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I was wrong about cheap vintage lenses. | Canon FD 50mm & 28mm with Lumix S5
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- #LumixS5 #VintageLens #CanonFD
Shopping for lenses can be an expensive endeavour. Which lens is best for portraits? What's the best budget lens? And if you're like me and you have an L mount camera such as the S5, S1, or S1H then you know that L mount lenses are very expensive right now. For a long time I thought vintage lenses were bad but I finally tried some Canon FD lenses and honestly they're really good. So if you need affordable prime lenses for your SONY A7sii or Canon camera. I think you should check these FD lenses out. They're the best affordable vintage lenses you can buy.
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00:00 - Intro
00:21 - History & Context
00:48 - Price & Features
01:33 - Video Samples
01:59 - Adapters
02:40 - 50mm & Samples
03:26 - 28mm & Samples
04:12 - FD For Other Cameras
04:44 - Street Portraits
06:00 - Portrait Slideshow
06:54 - Closing Thoughts
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Hi thank you for your video. I will be looking for these lenses for my Lumix S5. But, tell me, which adapter will go best with the lumix S5?
The link you put in the description contains several adapters. I do not know which one to choose.
Thanks
Careful it's rabbit hole you can't escape from. It always starts with FDs, then your hunting for Leica's and Contax Zeiss sooner than you think.
Zeiss looks really nice😆
Been there done that, now I own 24,28,50 mm fd lenses + Helios 44m
I’ve solved this problem, I wanted to get something way too nice for an AE-1, I was looking at an FD 85mm 1.2, which is my favorite lens for my actual camera I use for work. Found out for $30 I can get an EF mount film camera lol. Scratched that itch with the new lens on an old camera and stopped looking for expensive hobby glass haha
The winner is Pentax. Cheaper than Zeiss and often better quality. But I like Zeiss too. :-)
I remember when you refused to do A-roll, and now here we are, with a video almost devoid of b-roll. What a time to be alive.
its one or the other Aron I only have so much energy
I LOVE the focus throw on the old lenses. And now that most cameras these days have focus peaking it's a no brainer.
YES! and Lumix cameras have some of the best focus assist tools. I use the loupe to check focus on eyes to make sure.
Tracking things that move fast is a pain though. Or just people walking towards the camera.
The purple flare is the only reason I own this lens
when it shows up it's glorious
I like being wrong, I try to be wrong at least a few times a day so it feels there is some progression in character ;) ;) ;). Glad you're coming over to this side of things, your skills plus these elements could bring some inspired results for sure.
How did I miss this glory for so long!?
@@impatrickt It wasn't for lack of trying by a few of us. Now get a Super Multicoated Takumar and slap it on that thing.
@@ChrisJDavisorg the journey ends with FD
@@impatrickt Suuuure.
@@ChrisJDavisorg no seriously these are only to tide me over till I get the S primes from Lumix. then the fad will end.
Just got my S5 like 4 months ago and I need some options for my lens mount, AND I FINALLY HAVE ONE! THANKS MAN! Can't wait to try my FD Lenses straightaway!
So good for the S5.
My hot take on the FD series of lenses is that people should NOT adapt them for Canon's EF mount for the sole purpose of image degradation. In short, the FD lenses have a shorter flange distance than the standard lenses produced at the time, so to use them on EF mounted bodies, the adapters available have a piece of glass that is not held up to standard and will cause more chromatic aberrations and less sharpness all around.
However! The FD's and nFD's are and absolute unit when it comes to mirrorless cameras! The adapter may be a little more expensive, but it is 100% worth it to get the best image quality out of these lenses. Super glad you are enjoying them! Hopefully this helps people in their search for vintage glass!
I have one of those adapters with the glass, you're right. but when you use them on anything else that doesn't need that extra glass adapter they're great!
So what FD adapter you suggest to L-mount? Thx.
@@Kakkojani Fotasy FD - L adapter on Amazon
@Gaia… Adapters for full frame have no glass. It’s only a spacer.
Just try portraits with 85mm, 100mm, 135mm or 200mm vintage lenses. It will blow your mind. The only problem with some lenses are the CA (removable in post) and some nervous background blur... But when you learn which distances and apertures are the better for soft background blur then the results are awesome
Totally agree, picked up some nFD's to use with my s5, the 28 and 50 are a great combo!
