banger - Mercy Killing is a weird removal spell that can double as a weird finisher; pumping your team massively in response to your commander's trigger
Remember that Voja draws a card with every attack because its a wolf, it counts itself
He literally says this in the video 🤷🏼♂️
I'd throw in rhythm of the Wild for some haste enabling to allow larger manan producing elves to tap instantly. Also giving the commander haste can't hurt.
It’s in there I just lost the image while doing the video. Haste definitely puts in work!
Okey, I was just going to build the deck because I have been a Tolsimir player for years.
Didn't expect Voja to go so hard in just turn 5! I better get one before they run out
So Baeloth actually works really well in the deck. As some tech to force combats since he’s gonna be big with elf ball and Voja.
I built this deck and I didn’t use much to do it. The total deck cost after commander and lands is $60.00. I won on turn 6 last night. The commander is near cEDH on its own. Just throw whatever elves you have and a couple wolves, then back those up with protection and spot removal from white. The commander is stupid. Lol I love it
Finally, an elfball commander i'd actually want to play and not barf
Finally a commander that says "I want to win with the least amount of effort as possible"
I think it's a big mistake focusing on elves when wolves can draw you though your entire deck to find whatever protection/removal/finisher you need - I brewed it with only a few elves (mana dorks, changelings and elves that summon wolves) and then it's an easy matter to dig for (maskwood nexus/mirror entity/shields of velis vel) and attack with 20 huge creatures and win all at once. I think bloodthirster is a mistake in this brew because by the time he has impact as a 6 drop he either pulls to much aggro from other players or there are other cards that could set you up better (multiple 6 drops that can summon like 6 wolves a turn) - for me you never want to run cards where the perceived threat that other players expect is higher than the actual threat and for me bloodthirster is in that category (most of the time if you can win with bloodthirster you could have already won)
I feel like Sovereign Okinec Ahau would be a dope include, might be a little win-more though, lol
I started using him as a commander with slimes against humanity since they're 0/0s if he swings they all double their counters
A really great wolf to run with this commander 2 would be howlgeist since you're going to be buffing it up really big. It can't be blocked by creatures that have less power than it
I change bloom tender for faeburrow to add kutzil and draw even more cards :)
I like bloom tender for the elf aspect. Kutzil is an amazing add here!
Based on playing Voja in arena brawl the wolves are definitely not as powerful compared to just playing elves. You can play it as a mix of the two for sure but the deck gets a lot stronger if you just focus on the elves and get your card draw through other means.
I saw bloodthrister and i went haha yes khorne will be happy with the skulls taken with this deck
Just thought of this… what about adding vorinclex? Double the counters and a haste attacker
What do you think of hamza in the decklist
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Good good
Personal preference I still like Bloodbraid Elf (gives you a free spell) and Oracle of Mul Daya.
With faldorn, you still need to play the land from exile so is the only way to trigger faldorn using her activated ability? 4 mana + a discard + 2 turns to add one more wolf/card draw seems not worth it to me unless im missing something?
Yea I realized afterwards it’s like a loot effect that nets you a wolf a turn. Not terrible but definitely not what I wanted 😅
@@decktechsfordecks that's ok! Gives us another slot to play with!
Probably gonna be taking apart Lathril for this.
Still can't believe this guy exist, can't wait to finally win more than one game a month on our weekly game nights with him
Right she’s insane!
With the amount of green in the deck, i like emerald medallion in my list
I'm building this full of shapeshifters and token makers
I see it. Mirror entity and maskwood just win you the game in this deck
For +1+1 tokens, Aragorn or woja ?
Any deck list?
What do you mean ,hes just a funny wolf,nothing more 🙂
Killed it as always, but I gotta ask: when are you building Kylox 😂
You’re the second person to ask me that 😂
@@decktechsfordecks no way 😂😂
Is there a decklist link
Now which is more broken, this or aragorn
This 💯
nah..it costs 5. so its balanced. if it only cost 3 then it would be OP
still LOVE this card! Now to get as much value as I can ha ha
It's in green my dude. I can drop this guy turn 3 almost every time. And with ward 3, he's pretty safe.
I wanted an abzan general to play my favourite cards which care about wolves like Tolsimir, Garruk Curse Hauntsman and Sarulf. I hoped for this but, apart from the red, this is too powerful 😢 even though is awesome, but not really my thing
They did go all out with this card for no reason 😂
Voja got vigilance my friend
Is this deck expensive to build?
is it better than okinec ahau?
And what is the power level roughly
The highest power level you can be and not be cEDH. This commander will stomp all your friend's casual commander decks. It's possibly even cEDH worthy, but I don't play so I have no idea. I kind of assume that no blue means it can't be competitive in cEDH. Also, attacking rarely wins in cEDH. But outside of that, it's BONKERS.
why not dont play card with infect? ^^
Faldorn only works with lands from exile 😔
I cut it for haste enablers thanks to you guys 😁
Finally, voja and tosimir can be better and i can play them
Turns out tosimir was holding him back this whole time!
@decktechsfordecks But tolsimir is my BOY! I do have a lathril deck but Naya elves and Wolves sounds very refreshing
@@rePurgatory Amen brother!!! Wolves tribal/typal for life
I found my naya commander. I mean i have rocco, but he is not really a naya deck.
It’s so gross
@@decktechsfordecks Voja is truly gross. I mean I have a Lathril deck, so i am gonna have to think outside the box to make this not just another Elfball. I am thinking cangelind Tribal may be the best idea given each one will boost my Wolves and Elves.
i feel like ward 3 is just a bit much
Yea that’s kind of wild to me as well 😂
This commander is so pushed. I think they could have taken out the 3 keywords, make it buff only target creature, count only each other wolf and be a 3/3, yet still be a really good commander
Woof / Wooves XD
WAIT IS THAT MY NAME SPELLED CORRECTLY
The difference between monster and no monster is big 😂
45s I was here
Lmao what an animal!
Why hello Naya Korvold
Not even close
I don’t see “monster” I only see fren
Naya is really YOUR color
I used to claim Jund but you might be right!
Aside from just terrible bad design that does not know balance the annoying thing is we lost potentail for a strong wolf tribal commander................Instead it is more elf support which is not needed by any measure in any form>< Elves have more then enough support.
omg this is not ok for only 5 mana
Feed the Pack.... just sayin
I think the deck is too safe and top end heavy. I'll try elfball with tutoring for a few big game ending bombs and sprinkle a little counters matter effects
It was in the first version but the deck killed to fast for it to matter.
I cast wrath of god. Scoop.
I cast clever concealment 😁
Also, Voja keeps your hand full and you should be running haste enablers. A board wipe probably just helps clear out blockers.
I wish they would stop with all of these broken new commanders and new cards slowly. But surely ruining the gain unless you don't play them
this thing is not broken... it is vulnerable to counterspells and boardwipes. and the chance you are not gonna get wiped when you have 4 players to kill is slim. you will need to leave mana up for protection and at the same time build a board. it also does not have haste or etb. honestly people cry about everything
That's not how you say Voja...
The definition of mid
Absolutely bonkers commander. I will say it's weak to board wipes though but many commander decks are. Just make sure you include many board wipe protections
I can’t agree with you cause I personally love that I finally have the perfect wolf tribal commander. And it’s only not balanced if your not creative and just copy other people’s decks 🥱