Personal theory- The lamenters *are* in fact supernaturally unlucky. The Emperor takes their luck, and gives it to others, not because he hates them, but because he knows they're the only ones with the strength of character to take it and stay loyal.
The lamenters feel like they were written by someone who has known peace and has also had it ripped violently from them repeatedly every time they got close to it again
the biggest win Lamenters get is the fact that they wont ever actually disappear, they are always going to be alive to suffer. yay................................... but seriously name another faction that surrendered in m40 and it ended up with not total destruction.
Nah, if they're gonna give them a break it needs to be unintentionally funny. Like the possibility they might turn to Chaos and the 4 Ruinious Powers are like "Oh no, no, no no... Hell no." and basically give the Lementers "Good Luck" by just tripping up their own plans and just feeding them wins... All the while Big E just looks on confused at just what the hell is happening.
I'm not even a huge Blood Angels fan, but the Lamentors? If I could send them a care package I would. A care package filled with chocolate, coffee, band-aids and the latest boltgun ammo that has the name of every Minotaur carved into it.
To all fellow lamenters get some rest, I've been begging for this video I just got home from my grandfather's funeral to see you added this thank you guys truly
Someone once pointed something put to me about them. They seem like they're horrifyingly cursed with bad luck. But for the people who they rescue its almost like god reached out and rescued them. Its almost like the luck of the lamenters has been weaponized to protect the people behind them.
Well no their not the first super soldier project of the mechanicus to have this bad luck. The Afriel strain actually have even worse luck despite being clones of the greatest human heroes of the imperium
@@jamesfreeman3617Fuck. Thank you for this comment, I haven’t heard of them, but that makes so much sense. As what Hero in human history didn’t have extremely horrible luck coming across insane situations. So that’s just awesome ~
I feel like Lamenters at some point started using the first half of their warcry (so „for those we cherish“) as a mantra to get through all the bs thrown at them.
One of my favorite Lamenter moments is the time they had to solo a Space Hulk that just by going nearby it drove people, astartes, literally anyone absolutely off the walls. The only chapter that was immune was the Lamenters and ultimately they alone were able to destroy this Space Hulk, but an Inquisitor then accused them of heresy for not destroying a massive space hulk that drove half a planet mad fast enough... The Badab story is a wild one if I've ever seen... I'll never forget when a sun was used to break a space siege fun times...
Yeah, a space hulk that drove people insane with a massive terror field and the Lamenters can endure because they are so beaten down already. And they did everything against the hulk. While others only used longest range space weapons, because anything else would risk them going insane. The Lamenters charged the whole thing, send all the boarding parties they could to rip up generators and whatever they could find, *while* their ships blasted the hulk with every weapon available. So while their own people were inside they still shot everything at it, just so they could do the most damage. The Lamenters are so extremely competent, because they can still win despite everything.
@@kieranadamson3224 He was and I quote, escorted to an airlock where he was promptly thrown through the vacuum of space to his ship. Or at least some varient of this by the Astral Claws who the inquisitor told them they would be reporting this once he returned to Terra.
@@kieranadamson3224 The Lamenters managed to make the space hulk leave realspace (it was unmanned yet still approaching a world so maybe just malicious warp fuckery) Everybody who survived gathered. Then the inquisitors who were there chastised the Lamenters and essentially told them they didn’t do enough. Basically instead of „Thx for stopping this getting even worse“ they said „Fuck you, your best was not good enough by a planet width. You are lucky you don’t get punished for incompetence.“ Then they left. Just another spit into the Lamenters‘ face and just another reason why they stuck with the Astral Claws who actually treated them like equals.
In the book Dante it is said that the Lamenters replied to the call saying they where rebuilding the chapter after everything that has happened. To which Dante was like that is unstable and not surprising, and another was like do we really even want them here to help us…. That is if I recall that part of the book correctly. It’s been just over a month or so. Dam good book by the way.
The Rememberancer did a great job with some audio shorts on the Lamenters. Warhammer+ should definitely do a series on them to showcase the grimdark of the universe as well as show that not even the humans are the”good guys” of the setting.
Imperium is definitively NOT the good one in W40K 😅 They are racist to the extrem, close-minded as fuck, ruthless and callous to their own people and even worst to other. They are tyran, and they are ineffective and wasteful... Imperium is trash, and evil dude 😂 The few humans who are not under the Imperium though ? Maybe some are OK. The one not under Chaos of course 🙄
I feel for the lamenters and how unlucky they are. I am one of those people with the worst luck around and I also understand that through it the only thing I want is to try an brighten other peoples day with a smile or a joke or even a conversation and sometimes it's hard but we can't give up. Keep spreading Joy everyone
For Me, The Lamenters embody a few different concepts, but the ones on the forefront are Optimism, Emotional Intelligence, and a simultaneous profoundly deep relationship with Grief & Hope. Idk, Reading what I could of them, and listening to Vox in The Void's narrations of fanmade stories for them, I fell in love quickly. The duality of a borderlining naive hopefulness and a remarkably mature handle on their emotions just leads to a wonderful character design. So happy to see this video.
