I don't want to be that guy but that did nothing bactira don't live in water it lives on surfaces what you should have don't is put some of the fx4 sponge in the fx6 an the fx6 sponge in the fx4 50 50
Of course the bacteria is not in the aquarium water. But they are in the filter media… in the filter… Think about it Ringing out an old sponge into a new sponge absolutely will seed the new sponge with bacteria
@uncommonaquatics if u take the fx4 off an just leave that fx6 on with that water it's had it will have an amonia spike 100 percent so it was pointless
@L1D5TER27 I think this is such a good conversation that I’m going to record a full video about it. I think you’re missing the point First, the goal of seeding that new filter is to advance the timeline, So that it is doing full biological filtration in a few days instead of a few weeks. Second, about where the bacteria lives, ask yourself a question: what does bacteria eat? Because the bacteria, like any other living organism will be wherever its food is. That bacteria exist to break down detritus, so wherever the detritus is, that is where your beneficial bacteria is That disgusting, brown water that you gravel vac out from between your rocks could be used to seed a new aquarium to speed up the timeline on cycling it. Siphoning out that brown mulm is removing beneficial bacteria from your aquarium. Which is fine because you have more of that bacteria all over the tank, On all of the surfaces and in the filter. People still siphon out that mulm because too much of it leads to over abundance of nitrates at the end of the cycle. However if you have a heavily planted aquarium that needs those nitrates for food then you should not be gravel vacuuming. You want to leave all of that detritus in your tank as plant food. Moral of the story: nasty brown water is your friend
Dude, you are dope as hell. Exactly what I needed in my fish keeping journey. Fluval 15 gal all in one bowed was the first ever tank in my life at 33yr for my kids. My family will really appreciate you in 20 - 30 years. Cheers!
Howdy Brock! I must say I'm very impressed with those canister filters. My only experience with them decades ago was to rent one once a month to clean the tank and buff the water. Well done 🤠
I still think you should give pot scrubbers a shot for filter media. I haven't had to open my fx6 for 5 months and the flow is still strong. I have 2 big oscars and a bichir in that tank also so their turds are huge.
Yeap, I have a fx6 and fx4 on a 230 American cichlid tank. It is an overstock community tank. I have 4 Oscar in there with tank mates and the water stays clear all the time. I do weekly water changes though. I just like overstock tanks. Don’t mind putting in the maintenance work.
Nice video. But it ain't the King anymore. Check out the Aquael Hypermax 4500 (the base model). Not only is it powerful. But more importantly it takes far more media than an FX6. And almost as much as the old giant Eheim Classic 2260 but it has more flow and media compartments. And a pre-filter. Also has two oulets and inlet for better flow options. Easier to open and to access the impeller too.
@daviddenkers2772 Are you sure it's the base model without bluetooth or wifi? There are three versions. One with wifi and heating, one with bluetooth and the basic. Mega difference in prices between the different versions. Mine was 350 euros in Ireland. When I bought it the FX6 was around 340. I think they are around 350 or 400 Bucks in the US. Without discounts!
Same here. I got three of them for $160 apiece by getting up at 4 AM on Black Friday. Normal price is $400 but with the clarifier it’s $500 Only showed one of them in this video because I’ve got two more tanks to set up first
@uncommonaquatics Those Petsmart sales are crazy and also the way they let you combine different coupons etc. at other times of the year. We don't have stores like that here. Amazon is the only site that has big sales but they don't discount aquarium items much. Not their gig. I lived in the states years ago for five and a half years. But took a break from fishkeeping while I was there. But still checked out all the aquatic stores. It never fully leaves you!
I had an Fx 5 wich was a pretty good filter then I saw the eheim 2260 and Eheim 2262 in my opinion you can't even start to compare Fluval Fx series to these Monster canister filters
That's right. The Eheim filter has a volume of 4.7 gallons - 1085 cubic inches, no media trays/baskets, and collects a large volume of filter media. I replaced the pump on my Eheim with a pump with a higher flow rate and is much quieter.
@miroslavivanov7220 Yeah Eheim 2260 or 2262 are the real kings but they are not very popular pretty expensive and not readily available b/c of these reasons no many people know about them
I just installed a whole house uv water filter. Pretty bad ass. Been doing a lot of research on light. Please Be careful around that high intensity UV and I am definitely not the safety guy. !!!
