Ora Cat (EV) - It's NOT An MG4 Rival

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  • The Ora Cat is a new car AND a new brand. It's semi premium (or at least it's aiming to be) so does it pull it off?
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  • @rbettsx
    @rbettsx ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This sells for about £17-18K in China. Apart from shipping, who's getting the margin?

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adding 10% import duty and 20% VAT ups that a little.

    • @jonathancullen1337
      @jonathancullen1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      The more pertinent question is who's getting the margin for example when a Stellantis BEV is circa 10k more than the equivalent ICE. I suspect MG margin is thin...

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Importer probably

    • @stevenjones916
      @stevenjones916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SDK2006b Not £15,000 though 😂😂😂

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stevenjones916 - I think it’s wrong to assume that a car selling in China should be the same price in the UK. Should the wages in the UK be the same as China too 🤔😝 The two countries operate on a completely different social and finance level.
      Car prices (any asset prices) are set based on what the producer can sell them, in the quantities they want. Prices are not set on the value of the sum of the parts !

  • @SNORKYMEDIA
    @SNORKYMEDIA ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So it costs more than an MG4, but has worse range, much worse charging and worse boot space, but it is "funky" and has a nicer interior......think this might be a bit of a harder sell than ORA expect in the UK...

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You don't SERIOUSLY think people make sensible, rational, practical decisions when buying a CAR, do you....!?!?.
      We buy what we LIKE!!!
      ... always have...

    • @SNORKYMEDIA
      @SNORKYMEDIA ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andymccabe6712 you might not but I bloody do...

    • @arnoldtabor3767
      @arnoldtabor3767 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's going up against Fiat and Mini and Honda and the Corsa E and the E208 ... It's not going to win

    • @grahamlockley4435
      @grahamlockley4435 ปีที่แล้ว

      The biggest bonus for me is that it isnt as hideous as an MG

    • @seanlee3863
      @seanlee3863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ora is clearly marketed towards young females likes the vw beetle. Overall young girls don't care about all that specs, they just care about how it looks and what it makes them feel

  • @cloggsy1971
    @cloggsy1971 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Ora ‘Funky’ Cat… The funny thing is, it is only £13,000 in China. Granted, the Chinese version probably hasn’t all the bells & whistles that the UK version has, but that is one hell of a price hike 😳😬

    • @briandavies7402
      @briandavies7402 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have You ever known anyone turn down a pay rise? same goes with this

    • @rwang4348
      @rwang4348 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      china goverment offers huge subs to ev from 10 years ago, so it is better to compare its local price with its rivals, like tasla or Mg4 in china, MG4 starts at 13k pound in china, ora cat starts at basically the same......
      And the 0-100km version only 22k In China, with impressive 428HP, 4WD......

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Japan's domestic cars are dirt cheap as well.... what's your point?

    • @cloggsy1971
      @cloggsy1971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fatdoi003 👆🏻👇🏻👉🏻👈🏻

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cloggsy1971 that's right, pointless.... just for the sake of whinging.. or you just can't accept a country making a good product charging similar price to their competitors?

  • @rcajavus8141
    @rcajavus8141 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    apparently its a lot cheaper in china, below 20k euro - so where did 15k euro go, tariffs?

  • @jerrymyahzcat
    @jerrymyahzcat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I test drove the Extended Range here in Australia.
    To turn the indicator off after a lane change you have to tap it in the opposite direction, not keep tapping it in the same one.
    The extended range is A$47k drive away with a free 7kW wall charger (not installed).
    You can easily keep it going all the time even by just plugging in the Type 1 standard wall charger every time it’s home in the garage. It’s unlikely to be an issue unless you take a long trip. 420km range is ok for the size car (think Corolla or Golf dimensions).
    In addition to your Auto/Normal/Eco/Sports modes there are also 3 steering wheel modes you change separately - Sport/Normal/Comfort.
    Also I believe it charges at 75kW here. And the warranty is 7yr unlimited km plus 8yr on the battery.
    This vehicle has only just arrived in Australia and there are 2 be 4 models. The Standard range 310km, Extended range 420km, Ultra 420km and GT 400km (due to sunroof and other weight).