I'm really glad the Lamenters are here because even know they are at the lowest point they still fight on for those they care about and and staying true to who they are. it's something I've really found inspiring and helpful when dealing with my own depression/mental health. Thankyou guys for covering them!
So, fun fact, there is a Blood Angel successor that is able cure those Battle Brother afflicted with the Black Rage, and that is the Angels Sanguine, and they use this pedestal called the "Tablet of Lestrallio".
I believe the chapter you’re talking about is the Blood ravens. (I could be wrong, it’s been a minute since I read about them) But, that “cure” isn’t a cure. It’s a lie & a trap under the guise of a contract. One of their old chapter masters mistakenly (it really was) made a deal with what he thought was an angel of sanguinius but it was really Kairos Fateweaver. Ultimately the deal was that, the blood ravens wouldn’t fall for the black rage (that was the “cure”), but if one, just one, ever did, the blood ravens chapter would be damned & under the control of tzeentch forever. They never really mentioned why tzeentch wants that particular chapter (maybe it’s their name) but…I don’t think we need a proper reason for why chaos in general wants something. It’s chaos after all.
@@AlextheGreat647 I think you are talking about Blood Drinkers.Blood Ravens’s origins are unknown and they are very heavily trying to find anything about it.Some Blood Drinker battle brothers find a figure they think sanguinius and he says “Drinking Blood slurp slurp.Black Rage bye bye ”.But it is actually a daemon trying to scam them and he oftenly comes back and offers a place in chaos.
30 minutes in and in my opinion, the Lamenters are not simply "Sad" or even "Died in a losing battle." They are the Peter Parker of Games Workshop and some executive specifically made it a policy of "You see these guys? They MUST suffer."
I think these guys and the salamanders might get along if they end up having enough numbers before a get together. I mean the one group with the Primark most likely the hug anyone with depression it's the most likely to wave off the bad luck.
Honestly I’d love to see even a short story where some other chapter is fighting alongside the lamenters and it’s just brutal fighting and they’re just going “emperor what did we do to deserve this” and then one of the lamenters comes by and is thanking the emperor for an easier mission for once😂
Lamenters, the only Chapter that the Alpha Legion will not infiltrate. Alpharius Yes, Alpharius. Your next mission is to infiltrate the Lamenters. "... " Take bolter, shoot himself in the head. I can understand the reaction
@@painlord2k when they were talking about the Lamenters finally making a friend, I was waiting for Isyander to drop the bomb that the only friend they ever made was Alpha Legion and now they look super heretical.
Canadian here! My great grandpa fought in WW1 he was an incredibly hard man. But… he was also the kindest in the family. So he carried a duality that was incredible.
It always makes me sadge when the astral claws get painted as monsters =(( They had to do the impossible for the thankless and they managed. Even followed the rules by doing a lawfull succession. And got hounded for it. Just to make an example. There was a clear turning point where they went they skewed go chaos after being pushed there. "Who would do such a thing" meme personified for a glorious chapter.
22:25 At one point in WW2, the entire Canadian Army went Inglorious Basterds and decided they weren't taking SS prisoners anymore after some SS executed some Canadian POWs. DEATHWATCH DEATHWATCH DEAT- wait, I mean... CAI CAI CAIAPHUS CAIN HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
Fun fact for us Canadians in the wars. We were told to stop shooting pows, so we stopped taking them in general. We’d sneak slowly into trenches even if it took hours, killed all in our path, then stacked the dead in front of the sleeping enemies dorms forcing them to climb over their friends and comrades when they awoke. And what you stated isy 😂🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦🍁
To be fair to the astral claws, they were tasked with protecting this bit of space with definitely not enough ressources to do so and requested reinforcements multiple times. They took the matter into their own hands and built up their forces. Plus the rival sector, to which the tithe would have mostly gone to, was in direct conflict with them.
From flesh to living iron and may we return with our souls. Necrons the infinite and the divine has to be one of the best war hammer books and I’d love to hear more about orikan. 🇵🇸
I teared up when you said you can only temper steel through heat, my life's good, most things are going well and I'm trying so hard, but my luck is horrendous, I feel like a joke but I refuse to accept the hand the universe keeps dealing me. Thank you for your podcast, it's one of my favourite things in life right now.
This is how found you two, I can't think of a better episode I could find such a great channel. Love the content, hope to see it keep coming, I would love to support you guys on Patreon soon. I adore your content, please keep it coming. I can't wait to see more of what you two create, I am patiently awaiting every new release.