I really cant wait till all those S primes come out. I really want the full kit of those new F1.8's
manual is fun for video but give me AF for photos hahah.
@@impatrickt yes I'm pretty stoked on those new S primes, the Lumix S system def needs some new small and fast lenses
They are mighty fine lenses. Love that bayonet lock and how it always magically swings into position when you hit the button.
Yeah the lock is awesome
The 85 1.8 FD is pretty fantastic too
Will try to find one!
I have a Nikkor 85mm f:1.8 from 1966. It is absolute GOLD for image and construction quality.
(I want an FD 85mm for comparison, though)
@@insanejughead Nikkor makes beautiful glass. Unfortunately the backwards focusing is a deal breaker for me. I have 50mm f1.4 nikkor also adapted but I just can’t seem to get used to the focus ring direction.
@@impatrickt Hahahaha, I know the pain, but I've engineered my brain to make mental notes about which lens is which and how each one focuses. Thankfully all my vintage glass have HUGE focus throws.
I mainly shoot Canon mirrorless, I also have a Nikon D40 which is a great "take anywhere" DSLR, and is infinitely fun for just about any occasion. It was also one of the last things my mom passed down to me.
Are you familiar with Media Division?
Cheers, dude!
I’m double commenting because that building shot was awesome sauce!!!
I love FD's specifically, but some of the Soviet lenses are pretty amazing! I have fallen back in love with vintage lenses, 20 years into my pro career. My TH-cam channel is now dominated by old lenses!
That’s exactly the 2 lens combo I use with my Pocket 6K... love the organic look they provide!
excellent combo I gotta try them on my Pocket 4K
@@impatrickt can you say “film look”?! 😍
I picked up the Canon FD 28mm, 35mm and 50mm macro lens before I stumbled on your video. Love these lens for photo and video.
I love my Super Takumar 50mm/1.4. My favourite lens of all time.
I literally have a drawer of vintage lenses that I always have the best intentions of shooting with. Gonna break them out & get to work
WHAT! Yes get out there!
WHAT! Yes get out there!
I’m vibing SO hard right now!!!
Absolutely beautiful images! Contax Zeiss user here. They’re sharp as a tack and have tons of character, thats why I love them.
Yes! I have 2 old Minolta lenses that I adapted to my Sony camera, 28mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.4 and they are AWESOME. Beautiful colors and mad character. And great to constantly be working on my manual skills... All good things. Thanks for sharing.
That intro is money. FD lenses are legit.
thanks my dude! you're legit.
Really need to consider vintage lenses after watching this. Thanks for all the info here. Have to check out GOBE adapters too. Love the shots you were able to get with these lenses!
They’re a lot of fun and given how cheap they are there’s not much to lose. Just a fun experiment!
YES!
I absolutely love my FD lenses. Personally own the 28, 35, 50 1.4 & 135. I'm looking after the unicorn 85.
I'm mostly using the 50 1.4 for product photography, still have to use them in video.
The 50 is SO BUTTER. Really want to find a 35mm too. That’s a sweet kit you have!
@@impatrickt my 35 has a bit of a yellow tint, that I should get rid of with that ikea led lamp hack...but it’s a super compact lens!
@@Tvennet didn’t even know about hacks! My 50mm definitely hues towards the blues. But it’s a mood!
85 yeah, you'll love it. Try the 24 too...
I’ve got an eos m6 and and an m10. Got an fd speed booster as well as a normal adaptor. So with my 24, 50 and 135 I’ve got double the focal lengths taking advantage of the crop factor. A sweet cheat. And absolutely love them. Pics and videos that look way better than my skillset. Usually vintage is associated with just character but. Whereas these are sharp AND with character. Thank you for the video. And the confession
yeah they really surprised me how sharp they are!
The FD lenses are pure gems, but there are so many other beauties out there!
Lately I fell in love with a Yashica ML 200mm f4, it's a joy to use with a Fuji camera 😊
I won’t say “I told you so” haaha. I love my 28 FD and all other Nikons:)). Be safe, my man. Good to see you came to your senses 😂
hahahah
The FD glass is great. I have an AE-1, 50 1.4, 1.8, 28mm 2.8 and 100mm F4 macro. And an extension tube. They’re GREAT lenses! Awesome video man!