  • @iKaGe01
    @iKaGe01 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We still need a really good 13-15k new ev on the market. When? No idea

  • @ademcguinness8132
    @ademcguinness8132 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey EVM, love the channel and this review.
    A couple of issues, the elephant in the room is price, this car is far too expensive for a "second car" which is not sufficiently versatile & family sized.
    It has a confused and mixed USP, a very poor value proposition, its not in the value segment but not good enough, in terms of Sharp looking or equipped (small battery 48kW ?) nor badge /. brand desire to be premium offering and there in lies the rub. Its an Expensive middle ground offering from an unknown Chinese brand.
    The rear is (in my opinion) its worst angle, when your only plus point is its nicer than a Nissan Leaf, that is not a design achievement to crow about. I tend to also agree the 18" alloys are so awful.
    Your initial opening comments are in fact correct, but perhaps for not the reason you stated, it is NOT an MG4 competitor, no where close in terms of a clear segment it is aiming to conquer (e.g. the value proposition) The looks are obviously a very personal aspect but its not "premium". So its not a value proposition nor a premium vehicle which puts it in no-mans land. An "average" EV with a splash of design flair (the front only). The only things you state is that its a "meh" car...does nothing badly, and nothing really well. It will appeal to "non car" people who like a specific design and colour combo.
    This is such a shame as it held so much promise, but ultimately I feel it is the wrong car for the wrong market at the wrong price.
    "You will not see many on the road"....such an understatement :)

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People buy minis, Honda EV’s etc as second cars.
      They’re too expensive for you and I, but not for many others.

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectricVehicleMan yeah! - the Honda E is eye-wateringly pricey for what it gives you-but if you like it and can afford it...the price is irrelevant!
      ... Not everyone needs to care how much electricity has gone up!!
      The 'Cat' looks like a great car, and I'm sure it will shift plenty of units....

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just think about this, Ade..... 'non car people' is MOST OF US.....!!!

  • @keithwilson1554
    @keithwilson1554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just released in Australia and around $3 to 4,000 cheaper than an MG4 also just released but is the Hi-Spec Essence model.

  • @bill_heywood
    @bill_heywood ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Saw the Funky Cat at Fully Charged live and I was impressed with the interior design and quality. Downsides, the boot is tiny, the range is not great - 170 miles according to EV Database. Even with a small battery it charges slowly - 47 minutes 10-80%
    I hear what you say about it aiming for a premium market, but they have got the pricing all wrong. The launch model should be £25k, they need to sell some in order to start building the brand. £32k for a short range, slow charging, small boot car from a brand no one in the UK knows is too much

    • @philipwilson5140
      @philipwilson5140 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. Far too costly fo any normal UK resident. The mark-up from the CN price is over 100%. Thats pure profiteering. At this price, the number that we will see on the UK roads will be very small. ORA has made a huge mistake...

    • @trevorberridge6079
      @trevorberridge6079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The average price range for a car in the UK is £28k-£35k, so the Ora is average price. Not cheap, but definitely average. Also smaller batteries charge relatively slowly because they reach 80% quicker and therefore start throttling earlier. For example, charging 10-80% of 48kwh is 33.6kwh (70%). When the 63kwh model comes out it will only need to charge from 10-63% to add 33.6kwh (53%). It won't have throttled down at all. Also unknown brands have marked out the entire history of modern electric cars. Being an unknown brand doesn't necessarily cripple an EVs sales. Certainly didn't harm Tesla, BYD or Geely.

    • @bill_heywood
      @bill_heywood ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevorberridge6079 it's not the throttling at the top of the battery that is an issue, it's the slow maximum charge. If it charged at 120kW to 70% before ramping down, that'd be great
      At the moment, neither BYD or Geely are selling in the UK market under their own names. Geely own Volvo, a well known brand, and Polestar, a long established performance tuning brand, both are known quantities
      If GWM wants Ora to make serious inroads in the UK market, an overpriced, slow charging car with a tiny boot & small range seems an odd way to go about it

    • @David-bl1bt
      @David-bl1bt 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ive just seen and test driven this car at the "everything electric " show in Harrogate.
      My wife and I were so impressed with the build quality, high spec and quirky?, chic interior tgat we are seriously considering one as axsecond car for local trips.
      Researching...i can get one for £167/mth on 3 yr lease, or a 1st edition model pre-used on s '73 playe with 3k miles or less for around £16-£17k....an absolute bargain.
      We'll be taking another mire in-depth look tomorrow and then decide.

  • @stepheng8779
    @stepheng8779 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice car but they've misread the market at that price.

  • @timw1971
    @timw1971 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really great that you included a reasonable PCP example. Would be great if you could keep that up in other videos. After all, that's the real cost for most private buyers.

  • @justbrowsing7565
    @justbrowsing7565 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This over the MG4? Not a chance. MG4 everything.