My own head cannon is that the Lamenters will be the ones to maybe find Rogal Dorn on some backwater planet after losing a battle. The survivors and dorn make it back to the Imperiun and dorn’s teachings make them see the grim logic behind things and with Dorn leading them (he would 100% rebuild his legion imo with his successor chapters + lamenters) he would do something cool, idk maybe get revenge on the iron cage
As a Canadian I can confidently say that we are very kind and loving, Till we hear the word war. I've every canadian the rage of our forefathers burns just as it did in world war 1
In fairness to the Lamenters on the whole Badab taxes thing - That was something of an overly reductive description of the situation. For more context, the Lamenters were one of several chapters assigned to keep this "independent resource extraction zone" safe from Orks, pirates, etc. It was also right next to the Eye of Terror's smaller but much older brother called the Maelstrom. Let me emphasize this part, this area was considered by the Administratum as independent and not fully part of the Imperium. The Astartes started to cut back on resource exports in order to build up PDF forces to help keep the sector safe. Technically speaking, this was completely within their rights as their mission statement said they were given authorization to use any and all resources of the area in any way they saw fit to keep it safe. So, as far as most Astartes chapters were concerned, the chapters of the Maelstrom Warders were 100% within their Emperor given privileges here.
Had a terrible breakup today and cried the most I have in years, but reading your title made me laugh. Can't wait to watch another of your videos and smile from you two Request: everyone's favorite goofy Necrons
I am of the belief that contrary, the Lamenters are incredibly lucky. They're a glass half empty or a glass half full kind of story. To me though, everything that has happened to them has happened to other chapters before and many, many, many other chapters have not made it out. Like the Fire Hawks (I think), they were lost in the warp. Were they ever found? Nope. At best they're now the Legion of the Damned, at worst they were literally torn apart by daemons. In the Badab War there were 4 chapters that partook on the side of the secessionists, one of them was forced into being renegades, the Mantis Warriors got a taste of the Carcharodons Astra, all 3 of the remaining went on penitent crusades. I definitely attribute most bad things happening to them as them just biting off more than they can chew. As a working theory, I think their uncharacteristic sorrow as marines has to do with this. Where as other Blood Angels successors have Sanguinius still with them, in the form of the Black Rage, they don't enjoy the same spiritual connection with their father as their brother chapters do. They've been showered off from that brotherhood in the blood and from their father and so because of that they're always melancholic and because of that they're left with the feeling of hopelessness Blood Angels had after the Black Rage subsided at the siege of Terra and now they're always out to prove something. Essentially a suicidal chapter with an extraordinary will and passion to endure
Love that my boys were able to get some love on one of my favorite channels. I'm still down for the murder clowns On a different note, the better question to ask Canada is what didnt you do.
@@Isaac-vd7vgDorn’s Fade Is Naturally Perfectly Smooth, Dense and Long It Doesn’t Grow Unless He Wills It to The Most Optimal, Defendable, Ergonomical and Utilizable of Haircuts More Than Comparable to That of The Golden Angel
So, a few things Canadians did during WW1. 1. Took no prisoners - during raids and attacks, they would kill soldiers that have surrendered or were already wounded. 2. Free Grenades - Canadian soldiers would toss food rations to the German trenches. The Germans who were starving at the time would grab and ask for more. The Canadians then toss grenades. 3. Gas. Lots of gas attacks. If Canadians could use it, they would use it as their first option. 4. Brutal Savages - The Germans were afraid of the Canadians and would prefer anyone else to fight. Something about them being very efficient in charging at machine gun entrenched positions with flamethrowers and grenades. Said machine gun position are likely not to live. And if they Canadians fail at the 1st charge, they send in the second to do the same.
The Lamenters got it raw, spikey, and unlubricated, solidly up into their four corners of contact, for at least a couple thousand years in the setting. It has often been heart-wrenching to read about their struggle. I am convinced that the fate of many chapters who we could view as Reasonable Marines is to get ultra-boned. I prefer it not to be the case and would ease up on them a bit if I were the Grand Panjandrum of Official Lore at GW, but I am just part of the audience.
The lamentors dis so much damage to the Minotaurs that when they went back to the imperium a lot of their brothers were forced to replace their gear and were made to come home in lamentors colors and heraldry
So, yes - WW1 Canadians were basically the nightlords. The Geneva convention was basically the world going "Canada is scary - please so i can deal with the trauma". No prisoners, experts in raiding trenches in the middle of the night, and several times we would toss food rations to build a clump of troops over weeks in the other trench just to have the last meal be a bag of nades and probably rusty nails. Then we invented the creeping barrage which must have sounded completely insane at the time. You get on Canada's bad side, the true brutality comes out - forged in a country that is commonly frozen or scorching hot, and the very environment itself wants you dead. When we are told to go to a war, that's what i imagine bleeds into every soldier - dirty tactics, survival instinct, and a morbid sense of humour that combines into true monsters. One of the main reasons i stay out of the military - I'm not ready to see that side of me yet
Hey guys, new to 40k. I stumbled across your shorts and got intrigued about the lore of the universe (no interest in playing 40k though). I've binged your videos (watched most multiple times) over the last couple of weeks. As for who to cover, the answer is simple. You've got to return to the Orks. WAAAGH!!!