@uncommonaquatics it lives on all of the surfaces, not just filter media. That's not my point. It will grow bacteria. You're not adding it to a new tank. You're adding it to a cycled tank. There's no need to seed it. It happens naturally.
Yes, it will eventually grow beneficial bacteria in the new filter. But why would you not want to speed that up? I want it to start cleaning my water now, not eventually once bacteria moves into the filter
It’s really a simple question. Do you want beneficial bacteria cleaning your water in the new filter today or in a few few weeks You have a colony in your other filter. The goal of adding a second filter is to have two colonies. I want those two colonies now, not weeks from now
Just change half Of te media and half Of the sponges from the old filter to the new filter ando add the water. Bacteria do not live in the water. Live in the sponges / media ,sand etc
Swapping sponges is great There are not large amounts of beneficial, bacteria, free swimming in the open water of your aquarium. That’s not the same as the water inside your filter that is full of waste that is being broken down. Your beneficial bacteria live wherever the food is. filter media is obviously a hot bed. So is the spaces between your gravel. When you wash your filters out, that nasty brown water that comes out is loaded with beneficial bacteria. If there is a decaying leaf or some fish waste in your aquarium, it’s covered in beneficial bacteria. Bacteria, like any other living creature go wherever the food is. By pouring in that brown water I didn’t just transfer bacteria, but also something for them to eat.
I don't want to be that guy but that did nothing bactira don't live in water it lives on surfaces what you should have don't is put some of the fx4 sponge in the fx6 an the fx6 sponge in the fx4 50 50
TH-camrs think they are very clever and smart, in this case he falls very short indeed. :D
Of course the bacteria is not in the aquarium water. But they are in the filter media… in the filter…
Think about it
Ringing out an old sponge into a new sponge absolutely will seed the new sponge with bacteria
@uncommonaquatics if u take the fx4 off an just leave that fx6 on with that water it's had it will have an amonia spike 100 percent so it was pointless
@L1D5TER27 I think this is such a good conversation that I’m going to record a full video about it. I think you’re missing the point
First, the goal of seeding that new filter is to advance the timeline, So that it is doing full biological filtration in a few days instead of a few weeks.
Second, about where the bacteria lives, ask yourself a question: what does bacteria eat? Because the bacteria, like any other living organism will be wherever its food is.
That bacteria exist to break down detritus, so wherever the detritus is, that is where your beneficial bacteria is
That disgusting, brown water that you gravel vac out from between your rocks could be used to seed a new aquarium to speed up the timeline on cycling it.
Siphoning out that brown mulm is removing beneficial bacteria from your aquarium. Which is fine because you have more of that bacteria all over the tank, On all of the surfaces and in the filter.
People still siphon out that mulm because too much of it leads to over abundance of nitrates at the end of the cycle. However if you have a heavily planted aquarium that needs those nitrates for food then you should not be gravel vacuuming. You want to leave all of that detritus in your tank as plant food.
Moral of the story: nasty brown water is your friend
@@uncommonaquatics there's 0 surface area in water
Dude, you are dope as hell. Exactly what I needed in my fish keeping journey. Fluval 15 gal all in one bowed was the first ever tank in my life at 33yr for my kids. My family will really appreciate you in 20 - 30 years. Cheers!
Thanks for watching. I love this hobby
Howdy Brock! I must say I'm very impressed with those canister filters. My only experience with them decades ago was to rent one once a month to clean the tank and buff the water. Well done 🤠
I have FX6 on my 75G love it spray bar is nice as well
Do you find it annoying to clean the impeller on these? I hate the idea of needing to get a screwdriver out just to clean my impeller.
I still think you should give pot scrubbers a shot for filter media. I haven't had to open my fx6 for 5 months and the flow is still strong. I have 2 big oscars and a bichir in that tank also so their turds are huge.
Just watching
What kind of UV filter do you have on your pond
It came with my pond kit. It’s built into the filter.
Yeap, I have a fx6 and fx4 on a 230 American cichlid tank. It is an overstock community tank. I have 4 Oscar in there with tank mates and the water stays clear all the time. I do weekly water changes though. I just like overstock tanks. Don’t mind putting in the maintenance work.
I’m with you
Nice video. But it ain't the King anymore.
