@@viscountslappy5085 I don't have any experience with them, but they were very fast in turbo form. My grandmother had an old Cosmo I think that was a twin-rotor, and suffered from leaking seals. Having an RX-7 in such good condition is a conundrum because you could do a better rotary swap, but it's worth a lot original.
I think the looks are what makes it. The RX7 wouldn’t see which way the Skyline went on any road, but it’s an involving driving experience. The Skyline GTR’s can be a bit numb to drive given the amount of tech working behind the scenes, they’re a blunt instrument. Oh, and the Skyline doesn’t have popup headlights 😉
If you never seen an RX-7 in person, there is no flat surface on it, its very very elegant and will never age. If you ever driven a rotary, you will not believe how it revs. Its unreal, seamless and very satisfying.
It's up there with some early 60s Ferraris in my book. Just gorgeous, and I remember when they first came out. Just a stunning care, and WAY better looking than a 348 GTB... ahem...
Great revving engine the rotary's were but were thirsty, lacked torque, and longevity. This RX 7's style here is timeless but I think Mazda would've sold more of them if they didn't tune the suspension so harsh.
Our family loves the 240Z. We have two. I restored my fathers Z, two decades after he passed. It just layed dormant in our barn waiting for me to become old enough/talented enough to get it going. I cannot really put in to words what the car means to me.
I get it. It's something that has had me wondering for years: Why do some become attached to cars and others seem to have no connection at all? Even without the added meaning of a loved one having the car, some cars just pull at our hearts. And some people will only ever see them as appliances. Hard to fathom.
I understand entirely. I've had 4 Datsun Z's 1-240, 2-260's and a 280. Also had a 79 ZX, but thats a different car entirely. All Gen 1's were so simple, so amazing. The work-light mounted under the hood is such an iconic piece, I put them in all my modern vehicles!
I owned a 1975 280Z, and I'd still be driving it today if it hadn't been stolen. A great automobile on which I was able to perform most of the scheduled and unscheduled maintenance myself. Drove it coast-to-coast and north/south multiple times. I miss it still today.
I was literally just saying to my coworker,, "man, how cool would it be to be friends with Jay and be able to have a normal candid conversation with his like this.". He makes you feel welcome, like you're a part of the Convo too.
I'm a stagehand and he walked by me not too long ago backstage at something he was speaking at, I wanted to just go talk to him about steam cars but then I thought he has no idea who I am haha. I bet in a different environment he would be cool with talking about cars like a normal person, he seems really down to earth.
The FD is one of the most beautiful designs ever. I've had one for 26 years and I still love to look at it and drive it after 170,000 miles. Love this car.
@@modifiedcarcommunity5092 Mine was an early production. March of 92. Isn't it amazing the amount of attention a 30 year old car gets when you are out? I had a 10 year period when my son was young and I worked a lot that I didn't drive it much. Probably only 5K miles in that span. He's 14 now and wants to go out in it all the time and I work less. Life is pretty darn good.
@@rexseven93 Yes they do get a lot of attention I'd say my GT-R 32 got attention too but only from enthusiasts who knew what the car was. The RX7 on the hand is next level without a doubt when it comes to attention
Jay knows more about cars than every person in this entire comments thread combined. You all should(appropriate jokes aside) give him some latitude for being inaccurate by .4 liters. Jay has forgotten more about Nissan than any Gran Turismo junkie will ever know. He has has been a car enthusiast for longer than your parents have been alive.
@@Markbell73 all jokes aside, and I say this as a big Jay Leno fan, he makes a lot of mistakes in his videos. It feels like he is in decline. Hope I'm wrong but when a car guy doesn't know a 240Z is 2.4L and thinks a GTR is 3L and forgot it was a twin turbo, something is off. Not hating, it just doesn't sound right.