Give me the Trazyn episode… I mean Necron characters, also I would love to see you guys talk about Oltyx and the Ithakas dynasty specifically. Great video as always
Personal theory- The lamenters *are* in fact supernaturally unlucky. The Emperor takes their luck, and gives it to others, not because he hates them, but because he knows they're the only ones with the strength of character to take it and stay loyal.
Literally the embodiment of 'God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers.'
aphfriel strain abhumans share the exact same trait due to genetic modifications on them
as well meaning it might be a gene like blanks and psykers
All their luck goes to ciaphas cain.
The lamenters feel like they were written by someone who has known peace and has also had it ripped violently from them repeatedly every time they got close to it again
That's why they're my dudes 🤷
You know what? I dare the people behind Warhammer to give the Lamenters a winning streak. They need it.
The suspense would be so powerful
Just give them 1 (one, uno) win. At least a glimpse of light, other chapters get wins all the time... just give them ONE....
@@JohnSmith-ez7ip I’d say the contrast paint range was a win. Much easier to rebuild if it doesn’t suck to paint 😂
the biggest win Lamenters get is the fact that they wont ever actually disappear, they are always going to be alive to suffer. yay...................................
but seriously name another faction that surrendered in m40 and it ended up with not total destruction.
Nah, if they're gonna give them a break it needs to be unintentionally funny. Like the possibility they might turn to Chaos and the 4 Ruinious Powers are like "Oh no, no, no no... Hell no." and basically give the Lementers "Good Luck" by just tripping up their own plans and just feeding them wins...
All the while Big E just looks on confused at just what the hell is happening.
Vulkan: "My nephews need me. They shall be hugged, one lamenting cinamon roll of an astartes at a time."
*_Luckily,_* that won't take too long.
@@obergfamily9049 Hurtfull. True and funny. Still ouch xD
We must also acknowledge those hugged will most likely have their spine broken
"Things only got worse for the Lamentars" thats it, thats the whole episode.
I'm not even a huge Blood Angels fan, but the Lamentors? If I could send them a care package I would. A care package filled with chocolate, coffee, band-aids and the latest boltgun ammo that has the name of every Minotaur carved into it.
I agree, fuck the minotaurs... they're defo sons of perty the way they act
Knowing their luck those ammo probably self-combust and disabled the ship Geller field in the middle of the warp.
@@usernamealreadytaken9330sent the lementers into the future to later die while guarding the retreat of G-man and the lion.
To all fellow lamenters get some rest, I've been begging for this video I just got home from my grandfather's funeral to see you added this thank you guys truly
I am truly sorry for your loss. Hope you can find some enjoyment
I think you just got lamenters luck that day.
@@ATart6 more like the whole week he died on 9/11
He's with the Emperor now.
I vote for orks
They are the epitome of ‘The horrors persist, but so do I’.
Someone once pointed something put to me about them. They seem like they're horrifyingly cursed with bad luck. But for the people who they rescue its almost like god reached out and rescued them. Its almost like the luck of the lamenters has been weaponized to protect the people behind them.
Well no their not the first super soldier project of the mechanicus to have this bad luck. The Afriel strain actually have even worse luck despite being clones of the greatest human heroes of the imperium
@@jamesfreeman3617Fuck. Thank you for this comment, I haven’t heard of them, but that makes so much sense.
As what Hero in human history didn’t have extremely horrible luck coming across insane situations.
So that’s just awesome ~
@@jamesfreeman3617cloning has an odd effect on the soul that inhabits the mortal body.
Holy shit, they were already my favorite Chapter, but now there's a power gap between them and whoever's next.
@@jamesfreeman3617 Prolly Snitchtitz' warp fuckery
I feel like Lamenters at some point started using the first half of their warcry (so „for those we cherish“) as a mantra to get through all the bs thrown at them.
For those we cherish, we die in glory!
What if the Lamenters find Vulcan? I'd feel like he'd vibe with them.
He would give them the hugs they deserve and desperately need
The world's best hug since rogal
Group hug and fireside story time with s'mores
That would require the Lamenters to have _good_ luck.
@@LexYeenor standard lamenters luck if they found Vulcan infused with orc energies....
4:17 They Traded Some of The Sanguine Rage for More of The Sanguine Depression
Worth It
*Sometimes*
There's always the saying "no one is truly good in 40k". They're the exception.
Its a meme, there are lots of people like lamenters in 40k
Salamanders and maybe another but that’s it in 40k
One of my favorite Lamenter moments is the time they had to solo a Space Hulk that just by going nearby it drove people, astartes, literally anyone absolutely off the walls. The only chapter that was immune was the Lamenters and ultimately they alone were able to destroy this Space Hulk, but an Inquisitor then accused them of heresy for not destroying a massive space hulk that drove half a planet mad fast enough... The Badab story is a wild one if I've ever seen... I'll never forget when a sun was used to break a space siege fun times...