  • @Grant.G.Simpson
    @Grant.G.Simpson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what impresses me the most about this whole thing is the fact you owned a nissan leaf from 2015 to 2000. ( 4:20 ) EVM mastered time travel folks. but jokes aside, good honest review, great channel and nicely down to earth. well done

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, the demographics ORA targets is young urban female which is reflected in styling, color, performance and safety. There are some specific details including slightly lower door handle position, big console pocket for cosmetic bag, the little pocket next to driver is perfect for lipsticks, big visor mirror, facial recognition auto start so hand free to hold purse, alert from monitor when driver focuses putting on eye shadow instead of road, the entrance has no sharp edge that may catch stocking, high roof for tight skirt to get in and out easy, etc. Did notice a voice control improvement needed, in US we say roll down the window and I noticed a few British testers said put the window down and ORA only understood roll down and not put down.

  • @briangriffiths114
    @briangriffiths114 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like the Cat's appearance because it bucks the current trend towards angular cars. Nice paint job on the launch model and smart looking interior.

    • @InBodWeTrust
      @InBodWeTrust ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IMHO it has a look only a mother could love 🤷‍♂

    • @briangriffiths114
      @briangriffiths114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InBodWeTrust I agree that beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder!

    • @ellisrochlin2267
      @ellisrochlin2267 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InBodWeTrust Your sooo right , its a chinese mother With less toys £ 13 k IS START PRICE IN CHINA

  • @paulcolu
    @paulcolu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your right it’s certainly not an MG4 rival in anyway

    • @grahamlockley4435
      @grahamlockley4435 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it actually looks ok rather than 'Designed by Aldi' :)

  • @gap9992
    @gap9992 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too big for a city car, too small for a family car, range too short for an only car, What's the opposite of a Goldilocks product ?
    Heritage borrowed from various brands and stitched together like Frankenstein's monster. Porsche front and Nissan Leaf rear - nice! I think it's ugly but others will love it)
    Not that quick, Tech no better than average
    Dealer network? maintenance? Warranty support??
    "Let's pitch it as a premium (aka over-priced) brand, give it a stupid name and see what happens, 30% of the Honda E market ain't that many cars ! lol

  • @rbdogwood
    @rbdogwood ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The indicators have a light shove for 3 flashes, harder for longer. So if you press again for stop, it understands it as 'do another 3 flashes'.

    • @apierc1
      @apierc1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, user error

    • @trevorberridge6079
      @trevorberridge6079 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad someone mentioned that. I was thinking, "WTF is he doing with that indicator?".

    • @gregb1599
      @gregb1599 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a little tricky to operate, but like everything you will get used to it

  • @NormanF62
    @NormanF62 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you’re torn between a Porsche and a Mini, Ora has got you covered with the Funky Cat. The Chinese are aiming square for the premium car segment owned by VW and BMW. Whether they succeed, only time will tell. Looks like a fun car to drive!

    • @ellisrochlin2267
      @ellisrochlin2267 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAVE FUN , BUY ONE and start a funky cat owners club

    • @MUFC1933
      @MUFC1933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MG4 is a fun car to drive 👍

  • @pgarrish
    @pgarrish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its refreshing that GWM, Hyundai, Citroen are not churning out endless boring SUVs in different sizes. I hope it spurs the other manufacturers to start showing some imagination

  • @tonychallinor6721
    @tonychallinor6721 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If they hadn't put the price up so much we were going to get one, and nickname it Rita

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a stealth car....steals your money...if your foolish enough to pay grossly inflated UK pricing
      Are we back to personal imports?

    • @stephenowens5375
      @stephenowens5375 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, was waiting for this in UK but not at silly prices. Decided to stick with 2 replacement but economical petrol cars as I just can't justify these crazy prices considering I don't think there's much of a running cost saving if any at all.

  • @johnsimpson1574
    @johnsimpson1574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought one in South Africa. Really great car

  • @timdarnbrough3007
    @timdarnbrough3007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I quite like it, it's got a new mini/ beetle esq styling.

  • @Clampett01
    @Clampett01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always loved your no frills plain speaking approach reviews. If I could be so brazen to suggest an enhancement. I find myself being distracted and trying to come up with practical suggestions to help with your strange wardrobe choices. I hope you don't take offence. Great review. Colin

  • @CJMVector321190
    @CJMVector321190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be interested to see the charge curve, most have peak charge but over only 15-25% of the range. So a flat curve means it would charge ok.