Couldn't disagree more. It would look amazing, but it wouldn't look new. It's way to clean, countoured and subtle to be a new car. No massive grill or vents, no angry shaped LED's and tacked on bodywork, no piano black plastic inside or outside, this list goes on.
@@Wallstreetavarice A friend I used to work with had a twin to that red RX7. It was a couple of years old when he bought it and it still looked new. Absolutely beautiful!! Unfortunately, I think you're right in that it wouldn't fit in today. What was perfect in the mid-90s would be too smooth to fit in with the modern designs. Most of the cars that I really liked up into the early 2000s have gotten so large and "bulgie" that I have no use for them. That's the reason that I drive a 2001 BMW 330xi instead of one 10 years newer. I doubt that the smaller, simpler designs will come back anytime soon. American, Japanese, Korean, European, it doesn't seem to matter much where it comes from. The styles have drifted too far.
The whole Japanese antique collector market makes me smile. I was an 'early adopter' of J-tin, and after a lifetime of being told, "Japanese cars will never be collectable..", it has finally happened. Seems like every kid who grew up in the back seat of their mom's Civic/Corolla/Sentra wants in. Thing that caught me by surprise, though was the JDM thing. I still recall when I quit racing SCCA in '95 (divorce, child support, yada yada yada). I was 33yrs old, but living in a POS apartment next to a college campus. Young guys next door are big videogamers. Playing GT2, astonished that a 'racing game' was now more than just an obstacle course. Actually became kind of like my methadone after I had to quit IRL racing. They're picking their fave cars from the virtual garage, I say, "You know that's a real car, right? They just never sold it in the US." I guess those younger folks are entering their 'prime earning years' now.
The 240Z was like a Swiss watch, mechanically speaking. Compared to other cars of that time, the engine idled smooth, ran smooth. It set itself apart from the competition. I loved my Z.
Jay may have thought they weren't worth the asking price.. As wealthy as he is, Jay is somewhat critical of the actual value and worth of the cars. He doesn't like to overpay unless it's super rare and exceptionally sought after. Sadly, 240z isn't one of those..
Always admire Mr. Osborne's deep knowledge and refined taste - but not too "fancy pants" to talk to us denim blue collar types! A real car guy and always a treat when you have him on the show!
Ah! Memories of my '87 RX-7. I drove it to work in the morning, then downtown to law school in the evening, and back home to Valencia. The car made my daily commute of 100 miles in L.A. traffic almost fun.
Great video, Jay and Don make a great team! I had a friend who wanted to buy a 240Z and when she found one I went with her to look it over. The engine sounded good, the body was in good shape but the interior was awful. It turns out the previous owner drove around with his dog, a Labrador Retriever, in the car all the time. The upholstery of the seats had bite marks, the floor looked like the dog had tried to dig his way out, and it was dirty and smelled. Well she bought the car, took it to an upholstery shop and paid a thousand bucks to have it all redone and made like new. It was worth it! It looked great and drove great and she kept the car for another six years before selling it for twenty grand, fifteen more then what she had paid for it!
I love the engine, and I'm sure they're fun to drive. But I never really liked them that much. My brother had one, and a girl I know who races had the S2000 and a NSX. Had nothing but problems with the NSX, but she held onto the S2000 a long time. Hers was white, and my brothers was silver. I feel like most of the ones I see are.
Values on S2000s are pretty flat with the exception of the CR models. I suspect that pristine low mileage examples will be very collectible over the next 5-25yrs, so definitely worth purchasing now if you want an investment you can (sparingly) enjoy.
@@trebm3 But I bet you don't know jack about the size of Packard engines, or steam engines, or pre-war custom coaches. This is common knowledge to JDM enthusiasts, but Jay has cars we've never even heard of. You can only remember so much!