Yeah, a space hulk that drove people insane with a massive terror field and the Lamenters can endure because they are so beaten down already.
And they did everything against the hulk. While others only used longest range space weapons, because anything else would risk them going insane.
The Lamenters charged the whole thing, send all the boarding parties they could to rip up generators and whatever they could find, *while* their ships blasted the hulk with every weapon available.
So while their own people were inside they still shot everything at it, just so they could do the most damage.
The Lamenters are so extremely competent, because they can still win despite everything.
Please tell me that at least the Inquisitor's claims were disregarded. There is no way that the Lamenters would get that level of bullshit, right?
@@kieranadamson3224 He was and I quote, escorted to an airlock where he was promptly thrown through the vacuum of space to his ship. Or at least some varient of this by the Astral Claws who the inquisitor told them they would be reporting this once he returned to Terra.
@@gruntmasterbroadcast good to hear, at least the Astartes won't let just anybody be shitty to their own.
@@kieranadamson3224 The Lamenters managed to make the space hulk leave realspace (it was unmanned yet still approaching a world so maybe just malicious warp fuckery)
Everybody who survived gathered.
Then the inquisitors who were there chastised the Lamenters and essentially told them they didn’t do enough. Basically instead of „Thx for stopping this getting even worse“ they said „Fuck you, your best was not good enough by a planet width. You are lucky you don’t get punished for incompetence.“
Then they left. Just another spit into the Lamenters‘ face and just another reason why they stuck with the Astral Claws who actually treated them like equals.
absolutely love to see my favorite faction covered
FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY!
As someone who struggles with depression for decades, this makes me "happy" 😅
If I was a Space Marine I’d be a Lamenter.
In the book Dante it is said that the Lamenters replied to the call saying they where rebuilding the chapter after everything that has happened. To which Dante was like that is unstable and not surprising, and another was like do we really even want them here to help us…. That is if I recall that part of the book correctly. It’s been just over a month or so. Dam good book by the way.
Pretty sure the only reason the Blood Angels beat Leviathan at Baal is because the Lamenters were smart enough to skip that fight.
Time to support my favorite sassy Egyptian terminators, let's go NECRONS!
Didn't they do necrons already?
@@theblackraven02they did, but the characters are the next topic
Love me some robot skeletons!
Glory to the murder bots
Nekron leaders is a dope topic!
holy hell, your execution/delivery on the canada joke is just ... chef's kiss beautiful. haven't laughed that hard in a long time
im torn between harlequinns and orks, but as an artist gotta have faith in that sweet sweet colour theory, WAAAAAAGH
Man, I want to hug these guys. They suffered so much and one of the most admirable Chapters I've ever heard. They truly deserve happiness.
The Rememberancer did a great job with some audio shorts on the Lamenters. Warhammer+ should definitely do a series on them to showcase the grimdark of the universe as well as show that not even the humans are the”good guys” of the setting.
Imperium is definitively NOT the good one in W40K 😅
They are racist to the extrem, close-minded as fuck, ruthless and callous to their own people and even worst to other. They are tyran, and they are ineffective and wasteful...
Imperium is trash, and evil dude 😂
The few humans who are not under the Imperium though ? Maybe some are OK. The one not under Chaos of course 🙄
I feel for the lamenters and how unlucky they are. I am one of those people with the worst luck around and I also understand that through it the only thing I want is to try an brighten other peoples day with a smile or a joke or even a conversation and sometimes it's hard but we can't give up. Keep spreading Joy everyone
As someone who also suffers from chronic un-luck, i sympathize. Im a combat veteran as well and lets just say my luck was just as bad back then lol.
For Me, The Lamenters embody a few different concepts, but the ones on the forefront are Optimism, Emotional Intelligence, and a simultaneous profoundly deep relationship with Grief & Hope.
Idk, Reading what I could of them, and listening to Vox in The Void's narrations of fanmade stories for them, I fell in love quickly. The duality of a borderlining naive hopefulness and a remarkably mature handle on their emotions just leads to a wonderful character design.
So happy to see this video.
I'm really glad the Lamenters are here because even know they are at the lowest point they still fight on for those they care about and and staying true to who they are. it's something I've really found inspiring and helpful when dealing with my own depression/mental health. Thankyou guys for covering them!
So, fun fact, there is a Blood Angel successor that is able cure those Battle Brother afflicted with the Black Rage, and that is the Angels Sanguine, and they use this pedestal called the "Tablet of Lestrallio".
