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Legacy lenses on EOS R: Canon FD 50mm f/1.2 'L' lens review with samples
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remember when FD lenses were dirt cheap before mirrorless age
Nevermind that FD lenses are grossly overrated in terms of optical performance. Pentax, Minolta, Olympus, all had better optics.
@@ErebosGR Tell that to 85mm 1,2f FD...
@@caldera878 Can relate, 50mm f1.8 II is completely broke after an unfortunate fall from less than 30cm. Camera is completely safe tho.
Not only FD lenses but most film SLR lenses were obsolete and worthless before mirrorless. Many see an end through years of neglect, thrown away, destroyed by haze, fungus, other optical or mechanical problems. Besides Nikon's F mount lenses, decent condition legacy SLR lenses are fewer in between, and the good ones left are mostly worth more now then in the past.
@@ErebosGR the 100mm f/2 nFD is very strong in terms of performance, strongest I seen compared to other film lenses.
This lens has waaay more character than the new 1.2 lenses!!!
Really enjoy these legacy lens reviews, Chris. Hope to see more! God bless.
The FD lenses were ones of the pinnacle lenses back in the day. Just remember 180mm 1.8f... 85mm 1.2f FD is still regarded as one of the best 85mm lenses even to todays standards. Same goes for 135mm 2f. 55mm 1,2f nFD is very sharp and optically well made lens, one of the best in the vintage class...
I have the canon FL 50mm f/1.8 lens from 1966 and it looks stunning on Canon R cameras. I was shocked how good the images look.
I've been having a grand time using these vintage 50mm lenses with a Techart-Pro adapter. I finally managed to get a used Techart for around $150 (What i consider a reasonable price) and it can focus nearly as fast as a standard FE lens. Really enjoy using fast AF on lenses from the 1960s
I quiet enjoy the little jokes you Did on your reviews.. I am following you for years (since 2014 probably) before I even come to the UK, and you never fail to deliver a solid review..
Keep up :)
Dude.. I remember seeing your first video around 10-11 years ago xD your voice never aged lol
I love seeing how older lenses perform from a modern perspective. There's some that still offer a great value, some that have been completely eclipsed, and some that give a look that's just unlike anything modern.
Is there one in particular you know of that "give a look that's just unlike anything modern?". I'd really like to buy one.
@@georgiaboy2023 Helios 44-2
@@georgiaboy2023 Try the FD 135mm f2.
YEEES!!!! Thanks so much Since old lenses works so well now on mirrorless cameras having up to date reviews is sooooooooo helpful :) thanks so much man :)
600 used ... a samyang xp is maybe the better choice. Since i have seen these for 800€ the 200 euro more are worth it imo
Just bought this lens and am excited to try it out (when I get the time). Got a bit nervous though, when the aperture ring stopped between f1.2 and 1.4 but judging from this excellent video that is what it's supposed to do. Phew!
I have the SSC 1.2 version of this lens and it is great! Got mine for around $130
I've got a few of these at different focal lengths and they're my favourites.
I never seem to get bad video with them, they always look so organically detailed.
A great review, as usual, and a walk down memory lane.
I got a job as a newspaper photographer after graduating from High School. The FD 50mm f1.2L, FD 135mm f3.5, and Canon FTb were never more than a few steps away for many years. The 135mm got rescued by police divers after it got dropped into Lake Washington during a Hydroplane Race. Years later, they, An F-1 and a few more pieces added over the years were all sold off to a gentleman in the Ukraine. Sometimes I miss film .., but not very often.
Cool review! In a similar vein, I'd love to see you review the Pentax K SMC 50mm f1.4. I think I got mine for
That is one of the most beautiful flares I have ever seen.
Night time images looked gorgeous, looks like Chris was inspired by this little lens :]
I reckon that people who get this sort of lenses, simply want a genuine vintage feel in their captures. And notice the build quality in that era? Dear me, amazing. My grandfather had a few of these lenses but in 2000 from his time as photographer. Sadly he sold them all in that time, otherwise I would be very happy now 😊
I recently put a Canon FD 28mm f2.8 on my Canon R6 and was super impressed with the look. Exciting to see the full potential of FD glass after years of using it on m43 Panasonic cameras.
look how cute that thing is. absolutely lovely
LMFAO!!!! He said "mechanical baggage"!!!!! I literally laughed out loud!!!!