Love Donald and Jay, both automobile icons! I am partial to the Datsun because I have a 370Z now days myself and it is by far the most favorite car I have ever owned in my 45 years of driving automobiles. It's ten years old and still looks, smells, and drives like a brand new car. The only thing I have ever had to do to it is routine maintenance, new tires, and brake pads, and that's it! Very fun car to drive. I doubt I will ever part with it. I've had more expensive cars that weren't nearly as fun and exciting to drive as my 370Z. It will be a future classic for sure. Even now, one of the best bargain sports cars on the used car market. I wouldn't say that about the new Z which is overpriced in my opinion. I remember when you could get used 240Z's for $800. My first Datsun was a B210 I paid $350 for used. My B210 was a fantastic little car that was super reliable (back in the day when cars weren't nearly as reliable as today's market), cheap on gas, and cheap on insurance! I also had a 1956 VW Beetle (small rear window) in high school that I could drive for two weeks on a grand total of $8 in gas! Fortunately for me my Dad was a mechanic and he loved small foreign cars of all types and had a lot of them. My Dad parents never had to worry about their son out there driving like a lunatic because my cars wouldn't go over 55 mph anyway! LOL Low horsepower, tiny little foreign cars, but they were really fun to drive and cheap on gas and insurance like I said. At least I was pretty much always mobile when I was younger. My Dad taught me how to drive on a VW Beetle when I was 13 years old. I had a paper route close to our house and he would let me drive it on my route early in the AM before anyone was out on the road going to work! LOL. It was a glorious time in my life and I have very fond memories of that era.
What a nice trio of cars. I did not know that a primo example of an RX7 or a 240Z would cost so much. My first car waaaay back was a 1974 Capri and I was thinking of getting a used Z. Oh well. These segments with Jay and Donald are pure gold.
I don't find the 240Z to be overexposed. They made a ton of them, sure, but like the first gen Miata (I have one, would love a first gen Z) I never get tired of looking at them.
@@dannysmith9882 It's amazing how big it looks when next to an original Elan. But yes, the steering is amazing on the 1st Gen Miata, Lotus like for sure. Lightweight too. Very Chapman-esque.
I loved the RX-7 growing up, my aunt & grandmother had one. Then f&f came out. Couldn’t wait till I was old enough to buy one. As I started looking, they where around 20-35k for near new. Now you can not find a good example under 60-70k. Another American dream burned.
Thank you ever so much Jay, your interactions with Donald Osborne are so good to watch. I lived through the introduction of all these cars and even owned a first gen RX7 (as well as several RX2s) and I owned a '71 240Z as well. (Along with a few 510s) I have driven several Skylines at track days as well. So I have some experience of all of them and I agree with your choice on the third gen RX7, but I surely do miss my Zed car.
The RX-7 aka FD3S chassis RX-7 is 1.3 liter in comparison. The horsepower Donald stated is incorrect, the real rating is 252 hp from factory. Jay mentioned that you couldn't really swap another motor in there because of size. That is not true, it is fairly common for people to swap to the Chevy LS V8 engine and there are a number of companies that make bolt-in kits. There is a huge amount of room under the hood. Being a rotary purist myself though, this is frowned upon swapping to a V8, as the soul of the car is the unique rotary engine which makes the car so balanced. I own two red RX-7s (a 1988 FC body Turbo II, and a 1999 FD3S Right hand drive JDM model) and also own a 1992 R32 Skyline GT-R in the same gunmetal color. Most of the R32 GT-Rs that were sold were in this color. Jay and Donald were both incorrect stating it's a 3.0 liter. It is a 2.6 liter inline 6 (the engine code is RB26DETT). The Toyota Supra TT was 3.0 liter. I don't think they realized that the GT-R is also all-wheel drive. The valuation is also incorrect, an R32 these days are not $120k. An R34 GT-R, sure, but an R32 GT-R can be had for $25k on the low end or $60k for a very nice one. Only the rare Nismo edition command a higher price at around $100k, but there are only around 500 of those cars ever made.
Love these guys bouncing the commentary off of each other. Donald's knowledge is obviously encyclopaedic, but in tandem with Jay's more irreverent but still technically spot-on comments, this is great stuff.
