We cross shopped these 3 last year and it was amazing how different the were to each other, loved the sportiness of the MG but the silly jutting out console really cut into my legroom, also rear vision was the worst of the 3. The dolphin has the best battery and equipment but was too narrow and cramped in the back seat. Ended up with the Ora as it seemed the roomiest and most comfortable for driver and passengers, also feels like the mini technicians had something to do with the handling and acceleration feel as it has a strong resemblance to my mini in feel.
I have some great marine animal names ready to go for BYD. What about the BYD Sea Slug? Or the BYD Hagfish, BYD Toadfish or BYD Lumpsucker? I have more.
I own a dolphin and chose this over the MG4 due to the dealer back up and reliability after joining some forums. I previously driven mg4 cupra born and niro as company cars and much prefer the dolphin. As soon as I got it the tyres were switched to hankooks and it drove like a different car with virtually no wheel spin. Oh and I achieved 6.2 to 60 on cold 5 degrees weather so really happy!!!
In your dreams with almost no wheel spin, stop the BS! My very old RIP 80kw Nissan leaf that had 215 width tyres would spin with any brand of tyres, and your Dolphin has 150kw and 310nm with 205 tyres they will spin just as bad as your Linglong that actually are sold in Australia and are a good quality tyre!
I picked the MG4 for it's 50/50 weight distribution and RWD, I didn't want to sing karaoke in the car, but wanted a car that was reassuring on a windy country road.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3byou can get it for 38+ ORC. Say whatever you want but even Mazda 3 and Corolla hybrids are getting up there in price these days. These are all cheaper to own than the Mazda 3 G25 GT these days
At the moment, in Victoria, you can buy an Ora for Victoria: $38,583. This car is well made, it has a lot of features and will last for many years being electric with an LFP battery. Yes, you can buy an MG3 for $19K drive away and if one is only looking at the money it is a good deal.
@@FalkinerTim Yes, GWM has reduced the Ora retail price by $4k in order to clear 2023 stock. However, there is still a $7k difference between the Ora and a conventional petrol economy car such as a Toyota Corolla or a Mazda 3. It costs $1100 to run an economy petrol car per year, so the Ora breaks even after only 6 years. And this assumes the EV driver has home solar. Most new car owners do not keep their cars for 5 years, let alone 6 years, so the longevity aspect of an EV is rather redundant. As soon as these economy EVs can be had for $30k drive away then petrol cars will become totally pointless and obsolete. But, the car market is just not there yet.
I've got 3 cars. Each has a different purpose for the right stalk. Gear selector, turn signals, or wipers. When switching between cars it can be frustrating as I always keep making mistakes. Nothing serious happens but the lack of standardization is just ridiculous. I'm obviously not a fan of these varied controls on stalks.
We looked at these 3 a few months ago, perhaps with a slightly different perspective. We are both in our 70’s and I am 6’4” tall. From our point of view we liked the MG4 Excite, but it felt too dark inside, black headlining, black upholstery etc, also too low to the ground. Driving it however was very good as long as I had assistance getting out. The Dolphin also had black headlining and the low glass roof seemed too close to my head to be comfortable. Also with both of us in the front seat we felt cramped. No test drive as the sales people weren’t interested in us old farts 😂. The Ora on the other hand felt roomy, had light coloured headlining and it seemed to be our best fit. However again the sales people were not interested in talking to us as they were too busy signing up Tank300 sales. I had a chance to drive the MG4 again as another family member wanted to buy one, and the MG sales people were the best to deal with, and so they got the sale. Me, I bought a diesel dual cab ute and we are enjoying the room.
You didn't mention anything about some of the basic features the MG Excite, I believe does not have compared to the base Dolphin/Ora. I.E. No wireless charger, no blind spot detection, cross traffic alert, lane change assist, electric folding mirrors, 360 deg. camera, leather steering wheel, electric leather seats. Some of these features are a must these days.
To be fair, the top spec also does not have leather seats. They are vinyl with no ventilation, also no app support so no can turn on the AC to keep the interior cool
Ora has a simplicity touch and funky European taste when gwm engage European expert to design for it. I think it's good except the car boot is smaller.
As at Dec23 best new EV under 50k driveaway was the BYD Seal Dynamic. On road costs have pushed it over 50k now thou😢. The 2nd hand market is still hot and my guess will be for another 3 years. Petrol at $3.50 a litre just won't help. Just a prediction.
When future new EVs can be had in Australia for $30k drive way, this will kill the new petrol car market. But, at $47k these ‘economy EVs’ are just not financially viable when compared to petrol cars which cost only $30k.
It's an EV. Just the battery alone costs more than equivalent ICE car. You are right a regular corolla is cheaper but this is time for early adopters of new technology
@@LocoPoco-bp5sx The early adopters are essentially paying an additional $17k premium for doing so. A Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3 can be had for only $30k.