If anybody is looking for 50mm canon lenses, you'll find almost as good of quality if you get an FD 50mm 1.4 lens, for much much lower of a cost
I compared 1.4 new FD whit CZJ 50mm f/1.8 (1965) and CZJ are sharper whit more interesting bokeh
Jakub Strumiłło the only CZJ I tried fell apart. A DDR made lens that haad nothing to do with Carl Zeiss except it was made in a former Zeiss factory seized by the Russians.
I agree. I currently own an FD 50mm f/1.8 S.C. (also made a small review about it on my channel) and FDn 50mm f/1.4 (review coming up) and both of them seem to offer much better price to performance ratio than the f/1.2 L.
You will find much better sharpness with FDn 50/1.4. In bokeh quality though 50/1.4 is clearly behind both FDn 50/1.2 and 50/1.2 L.
I’d look at lens construction before the f value if it’s only by 0.2 stop value slower. IQ is far more important than bokeh for me. As long as there’s bokeh majority of people appreciate the image.
I'm loving the attention you are putting into vintage glass! I just bought some old Pentax lenses (easly adaptable to EOS DSLRs, APS-C at least) and I'm surprised by it's quality (the 35mm f2, specially). The lack of telecentric design in older lenses is becoming more important over time, apparently, since the ramping up of megapixel count in modern sensors.
As always, great review! You're the best lens reviewer that I've ever seen.
I have this lens with an fd adapter for my sony a7ii. It's awesome and a lot of fun to shoot with
Great review as always Chris and good to see how it fairs on the Digital R.
I am getting into film photography in a big way and putting these on a 1980's body loaded with Ilford Delta is giving wonderful 80's "style and feel" photographs that make the easy to use R and R6...... boring :-)
It is great to be able to offer a so called vintage option to portrait clients along side the clinically clean digital.
Clients are intrigued at first & then liking the "softer" film options as an alternative, especially the black and white.
Any hoos I wish you well and keep up the good work sir.
I'm buying this and an AE-1
I was just shopping for this lens for my M50! Thanks again Chris.
thanks for the review.Answered my question on a adapter fd to Eos-R.The punch in focus works really well with the Canon mirrorless cameras and I would love to have adapters for my manual focus Canon and Nikon and Contax lens's.
Sorry I use my Canon FD Lenses with the ( ZYWKKOR FD-EOS made in Japan ) it works great to adapt to my camera Canon EOS 600D/T3i and Canon EOS 800D/T7i the lens I use and have are Canon FD 50mm F1.8 S.C. // Canon FD 100mm F2.8 S.S.C. // Canon FD 200mm F2.8 S.S.C. // Conon Zoom FD 100-300mm F5.6 Macro // Last one is a Sigma 18mm F3.5 For Canon FD Hope this help you I'm a big fan of your videos keep up the great work. Dan from Canada.
I would like to see you do a pov on a vintage Canon at-1 camera
I have a brand new, in the box of this lens. I have the standard 50mm Canon f1.2 so I have been using that on my Canon F1 New. If you are a studio looking for this lens, I may be willing to part with it for the right price. New means it doesn't have 40 years of wear and dust.
Hey Chris, I need your expertise on FD lenses. Remember there were a few lenses that were stamped "Aspherical" on the front of the lens generally fetching a premium price, & in some instances higher then an "L" variant (fd 50 1.2 L & fd 55 1.2 Aspherical) as an example. Is the 50 1.2 L the same as the 55 1.2 Aspherical, or does the Aspherical have better glass than the L counter part?
Thanks!
Would be interested to see how these perform on apsc
I don't have a name, not so bad if you use a speedbooster
"@f1.2 comma smearing on bright point of light is almost as strong as Margaret Thatcher's approach to trade unions"
Ray gun flaring
I’ve used FD lenses on my 6D and my 1D Mark IV with an adapter from eBay with no issues, not sure why people say you cant
Chris, where did you get your FD:RF adapter? Are you happy with it? Would you recommend it? Thanks.
Hi Christopher--I'm not sure if you reply to comments on older videos, but I found this video to be very interesting! I was wondering if you might do reviews on other Canon FD lenses on their mirrorless bodies? Thanks--I enjoy your videos very much!
Great review as always! Have you ever tested the SMC Pentax 50mm f1.2 K mount? It would be really interesting...
I wonder what the difference between the L and non-L version really is optically?
You can use a FD lens on a Canon DSLR with the FD to EF adapter. I have one and it works fine, just manual focus.