Great set!
@@impatrickt They’re super nice adapted to the Fuji stuff. I want to hit your link and get the FD to RF mount adapter. Cheers man!
Just scored a 17mm for the bmpcc4k so stoked, highly recommend the 70-210 for zooming in😍
Slick!
Man I agree, I was digging out my lenses I'd picked up ages ago thrifting and tried out the Cannon 50mm FD on my Nex-7 which isn't an amazing camera by any means and I was absolutely in love with it right away. lol
Hai haiiii! I ALSO have a nex-7 with a 50mm, i’m rocking the FD 1.8 S.C over here, messed with the colors in camera a little, threw a soeedbooster on, it produces some of the most beautiful images even in lowlight. The 1080p video is manageable to grade if you drop the sharpness and saturation, but even with standard colors it renders some BEAUUUTIFUL stuff, the speedbooster I use doesn’t really noticeably reduce sharpness, and when things aren’t crispy enough, 10/10 recommend.
The nex-7’s only downfall is the dogwater autofocusing, it really has a beautiful and unique sensor though, so vintage lenses with manual focus really show what the camera is capable of
I love my 50mm 1.4. I accidentally bought an extra adapter for it. Guess I’ll have to pick up another lens to put it on.
There ya go! Easy excuse 😂
Love my FD 50mm 1.8, I find of my other vintage lenses like the pentacon and the helios, it's the most pleasant in terms of skintones, at least in my usage. Thinking of picking up more FD's.
I got one of those FD 50 1.4 ssc for 12€ on ebay when I was starting shooting and still, a bunch of my favorite photos has been done with it mounted on a cheap MFT. Good to know it pairs well with the S5. Cheers!
I have owned those exact 2 lenses for 32 years. They came with my very first camera, the Canon AE-1. They now continue to live on .... on modern cameras. I've even added a few more this weekend. Well .. once they arrive.
The vintage lenses on the newer digital cameras DO give a different look. Not as edgy. Hard to explain, maybe less contrast, but I like the look, especially on the videos. I do not like electronic zoom or auto focus, I want to grab and twist....slowly. Nice video, cheers.
Great video man! The photos you took look awesome - love the muted colours that come out of the lens (plus your edits of course!).
Thanks Arran!
What lens did you shoot the talking head parto of this video?
I appreciate your input, just got my adapter in yesterday.. Plan on testing out my 28mm & 50mm today. Wish me luck 🤞🏽😄
I am probably buying the S5 because of your videos and your input om twitter. Now I’m looking to order the adapter home to Norway and find a few fd lenses. What are you doing to me man!?
Nice work though! Love your videos!
hopefully im saving you some money too with this setup!
@@impatrickt I’ve almost never used manual focus, but this looked so fun to test out and learn!
@@hermanborgstrm6276 you get the hang of it pretty quickly!
Ughhh the portrait shots convinced me to pick up the 50mm f/1.4. To ebay I go.
which one(s) do you have now?
@@impatrickt I bought two copies of the 50mm f/1.8 and they all have terrible haze. My Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 is clear though. But that 50mm f/1.4 SSC looks super dreamy.
@@gregbarbosa0 what do you mean with haze? Looking into buying the 50 f/1.8 myself
@@hermanborgstrm6276 haze as in the image looks foggy, like the lens is dirty from oil or something. Haze in vintage lenses can come from fungus or oil within the aperture blades.
@@hermanborgstrm6276 but the 50 f/1.4 SC (that Patrick used here), has a different lens coating (SC stands for spectra coating) and I've seen that model get less hazy, less often.
I currently have the fd 135mm and the 28mm and i love them on my a7iv. With focus peeking it's really easy to use and the results can get really good
I totally agree you. I have some old Canon and Nikon lenses that I use on my old film cameras, but also on my Canon EOS R6. It is absolutely crazy to use these partly very old lenses in combination with the sensor stabilization of the R6.
Can I ask you what fd to ef adapter do you use?
@@user-ug8lq4qe4s From K&F.
There’s a lot of misinformation about SC versus SSC; both are multi coatings, it was really just a marketing thing in the 70’s as it was a cheap way to up-sale people and there was a big “coating” war between lens makers. Nothing a good lens hood can’t fix.