To me, without a doubt the MG 4 Excite is my pick. I can't ignore its same rear suspension as you can get on Long Range Essence 72 and X-Power. Too hard for me to avoid rear multi-link suspension as I've experience many benefits with independent suspensions.
"Ora is like a Beetle, BYD is like a Jazz, MG4 is like a Corolla". And yet VW, Honda and Toyota are MIA when it comes to EVs. I'm gonna put them on my bankruptcy bingo card
Honda is already there, they're one of the worst selling car brands in Australia. Toyota is still quite strong even without an EV. Honda and Nissan are two brands that are on course to exit the Australian market because they both suck and aren't selling any cars
19:50 Because Ora is a brand, not a name of the car. This one is Ora Good Cat or Funky Cat as an export version. But there are also Ora Lightning Cat and Ora Ballet Cat.
That's true of overseas markets, where GWM operates as a parent company and has seperate brands for its Ora, Tank and Haval divisions, but after setting up that way in Australia, GWM has reorganised itself so that GWM is the brand with multiple models from Ora, Haval and Tank. So, the Ora Funky Cat overseas is sold as the GWM Ora here. The Lightning Cat in under consideration for Australia too, though not confirmed, ad will likely be sold as the GWM Ora Sport if it comes here.
@@vasil7410 that I didn't know. Thanks! Personally, I quite like it. I mean, I wish I have a deal performance but I don't. But if I did, I would find putting stuff in the boot inspirational. Bit like a daily slogan. Of course the seal doesnt have build your dreams anymore...
With the Federal Government EV Incentives I took out a Novated Lease with an MG4 on a competitive finance rate for LESS than the equivalent ICE Corolla. For my use case (2nd car with commuting to work 2 days a week) it was a no brainer. If you work and are in the market for a new car definitely investigate it for yourself. If I was to purchase it outright I’m not on the ‘EV at all costs’ bandwagon and would have stuck with an ICE.
Is it just me, or does the Ora look like one of those toy cars that had a spring in them so when you pulled them back a few centimeters, they'd race forward?
Saying the MG4 is like the Corolla of the group is right. It’s low to the ground, awkward to get in and out the front, the driver space is less than my Clio. and the rear is really tight to get in and out from, the rear seat is too far forward to get boot length and fit the drive train underneath, and the door is big enough but the seat blocks access. I’m 6’2” around your height, did your knee end up leaning against the edges of the front console? I liked the look and walked away disappointed.
Shopping. That's not a bad idea. Forget litres: I think if my mum was watching a video like this, she'd want to see how much (and what kind of) shopping went in the boot, and which seats were the squishiest. I'd like to see reviewers actually put some shopping in the boot and try to get kids and adults in the car.
To be fair the Dolphin is both FWD and the tyres are very narrow just 195 with the fairly powerful 150kw and 310nm torque so of course any tyre compond will struggle to get grip.
@waynehooton6154 Well, my 2014 RIP Nissan Leaf with just 80kw had 215, and I used to spin the tyres on that EV. The MG4 is less torque and less power than the Dolphin, yet it has 215 for the Excite up to 235 on the Essence.
@peterarmstrong3853 And yet Linglong are sold is Australia and are regarded as a quality Chinese made tyre. But you lot criticise Chinese tyres but not a Chinese EV?
@@gregb1599 I know price is not always a good judge of quality but I worry that I'm not getting a decent tyre with the linglongs based on the $80 or so bucks these cost
Why your MG4 looks different than these from Europe? Is there some difference due to regions or is it some new model? I'm pretty sure we have map pocket and hidden compartment in boot and a little different tray for phone?
Those are different versions. The Luxury (not available in all country's), Trophy and XPower version do have them. From the outside you can very quickly see which version it is because the more expensive models have the twin spoiler at the top and a full led light bar at the rear.
@@DatNooit I mean, I know that they from outside can be different basing on car version, but inside. All versions of MG4 here have pocket compartments and separated trunk
There is no bargain price evs As soon as you drive it off the dealership lot Depreciation drops like a stone Just ask Herz the vehicle hire company how much thier fleet of almost 200,000 evs and Hybrids are worth after 2 years ?
Hertz in Australia bought very few electric cars. Last I checked they are doing ok because the renters aren’t trashing them. No ride share gorillas need apply
These EVs are not cost effective considering the drive away cost appears to be about $47k. The only exception to this is if a driver drives a lot as the EV would eliminate the dramatically higher petrol and engine maintenance costs. If the retail costs for these EVs were similar to petrol cars like the Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3, then there would be no comparison as the EV would be a blindingly obvious rational choice. But, this is just not the case.