I was wondering something. If a 2000GT and Fairlady Z432 were in a race, which one would win? I heard that both of them cost a fortune, so I wondered which one had the edge.
@@Xuzuluwuku Thanks. So are you saying the Z432 was track only? I thought they were street legal. They just weren't common because they cost twice as much as a standard S30 Fairlady.
@@skylinefever in order for some cars to compete in certain races. The car manufacturer has to make a street legal version of that specific race car. In this case the Nissan Fairlady Z432 is the street legal of the race car. It's called Homologation. Subaru has the impreza 22b, Toyota Celica GT4, Ford RS200, BMW M3 GTR, Ford GT to name a few examples.
Really enjoy when you work with Sir Donald. He handles technical detail as well you and he frees you up to be more Jay Leno much in the same way as your work with other guest co-hosts. The difference is that yourve worked with him a lot, and he's comfortable in the role. I love ❤when you razz him and he loves it. More work with the Sir Donald. Like Carson and McMahon.
I myself have already been boycotting the show when the young boring schlocks are dumped in front of us on the east coast at times. Even their voices sound so uninterested and sleepy.
1970 Skyline GT-R, Toyota 2000GT, NA1/NA2 Honda NSX, Lancer EVO 5 Makkinen Edition, original Lexus LS400, mk1 Toyoya MR2, mk3 Honda Prelude, DC2 Integra Type R, Nissan Silvia's, Toyota Levin/Trueno, Lexus LFA, almost any Honda with a dash clock...etc etc, are all iconic as well. I've driven almost all of them, Japanese cars are amazing! 😊
What do you mean “you can’t pull this engine out and put something else in…” my 93 RX-7 has a built 5.7 LS-1 mated to a T-56 6-speed. A VERY popular swap for these cars. Same weight (+15 pounds). Wicked fast…..
Absolutely enjoy when Donald Osborne and Jay Leno get together! I will take the '93 RX7, an absolutely Beautiful and awesome perfoming Japanese Automobile.
I'm surprised that the R32's all-wheel drive system wasn't mentioned. Such a big part of what made "Godzilla" so dominant on the race track. No mention of V Spec 2. For the FD3, the Spirit R (final edition) would have been nice to see. Much more of a JDM rarity, & higher upside potential. And yes, I'm a bit of a JDM geek........
I really enjoy the two gentlemen discussing these great cars. I see Jay as a father figure as my father in law just passed away yesterday. Please Jay, start ramping up your content. Some of us just want to share your thoughts as we obviously can live vicariously through you. Appreciate the work.
Among these three sports cars, the Rotary powered Mazda RX7 is my favorite. I owned a second generation RX7 and would buy that car again. Not enough was said about Mazda tech and how they perfected the Wankel Rotory engine. This engine was originally a design that Wankel created and then tried to sell it to the car manufacturers of the day. There was no working model until Mazda dicided to use it in their sports car, the RX7. True, the Rotary engine could redline at 8000 or 9000. My experience driving an RX7 without a turbo charger was that it was docile to drive at under 4000 rpm’s. But once I put my foot in it, at over 45000 rpm’s and fourth gear - the car really took off! Researching the tech of the second generation RX7, I found out that the body had been designed to replicate the features of the Porsche 924, so it had a .32 drag co- efficient. It was a very stable and confidence inspiring car to drive at speeds over 100mph. The second generation RX7 got feuul injection, one of the reasons it was so fast. It also got a fully independent rear suspension, so it handled and turned well. The second generation RX7 had an almost 50/50 weight distribution because the engine so light and was set back so far. I still remember waiting at a stop light behind five or six cars on a two lane street. After the light changed, the cars had positioned themselves so that they were placed like rolling orange cones. I dropped down a gear in that RX7 and stomped on it, using those cars as pylons in a race course. What Fun! You also didn’t talk about the Mazda RX7’s racing history. The first and second generation RX7s won the 24 hour Lemans. And these weren’t factory teams. They were private race teams that received parts from Mazda. I would buy the second generation Rotary powered Mazda RX7 again. The Nissan Skyline GTR is legendary and a car I revere but can not afford to buy. Of these three cars the Datsun 240Z is my least favorite. I never liked the body style. “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” Some guys like blondes. Some guys like brunettes. Some guys like brunettes with long jet black hair and big dark brown Asian eyes. Back to the 240Z. I have come to appreciate it as the first Japanese sports car that opened up this market in America. I have come to appreciate its engine tech and reliability and its racing heritage. But from 1970-73, the GM Impalas, Chevelles, El Caminos, Corvettes and Buick Rivieras are still my favorite body styles of that era. Having owned a second generation Rotary powered Mazda RX7, I could never go back to a car that weighed over 2600 Lbs, that didn’t have a manual transmission, that wasn’t fun to drive, that wasn’t a sports car … a “Barchetta.”
