When ATC Says No: How to File an IFR Flight Plan in the Air

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  • @boogerwood
    @boogerwood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I pay for my own brakes. If I want to use the ENTIRE runway to land... I'm using the ENTIRE runway to land! Great video as always!

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks @boogerwood! I am not afraid to use runway for the sake of a smooth landing. That said, every so often I want to make sure I still got "it". Thanks for coming along!

  • @SteveSchanz
    @SteveSchanz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    100% absolutely love your videos. Well edited, great practical content. Hope you continue to release frequent videos.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. That is the plan, I appreciate the feedback and I hope you get something out of future videos.

  • @caiolinnertel8777
    @caiolinnertel8777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm retired Washington ARTCC (ZDC) controller, 12K hour ATP and fly my C414A in the NE a lot. It does help knowing both sides of the mic. Some controllers are very helpful others not so much but most do try to do a good job traffic permitting. I refused VFR to IFR very few times, even when busy, may take a bit of time but I normally could manage it even if I had to ask for help. Controllers do not take down search and rescue information so if that information has not been given to FSS then you'll still need to give that to the FSS. I would ask for that information so it's on the recording just in case but that's only because I was a pilot too. First video I've watched, nice job.

  • @GeezerGeekPilot
    @GeezerGeekPilot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice video on an important topic. As you mentioned early in the video, one option is to (1) request of Approach/Center a pop-up IFR clearance to destination. Downside of this, especially in busy airspace is the dreaded "unable (I'm too busy)". The option you demonstrate is (2) going off frequency to radio FSS and request for them to prepare and behind-the-scenes file, receive confirmaton from ATC. Downside is the off-frequency time (likely several minutes), which can be quite nerve-wracking, especially in high traffic areas. The option I prefer is demonstrated in the video linked below at 12:02 and is to (3) electronically file an IFR flight plan in-the-air from ForeFlight using my cell phone and then simply request of Approach/Center (at 13:55 in the video below) to pick up that clearance. I've had this work many many times even at 10,000+ AGL... after all, it's effectively a simple text message from ForeFlight to ATC (i.e. bypassing FSS). The upside is zero time off-frequency with Approach/Center. Wayne (DA40 KSBA)
    Here's the video demonstrating (3)... th-cam.com/video/xDb-C5ffICU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KNSx0pvkqtlFMbSD&t=722

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GeezerGeekPilot I will check that out. It’s interesting you have such reliable service. Unless I am right over a major metro area, I cannot send/receive texts. Thanks for coming along. Will you be at Oshkosh?

    • @GeezerGeekPilot
      @GeezerGeekPilot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFlyingSalesman, let me know how option (3) works for you. I expect ForeFlight tries a number of times to connect and send its short message. I'll not be at Oshkosh (not a fan of crowds 🙂). Keep up the good work on the videos.

    • @GeezerGeekPilot
      @GeezerGeekPilot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheFlyingSalesman, BTW, kudos to your friend and mentor Dickie... what an honor. Wayne

  • @peterg9466
    @peterg9466 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Matt, it's been many years since I filed a flight plan on the airwaves. I file off my iPad in flight when required. Needs iPad reception. Within a minute or so I am back to ATC to activate my IFR. When flying VFR sometimes ATC won't let me into the next airspace. I file IFR on the iPad and come straight back. Cheeky but it works. Like your content Matt. Cheers

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@peterg9466 that’s a good tip. I do not get good enough cell signal to rely on that though. Thanks for coming along!

  • @RusscanFLY
    @RusscanFLY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was amazing amazing! I have never seen that done before. Thank you so much for sharing! Very helpful.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks @@RusscanFLY I appreciate you coming along. Will you be at OSH?

    • @RusscanFLY
      @RusscanFLY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFlyingSalesman I would like to, but I hadn’t started my planning since I just purchased my own airplane. So I think I may hold off until next year!

  • @sagobhago
    @sagobhago หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just came across your video. Loved it. You just earned a subscriber Sir

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much! I am about to drop an update on the 210 later today and HOPEFULLY, will be back in the cockpit in the next week or two. Nevertheless, I appreciate the sub and I hope you enjoy the content. -TFS

  • @mktwatcher
    @mktwatcher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the detailed prep review and execution of an IFR flight. It was very helpful.