IF you can lease, a ~$40k EV = a $20k ICE due to Australian FBT discounts. And if you can charge at home, electricity is about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of liquid fuel for same driving distance. So there are some IFs in there, but they'd work out cheaper for many.
@@Mububban23 For ordinary private purchasers who are paying cash or financing their new car purchase, the $17k price split between petrol and EV is undeniable and cannot be overcome, the difference is just too stark. No matter which way you slice and dice the financial proposition, a $47k EV is just not an objectively economy car at all. Even if the prospective EV drivers has home solar and battery storage which results with zero EV energy costs. There is one aspect where petrol cars will be increasingly uncompetitive as the years progresses: depreciation. Petrol cars will be worth next to nothing come the 2030, as by then $30k and even $20k EVs will be ubiquitous in the new car market. Only moron would insist on buying a brand new car in 2030.
@@Mububban23 A petrol Toyota RAV4 costs about $17 per 100km to fuel and maintain. A Tesla Model Y only costs $3.50 for the same distance. The Tesla only costs 20% of the RAV4 cost with this metric. For those with home solar and battery storage, the costs are reduced to zero. This explains why the Tesla Model Y was the best selling privately purchased car in Australia for 2023.
Have not and will not ever spend more than $27000 for a vehicle no EV in my future but the cars I have don’t need to be replaced so maybe I might live long enough to wear out any of the 3 cars I have.
I really don't think $40,000 is a cheap car considering the 5 to 7 year higher purchases contract to buy it ,after that time the battery is at its use buy date , sorry never will buy one to limiting to most people life styles.
The drive away price for these ‘economy’ EVs is more like $47k, so are uncompetitive with traditional petrol cars which can be had for $30k. The battery packs will most certainly last for the life of the EV. There are older Tesla Model 3s around the world which have travelled 500,000km and 600,000km and are still utilising their original factory battery packs.
Toyota reliability is just a myth. With poor maintenance, the engine and transmission will fail in good time. Moreover, a good number of new Toyota cars do experience premature engine and transmission failures due to manufacturing defects. Toyota does not make 100% defect free cars 100% of the time. This is impossible.
Toyota DPF. They sued people then lost. The ACCC fined them for misleading and anti consumer conduct. Toyota appealed and lost. Toyota select telematics being sold with the car then years later attempting to hit the current owners with subscription fees for something that came with the car. Using Toyota Select to spy on car owners including selling the data to third parties, breaking not only the law but their own policies. Then getting caught and fined for that. Daihatsu, a wholly owned subsidiary of Toyota getting caught for falsifying safety test records for 38 years. Fuso truck wheels falling off and killing bystanders. And you want to talk smack about reliability. It’s a distraction
These EVs are not cost effective considering the drive away cost appears to be about $47k. The only exception to this is if a driver drives a lot as the EV would eliminate the dramatically higher petrol and engine maintenance costs. If the retail costs for these EVs were similar to petrol cars like the Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3, then there would be no comparison as the EV would be a far more rational choice. But, this is just not the case.
@@Clove_Parma Bullshit. The financial realities of EVs are fundamental, self-evident and beyond dispute. A $47k EV is just not a true ‘economy car’ no matter which way you slice and dice the financial proposition. You cannot add.
What is the source of this claim? A Volvo XC40 petrol T4 variant costs $1200 per year to service. AFAIK the Volvo XC40 and C40 electric are on the same schedule but nobody can tell me why it’s also the same price. The MG4 has a service interval of two years and 40,000 at about $300 per visit (not per year). Given the only used vehicles regularly coming up for resale or repair are Tesla and Nissan, there isn’t enough data to say what other newer models will sell for in 5/10/15 years time. Again where are you getting the data for this claim from because I am looking at used Tesla prices on car sales weekly and the prices are not going down. The Leaf prices are going down then back up, tracking with the retail price of petrol
@@Clove_Parma The price difference between these ‘economy’ EVs and a Toyota Corolla or a Mazda 3 is $17k. This is a significant amount of money for most car buyers at the budget end of the market which just cannot be ignored.
We brought a Kia EV6 GT Line here in NZ brand new it costs $112,000 plus ORC. Our one had a factory towbar $1800, and the so-called premium paint $1450 extra, so with everything added . We paid $88k, so it's lost $28,550 off the new price! And that was from a dealer, so imagine how much that owner lost!