I love this video. I have started using all my old FD lenses I had lying around. They are a little fuzzy for the moment, but it's either because I bought a cheaper adaptor, or I'm just getting used to the lenses themselves.
I have several FDs and really love using them. Bonus is that they're smaller and lighter than EF glass, and if one is damaged, i'm not out thousands of dollars.
Loved this man -FD lenses are so underrated especially on the S5. Although I’ve been using my 50mm Takumar more often lately. Also fotodiox adapters - $10-15 do the exact same thing as Gobe
Gobe is just a better company though. They plant trees with every purchase.
@@impatrickt good point - I didn’t know that
Nice video! Vintage lenses are such fun. They were the first lenses I’ve adapted to my Fuji when I first got it. I didn’t have any money at the time to buy any Fuji lenses 😂
When I’m walking around and taking pictures for fun, sometimes I’ll pull out some vintage lenses.
Proud Pentax 28mm f3.5 and Canon FD 50mm f1.4 owner. My 2 budget cine lenses. Also if yall buy from gobe, they plant a tree for every purchase.
Yeah love that about Gobe!!!
Just picked up a Canon AE-1 Program and it was paired with the 28 2.8. Stoked to pick up that give adapter and start using it on my EOS R and for video.
sick!
@@impatrickt A brand called URTH keeps coming up in place of GOBE but the branding looks the same. Do you know if they are?
@@mrarcaos yes same company
Do you find any danger or collection of dust or debris as a direct effect of the vintage lenses paired with adapters? My only drawback or concern with using these is the possibility of damaging the sensor.
I dont worry about dust I dont even use lens caps
I love FD lenses! Glad you're on the bandwagon now haha. one note, I got the Gobe FD to EF adapter for the 6k Pro and it renders the lenses un-useable. The image is incredibly soft and you can't achieve infinity focus (I tested 4 FDs on it and had the same result) so I'd recommend just fully converting them if you're going to use on EF! anyways, just my experience on that system. Great vid
probably the flange distance on the 6K pro. I dont believe that's listed as a supported camera anyways. just the standard canon EF cameras. might be easy to fix on the 6K pro with shims. I dont want to convert any lenses only because im not married to any lens mount. would prefer the flexibility.
@@impatrickt yes that’s what I figured too, i just wanted to try it before sending all my FD to get converted. But I did see a video where a guy who used the Gobe with 6k pro and he said he didn’t have any problems so who knows!
@@NoahsNostalgia what the heck! thats so strange!
@@NoahsNostalgia which video? Im planning on buying a 6kpro and a gobe adapter to pair with my FDs
@@mariopqrst th-cam.com/video/3lWzJns0Wok/w-d-xo.html
Hey, even if you don’t go canon FD specifically old Lenses are super inexpensive 🙌🏻 I’ve been adapting my grandfathers old lenses for a while now
You're such a great dude ! I've just bought the lumix S5, can't wait to get some vintage lenses to make some cinematic stuff
yes! enjoy it.
Those portraits are looking smooth, creamy, and luscious, man, nice work 👌🏻
thanks Parker!
Topcor made some excellent lenses ,try one if you can .
Is there an adapter to mount an FD lens to m42 mount camera like K3 16mm
@@DethronerX no clue
I swear I was gonna get the Helios 44-2 back in 2019. I should have pulled the trigger. 35 bucks and free shipping. Now they are all 60 bucks or more. Gawd I regret not doing it before.
Everyone loves those Helios
Do you get full frame and 35 crop ?
Try the Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-85 mm C/Y. It is as good as a prime throughout the zoom range. You wont go go near Canon FD ever again.
i’ve used it - i have a buddy with a full Zeiss kit. it’s fine - i wouldn’t buy it.
@@impatrickt tell more
Whoa..So the footage 1:35 is all internal recording no gimbal?? (just subbed btw) if so im definitely sold
Correct 🙏
Nice video, very cool music too! Yes, FD lenses are great, and if you haven't got that 35mm f2 yet, do so, it's awsome!