I was just looking at my copy of the FD 50mm 1.4:1 with a digital camera!
There are actually FD to EF adaptors out there but you have two options. Either get one without any optical elements and loose focus at infinity or closer, or get one with optical elements and retain focus at infinity but loose some T stops and maybe some sharpness as well.
There edmika lens conversion kits that you can buy and convert some of those lenses to EF mount.
Even Canon themselves doesn't want capability with FD lenses on EF mount bodies because FD lenses were never a real system to take on Nikon's F mount/lenses which were used by professionals. Canon ditch FD mount and basically obsolete them and the same time screwed up FD users.
@@caldera878 What do you mean not wanting EF compatibility? FYI the FD system one of the largest full manual lens system. Canon even provided adaptors back when they made the EF system and FD cameras were in production well into 1993. The EF transition was to design a fully electronic system because autofocus became the next big thing for cameras. Nikon for years had to build much larger and bulkier bodies to fit AF motors in them and that is no match to Canon's USM.
Will you ever review lenses with Contax/Yashica mount? Some of them really made history
What lenses? I love testing out vintage lenses on modern bodies.
@@laythasthepaladin My favourite one is the 2.8/28 Zeiss Distagon, it's super sharp even on APSC, it has a lovely build quality, the bokeh is super smooth and it can focus really close (25cm) then there's the 1.4/85 Zeiss Planar, the 2/135 Zeiss Planar, or if you want cheaper lenses there's the 2.8/135 Zeiss Sonnar and the 1.7/50 Zeiss Planar, this last one is basically identical to Canon's nifty fifty in terms of image quality but it has better build quality
That 50mm f/1.2 L series lens is one of the sharpest lenses in the world. That and the Nikon 58mm f/1.2 “Noct Nikkor. These lenses are fully the equal of Leica R and M light giants. The Noct Nikkor also costs as much as its Leica equivalents. I know because have both the Noct Nikkor that I bought in the 70’s when it was almost affordable and the Canon 1.2 L 50mm. I also shoot with Leica R and M cameras and lenses. Over the years I’ve accumulated a not so small fortune in equipment. 45 years to be exact.
Hi Chris, for a Canon R, which of the two lenses you would consider best for all around photography - 35mm or 50mm? Im switching from a 24-105 just for the sake of a much better diafragm.
Was literally just researching the different FD fifties this morning for my AE1, talk about timing.
Interesting how small and light lenses used to be despite the big aperture, and even metal construction. I can see why people buy these lenses just to get the character that is unlike anything we see in modern lenses that are ultra clean. And manual focus is probably not a problem for more serious "amateur" film makers as they probably aim to mimic Hollywood films that don't use AF.
It would be nice to see some photos of the image quality compared to a modern lens, not pixel peeped but overall image quality.
What about a canon fd 50mm f1.4 or 1.8 version? Are they better? Do they have less problems?
Chris, I want to know whether FD lenses can be used on crop-sensor Canon EOS camera. I have no problem at all with manual focus and control. I understand that an adapter shall be needed.
The price has gone up a lot since then
a problem? that lens flare is amazing
i have konica hexanon ar 57mm F1.2 lens i really want to use without crop factor.
which camera can i use without spending too much?.
eos rp ?
I already find almost new set of new FD lenses :) 50mm, 28mm and 100-300mm all ,,new FD" in pristine condtions i love them. Even if Zeiss Jena produce more interesting background
@Chris : why do you say it couldn't be adapted onto a dSLR : Canon used to sell an adapter to mount FD lenses on EOS cameras, back in the film days. It wouldn't be compatible ?
And thanks for these old glass reviews, I find this very interesting too 🙂
Hi there !
Thanks for your great review. Does the focus guide of Canon eos R work with this lens as well as other vintage manual focus lenses ?
Could you have a review this feature to show how the focus guide feature work with manual. Is it really helpful. Thanks
I was using this lens for around 6 years either in analog AE1 canon or my old sony nex 3. by the time performance on my analog camera back in the day was bloody pleasant but It couldn't bring me the same experience in digital to compare with analog camera. I didnt use it in full frame digital camera bcs on that time there wasn't any full frame mirror-less camera in the market and the adapters from FD to DSLR had low quality optic.