Why do people bother about resale on cars, want resale buy a property. I have been driving peugeots, fords, volkswagens, neither of these has any resale values
the NISSAN LEAF ZE1 is available as JDM import five years old from $26k which is by far the Most: Reliable, Best Looking, Long lasting, highest build quality, best value, cheapest EV on Australian Roads - NISSAN is only brand to NEVER have a EV Battery Fire incident which makes the LEAF the SAFEST EV in the world Your all FOOLS for even thinking about Chinese made LEMONS that will all explode ! sine all Chinese EV Brands have been catching on fire for no reason!
all these Chinese EVs are NOT as good in any way as a NISSAN LEAF ZE1 second gen which has more power motor more torque and more fun to drive and ten times better looking and will last 50 years unlike Chinese junk will only last until warranty is over
Bullshit. Chinese EVs are very safe. Tesla would not rely on Chinese CATL for their battery packs, much less manufacture Tesla EVs in China at all if the reality was otherwise. Moreover, the Australian Government would not allow Chinese EVs to be imported into Australia if they were inherently unsafe. There are many, many tens of thousands of Chinese made EVs in commission on Australian roads. Where are the these Chinese EV fires in Australia that you speak of? Buying a Nissan Leaf as a grey import is just not for most Australian consumers who insist on the security and reassurance of having guaranteed support from Nissan Australia. Simply put, most Australians are indifferent to JDM cars. Perhaps you were not around at the time, but, as recently as the 1990s there was still a perception by a good many of Australian drivers that Japanese cars were of dubious quality. Nobody has these views today in the 2020s. Similarly, as the years progress, the negative _perceptions_ that some Australians have of Chinese cars will eventually fade away.
@@theairstig9164 The Nissan Leaf is a great car… for the comparatively few out and out Leaf fanatics. But, not for the mass Australian new car market. How can you expect the Leaf to be taken seriously in Australia with a car name of Leaf, it is just too woke sounding. Nissan only sells a notional number of new Leafs in any given month. But, as we all know, the Tesla Model Y was the best selling privately purchased new car in Australia for 2023. The entire Japanese car industry is a proverbial dumpster fire, as the Japanese are morons for denying the EV revolution that is underway. Mazda will be the first marque to go. th-cam.com/video/xwmdtyWgQdw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4u-gxatvRropNAu9
Just bought a BYD Seal Dynamic, with Queensland rebate it cost me $45000 drive away!
We cross shopped these 3 last year and it was amazing how different the were to each other, loved the sportiness of the MG but the silly jutting out console really cut into my legroom, also rear vision was the worst of the 3.
The dolphin has the best battery and equipment but was too narrow and cramped in the back seat.
Ended up with the Ora as it seemed the roomiest and most comfortable for driver and passengers, also feels like the mini technicians had something to do with the handling and acceleration feel as it has a strong resemblance to my mini in feel.
Sorry about your freezing and black screen in your ORA
The Ora actually under pins the new mini electric
Seems like objectively the best decision amongst these three. When you examine the spec sheets, vs subjective feelings.
This is a great comment. Thanks for sharing! Also cross-shopping between the 3 and leaning towards the Ora at the moment.
dolphin is a great name. We all love dolphins. No reason why we shouldn't like cars called dolphin. I like it. More animal names
byd fanboy😂
I have some great marine animal names ready to go for BYD. What about the BYD Sea Slug? Or the BYD Hagfish, BYD Toadfish or BYD Lumpsucker? I have more.
@@kevinwang6147 The video was done by an MG Fanboy, so why not
I own a dolphin and chose this over the MG4 due to the dealer back up and reliability after joining some forums. I previously driven mg4 cupra born and niro as company cars and much prefer the dolphin. As soon as I got it the tyres were switched to hankooks and it drove like a different car with virtually no wheel spin. Oh and I achieved 6.2 to 60 on cold 5 degrees weather so really happy!!!
R u serious? 6.2 seconds
The official time is only around 7 seconds
In your dreams with almost no wheel spin, stop the BS! My very old RIP 80kw Nissan leaf that had 215 width tyres would spin with any brand of tyres, and your Dolphin has 150kw and 310nm with 205 tyres they will spin just as bad as your Linglong that actually are sold in Australia and are a good quality tyre!
How about the handling?
@@renbangbprd7236 perfect!
@@gregb1599 clearly you haven't been in the car with me 👍 I will let you dream about the leaf 😂
I picked the MG4 for it's 50/50 weight distribution and RWD, I didn't want to sing karaoke in the car, but wanted a car that was reassuring on a windy country road.
Audio is cheap enough to replace with a decent one but 50/50 and RWD is just so good
AUD $47k for a compact car is outrageously steep. These are just economy EVs, nothing more.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3byou can get it for 38+ ORC. Say whatever you want but even Mazda 3 and Corolla hybrids are getting up there in price these days. These are all cheaper to own than the Mazda 3 G25 GT these days
At the moment, in Victoria, you can buy an Ora for Victoria: $38,583. This car is well made, it has a lot of features and will last for many years being electric with an LFP battery. Yes, you can buy an MG3 for $19K drive away and if one is only looking at the money it is a good deal.