I believe the chapter you’re talking about is the Blood ravens. (I could be wrong, it’s been a minute since I read about them)
But, that “cure” isn’t a cure. It’s a lie & a trap under the guise of a contract. One of their old chapter masters mistakenly (it really was) made a deal with what he thought was an angel of sanguinius but it was really Kairos Fateweaver. Ultimately the deal was that, the blood ravens wouldn’t fall for the black rage (that was the “cure”), but if one, just one, ever did, the blood ravens chapter would be damned & under the control of tzeentch forever. They never really mentioned why tzeentch wants that particular chapter (maybe it’s their name) but…I don’t think we need a proper reason for why chaos in general wants something. It’s chaos after all.
@@AlextheGreat647 I think you are talking about Blood Drinkers.Blood Ravens’s origins are unknown and they are very heavily trying to find anything about it.Some Blood Drinker battle brothers find a figure they think sanguinius and he says “Drinking Blood slurp slurp.Black Rage bye bye ”.But it is actually a daemon trying to scam them and he oftenly comes back and offers a place in chaos.
War for Badab was a pretty big deal. And deserves its own episode.
“For those we cherish. We die in Glory!”
30 minutes in and in my opinion, the Lamenters are not simply "Sad" or even "Died in a losing battle."
They are the Peter Parker of Games Workshop and some executive specifically made it a policy of "You see these guys? They MUST suffer."
Would absolutely adore a heroes of the imperious episode from you two
I think these guys and the salamanders might get along if they end up having enough numbers before a get together. I mean the one group with the Primark most likely the hug anyone with depression it's the most likely to wave off the bad luck.
"Make your voices heard."
NOBODY'S LOUDER THAN US ORKS! WAAAGH!!!
ORKS! ORKS! ORKS! 'ERE WE GO! ERE WE GO! ERE WE GO!
DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
LEZZ GO BOIIISS! SCOR' SUM FOOKIN' GOALS!!!
ERE WE GO, ERE WE GO, ERE WE GO!
WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
Honestly I’d love to see even a short story where some other chapter is fighting alongside the lamenters and it’s just brutal fighting and they’re just going “emperor what did we do to deserve this” and then one of the lamenters comes by and is thanking the emperor for an easier mission for once😂
Alpha Legion! Hydra Dominatus!
-I am Alpharius and I approve of this message
Lamenters, the only Chapter that the Alpha Legion will not infiltrate.
Alpharius
Yes, Alpharius.
Your next mission is to infiltrate the Lamenters.
"... " Take bolter, shoot himself in the head.
I can understand the reaction
@@painlord2k when they were talking about the Lamenters finally making a friend, I was waiting for Isyander to drop the bomb that the only friend they ever made was Alpha Legion and now they look super heretical.
Canadian here! My great grandpa fought in WW1 he was an incredibly hard man. But… he was also the kindest in the family.
So he carried a duality that was incredible.
It always makes me sadge when the astral claws get painted as monsters =((
They had to do the impossible for the thankless and they managed.
Even followed the rules by doing a lawfull succession. And got hounded for it. Just to make an example.
There was a clear turning point where they went they skewed go chaos after being pushed there.
"Who would do such a thing" meme personified for a glorious chapter.
22:25 At one point in WW2, the entire Canadian Army went Inglorious Basterds and decided they weren't taking SS prisoners anymore after some SS executed some Canadian POWs.
DEATHWATCH DEATHWATCH DEAT- wait, I mean...
CAI CAI CAIAPHUS CAIN HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
Gotta vote for my first 40k army and say Necrons. I would love to hear you guys cover them.
Fun fact for us Canadians in the wars. We were told to stop shooting pows, so we stopped taking them in general. We’d sneak slowly into trenches even if it took hours, killed all in our path, then stacked the dead in front of the sleeping enemies dorms forcing them to climb over their friends and comrades when they awoke. And what you stated isy 😂🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦🍁
This is probably the most Warhammer 40k humanity has gotton besides the god damn holocaust.
"Do you know what that word means... Lament. Means to mourn, to Regret, to Remember. We Lamented, I Lament"
To be fair to the astral claws, they were tasked with protecting this bit of space with definitely not enough ressources to do so and requested reinforcements multiple times. They took the matter into their own hands and built up their forces. Plus the rival sector, to which the tithe would have mostly gone to, was in direct conflict with them.
Maybe they got "lucky" and Trazyn stole them from the Tyranids.
Ah the Lamenters.
The Spider-Man of the 40k universe
From flesh to living iron and may we return with our souls. Necrons the infinite and the divine has to be one of the best war hammer books and I’d love to hear more about orikan. 🇵🇸
Im so happy that the space sharks are mentioned literally the most scary and cool chapter they are what the nightlords were supposed to be
When you were talking about the odds of becoming a spacemarine, I knew I was that guy....
to be chosen as a lamenter.
With my luck, I'd be joining you there, Brother
Fun fact, Canadians are actually the reason for the Geneva conventions
Surprised we got Lamenters instead of Sanguinius, though it's definitely a pleasant one.