The best two people on classic and collector cars back again. I enjoy these segments which is not unusual but my wife enjoys them to which is unbelievable.
Mazda RX 7 horsepower was 255 Not 236. That's the RX8 numbers. Donald Osborne has so many numbers to memorize I don't blame him. Just like Mr Leno forgot the 240Z was 2.4 litres. He knew that. Just so many numbers and other vehicles they keep in mind lol Crazy how they do it 🥰
In ‘79 I had a friend who owned a 240Z and we had so much fun tooling around in it! It was lime green, if I remember correctly! I can’t believe the values of this car…Great episode with these two car experts!
The value of them has exploded. 15 years ago they could be had for super cheap. Now, a non running very rough condition 240z is hard to find for less than $6k.
@@keithbuck1668 I bought my 71 240z in 2007 for $6k with 70k miles and in all original condition. It isn't concourse condition but close. Not that I would ever sell it but that's better than playing the stock market.
I had a 97 Mitsubishi Galant VR4 with 276hp and all wheel drive, in standard form, you wouldn't see which way I went. But otherwise FD RX7 is a classic.
Another great episode, no boring salesman with the latest supercar, just two Gents having a really interesting conversation about tree great classic cars. This is the way I prefer the show to be 😊
The Skyline has an rb26dett, that's a 2.6 liter not a 3 liter. Also, google translate app on your phone has made reading all the Japanese service and history very easy.
Jay saying “not a lot of torque you really gotta get that thing spinning” lets me know he really know about rotaries. Ty for showing the rx7s the love they deserve. Deff going to be a chassis that will only go up in value as more people start garaging or grenading them
I’ve owned all 3 of those. The Japanese Honda NSX 1990-1995 (pop up headlights era) is a far superior vehicle. Better handling, better performance, and better looking… oh and I forgot WAY more reliable. I’ve owned a Honda NSX RHD in the USA for the past 8 years. I owned and got rid of my R32 GTR, R33 GTR, RX7 FD and my classic Z cars, never got rid of my NSX and won’t.
@@stevethomas760 I started with a 1990 when they first became legal to import. Sold it and moved onto the 1994 and then a 1995. I experienced the slip ring issue on the earlier model but the 1995 is the sweet spot.
@@danmartin633 exactly that. The all aluminum body will past the test of time. The GTR, their engine is glass and the body wants to rust when just looking at moisture.
Which model do you have?I had an R1 and man after an hr with its rock hard suspension and those racing seats it didn’t feel fun at all sitting in there
Skyline GTR, rb26det, 2.6 litre twin turbo. Huge success in the Australian Supercar series of races (plenty of videos of them racing on the Bathurst track). 4WD too, was unbeatable in the Aussie races.