@@FalkinerTim Yes, GWM has reduced the Ora retail price by $4k in order to clear 2023 stock. However, there is still a $7k difference between the Ora and a conventional petrol economy car such as a Toyota Corolla or a Mazda 3. It costs $1100 to run an economy petrol car per year, so the Ora breaks even after only 6 years. And this assumes the EV driver has home solar. Most new car owners do not keep their cars for 5 years, let alone 6 years, so the longevity aspect of an EV is rather redundant.
As soon as these economy EVs can be had for $30k drive away then petrol cars will become totally pointless and obsolete. But, the car market is just not there yet.
The BYD is the only one with the Indicator stalk on the right hand side of the steering wheel which is where it should be. 👍
I've got 3 cars. Each has a different purpose for the right stalk. Gear selector, turn signals, or wipers. When switching between cars it can be frustrating as I always keep making mistakes. Nothing serious happens but the lack of standardization is just ridiculous. I'm obviously not a fan of these varied controls on stalks.
👍
That's a surprisingly important issue
We looked at these 3 a few months ago, perhaps with a slightly different perspective. We are both in our 70’s and I am 6’4” tall. From our point of view we liked the MG4 Excite, but it felt too dark inside, black headlining, black upholstery etc, also too low to the ground. Driving it however was very good as long as I had assistance getting out.
The Dolphin also had black headlining and the low glass roof seemed too close to my head to be comfortable. Also with both of us in the front seat we felt cramped. No test drive as the sales people weren’t interested in us old farts 😂.
The Ora on the other hand felt roomy, had light coloured headlining and it seemed to be our best fit. However again the sales people were not interested in talking to us as they were too busy signing up Tank300 sales.
I had a chance to drive the MG4 again as another family member wanted to buy one, and the MG sales people were the best to deal with, and so they got the sale.
Me, I bought a diesel dual cab ute and we are enjoying the room.
Yup sometimes the specs dont matter.
You didn't mention anything about some of the basic features the MG Excite, I believe does not have compared to the base Dolphin/Ora. I.E. No wireless charger, no blind spot detection, cross traffic alert, lane change assist, electric folding mirrors, 360 deg. camera, leather steering wheel, electric leather seats. Some of these features are a must these days.
To be fair, the top spec also does not have leather seats. They are vinyl with no ventilation, also no app support so no can turn on the AC to keep the interior cool
You forgot a key point, no rear speakers at all unless you step up to the Essence or higher, only front row gets speakers in the MG4 in the excite
Pretty sure the 2024 MG4 Elite has most of those safety features. Not electric leather seats,
One of the most informative review on EV,s. Thank you
I would go for the BYD Dolphin 👍
Ora has a simplicity touch and funky European taste when gwm engage European expert to design for it. I think it's good except the car boot is smaller.
BYD actually stands for Biyadi named after Yadi Rd in China. It's a bit like LG with their "Life's Good" but which was originally Lucky Goldstar.
i am curiuous. what is Yadi means??
@@jonitan76 Ya means noble and elegant. Di means enlightenment or guidance, implying wisdom.
@@kevinrich5222 thanks fyi
As at Dec23 best new EV under 50k driveaway was the BYD Seal Dynamic. On road costs have pushed it over 50k now thou😢. The 2nd hand market is still hot and my guess will be for another 3 years. Petrol at $3.50 a litre just won't help. Just a prediction.
When future new EVs can be had in Australia for $30k drive way, this will kill the new petrol car market. But, at $47k these ‘economy EVs’ are just not financially viable when compared to petrol cars which cost only $30k.
Where is petrol $3.50 a litre? k’Gari ?
Vote for MG4 for the looks, ride quality and RWD
$47k drive away for what is essentially an economy compact EV? Hard pass.
It's an EV. Just the battery alone costs more than equivalent ICE car. You are right a regular corolla is cheaper but this is time for early adopters of new technology
Funny, the MG4 doesn't look good to my eyes as does the black plastic interior.
@@LocoPoco-bp5sx The early adopters are essentially paying an additional $17k premium for doing so. A Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3 can be had for only $30k.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b you're not telling me anything new🤣 they are happy to do so & for teslas much more. it's about driving the future
The reviewer looked a bit tight in the back of the mg4
He mentioned that the Essence has better tech in the back, but nope, exactly the same 1 usb no fold down armrest.
I thought that he looked cramped and insisted that he had good legroom.
Yeah the thigh is hanging without support
To me, without a doubt the MG 4 Excite is my pick. I can't ignore its same rear suspension as you can get on Long Range Essence 72 and X-Power. Too hard for me to avoid rear multi-link suspension as I've experience many benefits with independent suspensions.