  • @Ian_Woods
    @Ian_Woods ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well i think we can agree, 😂 it definately is not a MG4 competitor, nor I think much else really. Until they actually get my MG4 for me, I am still looking to see if anything else comes close or better so thought this might be interesting, Nope!. Although have to say do like the interior of that model, but then thats why my MG4 (when it comes) will have the grey/white 2tone interior instead of the horrible all black.

  • @AndyDento21
    @AndyDento21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a car guy mechanic with 20 years experience and I would have one for sure in green with the two tone green and cream! It’s a good car already seen reviews in china by WHEELSBOY.

  • @eddiereed5025
    @eddiereed5025 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A no goer at that price especially with that battery size

  • @garage6346
    @garage6346 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me, it actually is a MG4 rival.
    My car needs 2 seats (the kids are going their own ways) and space for 2-3 weeks of baggage.
    Both cars will have enough space for the once-a-year haul trip to the Hardware Store or Ikea.
    For me it all comes down to range, charging speed and driver assistance.
    The first is similar (with Ora's bigger battery announced at least for Germany), charging is clearly pro MG, so it comes down to driver assistance. MG Pilot atm is a straight path into suicide (waiting for the coming update), Ora is supposed to be quite good here, at least that's what the German Importeur says...

  • @Hawks1980
    @Hawks1980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If this had been £25k then I would have said this will fly out of showrooms for it's looks alone which will appeal to people who like they styling of Fiat 500's/Mini's/Jukes etc, but just don't see that many people paying £7k more for a chinese brand they have never heard of over an MG4. If you can spend £32k on a small car you're looking at a much more established brand in my view...Renault Zoe, Fiat 500 etc

  • @sevesellors2831
    @sevesellors2831 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the styling and well equipped it’s just the cost like all electric cars.

    • @honesty_-no9he
      @honesty_-no9he ปีที่แล้ว

      UK government import taxes and retail VAT that is the problem.

  • @timaustin2000
    @timaustin2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's just too expensive. Which is a shame as there is a lot to like about it! But 170-190 miles, realistically, and just over 60kw rapid charging? That's not in the technical ballpark of cars at that price or, indeed, many cars cheaper than it.
    At £25k I'd have chewed their arms off for one.

  • @markcornwall8132
    @markcornwall8132 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife quite liked this and looked on their website. Nearest dealer is over 200 miles away from us !!

  • @neverquit2470
    @neverquit2470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your way to speak about cars...you are so passionate 🤗

  • @georgedaville4662
    @georgedaville4662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very fair and balanced review. This is what I would define as a “cute” electric car. Price is critical for IK market entry. Quoted Chinese prices bear no resemblance to what price we have to pay in rip-off Britain. Once Nissan does a Honda we will have no UK Electric car Manufacturing capability and will be at the mercy of world markets🤔

  • @andrewdyson4255
    @andrewdyson4255 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like it, but I don’t think it’s good value of money. There are better ones out there for the money. I’d have a DS3 over that

  • @petearmstrong2778
    @petearmstrong2778 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Norway £28k - feels like rip-off prices right now but doubt it will last.

  • @pipersall6761
    @pipersall6761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats a great car. Beautiful and a wonderful size for most people who need an efficient car.

  • @martino9134
    @martino9134 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ora have a >60kWh version of this they left at home . With the bigger battery version at 30k it might be a more interesting proposition . 25k for this (which is the price banded around when they initially launched it last year) .as for retro looks Mini-e Fiat 500 Electric have that sorted . This is a Nissan Figaro attempt at retro

  • @eldridgep2
    @eldridgep2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice enough car but the price is too high was originally touted around the £25k mark at £32k it'd be a no from me.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At £32k you're in used 12 to 18 month old Kia eNiro, Soul, VW ID3 and Hyundai Kona territory........ All solid proven EV's.

  • @onlineo2263
    @onlineo2263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the car a lot... But it is the same size as an id3, with half the boot, 95% of the price and 70% of the range! I can't make that work, maybe the long range version would make us interested in a car with no boot!

  • @maureenandjohnwhite6228
    @maureenandjohnwhite6228 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those indicators would do my head in!!
    Why would anyone buy this over the MG4???