@@MattP75 probably the corner, or more a series of slight bends, Bathurst has a big elevation difference, I think or it makes sense that skyline would be the highest elevation area of the track, although I’m probably very wrong
@@MattP75 The Nissan (Prince) Skyline was introduced in 1957. The name Skyline marks the step downward descent at (Mount Panorama) Bathurst as you can’t see the road ahead. Going up or down. It was renamed in 1997 to Brock’s Skyline to honour Peter Brock the Australian driver not the American driver.
The very expensive and heavily reengineered Skyline Sports Cars that competed in Aussie Touring cars were like most of the GpA cars and all cheated up. Debuted at Mallala with a big nosed git driving it the wheels kept falling off. 8 hours to change an engine nd they broke plenty of those
I still do not think that the English are spending a penny on development of new styles...but the old styles are absolutely timeless. The XKE and the other types are beautiful!!..no need to change what isn't broken...Morgan is also a great example of this...
Im loving all of these episodes with Mr. Osborne! Very knowledgeable and I love how he and Jay bounce off each other, I'd kill to be a fly on the wall in a room with them nerding out
Jay, I really recommend you do a deep drive of a real R32 GTR. The technology behind them is just fantastic. Reason I mention is 'engine front, transmission rear' neglecting the AWD system.
88 Prelude was the most ergonomic, best handling, and comfortable long-distance car I ever owned. Late in it's life, I pushed it through a sharp turn at 100 mph. It didn't care that it already had almost 200k miles.
@@andrewsmith5198 I had been a mechanic, and my grumpy side didn't want to maintain 4WS; the transition point seemed like a problem waiting to happen. How did you like the feature?
When i went to 3rd grade, i made friends with another kid in class, whos mom worked at a Mazda dealer. Him learning how much i loved cars, he got his mom to bring home a brochure of the new 93 RX-7 for me. It was a full on magazine, but the paper was thicker. Now THAT was a brochure, it showed everything, and looking at it with a modern perspective, wasnt full of BS. It just showed the unibody without panels, the suspension, talked about the engine. It wasnt trying to sell you the car, it was more of a Wikipedia article about the car. It was greyish with chrome RX-7 logos in the center. Im almost 40 now, i still have it in my giant collection of car magazines, and i can still remember my friend whenever i run across it. Funniest thing, he had a unique laugh, which i started doing, then my mom caught on too. I dont do it anymore, but my mom still laughs like my friend in 3rd grade.
@@samuelgarrod8327 how so? Democrats are the real Nazis. Narcissistic, gaslighting, which-bathroom-do-I-feel-like-using-today, war-mongering, self-serving, crooked morons. Period.
And Wankel hast nothing to do with the rotary engine as we know it. It was Paschke who developed the rotary engine qt NSU. Wankel even stated that he reduced his racing horse to a working horse.
@@samuelgarrod8327Yeah. Because N's allow their daughters to marry Jews & US N's like to give recognition finally to the ancient Jewish capital. Stop being a drone. You have intelligence & discernment available.
In 1993 I went to the Long Beach Auto Show where they had the new 3rd gen. RX7 on a turntable, I stood there about an hour taking it in, so pleasing to the eye perfection. The Datsun 240Z was definitely inspired by the Jag XKE (the poor man's XKE).
My wife and I live in Tokyo. She drives a 30-year-old Toyota (Corona) Exiv. As it is parked outside (like everyone else) the paintwork has suffered a lot, but the car is still mechanically sound and she will never sell it.
Brit here, BSA motorcycles tried to develop a rotary engine in the early 70s when they went bankrupt. Norton then ended up with the engine and tried to develop it as a road bike but the only ones I ever saw were a couple of police bikes in the middle of the eighties (Norton Interpols). The first one tested by the police locally pulled me for speeding when I was on my Suzuki GS1000. The Norton police bike actually caught me and Paul led me over, no previous police bike (mostly Triumph 650s/750s and Norton Commando 850s) would have done that. The cop let me off after we had a long chat about motorcycles and his Norton Interpol. On the track at the Isle of Man TT Norton did have a few amazing wins and sounded fantastic with a unique howl. In the end though they couldn’t compete against the Japanese big four manufacturers. They also struggled with emission regulations and heavy fuel consumption. Anyone wanting to hear and see one on TH-cam there are some great videos search Norton rotary TT 😃👍
These segments with Donald are my absolute favorite! So much to learn.