Check out the Aquael Hypermax 4500 (the base model). Not only is it powerful. But more importantly it takes far more media than an FX6. And almost as much as the old giant Eheim Classic 2260 but it has more flow and media compartments. And a pre-filter. Also has two oulets and inlet for better flow options.
Easier to open and to access the impeller too.
Also costs $500, just got a new fx6 for $177.43 with petsmart sale
@daviddenkers2772 Are you sure it's the base model without bluetooth or wifi? There are three versions. One with wifi and heating, one with bluetooth and the basic. Mega difference in prices between the different versions.
Mine was 350 euros in Ireland. When I bought it the FX6 was around 340. I think they are around 350 or 400 Bucks in the US. Without discounts!
Same here. I got three of them for $160 apiece by getting up at 4 AM on Black Friday. Normal price is $400 but with the clarifier it’s $500
Only showed one of them in this video because I’ve got two more tanks to set up first
@uncommonaquatics Those Petsmart sales are crazy and also the way they let you combine different coupons etc. at other times of the year.
We don't have stores like that here. Amazon is the only site that has big sales but they don't discount aquarium items much. Not their gig.
I lived in the states years ago for five and a half years. But took a break from fishkeeping while I was there. But still checked out all the aquatic stores. It never fully leaves you!
@awilderireland same. I just came off of a break when we moved to this property. Now I’m all in
I would have swapped a media tray from fx4 and put it in the Fx6. Seeding it even faster.
I had an Fx 5 wich was a pretty good filter then I saw the eheim 2260 and Eheim 2262 in my opinion you can't even start to compare Fluval Fx series to these Monster canister filters
That's right. The Eheim filter has a volume of 4.7 gallons - 1085 cubic inches, no media trays/baskets, and collects a large volume of filter media. I replaced the pump on my Eheim with a pump with a higher flow rate and is much quieter.
@miroslavivanov7220 Yeah Eheim 2260 or 2262 are the real kings but they are not very popular pretty expensive and not readily available b/c of these reasons no many people know about them
@@aquariumhacksbymarcus5653 Yes, I assume that this is the case for your country. In my country I bought it for 360 euros with shipping.
My biggest issue is that the replaceable pumps are hard to come by, and a bit pricey.
If it wasn’t for all those screws just to open it…
I just installed a whole house uv water filter. Pretty bad ass. Been doing a lot of research on light. Please Be careful around that high intensity UV and I am definitely not the safety guy. !!!
I have that on my 40 gallons 😂breeder
Just watching This is not professional advice was just something that I think you should do
Why addold filter water to a filter you're adding to the same tank. It will start to seed as soon as water starts to run through it. 🤷🏾♂️
The beneficial bacteria do not live in the water that’s in the aquarium. They live in the filter media.
@uncommonaquatics it lives on all of the surfaces, not just filter media. That's not my point. It will grow bacteria. You're not adding it to a new tank. You're adding it to a cycled tank. There's no need to seed it. It happens naturally.
Yes, it will eventually grow beneficial bacteria in the new filter. But why would you not want to speed that up?
I want it to start cleaning my water now, not eventually once bacteria moves into the filter
@uncommonaquatics because that's no reason to. Unless you were adding it to a new tank.
It’s really a simple question. Do you want beneficial bacteria cleaning your water in the new filter today or in a few few weeks
You have a colony in your other filter. The goal of adding a second filter is to have two colonies. I want those two colonies now, not weeks from now
Another Black Friday victim. Lol
I paid $161 apiece for 3 Fluval FX6 filters
$161 for a $430 filter is pretty good. The other two are going on aquariums. I’m picking up this weekend.
Just change half Of te media and half Of the sponges from the old filter to the new filter ando add the water. Bacteria do not live in the water. Live in the sponges / media ,sand etc
Swapping sponges is great
There are not large amounts of beneficial, bacteria, free swimming in the open water of your aquarium. That’s not the same as the water inside your filter that is full of waste that is being broken down.
Your beneficial bacteria live wherever the food is. filter media is obviously a hot bed. So is the spaces between your gravel.
When you wash your filters out, that nasty brown water that comes out is loaded with beneficial bacteria.
If there is a decaying leaf or some fish waste in your aquarium, it’s covered in beneficial bacteria.
Bacteria, like any other living creature go wherever the food is. By pouring in that brown water I didn’t just transfer bacteria, but also something for them to eat.