  • @ElectricCarAustralia
    @ElectricCarAustralia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review. Interested to see how this sells in Australia given the style of vehicle, unknown brand and dealership parts and maintenance history.
    Agree with another viewer, the price is significantly above what they sell for in China which again will be a hard sell. Specs might be higher but the basic chassis, quality, paint etc. will be same as Chinese model so price appears on the high side.
    Time will tell 👍

    • @hksaxophone5914
      @hksaxophone5914 ปีที่แล้ว

      this car actually shares lots of parts with the upcoming mini cooper bev ver..(will be released next yr). so shouldnt be hard to find parts n maintenance..

  • @fsr170409
    @fsr170409 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Typical retailers, they give you an estimated price then realize that we're silly enough to pay premium prices in the UK.I think it's more of a 25k-26k car,having said that it's a great looking car reminds me of the Nissan Figaro interior.Thanks once again for a great honest opinion 👍

    • @fanfeck2844
      @fanfeck2844 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it our import duty?

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not worth £25k, with sub 200mile range in 2023 and unknown parentage / Chinese origin, questionable looks, stupid name, it needs to be sub £20k to find a niche...as we shall no doubt see

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fanfeck2844 err, no

    • @marvinsamuels1237
      @marvinsamuels1237 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidstuart4915 I think the fact there are people out there that will pay the asking price, means we will not see them priced as low as £20k.
      As for the questionable parentage; Hyundai and Kia are good examples of brands new to Europe and the UK, slowly improving their image and increasing sales to become a common sight on our roads.

    • @garyayres4404
      @garyayres4404 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marvinsamuels1237 But in those Makes You have a great marketing tool it’s called a choice- big mistake.

  • @fanfeck2844
    @fanfeck2844 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m not so sure we are brand snobs anymore. Most of us will go for good quality and price over badge. When I was young, no one would be seen dead in a Kia/ Hyundai or Skoda. My only worry with this brand would be dealer backup and parts in the longer term

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว

      The point you're possibly alluding to is that, unlike the bad old days of the 80s there really aren't any shite cars anymore - everything is basically, well designed and built.....!

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spot on. Rather ironic that you often find superior quality in a Skoda these days. They frequently have the edge in build quality and finish over VW now..... I'd take a Skoda every time over a VW. In fact I have, four times.....

    • @fanfeck2844
      @fanfeck2844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Brian-om2hh yes, and my point was, the three brands I mentioned were never that bad, it’s just we had a lot more badge snobbery back then. Even with tech, I’m seeing more of the cool kids forgoing the brands, and buying cheap value for money phones, as they are aware most of these expensive brands are manufactured in Far Eastern sweatshops

    • @bordersw1239
      @bordersw1239 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly , dealer back up, availability of parts and the training those mechanics receive is what’s most important for a new car.

    • @fanfeck2844
      @fanfeck2844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dynevor6327 I don’t think you could ever describe MG an an aspirational badge for brand snobs. The Chinese bought the company and stuck with the name

  • @GHOOGLEMALE
    @GHOOGLEMALE ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No, no no no - Its a £18-22k car with nice seats. Elephant in the room here is Dealers, Parts availability and probably most of all - Residual values. No doubt Chinese cars will eventually dent the market as Japanese did in the late 20th century. But they had to buy their way into the market, lots of kit for little money - Until they became properly established. This at a price higher than an ID3, noisier, with less range, smaller battery, slower charging, smaller boot and zero credibility in the UK marketplace is a non starter. £22k tops might buy it a place with gamblers.

    • @chrispenn715
      @chrispenn715 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Agree with you. Charging and range are not good enough for the price

    • @haoruchen4216
      @haoruchen4216 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EV needs no service. It’s like a different animal. It’s like a e-bike or washing machine. Worry free.

    • @GHOOGLEMALE
      @GHOOGLEMALE หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@haoruchen4216 Yes it is when its working properly, but when it isnt - where do you take it. Same for accident damage, where does it go and who do they get the parts from. Even EV's are serviced for brakes, suspension, steering components eventually

  • @crc5244
    @crc5244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At time of writing the lease costs (48 month) for the Funky Cat are about 25% cheaper than alternatives like the MG4. So the "list price" doesn't tell the full story

  • @martinwray7001
    @martinwray7001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it me, or is the ORA badge on the back not central?
    It looks like the L fell off, but that said, I'm not going to Google oral cat.
    Nice video as always.

    • @r33gts
      @r33gts ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂

  • @marklola12
    @marklola12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the app is fantastic you can do more on it than most and you can even turn the temp up and down when precondition where alot you have only 1 set temp

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sorry but anyony with a PC can see that ORA is half the price in China. They could have sold it below the MG and it would have raised a lot of interest. For me £32k upwards is too expensive.