  • @diamondeyz6333
    @diamondeyz6333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video....thanks so much for walking us through that. Theoretically I knew how to do that, but have never actually done it. So much easier once you have seen it done by someone else . Thanks again!! DiamondEYZ

  • @munroeje
    @munroeje 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video! My new favorite channel. Will check in with you in Hangar A. Fly safe.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perfect! I want to hear more about your RV.

  • @rickreynolds1421
    @rickreynolds1421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another excellent video. Good review on filing in route with Flight Service. Thanks 👍👍

  • @mortonrobinson6408
    @mortonrobinson6408 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a🎉there is a clearance “IFR to VFR on top”, the converse also exists, namely, IFR to VFR underneath”. If you haven’t already taken advantage of it, it might come in handy someday. Take care,

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is this magic, please elaborate...

    • @mortonrobinson6408
      @mortonrobinson6408 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@TheFlyingSalesman simply ask a controller for an IFR descent through the clouds when you have a cloud deck beneath you. If the controller is reasonably sure, you will break out above his or her MSA, IT CAN BE DONE.

  • @billgalante1181
    @billgalante1181 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matt, very informative video, thanks for sharing, you are the consummate pilot.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@billgalante1181 thank you sir!

  • @johnniewilliams4741
    @johnniewilliams4741 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely amazing! Thank you! I believe you would make an excellent CFII.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! For now I have to settle with sharing some of the things I wish I had known 20 years ago. Thanks for coming along. -TFS

  • @lcmd7833
    @lcmd7833 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent practical videos. Thank you.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you like them! I appreciate you coming along.

  • @lee.schulz
    @lee.schulz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great and very informative video, sir! Thanks for sharing!
    -Lee

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful! Thanks for coming along! -TFS

    • @lee.schulz
      @lee.schulz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheFlyingSalesman , very timely as I’m in the throes of my IR checkride prep. Very much appreciated!!

  • @MashingAudio
    @MashingAudio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice! When I flew out of PBF its runways were 17/35. Never knew they changed them.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Magnetic north is constantly changing and each airport has to adjust runway headings once they are too far out of spec. Here is most likely WAY MORE detail than you were looking for... www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/airport-runway-names-shift-magnetic-field

  • @kylemc1979
    @kylemc1979 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video! I am an IFR student. I clicked Subscribe

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fantastic, thanks for coming along. What aircraft and avionics are you using in your training?

  • @shinc4054
    @shinc4054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks again 👍🏽

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You bet! I appreciate you sticking with me.

  • @mktwatcher
    @mktwatcher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Request:
    No offense but regarding camera angles, it would be more interesting to see your Instrument panel on IFR Approaches than simply seeing your profile from IAF to Final Approach. Please also keep the short 2nd Cam Clips of front view over engine cowling too. Thank you.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mktwatcher that is coming, I just have to tweak the mount.

    • @mktwatcher
      @mktwatcher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheFlyingSalesman Thank you, Look forward to the your resl IFR ride alongs being able to watch Instruments!

  • @747FoSophie
    @747FoSophie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember doing this once years ago. I'll be working when air venture is on.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@747FoSophie I have only needed it once myself, but when I needed it, I was glad I had the knowledge.

    • @747FoSophie
      @747FoSophie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFlyingSalesman We did it for the same reason, weather.

  • @Brianflys
    @Brianflys 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video with IFR procedures. Only tweak I would offer is the music at the takeoff sequence was a bit loud and distracting. Occasionally we hear music for a video intro title sequence, but I feel it doesn't add anything during the body of the video.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Brianflys I will keep that in mind. I appreciate the feedback.

  • @Twizlair
    @Twizlair 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet you never thought you'd hear this "a little less right rudder". Sorry couldn't help myself. On a serious note file on the ground (ipad) but leave it in filed status, when you hit your area for IFR, pick it up with a current location. Works so much better and way faster since its already holding in the system.

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Twizlair great tip! I will remember that. The intent of this is for those times when you get caught off guard. I like your plan though, I can see multiple scenarios where it can be used.

    • @Twizlair
      @Twizlair 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheFlyingSalesman 100% agree with intent of this video, and the info to file inflight was 100%, just cumbersome. Keep the greasy side down.

  • @johnc1456
    @johnc1456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a question… What gives you those callouts in the air? Are you getting them from Foreflight? I use Garmin Pilot and I don’t have that feature ( runway callouts etc.. where you always say thank you Glady)

    • @TheFlyingSalesman
      @TheFlyingSalesman  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnc1456 it’s in ForeFlight and I have the audio cable connected to my music jack on the panel.