Pair him with Steve Magnante and I think we could have a whole new level of automotive history and detail.
Certainly hightlights Jay's lack of knowledge of Japanese vehicles
they get a lot wrong, dont "learn" too much from these two
I thought you meant Trump because Jay was so orange
me too, I could listen to Donald talk about cars all day
Glad to see Jay and Donald doing another episode of the show together, awesome...
What a relief, actually!
I just went outside and congratulated my RX-7 FD for winning this episode of Jay’s Garage.
It should be in the garage.
That RX-7 is an absolute timeless classic. It still looks modern.
Shame it has such a lousy drivetrain
@@viscountslappy5085 - It does require a lot of care & feeding.
The drivetrain is what it makes standout. It's however not a car for everyone.
@@viscountslappy5085 I don't have any experience with them, but they were very fast in turbo form. My grandmother had an old Cosmo I think that was a twin-rotor, and suffered from leaking seals.
Having an RX-7 in such good condition is a conundrum because you could do a better rotary swap, but it's worth a lot original.
I think the looks are what makes it. The RX7 wouldn’t see which way the Skyline went on any road, but it’s an involving driving experience. The Skyline GTR’s can be a bit numb to drive given the amount of tech working behind the scenes, they’re a blunt instrument. Oh, and the Skyline doesn’t have popup headlights 😉
If you never seen an RX-7 in person, there is no flat surface on it, its very very elegant and will never age. If you ever driven a rotary, you will not believe how it revs. Its unreal, seamless and very satisfying.
I drove the Mazda rotary engine pick up, the ad for it, at the time was, "the pick with pick up". I think they only had them from 1973-76.
@carloscarpinteyro332 those looked great, I think Mazda model it off the f150/f100.
You will believe how it revs every time you put gas in it. My RX2 got an astounding 12 mpg.
It's up there with some early 60s Ferraris in my book. Just gorgeous, and I remember when they first came out. Just a stunning care, and WAY better looking than a 348 GTB... ahem...
Great revving engine the rotary's were but were thirsty, lacked torque, and longevity.
This RX 7's style here is timeless but I think Mazda would've sold more of them if they didn't tune the suspension so harsh.
Our family loves the 240Z. We have two. I restored my fathers Z, two decades after he passed. It just layed dormant in our barn waiting for me to become old enough/talented enough to get it going. I cannot really put in to words what the car means to me.
I get it. It's something that has had me wondering for years: Why do some become attached to cars and others seem to have no connection at all? Even without the added meaning of a loved one having the car, some cars just pull at our hearts. And some people will only ever see them as appliances. Hard to fathom.
I understand entirely. I've had 4 Datsun Z's 1-240, 2-260's and a 280. Also had a 79 ZX, but thats a different car entirely. All Gen 1's were so simple, so amazing. The work-light mounted under the hood is such an iconic piece, I put them in all my modern vehicles!
I owned a 1975 280Z, and I'd still be driving it today if it hadn't been stolen. A great automobile on which I was able to perform most of the scheduled and unscheduled maintenance myself. Drove it coast-to-coast and north/south multiple times. I miss it still today.
@ get another one!
Anyone else watched so much of Jay Leno's Garage that you almost feel like you're mates with him, even though he doesn't know you exist?
Yep. I believe, the Gen-Z call it the "para-social relationship" 😅
I was literally just saying to my coworker,, "man, how cool would it be to be friends with Jay and be able to have a normal candid conversation with his like this.". He makes you feel welcome, like you're a part of the Convo too.
