@decktechsfordecks I Would Highly Find A Space Or Two. I Had Cut A Basic (I Prefer Playing At 35 Lands) And Kutzil (Isnt Available On Forge Yet.) And Anytime I Pulled Them It Was A Insane Power Boost
Ive been playing this commander as an anthem tribal deck and its been awesome. Its pretty resistant to wipes too because a lot of the inital power comes from the anthem effects.
@@damo9961 Doesn't draw cards OR make mana AND is limited to combat speed (and Sovereign Okinec in particular being able to attack) in a color combo that doesn't have access to extra combats. Fun certainly. But not even vaguely in the ballpark of 'busted' or 'insane'.
I’m planning on making this deck using all the lost and forgotten “when this card etb, creatures you control get +X/+X”. I love finding new homes for old useless cards.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope, while a high mana costs, would really smash in this deck, plus she is a 8/8 flyer. Hammer of Nazahn would be good for the commander as well.
3:08 I think you got the power of kalonian hydra wrong the turn it attacks. It has 12 +1/+1 counters on it and is therefore a 24/24. Put okinecs trigger first and the hydras trigger second on the stack. Hydra resolves, it gets 12 +1/+1 counters and now has 48/48. Okinecs trigger resolves, it gets 48 +1/+1 counters. Now it has 72 +1/+1 counters, resulting in a total power of 144.
Only the "counter" half of doubling season synergies well with this deck and for CMC of 5 its slow, Parallel lives is bad in this deck. it doesnt use token based abilities. Hardened Scales is perfect for this deck and its just 1 mana.
Can you use Bounty of might as a combat trick in this deck? Like they decide not to block your commander and in response you give it plus +18 for the oneshot? Or because the commander uses an attack trigger would we have to declare this prior to combat in order to get the +18?
The answer is yes and no. If our commander already has counters on it and just needs 9 more power then yes. If we need all 18 power to get our commander to 21 power then no.
I thought this would work great with cards the new Bedrock tortoise but does not work because language says "assigns damage" so the actual power of the creature never changes, but could have been awesome .
Seems quite busted.. I was thinking of adding him and Kutzil in Gylwain actually.. But do think that he might be more powerful at the helm with this kind of strategy. Just have enjoyed Gylwain so much, I am still thinking of upgrading the deck.. Still have no Bennie Bracks nor Esper Sentinel in my version. So many great options for a deck like that though.. :D
@@decktechsfordecks I hope you don't mind but after some tinkering; silly cards I have noticed that work great in this deck or just have fun interactions: - Anthem spells: Triumph of Hordes, Overrun, Vitalizing Wind, Overwhelming Stampede, For the Emperor! - For giggles try Awakening the Vitu-Ghazi on a creatureland - Anthem creatures: Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite, Thuderfoot Baloth, Wild Beastmaster, Loyal Guardian, End-Raze Forerunners, Victory Envoy - Single creature pumps: Orzhov Advokist, Court of Garenbrig, Spellbook Vendor, Luminarch Aspirant, Evolutionary Escalation - Auras: Rancor, Angelic Destiny - Other creatures: Managorger Hydra, Heroes Bane, Triskelion/Walking Ballista (+ Heliod Sun crown for infinite win combo, can also add Basilisk collar for Timmy Deathtouch), Phantom Nantuko, Phantom Nishoba, Undergrowth Champion, Lifeblood Hydra, Cytoplast Root-Kin, Evolution Sage, Pride Sovereign, Regal Caracal, Zopandrel Hunger Dominus - Boardwipe: Sunwipe - Enchantment: Paradox Zone, Unnatural Growth - Protection: Silkguard, Inspiring Call :P
@@decktechsfordecks bro when I tell you you posted this at just the right time too lol. My buddy just built a rough Shirei deck that I think this deck could DESTROY so needless to say, I might copy your homework
@@decktechsfordecksgot a massive update for you on this deck! Tried it for the first time last night and I was able to get a Gyre Sage out almost immediately, and Branching Evolution soon after. Along with SOA and a Pathbreaker Ibex out, things got fun fast. And then I had a 32/32 Steelbane come out, swung for an allotted 124 damage with trample and my buddy could only block for 11. Hopefully that made sense but point is, things went nuts lol
I made a deck for this commander in a little bit of a way. Dont know how receptive of other peoples deck lists your are but if ur interested i could share it
Just a reminder goldfishing really only shows you starting hand mulligans and first two or three turns anything after that its useless because ther isn't any other players to interact with your board. Decks seem good and powerful when you dont have opposition
I’ve found it’s a very useful tool. If you can goldfish a turn 7 win you’ll be probably be closer to a turn 10 average with opponents. It’s also super useful to newer player to see how the deck should function 😁
@@decktechsfordecks I agree it's useful but I keep running into new players at my legs saying they have really powerful decks they gold fish only to find out it doesn't perform as well with resistance that's why I suggested them to use it for starting hands mulligans and the first few turns or to flip a coin for opponent actions like boardwipes or stronger creatures on board etc
I Think Unnatural Growth And Zopandrel, Hunger Dominus Would Be Amazing In This
I was just thinking about the synergy between the commander and Unnatural Growth. Glad it works
@@TommyBoi760 After Some Testing It Works Amazingly
I was so close to including effects like that but ended up cutting them for pathbreaker ibex and more protection.