"Ora is like a Beetle, BYD is like a Jazz, MG4 is like a Corolla". And yet VW, Honda and Toyota are MIA when it comes to EVs. I'm gonna put them on my bankruptcy bingo card
Honda is already there, they're one of the worst selling car brands in Australia. Toyota is still quite strong even without an EV. Honda and Nissan are two brands that are on course to exit the Australian market because they both suck and aren't selling any cars
19:50 Because Ora is a brand, not a name of the car. This one is Ora Good Cat or Funky Cat as an export version. But there are also Ora Lightning Cat and Ora Ballet Cat.
That's true of overseas markets, where GWM operates as a parent company and has seperate brands for its Ora, Tank and Haval divisions, but after setting up that way in Australia, GWM has reorganised itself so that GWM is the brand with multiple models from Ora, Haval and Tank. So, the Ora Funky Cat overseas is sold as the GWM Ora here. The Lightning Cat in under consideration for Australia too, though not confirmed, ad will likely be sold as the GWM Ora Sport if it comes here.
BYD actually stands for Biyadi. But for some reason, BYD decided to use "build your dreams" in international markets.
Actually it stands for Biryani. Tasty!
Build Your Dreams is actually a slogan used in China too. Western markets hated it so they now only use BYD on cars for overseas markets.
@@vasil7410 that I didn't know. Thanks! Personally, I quite like it. I mean, I wish I have a deal performance but I don't. But if I did, I would find putting stuff in the boot inspirational. Bit like a daily slogan. Of course the seal doesnt have build your dreams anymore...
Should have been "Beyond Your Desires" 😅😂
@@wally9896 or...Become your desires? Be your desires? Buy your desire?
I think you're onto something my friend!
How come Australia get that lovely light blue colour for the Ora Funkycat/3? The UK just has black, white, dark green and red?
With the Federal Government EV Incentives I took out a Novated Lease with an MG4 on a competitive finance rate for LESS than the equivalent ICE Corolla.
For my use case (2nd car with commuting to work 2 days a week) it was a no brainer.
If you work and are in the market for a new car definitely investigate it for yourself.
If I was to purchase it outright I’m not on the ‘EV at all costs’ bandwagon and would have stuck with an ICE.
Is it just me, or does the Ora look like one of those toy cars that had a spring in them so when you pulled them back a few centimeters, they'd race forward?
great comparison review thanks.
Saying the MG4 is like the Corolla of the group is right. It’s low to the ground, awkward to get in and out the front, the driver space is less than my Clio. and the rear is really tight to get in and out from, the rear seat is too far forward to get boot length and fit the drive train underneath, and the door is big enough but the seat blocks access. I’m 6’2” around your height, did your knee end up leaning against the edges of the front console? I liked the look and walked away disappointed.
Shopping. That's not a bad idea. Forget litres: I think if my mum was watching a video like this, she'd want to see how much (and what kind of) shopping went in the boot, and which seats were the squishiest. I'd like to see reviewers actually put some shopping in the boot and try to get kids and adults in the car.
Literally looks so much more uncomfortable in the back of the MG4. He looked most comfortable (space wise) in the Dolphin, then Ora, then MG
Excite looks pretty solid
To be fair the Dolphin is both FWD and the tyres are very narrow just 195 with the fairly powerful 150kw and 310nm torque so of course any tyre compond will struggle to get grip.
They are 205 on the premium model
@waynehooton6154 Well, my 2014 RIP Nissan Leaf with just 80kw had 215, and I used to spin the tyres on that EV. The MG4 is less torque and less power than the Dolphin, yet it has 215 for the Excite up to 235 on the Essence.
Once those ling longs are replaced it's like a different car!
@peterarmstrong3853 And yet Linglong are sold is Australia and are regarded as a quality Chinese made tyre. But you lot criticise Chinese tyres but not a Chinese EV?
@@gregb1599 I know price is not always a good judge of quality but I worry that I'm not getting a decent tyre with the linglongs based on the $80 or so bucks these cost
The BYD Dolphin is the most modern and smoothest ride
Why your MG4 looks different than these from Europe?
Is there some difference due to regions or is it some new model?
I'm pretty sure we have map pocket and hidden compartment in boot and a little different tray for phone?
Those are different versions. The Luxury (not available in all country's), Trophy and XPower version do have them. From the outside you can very quickly see which version it is because the more expensive models have the twin spoiler at the top and a full led light bar at the rear.
@@DatNooit I mean, I know that they from outside can be different basing on car version, but inside. All versions of MG4 here have pocket compartments and separated trunk
Byd for me.
I rather push my Austin Metro, MGC GT & Morris Minor than hop into BYD Dolphin, MG4 & GWM Ora respectively.
Where is BYD seagull?