Growing up mostly with digital it took a bit to get used to the analog like look of vintage lenses. When people jump into this, they have to understand the rendering is nowhere near the same. I had to really look at what was going on to appreciate it. For a while it felt like something was missing in the images. It's like looking at TVs in a store and they're playing whatever demo video. You're looking at what's playing and all you keep thinking is how it looks hyper real. That's how modern lenses render compared to vintage lenses. Not that the modern isn't awesome, there's just a sameness you can't get away from no matter what you do. Personally I've stopped using anything but vintage lenses for my own personal work. Except modern MF lenses like Voigtlander.
hey! i have a question... i'm wrapping my head around the choice of my first "professional" camera body.....i know that everybody says that Sony is the best (like a7 iii or iv) but i dont like it! i love lumix s5/s5ii and also fujifilm xt3/xt4 and fuji in general.
I make videos, short movies and artsy things in general like video art and stuff...i really appreciate something different so i have LOVED this video because honestly i just wanna use vintage lenses from now on.. what body whould u recommend me ? i really have no idea !!
also, sorry for bad english but i'm italian 😅 hope u can help me
(my budget is between 1000 and 2500)
.....also...ahaha! are u using blackmagic poket right? i think its good too so now the choices are for 3 different brands!
Awesome vid. I’m going to buy that Gobe adapter today for my S5. Quick question: do the FD lenses have threads for ND filters?
yes usually 55mm
Such good shots! Love this. Every now and then I throw an FD lens on my Canon 80d and it's a blast.
Also big fan of those closing comments ;)
😂
Thanks, this is the first time I've seen color I like in portraits from the S5.
best thing to remember is any camera with raw file can look however you want. color science is irrelevant and a stupid myth invented by lazy TH-camrs.
@@impatrickt yeah you’re right, but still you’re the only one I’ve seen so far edit the raw files to get these colors, not just from TH-cam but just from google searches
Vintage lens are amazing. I love my Nikon 105 f/2.5, and Rokkor-x 50mm f/1.4 two of my fav lens. I highly recommend them and it’s a good paring for the MFT system.
heck yeah! sounds great.
Nice video PT! Would the canon fd’s look better(subjective) on the s5 vs the bmpcc 4K. Have you tested it on both?
they don’t look better or worse on specific cameras. camera is the camera.
This video was great, really helped me! Thanks a lot bro
Thank you for this video! I love vintage lenses! Is there a crop with the Lumix S5 when you use FD's lenses?
they are full frame lenses
Great photos, enjoyed this video very much. Well done.
Does the Urth have infinity focus? It seems to be a good adaptor
probably depends on the camera you use
First lens I got. And it’s a darling!
Hi! very good video. Thanks for sharing. Happy New Year.
cheers!
THANK YOU
Next you should really go down the rabbit hole that is Leica R. funny enough, my first ever one came in the mail - a Leica R Summicron 50mm f/2 V2. man it’s lovely. i understand now. might toss my vintage Contax Zeiss glass, but not really.
Nice!
What aperture do you use for the photos in your video?
I have no recollection sorry
Nice work! I’ve been using the 28 and the 50 1.4 as well - love them. Quick question: how are you finding the file sizes with the S5 external recording? Too brutal? I’m thinking about going that direction because the Prores samples look pretty great, but I’m worried I’ll wind up blowing a fortune on storage.
Thanks Ben! I don’t use the external recording I don’t really see the need for it. I tested it for my initial review to see how the RAW worked/looked but the internal codec is really strong in 10 bit and like you said it will just eat up storage. Don’t really see a positive ROI on external recording. Maybe if I was doing something where we had to really push it in post but I can’t imagine that scenario to be honest. I’ve been shooting everything in v-log and the file hasn’t fallen apart on me yet. Even if I mess up and clip out. Easy fix to bring it back. I mean it’s obviously nice that if for whatever reason a client wanted RAW or ProRes you wouldn’t have to transcode but for normal use the internal 10 bit is really good. Hope that helps!
Great to know! Thanks for the detailed response. btw I love seeing West End Toronto spots in your videos - great place to be (maybe not at the moment, but in general).
Amazing stuff and so inspiring. I am having difficulties finding adapter for my LUMIX S5, i mainly want to adapt Canon FD lenses but also M42 lenses. You think you can point me in the right direction? Thaanks
Links in the description
Patrick is there a Neutral picture profile on the Panasonic S5
there is but I would recommend Cine-V, L709, or learning V-Log.