Canada's motto in WW1 was "take no prisoners and kill the wounded"
And that's the dumbed down version lol
I teared up when you said you can only temper steel through heat, my life's good, most things are going well and I'm trying so hard, but my luck is horrendous, I feel like a joke but I refuse to accept the hand the universe keeps dealing me. Thank you for your podcast, it's one of my favourite things in life right now.
This is how found you two, I can't think of a better episode I could find such a great channel. Love the content, hope to see it keep coming, I would love to support you guys on Patreon soon. I adore your content, please keep it coming. I can't wait to see more of what you two create, I am patiently awaiting every new release.
"There is no sadness in the Imperium."
Happiness Patrol - Inquisitorial branch.
My own head cannon is that the Lamenters will be the ones to maybe find Rogal Dorn on some backwater planet after losing a battle. The survivors and dorn make it back to the Imperiun and dorn’s teachings make them see the grim logic behind things and with Dorn leading them (he would 100% rebuild his legion imo with his successor chapters + lamenters) he would do something cool, idk maybe get revenge on the iron cage
I GET TO START MY WORK WEEK OFF WITH A LAMENTERS EPISODE! This is soooo dope! Thank you guys for the time you take for these awsome deep dives
ORK BOIS NEXT
"For those we cherish, we die in glory"
Is such a metal warcry, especially when you consider that it basicly means "I know you gonna beat my ass"
I vote for the Necrons! I want an episode on Trazyn.
Time to support my favorite Mechanized Legion, GO FORTH, NECRONS!
As a Canadian I can confidently say that we are very kind and loving, Till we hear the word war. I've every canadian the rage of our forefathers burns just as it did in world war 1
In fairness to the Lamenters on the whole Badab taxes thing - That was something of an overly reductive description of the situation. For more context, the Lamenters were one of several chapters assigned to keep this "independent resource extraction zone" safe from Orks, pirates, etc. It was also right next to the Eye of Terror's smaller but much older brother called the Maelstrom. Let me emphasize this part, this area was considered by the Administratum as independent and not fully part of the Imperium. The Astartes started to cut back on resource exports in order to build up PDF forces to help keep the sector safe.
Technically speaking, this was completely within their rights as their mission statement said they were given authorization to use any and all resources of the area in any way they saw fit to keep it safe. So, as far as most Astartes chapters were concerned, the chapters of the Maelstrom Warders were 100% within their Emperor given privileges here.
I feel like im the only one out here for harlequins. I know koda would love seeing all the clussy fanart
I really love your content! I am always hoping that the episodes won't end.
Had a terrible breakup today and cried the most I have in years, but reading your title made me laugh. Can't wait to watch another of your videos and smile from you two
Request: everyone's favorite goofy Necrons
I'm sorry and understand that feeling. I pray you find the one you need.
I am of the belief that contrary, the Lamenters are incredibly lucky. They're a glass half empty or a glass half full kind of story.
To me though, everything that has happened to them has happened to other chapters before and many, many, many other chapters have not made it out. Like the Fire Hawks (I think), they were lost in the warp. Were they ever found? Nope. At best they're now the Legion of the Damned, at worst they were literally torn apart by daemons. In the Badab War there were 4 chapters that partook on the side of the secessionists, one of them was forced into being renegades, the Mantis Warriors got a taste of the Carcharodons Astra, all 3 of the remaining went on penitent crusades. I definitely attribute most bad things happening to them as them just biting off more than they can chew.
As a working theory, I think their uncharacteristic sorrow as marines has to do with this. Where as other Blood Angels successors have Sanguinius still with them, in the form of the Black Rage, they don't enjoy the same spiritual connection with their father as their brother chapters do. They've been showered off from that brotherhood in the blood and from their father and so because of that they're always melancholic and because of that they're left with the feeling of hopelessness Blood Angels had after the Black Rage subsided at the siege of Terra and now they're always out to prove something. Essentially a suicidal chapter with an extraordinary will and passion to endure
Are we going to get an episode on malcador the sigillite?
Indeed
Canada is like the camp mum in a survival crafting game. Sure they seem nice and quaint, but you raid the wrong camp and the apron is getting dirty
Heroes! I'd love to see a video on Ciaphus, but if he has to be a part of a larger video, so be it.
Great episode and I'm hoping the next is for the good Ole Necrons
I would love to see more about commissar Cain on TH-cam. Most just gives him a gouffy vibe.
Love that my boys were able to get some love on one of my favorite channels. I'm still down for the murder clowns
On a different note, the better question to ask Canada is what didnt you do.
Day 22 of fortifying for the imperial fists and we stand with our fellow boys in yellow
Got to have the most fortified haircut
@@Isaac-vd7vgDorn’s Fade Is Naturally Perfectly Smooth, Dense and Long
It Doesn’t Grow Unless He Wills It to
The Most Optimal, Defendable, Ergonomical and Utilizable of Haircuts
More Than Comparable to That of The Golden Angel
Need more iron warriors
Would be cool to see
So, a few things Canadians did during WW1.