The BYD Seagull uses new sodium-ion batteries, which are not widely produced
Not sold in Australia
tbh, interior design of dolphin doesn't look like a budget car
The MG is too stiff in the suspension
Not for the LR it’s not. That is a plush ride bordering on under damped
There is no bargain price evs
As soon as you drive it off the dealership lot
Depreciation drops like a stone
Just ask Herz the vehicle hire company how much thier fleet of almost 200,000 evs and Hybrids are worth after 2 years ?
Hertz in Australia bought very few electric cars. Last I checked they are doing ok because the renters aren’t trashing them. No ride share gorillas need apply
3 beauties
These EVs are not cost effective considering the drive away cost appears to be about $47k. The only exception to this is if a driver drives a lot as the EV would eliminate the dramatically higher petrol and engine maintenance costs.
If the retail costs for these EVs were similar to petrol cars like the Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3, then there would be no comparison as the EV would be a blindingly obvious rational choice. But, this is just not the case.
IF you can lease, a ~$40k EV = a $20k ICE due to Australian FBT discounts. And if you can charge at home, electricity is about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of liquid fuel for same driving distance. So there are some IFs in there, but they'd work out cheaper for many.
@@Mububban23 For ordinary private purchasers who are paying cash or financing their new car purchase, the $17k price split between petrol and EV is undeniable and cannot be overcome, the difference is just too stark. No matter which way you slice and dice the financial proposition, a $47k EV is just not an objectively economy car at all. Even if the prospective EV drivers has home solar and battery storage which results with zero EV energy costs.
There is one aspect where petrol cars will be increasingly uncompetitive as the years progresses: depreciation. Petrol cars will be worth next to nothing come the 2030, as by then $30k and even $20k EVs will be ubiquitous in the new car market. Only moron would insist on buying a brand new car in 2030.
@@Mububban23 A petrol Toyota RAV4 costs about $17 per 100km to fuel and maintain. A Tesla Model Y only costs $3.50 for the same distance. The Tesla only costs 20% of the RAV4 cost with this metric. For those with home solar and battery storage, the costs are reduced to zero. This explains why the Tesla Model Y was the best selling privately purchased car in Australia for 2023.
Where's ID.3?
Not sold in Australia
Cupra is ID.3 made on a RHD specific assembly line in Spain. There is NO RHD assembly line for VW branded ID.3. There may never be one
@@theairstig9164 Ah so does Cupra sell in Australia?
Thank you China. Much appreciated
Have not and will not ever spend more than $27000 for a vehicle no EV in my future but the cars I have don’t need to be replaced so maybe I might live long enough to wear out any of the 3 cars I have.
You have a very valid point. $47k for an economy compact EV makes little financial sense for ordinary drivers.
They're still double the price of a small combustion engine hatch
No. Similar equipped petrol car with 150kW is going to be $40k plus.
You are doing a budget review, how about get the budget versions of the cars.. smh
Then comes the BUD Seagull
I really don't think $40,000 is a cheap car considering the 5 to 7 year higher purchases contract to buy it ,after that time the battery is at its use buy date , sorry never will buy one to limiting to most people life styles.
The drive away price for these ‘economy’ EVs is more like $47k, so are uncompetitive with traditional petrol cars which can be had for $30k.
The battery packs will most certainly last for the life of the EV. There are older Tesla Model 3s around the world which have travelled 500,000km and 600,000km and are still utilising their original factory battery packs.
Perfect for 90% of Australian's lifestyles....and unless you are 55 or over you will 100% drive an electric vehicle. Embrace progress.
There is definitely something fishy about that BYD.
Toyota is a bad analogy for MG considering the poor reliability.
Toyota reliability is just a myth. With poor maintenance, the engine and transmission will fail in good time. Moreover, a good number of new Toyota cars do experience premature engine and transmission failures due to manufacturing defects. Toyota does not make 100% defect free cars 100% of the time. This is impossible.
Toyota DPF. They sued people then lost. The ACCC fined them for misleading and anti consumer conduct. Toyota appealed and lost. Toyota select telematics being sold with the car then years later attempting to hit the current owners with subscription fees for something that came with the car. Using Toyota Select to spy on car owners including selling the data to third parties, breaking not only the law but their own policies. Then getting caught and fined for that.
Daihatsu, a wholly owned subsidiary of Toyota getting caught for falsifying safety test records for 38 years.
Fuso truck wheels falling off and killing bystanders.
And you want to talk smack about reliability. It’s a distraction
All 3 - China 🇨🇳 👍
MG was British tho 🇬🇧😂
these 3 EV cars are out of date in China, go China and figure out what they are driving now!
Won't be cost effective, when it comes to resale or repairs
These EVs are not cost effective considering the drive away cost appears to be about $47k. The only exception to this is if a driver drives a lot as the EV would eliminate the dramatically higher petrol and engine maintenance costs.