@decktechsfordecks I Would Highly Find A Space Or Two. I Had Cut A Basic (I Prefer Playing At 35 Lands) And Kutzil (Isnt Available On Forge Yet.) And Anytime I Pulled Them It Was A Insane Power Boost
If there were more hydras in the deck I would add the new polkranos to it as well
This card goes straight into my Arahbo deck, as will Kutzil. Slamdunk synergies for sure!
100%
Ive been playing this commander as an anthem tribal deck and its been awesome. Its pretty resistant to wipes too because a lot of the inital power comes from the anthem effects.
That does seem like a solid route maybe a bit slower but definitely has some resilience built in!
Do you have a link to the list? I was thinking of going that same route
@@serd213 I can throw the list together on Moxfield when I get off of work this evening.
Was looking to build this guy as soon as I saw him
I appreciate it! I’m glad you enjoyed!
Colonial Hydra is such a fitting mispronunciation since we’re on Ixalan with the vampire conquistadors.
Okay, this is straight up insane! I’m not an expert in MTG power levels, but this seems like something unfairly strong for a casual table.
hahahahahaahahahahaah. Seems 4/10 to me. Battlecruiser
@@damo9961you probably play some borin shit deck 😂
@@damo9961how are you casually such a douche?
@@eclipse1201Maybe to you, no need to hate just a preference.
@@damo9961 Doesn't draw cards OR make mana AND is limited to combat speed (and Sovereign Okinec in particular being able to attack) in a color combo that doesn't have access to extra combats.
Fun certainly.
But not even vaguely in the ballpark of 'busted' or 'insane'.
Built this deck also traverse the outlands and last March of the ents is beyond crazy in the deck
Dude didnt even wait to dry his hair before making this video 😂
I’m planning on making this deck using all the lost and forgotten “when this card etb, creatures you control get +X/+X”.
I love finding new homes for old useless cards.
Goldknight commander welcome back to the world! 😂
Reconnaisance and maze of ith are great for attacking, getting the trigger, and saving your commander.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope, while a high mana costs, would really smash in this deck, plus she is a 8/8 flyer. Hammer of Nazahn would be good for the commander as well.
I love this I’m gonna build this list!
Hell yea I’m glad you enjoyed!
Walking balista and hangar back walker insane as well
100% those are amazing suggestions
3:08 I think you got the power of kalonian hydra wrong the turn it attacks. It has 12 +1/+1 counters on it and is therefore a 24/24. Put okinecs trigger first and the hydras trigger second on the stack. Hydra resolves, it gets 12 +1/+1 counters and now has 48/48. Okinecs trigger resolves, it gets 48 +1/+1 counters. Now it has 72 +1/+1 counters, resulting in a total power of 144.
I get 144 as well
What would be the first things you would cut for doubling season/hardened scales/ parallel lives, or would those cards be too slow
Only the "counter" half of doubling season synergies well with this deck and for CMC of 5 its slow, Parallel lives is bad in this deck. it doesnt use token based abilities. Hardened Scales is perfect for this deck and its just 1 mana.
Can you use Bounty of might as a combat trick in this deck? Like they decide not to block your commander and in response you give it plus +18 for the oneshot? Or because the commander uses an attack trigger would we have to declare this prior to combat in order to get the +18?
The answer is yes and no. If our commander already has counters on it and just needs 9 more power then yes. If we need all 18 power to get our commander to 21 power then no.
Why is no one mentioning this with Bright Palm? I’ve already been doubling counters, but with Red.
Now try out Marath, Will of the Wild. I turned my Bright-Palm Precon into that!
I thought this would work great with cards the new Bedrock tortoise but does not work because language says "assigns damage" so the actual power of the creature never changes, but could have been awesome .