  • @MUFC1933
    @MUFC1933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:15 I prefer the look inside of ORA to MG 4 tho 👍 nice . the rotary dial 9:01 is identical to MG4s.

  • @The-Salty-Bager
    @The-Salty-Bager ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the looks and interior, but the battery and boot are to small. Do you have any idea why there seems to a current trend of building hatch backs and not fitting a rear wiper ?

    • @stephenbamforth1514
      @stephenbamforth1514 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have noticed this trend also 🤷‍♂️

    • @Dreadpirateflappy
      @Dreadpirateflappy ปีที่แล้ว

      That has been going on years with aerodynamic cars. my Ioniq 6 years ago had no rear wiper. it was never an issue

  • @BigVern1980
    @BigVern1980 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On the MG4 front the cat is definitely not an alternative as the 4 has a decent enough boot to be a credible family car. The cat looks like a honda E, fiat 500e, mini electric competitor to me. Totally see where you are coming from the design, it is the love child of an original leaf and a Porsche!

  • @MUFC1933
    @MUFC1933 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I couldn’t decide for ages wether to get one of these, a BYD atto or an MG4.

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I imagine a 5 year old one will be a great buy. I suspect there won't be that many on the roads though. MG are attracting buyers because there's nothing else offering the same thing at the same price. This is quite a risk for anyone shelling out cash. I guess if you are leasing as a company car driver it may be ok because you aren't taking that risk.

  • @geesh59
    @geesh59 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You're damn right it's not an MG4 rival. It's way smaller and way more expensive. It's not even in the same ballpark.

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..and the MG4 will no doubt start from nearer £21k next year I reckon

    • @griffonethousand
      @griffonethousand ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt that, I’ve heard rumours from some leasing firms of MG prices going up a bit - they’re so much cheaper than their direct competition that their main problem is building enough to meet demand. A slightly higher price might mean slightly lower demand that they could then actually meet. We’ll see

  • @gregpeirce6121
    @gregpeirce6121 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like it, have seen a number of reviews from Bjorn and was looking forward to it, but not at this price and for the small battery plus where has the sunroof gone! I think I'll wait for the Tesla small when it arrives.

  • @ericpisch2732
    @ericpisch2732 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the jonny smith notebook

  • @DrEugenioMartinez
    @DrEugenioMartinez หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've driven both and the Ora's quality is visible superior, plastics and and software in mg are cheaper and has lags. The 9nly thing is Ora is not that easy to get used to.

  • @hooksforestchin
    @hooksforestchin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it had the bigger battery at that price, very interested, although would prefer the GT trim. With that range, not interested at any price but it's competing with the Solantis cars and it's way more expensive than those and no dealer network. No thanks

  • @bordersw1239
    @bordersw1239 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember when they all told us how much more space a ground up would have compared to an ICE?

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's beautiful. I might even learn to drive now- although I'm 73 now, so maybe it's too late :-)

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if u have the money - go get an 'automatic car' licence - EVs are semply 'press and go' u only have to get used to pointing it in the right direction - self preservation will soon teach u when to brake - EVs even help u with that :)
      U will love the independence and countryside they give u access to :)

    • @davidspendlove5900
      @davidspendlove5900 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not long before you don’t have to actually drive the car at all.

    • @Dreadpirateflappy
      @Dreadpirateflappy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidspendlove5900 people have been saying that for about 30 years... My dad said that when Total recall came out during the Johnny cab scene.

  • @davidstuart4915
    @davidstuart4915 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    theyve killed it stone dead by doubling the price in a global market, just for the Brits...

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh ปีที่แล้ว

      British buyers sometimes tend to shy away from new unproven brands. MG seem to have got away with it, but once a glut of Chinese cars begin appearing, buyers may exercise more caution.....

    • @NimbusCumulus
      @NimbusCumulus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed. In China it’s a nice looking EV with a decent interior at a reasonable price. But they are charging far too much here in the UK.

    • @andrewkirk3159
      @andrewkirk3159 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dead Cat.

    • @stevenjones916
      @stevenjones916 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NimbusCumulus $15,000 USD in China.

    • @ericpisch2732
      @ericpisch2732 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want a car called a funky cat

  • @honesty_-no9he
    @honesty_-no9he ปีที่แล้ว

    The bigger battery is the one to go for. As for charging speed the larger battery will likely be 90kW. In China the affordable cars tend to have 60kW to 90kW charging but a flat charging curve. The generous warranty is likely due to the LFP battery.