Manual focus with this aperture, an hard game ! 😅
Why not break the habit of a lifetime and review the Nikon 50mm f/1.2 AIS manual focus lens by way of comparison. The Nikon is not the sharpest, especially wide open, but has pleasing character and is still popular for portraiture. The Nikon, like the Canon, can be easily and cheaply adapted to almost any mirrorless camera and unlike the Canon works great on some modern DSLRs.
I've got the 85 1.2 this one and the 28mm... next review ? :) I like them... basic, cheap (except the 85 1.2 but the 85 1.8 is not expensive) and overall pretty good.
Vert good lens. My friend has it at A7. Also FD 50 1.4 and FD 85 1.2 is very good.
You must try the sigma 105 macro os lens as I've looked for it and I couldn't find any usefull review of it.
Hi Chris, would you please review the
Tokina ATX-i 11-16mm F2.8 CF ?
Ps. It is the latest version of ATX PRO.
Also please mention adaptability on Fuji x mount.
How come it works on mirrorless but not DSLR cameras?
The flange distance, the EF bayonet is further away from the sensor than the original FD one, therefor if you found a way to mount it, you wouldn't be able to focus to infinity. some other vintage lenses work on DSLRs just fune (Leica R, old Nikon F and M42 glass is particulary easy, although the last one doesn't work on Nikon DSLRs, because of the flange distance.) Mirrorles cameras are better for adapting vintage glass, since the flange distance is small, so you can even adapt most rangefinder lenses.
Hi,
Is the manual focus peaking working with adapted lens?
Cheers!
What modern manual FF 50 do you like better
You had to bring the "Iron Lady" into the review.........lol
I have the 1.8 and 1.4 FD 50mm lenses. Not sure I could justify this one.
I wish we had as fast and small lenses today.
How difficult is it to nail focus using the adapter and the FD lenses with the EOS R. I'm thinking about investing in this camera. I have quite a few of the FD lenses. I would be a pretty motivating factor knowing I could use them again.
I just use magnification and it's not too hard
I have an old Minolta 58mm f/1.2 lens and its image quality is similarly poor. Still a fun lens, though.
Love Margaret!
WoW are you sure ? Rokkor 58mm 1.2 is considered as a king for mirrorless and especially GFX Systems …
And what about performance on apsc?
Just to be clear, that's an FD to R mount adapter and who is making the best ones right now?
Novoflex?
Great reviews for this and the 85 brother thanks so much very helpful
Come on Chris, please, make your awesome review of Fujifilm x100v!
Please review voigt 50mm f1.1 for leica M in eos R
When will you review Nikon noct 0.95 50 mm?
Sir i am using canon eos 80d with sigma 105 f1.4 art and cant get sharp picture. Does its happen due to crop sensor .
It should be very sharp. Either you're doing something wrong or there's a problem with your lens or camera
@@christopherfrost when i am using in live view picture are sharp but when i capture from viewfinder they are not sharp.
Would be interesting to see your take on Canon's 50mm f0.95 "Dream Lens"! Pretty had to obtain I'm sure, but legendary in it's quirkiness. =)
The advantage of old lenses are their character and relatively cheap prices. I see no sense in buying such an expensive old 50mm lens, because there are so many good and much cheaper ones around.
I think the kamlan 55 1.2 that u tested before is much sharper
I have it! I LOVE it! Fine Video! Thanks!
Lovely vintage glass but I find that they often have high levels of CA fringes. Still fun to use. Are you going to the NEC photo show next week? 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I was going to :-(
@@christopherfrost Yep, pity it's been postponed - see you in September. 😎😎😎
Dear Sir , I am a big fan of yours . I am looking for a budget zoom for M50, purpose: wildlife photography .. kindly advice which one I should go for ..
For wildlife I'd go with the Canon EF-M 55-200
Thank You Sir .. I will consider buying this lens you have mentioned.. one more thing , I have Speedbooster and 50mm prime , Do I need to buy sigma 56mm 1.4 as you consider this a shapest lens ? My main focus is only video.. I have 22mm pancake and 11-22mm also
Can you try this lens in a SONY mirrorless camera?
If you buy the right adaptor, you can
Now that you've added nikon to your arsenal I would suggest testing nikon 50mm 1.8 e-series. Last 50mm 1.8 that wasn't a plastic fantastic.
the e-series is cheap plastic, the auto, ai and ais is where its at
@@robertmathieson97 My all metal e-series lens disagrees with that.