Seems quite busted.. I was thinking of adding him and Kutzil in Gylwain actually.. But do think that he might be more powerful at the helm with this kind of strategy.
Just have enjoyed Gylwain so much, I am still thinking of upgrading the deck.. Still have no Bennie Bracks nor Esper Sentinel in my version. So many great options for a deck like that though.. :D
He’s definitely a powerhouse!
I added benevolent hydra and the green dominus👍🏾
Upgrades for bright palm hehehehe
This deck looks super fun :P
100% the deck can do some absurd things!
@@decktechsfordecks I hope you don't mind but after some tinkering; silly cards I have noticed that work great in this deck or just have fun interactions:
- Anthem spells: Triumph of Hordes, Overrun, Vitalizing Wind, Overwhelming Stampede, For the Emperor!
- For giggles try Awakening the Vitu-Ghazi on a creatureland
- Anthem creatures: Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite, Thuderfoot Baloth, Wild Beastmaster, Loyal Guardian, End-Raze Forerunners, Victory Envoy
- Single creature pumps: Orzhov Advokist, Court of Garenbrig, Spellbook Vendor, Luminarch Aspirant, Evolutionary Escalation
- Auras: Rancor, Angelic Destiny
- Other creatures: Managorger Hydra, Heroes Bane, Triskelion/Walking Ballista (+ Heliod Sun crown for infinite win combo, can also add Basilisk collar for Timmy Deathtouch), Phantom Nantuko, Phantom Nishoba, Undergrowth Champion, Lifeblood Hydra, Cytoplast Root-Kin, Evolution Sage, Pride Sovereign, Regal Caracal, Zopandrel Hunger Dominus
- Boardwipe: Sunwipe
- Enchantment: Paradox Zone, Unnatural Growth
- Protection: Silkguard, Inspiring Call :P
LETS GOOOOOO
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@@decktechsfordecks bro when I tell you you posted this at just the right time too lol. My buddy just built a rough Shirei deck that I think this deck could DESTROY so needless to say, I might copy your homework
That’s awesome! No mercy haha let me know how it goes!
@@decktechsfordecks you already know 😤😤
@@decktechsfordecksgot a massive update for you on this deck! Tried it for the first time last night and I was able to get a Gyre Sage out almost immediately, and Branching Evolution soon after. Along with SOA and a Pathbreaker Ibex out, things got fun fast. And then I had a 32/32 Steelbane come out, swung for an allotted 124 damage with trample and my buddy could only block for 11.
Hopefully that made sense but point is, things went nuts lol
Sadly this isnt in simic colors - would be nice addition to my Quandrix Fractals :D
Wt about play hamza as Commander instead to have mana reduction?
Hamza is great in this too. But I think the kitty cat is way more explosive.
@@gUcKsEdA I'd probably go with Hamza myself. The kitty IS more explosive but Hamza's more durable.
Between Hamza, Kutzil, and Okinec, Selesnya snowballing is back on the menu.
I made a deck for this commander in a little bit of a way. Dont know how receptive of other peoples deck lists your are but if ur interested i could share it
Also look for things that massively only pump power cause okinec only cares about difference in power
This deck seems absolutely insane lol
Right it’s definitely a fun one to pilot! There’s some absurd boardstates we can create for sure!
How are you not running vigor.
Colonial Hydra
Pretty funny that if you make your creatures too big you can't cast Rishkarr's or you'll deck yourself
Right you definitely have to watch out 😂
might be worthwhile to add Reliquary Tower or Decanter of Endless Water otherwise youll have to discard heaps
My playgroup does not like me to casually do 100 trample damage. 😅
Where's silkguard?
That could definitely be a solid include. I just favor heroic intervention for the added indestructible.
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Just a reminder goldfishing really only shows you starting hand mulligans and first two or three turns anything after that its useless because ther isn't any other players to interact with your board. Decks seem good and powerful when you dont have opposition
I’ve found it’s a very useful tool. If you can goldfish a turn 7 win you’ll be probably be closer to a turn 10 average with opponents. It’s also super useful to newer player to see how the deck should function 😁
@@decktechsfordecks I agree it's useful but I keep running into new players at my legs saying they have really powerful decks they gold fish only to find out it doesn't perform as well with resistance that's why I suggested them to use it for starting hands mulligans and the first few turns or to flip a coin for opponent actions like boardwipes or stronger creatures on board etc
It's not colonial hydra, it's Kalonian. xD
First mid Mhw fight
My man!
Combined with Halana & Alena (add X counters to another creature where X is H&A power) would be ridiculous
This was originally in my Shalai and Hallar, and it got kinda nutty.