If the retail costs for these EVs were similar to petrol cars like the Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3, then there would be no comparison as the EV would be a far more rational choice. But, this is just not the case.
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@@Clove_Parma Bullshit. The financial realities of EVs are fundamental, self-evident and beyond dispute. A $47k EV is just not a true ‘economy car’ no matter which way you slice and dice the financial proposition. You cannot add.
What is the source of this claim? A Volvo XC40 petrol T4 variant costs $1200 per year to service. AFAIK the Volvo XC40 and C40 electric are on the same schedule but nobody can tell me why it’s also the same price. The MG4 has a service interval of two years and 40,000 at about $300 per visit (not per year). Given the only used vehicles regularly coming up for resale or repair are Tesla and Nissan, there isn’t enough data to say what other newer models will sell for in 5/10/15 years time. Again where are you getting the data for this claim from because I am looking at used Tesla prices on car sales weekly and the prices are not going down. The Leaf prices are going down then back up, tracking with the retail price of petrol
@@Clove_Parma The price difference between these ‘economy’ EVs and a Toyota Corolla or a Mazda 3 is $17k. This is a significant amount of money for most car buyers at the budget end of the market which just cannot be ignored.
Not sure aussies want to buy EV's rather are being forced to. Over priced and whats the resale value on evs . No one ever talks about it
We brought a Kia EV6 GT Line here in NZ brand new it costs $112,000 plus ORC. Our one had a factory towbar $1800, and the so-called premium paint $1450 extra, so with everything added . We paid $88k, so it's lost $28,550 off the new price! And that was from a dealer, so imagine how much that owner lost!
Why do people bother about resale on cars, want resale buy a property. I have been driving peugeots, fords, volkswagens, neither of these has any resale values
@@PsychedMedia Nope resale is also important when we want to change car
@@renbangbprd7236 it just means you actually cant afford the car in the first place if you need to rely on the resale for your next car.
House resale value would go up but car is the opposite down. It's better to do leasing according to car expert.
cost effective, which planet are you living on - should be under $25K
Affordable and 40k in the same meaning shows how out of touch ev people are.
Go drive an MG3 for a month. Then go buy a $40K base model Yaris
A minor league matchup that can never become a major league match.
No matter which one you choose, you choose Chinese car🤘
the NISSAN LEAF ZE1 is available as JDM import five years old from $26k which is by far the Most: Reliable, Best Looking, Long lasting, highest build quality, best value, cheapest EV on Australian Roads - NISSAN is only brand to NEVER have a EV Battery Fire incident which makes the LEAF the SAFEST EV in the world
Your all FOOLS for even thinking about Chinese made LEMONS that will all explode ! sine all Chinese EV Brands have been catching on fire for no reason!
all these Chinese EVs are NOT as good in any way as a NISSAN LEAF ZE1 second gen which has more power motor more torque and more fun to drive and ten times better looking and will last 50 years unlike Chinese junk will only last until warranty is over
Bullshit. Chinese EVs are very safe. Tesla would not rely on Chinese CATL for their battery packs, much less manufacture Tesla EVs in China at all if the reality was otherwise. Moreover, the Australian Government would not allow Chinese EVs to be imported into Australia if they were inherently unsafe. There are many, many tens of thousands of Chinese made EVs in commission on Australian roads. Where are the these Chinese EV fires in Australia that you speak of?
Buying a Nissan Leaf as a grey import is just not for most Australian consumers who insist on the security and reassurance of having guaranteed support from Nissan Australia. Simply put, most Australians are indifferent to JDM cars.
Perhaps you were not around at the time, but, as recently as the 1990s there was still a perception by a good many of Australian drivers that Japanese cars were of dubious quality. Nobody has these views today in the 2020s. Similarly, as the years progress, the negative _perceptions_ that some Australians have of Chinese cars will eventually fade away.
@@TimBorg Virtually all 2010s Nissan Leafs will be long scrapped by the time 2074 comes around. Neither of us will be around in 50 years time.
The Leaf is a great car. Nissan Motors Australia as an organisation is a bin fire
@@theairstig9164 The Nissan Leaf is a great car… for the comparatively few out and out Leaf fanatics. But, not for the mass Australian new car market. How can you expect the Leaf to be taken seriously in Australia with a car name of Leaf, it is just too woke sounding.
Nissan only sells a notional number of new Leafs in any given month. But, as we all know, the Tesla Model Y was the best selling privately purchased new car in Australia for 2023.
The entire Japanese car industry is a proverbial dumpster fire, as the Japanese are morons for denying the EV revolution that is underway. Mazda will be the first marque to go.
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Greatwall cars are rubbish
what GWM rubbish are you driving?