@@impatrickt I would like to try Neutral picture profile also alongside the others
Can you use ND filters on FD lenses? I heard that they’re difficult to adapt
Yes! 55mm and they make step rings for them
Definitely check out Media Divisions video/lesson on Canon FD / K35's.
ive seen it. its good
Love the Canon FD lenses. But is there a different mount on the SC version, than the NFD`s?
I don’t know what that means
The FL and the FD and nFD mounts are interchangeable with minor exceptions as the FL 2,5 35mm and the older 19mm. The bayonet has the same dimensions as the first R-lenses from 1955. The difference is the amount the lenses protrudes in the mirror box of the camera body. The A Series of cameras had larger mirrors which could interfere with the rear lens group. And, of course, the signal elements are different but downgrade compatible with loss of some functions.
Bro you got me laughing with your outro I love it
👌🙏
Has the Airpods Max fell from the rails yet?
not yet. one day soon I hope.
Nice work!
This lenses with the adapter keep the s5 on full frame mode or change to apsc?
There’s no way for the adapter to send any information to the camera. FD lenses are full frame lenses 🙏
On full frame mode.
get the canon SSC glass lenses. there is so much glass you can take pics in the dark, no kidding!
I actually got rid of all of these. lol they kinda suck.
@@impatrickt ha! what was the downside? what didnt you like?
@@bernRA shitty focus breathing, flaring, and theyre just built crappy
I have the 24 and 50. Along with the 35 convex but can’t get the concave as it’s nuclear
Gotta watch out for the Chernobyl lenses
Does the adapter change the field of view?
No
Was this filmed in 5.9 12 bit?
4K h265
@@impatrickt thank you 🙏
You’ve been avoiding the FD lenses since it became popular to put them on new cameras? You’ve been avoiding it since the 1970s?
I was born in 62
alright im convinced. you got me LOL
🔥🔥🔥
As someone who grew up shooting film, shooting manual just isn't a big deal for me. using autofocus actually feels like cheating sometimes lol
manual focus sucks but it is what it is
@@impatrickt What I mean to say is - this is a great lifehack for someone like me, that's both an amatuer and doesn't mind manual focus. I would have never thought to look at adapters for non-modern lenses! Thanks for the tip and the examples.
Niiiiiiice :)
pssst... your making the prices go up :D
Could you make a video like this with the fuji?
I probably won’t it doesn’t interest me but the same principles apply just gotta factor in the aps-c crop.
Thanks anyway for your reply. And yeah i thought it might be interesting because of the speedbooster stuff.
@@b.w.6615 the speed booster works so terribly that you would have to have an adapter on top of it. I’m just not into it. Fuji is good because it’s simple. This makes it too complicated IMO.
@@impatrickt im only interested because i have plenty FD lenses and im not sure if should go for the xt-4 or the lumix s5. And basicly im not into adapters that much. It doesnt help me now, but your video was still great ✌🏼
@@b.w.6615 if you want to use your FD lenses definitely don’t get a Fuji IMO.
Maravilloso.... Saludos desde Mexico.
Wait till you try the FD 200 2.8 >< ( may not be your style but this lens is magical)
I’m picking up a 100mm 🙏
@@impatrickt Haha Nice, i never have cause i already own a 135, but seems like a nice lens
man maybe i buy this adapter :)
I don’t think anybody makes an FD to EFM speed booster. Kinda annoying.
yeah theyre on amazon
@@impatrickt There’s plenty of adapters but no speed boosters. I can find Sony E to FD, RF to FD and micro Four thirds to FD speedbooster but no EF M to FD. Hmmmmm 🧐
@@darkthingswithmarkdavis4497 I don’t recommend boosting FD the optics have a hard enough time on their own it will look like dog shit with more glass added
@@impatrickt I hear it’s that weird ef to fd adapter was the dog since it uses an optic to correct the 42mm flange into a 40mm. I’m pretty it’s common place for the pro to use speedboosters. Of coarse, usually really expensive ones like the metabones. Them things like 300 and 400 bones. Damn, yo! 😳
@@impatrickt Have you seen Media division episode on the canon fd vs canon k35. Pretty amazingly cool. :)
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