@@JanneRanta I repair lenses and the E-series 50mm focusing helicoid (the important part) is half plastic and metal which doesn't hold up well and wobbles over time.
wow. i was thinking that this lens would be a good upgrade to my FD 50/1.4 but now i'm somewhat disappointed :/
50/1.4 has same sharpness if not better but without strange coma effects.
I just got the FD 50mm 1.4 and now I am jealous. ;-)
How would you compare it to the modern L USM 1.2?
The new L lens will be quite a bit better particularly in colours and contrast - check out my review of it
@@christopherfrost Will do, but another quick question first - I've read the L USM 1.2 is not as good as the Canon 50 mm 1.8 for night photography. Seems counterintuitive, but I've read it more than once, so wondering if you have an opinion on that.
I want this lens to put on my xt3 so bad
How come it wouldn’t work with a regular ef to fd adapter?
That’s how most FD lenses I have behave. The EF-FD adaptor I have has a glass element to correct for flange distance and it works fine albeit some distortion and contrast issues. I have a 50 f/1.4, 35 f/2.8, and a 135 f/2.8 which all focus to infinity fine. I’m just curious if I were to buy this lens, is there anything unique about it that my other lenses don’t possess that would prevent me using it on my ef camera?
Never why people want to use the awful FD mount lenses on the superior EF mount/lens. Canon ditched FD for a good reason in 1987 and made sure to limit capability as much as possible.
Having money to afford such ef lenses is usually the limiting factor amongst many amateur photographers
I see, whenever you said that I presumed you meant any adapter that had a glass element. Mine does so I was confused by what you meant. I understand now and I appreciate the insight.
"Character," is the only thing older lens have over the newer tec. advance lenses! I've yet to see a lens manufactured before the nineties that is better than its modern counterpart. They are often fun to shooting but in most cases poor in comparison to even the modern kit lenses.
Price/performance
No surprises here. A lot of old glass can't compare to modern glass, but they are fun and usually don't come with a crazy price. The best of the legacy glass can have reasonably sharp corners stopped down. My favorite 50s are the Super Takumars. Nice bokeh and color pop. Tried a Canon FD 50mm f1.8 recently on a 42mp sensor and it was okay, but not special like the Taks or SMC that followed.
FD lenses as a whole are typically overrated especially the overpriced FD L series.
at it again with the thatcher puns :)
So from what I can gather, essentially it's better than the Nikon equivalent until you get to f/2 and it costs twice as much.
I see them for over 1000 pounds on ebay now. What happened?
You should see what the FD 24mm f1.4 L now sells for.
When I saw the notification I was really excited thinking it was a Nikon review. When could we expect them to start coming out, and what's the first lens?
I'm currently working with the camera and getting a feel for it and a couple of lenses. Reviews should start coming in April (maybe even sooner)
I've been using some old medium format Pentax 645 lenses adapted to my EOS R. The larger image circle means that the sharpest portion of the lens is being used. I use a Fotodiox TLT ROKR adapter and also get some tilt and shift function. BTW, Margaret Thatcher was a god send during the cold war. I'd hate to see where Britain would be had she not been the rock she was.
I love my fd 1.4
I am pretty sure the copy of that lens was not right. I had a copy that had taken some hard beating and modifications BUT after a good service it was MUCH better than the one you have shown here. It is one of the perfectly usable F1.2 lenses from its time. The one you tested is unusable to me at F1.2 and that is on Canon sensor. I have used mine on Sony which is bad for most vintage lenses because of the fat glass in front of the sensor. You have to try another copy maybe.
www.flickr.com/photos/146303112@N03/albums/72157688919042513
Here I have some big size test shots from my copy. It was with scratches on the rear element because of EOS modification by the previous owner, some parts were not the original ones, ... it couldn't be worse.
Excellent images. Indeed When I see a vintage lens with that amount of CA it is nearly 100% damaged lens in some way. Good copy of those lenses are far better than the one in this review..
@@aceflibble The FDn 50 1.2 L has not other versions. It is what it is :). And age is rarely the problem, most of the time it is bad service during the years. If someone with no experience decides to "fix" something small it can be devastating in the end. Everything matters here. It can be even reverced rear element which was at first the case with my copy. The ex owner decided to assemble it back after a cleaning and the lens was unusable before F5.6. I took it to a cla master and he did what he could to fix the years of beating and modifications (it was converted to EOS in a bad way). Ths is what I can tell you based on my experience.
This copy of the lens was the best condition I could find, it was checked carefully and had absolutely 0% haze. You are seeing a reflection