1. Took no prisoners - during raids and attacks, they would kill soldiers that have surrendered or were already wounded.
2. Free Grenades - Canadian soldiers would toss food rations to the German trenches. The Germans who were starving at the time would grab and ask for more. The Canadians then toss grenades.
3. Gas. Lots of gas attacks. If Canadians could use it, they would use it as their first option.
4. Brutal Savages - The Germans were afraid of the Canadians and would prefer anyone else to fight. Something about them being very efficient in charging at machine gun entrenched positions with flamethrowers and grenades. Said machine gun position are likely not to live. And if they Canadians fail at the 1st charge, they send in the second to do the same.
I wonder if the Lamenters were just mismanaged. They hold a lot in common with salamanders. Idk why Salamanders didn’t just adopt them
"When we hit 100k, Demunculaba!"
Sweats in 96k 😮
"For those we cherish, we die in glory!" ❤🏁
In the grim dark of the 40th milenium, where there is only war, it's nice to have some good guys. Even if they get mowed down in swaths.
Heroes the imperium for me. I want to hear the silliest actions of ciphas cain
You'd think the Salamanders would vibe with them because of how far they went to protect civies. That's the Salamanders bread and butter y'know
*They might have bad luck, but they are hardcore survivors.*
The Lamenters got it raw, spikey, and unlubricated, solidly up into their four corners of contact, for at least a couple thousand years in the setting. It has often been heart-wrenching to read about their struggle.
I am convinced that the fate of many chapters who we could view as Reasonable Marines is to get ultra-boned. I prefer it not to be the case and would ease up on them a bit if I were the Grand Panjandrum of Official Lore at GW, but I am just part of the audience.
As much i want a harlequinns ep. Its ORKS ALL THE WAY
The lamentors dis so much damage to the Minotaurs that when they went back to the imperium a lot of their brothers were forced to replace their gear and were made to come home in lamentors colors and heraldry
Heroes! Sly Marbo doesn’t sleep, he waits.
One time Sly Marbo threw a grenade, killed 20 orks, and then the grenade exploded
Isyander is an incredible storyteller. This is my favorite lore channel now
My vote is in for Necrons all the way.
A dedicated Lamenters book would have to have a foreward mentioning the suicide prevention hotline
So, yes - WW1 Canadians were basically the nightlords. The Geneva convention was basically the world going "Canada is scary - please so i can deal with the trauma".
No prisoners, experts in raiding trenches in the middle of the night, and several times we would toss food rations to build a clump of troops over weeks in the other trench just to have the last meal be a bag of nades and probably rusty nails. Then we invented the creeping barrage which must have sounded completely insane at the time.
You get on Canada's bad side, the true brutality comes out - forged in a country that is commonly frozen or scorching hot, and the very environment itself wants you dead. When we are told to go to a war, that's what i imagine bleeds into every soldier - dirty tactics, survival instinct, and a morbid sense of humour that combines into true monsters.
One of the main reasons i stay out of the military - I'm not ready to see that side of me yet
I love this podcast so much it helps me learn more about this violently beautiful universe, thanks for showing the beauty of dispare
Day 20 of helping the Night Lords
An entire chapter of Kenny McCormicks... I feel like crying
Hell yeah, now I have lore to listen to while I journey to the center of the universe through marijuana
That makes two of us brotha
*plays traveling music*
Careful, don’t want to hit the warp while you’re that high 👀
Hey guys, new to 40k. I stumbled across your shorts and got intrigued about the lore of the universe (no interest in playing 40k though). I've binged your videos (watched most multiple times) over the last couple of weeks.
As for who to cover, the answer is simple. You've got to return to the Orks. WAAAGH!!!
YESSSSSSSSS... Still want my Minotaurs...
Oh, they get mentioned this episode...
Orks! You’re videos rock! Love all your hard work. You make the lore a lot more fun, especially when a lot of it shouldn’t be haha
For future polls: Imperial Fists and its successor chapters: Black Templars & Crimson Fists. Plus more, there are so many.
I would love to see more of our wonderful manifesting greenskins, the orks. FOR THE WAAAAGH!!!!
WAAAGH!!!
Green iz da best
Give me the Trazyn episode… I mean Necron characters, also I would love to see you guys talk about Oltyx and the Ithakas dynasty specifically. Great video as always
Will the ‘Ard boy Orks please stand up?!
We Ork whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
WAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH youz my boiz now wez gonna help warboss Gutrecka
WAAAAGH
WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHJJJJ!
More dakka for da boss
Necrons all the way. It'll be fantastic to watch Isyander geek out about Trazyn's pokeball pocket universes
So, the Salamanders are the beloved good guys, and the Lamenters are abandoned good guys?
Pretty much