  • @drxym
    @drxym ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is something off about the outside of that car but it looks really nice on the inside. I think that infotainment screen looks like a usability disaster though - imagine trying to fumble around trying to touch on that while driving.

  • @graemecollin
    @graemecollin ปีที่แล้ว

    As GWM (Ora's parent company) are the new designers and builders (and soon to be owners of the marque???) of all future electric Minis, don't be surprised if you're looking at the future of the Mini ...

  • @philhough3596
    @philhough3596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing you could do to differentiate yourself from other reviews, and also be really helpful…. Spend a lot more time on the apps.
    We’ve got a Honda E for example and the app as shockingly bad. And a Tesla, which highlights how bad the Honda is.
    It’s be good to know what the app of given cars is… what features it has, and how well it works.
    Honda E for example you can warm it up or cool it down, but can’t set the temps.
    You get the idea. Would be very helpful 👍

  • @Dreadpirateflappy
    @Dreadpirateflappy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don;t understand why other reviewers keep claiming it's on par with the MG4, it;s more expensive, smaller and is far less practical as an EV. also we get ripped off in the UK massively considering how cheap it is in China.

  • @honesty_-no9he
    @honesty_-no9he ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GWM has made some errors in their marketing here. The CATS are a series of different cars in China. Also leasing companies in UK seem to only have the basic entry level version of this car. UK should have gotten the larger battery version but I suspect that UK government has hit them hard with import taxes. The ten minute PM Truss declared China as an official enemy and the current government is still full of such nutters. They should have launched the entire selection at once to show the broader concept of the ORA CAT cars. The most exciting of which is the ORA PUNK CAT (real retro to the future and more premium finish) and what is called ORA LIGHTNING in China, appears to be called Grand Cat in Thailand and has been implied to be called NEXT CAT in The West. Lightning was fine it is an affordable sports-sedan, after UK Gov it'll be semi-affordable. There is also for the ladies BALLET CAT in China. UK claims to have a pro EV policy but the transition can only happen if cars that begin affordable are allowed to land affordable.

  • @ericbrown8916
    @ericbrown8916 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly they are priced to prevent accusations of product dumping. Plus they need the cash reserves to help cover the costs of all food imports China needs.

  • @gavjlewis
    @gavjlewis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know why they changed the name. Should have left it as Good Cat. In reality I would probably just debadge it just leaving the Ora bit. There is only one model so it doesn't really matter having the name.

  • @clasqm
    @clasqm ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool little baby Porsche in front, welded to a Leaf rear end. I'll hold out for the Punk Cat.

  • @atreyuidaho
    @atreyuidaho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait for the new DS3 E-Tense! It has (and had in fact) nothing to do with the C3!

  • @OraEtLabora0
    @OraEtLabora0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤔3:12 are you going for "shorter Johnny Smith" vibe, with that notebook? 😉

  • @dcvariousvids8082
    @dcvariousvids8082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fiat 500 or Zoe but with better access and a nicer larger interior and I kind of lik the out side.

  • @michaeledwards8079
    @michaeledwards8079 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is not an MG4 rival, the MG is far better looking and would be my choice

    • @martf8233
      @martf8233 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gets to show how relative good looks are. This car has won me over the MG precisely for the looks reasons, even if the MG is slightly better in what you get for your money. I like my car with organically curved shapes, not a geometric box. So the current fashion is just unfortunate for me. Moreover, amongst the majority of boxes on wheels these days, the MG is probably the ugliest car I've ever seen. There you go. Takes all kinds of people to make the world. 😊

    • @haoruchen4216
      @haoruchen4216 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hate the MG4 rear it’s offensive to me visually 😂😂😂 I love the curvy front and smart rear just brilliant. It’s the new bug ev it will have its place in auto history. Dude mark my words

    • @haoruchen4216
      @haoruchen4216 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course I love all three ORA.

  • @andrzejpl9897
    @andrzejpl9897 ปีที่แล้ว

    So doesn’t come with shaver ?

  • @clivehoward8861
    @clivehoward8861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well - now in Feb 2024 - no deposit £179.99 @ 5,000 miles for 2 years leased.

  • @Petelmrg
    @Petelmrg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Given that it is fairly similar in size to the MG4/id3 where did they lose the boot space?

    • @CaiSpidox
      @CaiSpidox ปีที่แล้ว

      Rear passenger space. He put that front chair all the way back and still had legroom.

    • @Petelmrg
      @Petelmrg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CaiSpidox - there’s plenty of legroom in an id3 and MG4; that boot is the smallest of any car in its class.

    • @CaiSpidox
      @CaiSpidox ปีที่แล้ว

      @petelmrg hubert not saying there isn't, but there is even more in the cat in comparison.
      The fact my tall friend could drive and sit behind himself in a cat shows where the space has been utilised.

  • @keithreynolds
    @keithreynolds ปีที่แล้ว

    Does locking glovebox suggest their might be a cabrio on the way?

    • @Dreadpirateflappy
      @Dreadpirateflappy ปีที่แล้ว

      My B class had a locking glove box. doesn't mean anything.

  • @rogerbrand6214
    @rogerbrand6214 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not quite what I need, but it is something I really like.
    Can I get my Ioniq funded up?

  • @MrSunnyBhoy
    @MrSunnyBhoy ปีที่แล้ว

    Very funky looking car 👍🏾

  • @michaelhelliwell5454
    @michaelhelliwell5454 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi what’s your octopus referral code I might us it next year

  • @theguv1521
    @theguv1521 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't believe the UK price. Has it dropped in the 11 months since this video was made? We are in New Zealand and a friend purchased one, same model and specs, last Saturday for $NZ 37,000 that is £18,000 There is a soon to be scrapped, by our new incoming government, rebate of $NZ 7,000. So with out that $NZ 44,000 or £21,000 going forward.

  • @tooflesstesla
    @tooflesstesla ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good review. Although I did initially think the Ora Cat would have been targeted toward the cheaper end of the market. Storage space is horrendous and there should at least be a frunk! 😅

  • @yetufekci1
    @yetufekci1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting to see Harry for the glove box test😄

  • @bobmuir5811
    @bobmuir5811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of a kia soul. Short and tall with small boot.

  • @kentonian
    @kentonian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Does it know if you have covid and then lock you inside for a week?

    • @michaelheadley2041
      @michaelheadley2041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh ปีที่แล้ว

      Given the reappearance of covid cases in China, it may come with a dose of covid in the glovebox, or possibly via a downloadable app or something......

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว

      D'you know - that was nearly funny...... !
      Nearly...

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video mate

  • @animationcreations42
    @animationcreations42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the front it's a Porsche, from the side it's a Micra, and from the back it's a lightless leaf

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERYONE tries to do this with EVERY new car!
      We all try to find patterns and recognisable shapes etc...
      Personally, it mostly reminds me of a 'Funky Cat'.....!

  • @HT-io1eg
    @HT-io1eg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beetle/mini thing from the front

  • @davidmccarthy6061
    @davidmccarthy6061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to get one in the US.

  • @senortrowell
    @senortrowell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems funky

  • @SteYoung
    @SteYoung ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A premium car this size should be £40k to £50k?????? Really??. That motor shouldnt be a whiff over £21k . I cant believe this is on its way to £35k. Goodness me. EV inflation is something else! (heres looking at you too Volvo EX90! 🤪)

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it naive in the extreme to talk about what cars 'should' cost.....!?

    • @SteYoung
      @SteYoung ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andymccabe6712 No.

  • @Kosh42EFG
    @Kosh42EFG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At £25k it'd sell in bucket loads. At that price, no a little too much.

  • @mcdon2401
    @mcdon2401 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a bad looking wee thing, quite like it. Not the car for me, I'll stick with my ZS, but I can see it being quite popular for those who would go for the likes of Fiat or Smart, maybe even the Vauxhall Adam.

  • @R08Tam
    @R08Tam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the style of this car, it looks really classy. It's not practical for my camping lifestyle, hence I drive an MG5. But I really like the vibe. Oh, and I've never been a badge snob or fallen for the myth of German build quality.

  • @TassieEV
    @TassieEV ปีที่แล้ว

    Well after watching your other video about taxes coming on in 2025 this car is excluded from the Luxury Car Tax then as it's under the 40k mark. The charging could definitely be better at 65kW that is not great the MG ZS & BYD Atto3 are both higher with the Atto3 at 90kW peak as witnessed by owners.

  • @David-bl1bt
    @David-bl1bt ปีที่แล้ว

    That indicator noise sounds like a "clicker" from a Christmas cracker. It would drive me nuts.

  • @garyayres4404
    @garyayres4404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Far too expensive with a Sales Prevention Officer naming it “Funky” and No choice as to Models with a reasonable range, base model only available in the U.K. Dealers making far too much margin as they are £15k in China- typical. MG4 is a reasonable alternative.