Every car guy's family member. and a national treasure for the USA.
I'm a stagehand and he walked by me not too long ago backstage at something he was speaking at, I wanted to just go talk to him about steam cars but then I thought he has no idea who I am haha. I bet in a different environment he would be cool with talking about cars like a normal person, he seems really down to earth.
I secretly call him uncle Jay 😅
The FD is one of the most beautiful designs ever. I've had one for 26 years and I still love to look at it and drive it after 170,000 miles. Love this car.
Wow hats off for maintaining it and keeping it on the road for so long.
I've had mine for around 22 years now FD 92 i look at it more than drive it as it has 47k miles
@@modifiedcarcommunity5092 Mine was an early production. March of 92. Isn't it amazing the amount of attention a 30 year old car gets when you are out? I had a 10 year period when my son was young and I worked a lot that I didn't drive it much. Probably only 5K miles in that span. He's 14 now and wants to go out in it all the time and I work less. Life is pretty darn good.
@@rexseven93 Yes they do get a lot of attention I'd say my GT-R 32 got attention too but only from enthusiasts who knew what the car was. The RX7 on the hand is next level without a doubt when it comes to attention
And skyline owners across the world are screaming it's a 2.6 not 3lt engine hence the engine code RB26
"Oh it's twin turbo, I forgot about that" 🤣
He said 3 ltr I thought oh a rb 26/30 but when I seen that hood popped not a chance lol do your homework Leno! Rb26dett 2.6 ltr
If Jay had let the smart guy talk more we would have learned so much!
Jay knows more about cars than every person in this entire comments thread combined.
You all should(appropriate jokes aside) give him some latitude for being inaccurate by .4 liters.
Jay has forgotten more about Nissan than any Gran Turismo junkie will ever know.
He has has been a car enthusiast for longer than your parents have been alive.
@@Markbell73 all jokes aside, and I say this as a big Jay Leno fan, he makes a lot of mistakes in his videos. It feels like he is in decline. Hope I'm wrong but when a car guy doesn't know a 240Z is 2.4L and thinks a GTR is 3L and forgot it was a twin turbo, something is off. Not hating, it just doesn't sound right.
The FD-RX7 could be put back into production as-is and the body would still look new. Such a timeless design.
🎯
Couldn't disagree more. It would look amazing, but it wouldn't look new. It's way to clean, countoured and subtle to be a new car. No massive grill or vents, no angry shaped LED's and tacked on bodywork, no piano black plastic inside or outside, this list goes on.
Check out the jdm facelift^
@@Wallstreetavarice A friend I used to work with had a twin to that red RX7. It was a couple of years old when he bought it and it still looked new. Absolutely beautiful!!
Unfortunately, I think you're right in that it wouldn't fit in today. What was perfect in the mid-90s would be too smooth to fit in with the modern designs. Most of the cars that I really liked up into the early 2000s have gotten so large and "bulgie" that I have no use for them. That's the reason that I drive a 2001 BMW 330xi instead of one 10 years newer. I doubt that the smaller, simpler designs will come back anytime soon. American, Japanese, Korean, European, it doesn't seem to matter much where it comes from. The styles have drifted too far.
@@Wallstreetavarice lol true
The whole Japanese antique collector market makes me smile. I was an 'early adopter' of J-tin, and after a lifetime of being told, "Japanese cars will never be collectable..", it has finally happened. Seems like every kid who grew up in the back seat of their mom's Civic/Corolla/Sentra wants in. Thing that caught me by surprise, though was the JDM thing. I still recall when I quit racing SCCA in '95 (divorce, child support, yada yada yada). I was 33yrs old, but living in a POS apartment next to a college campus. Young guys next door are big videogamers. Playing GT2, astonished that a 'racing game' was now more than just an obstacle course. Actually became kind of like my methadone after I had to quit IRL racing. They're picking their fave cars from the virtual garage, I say, "You know that's a real car, right? They just never sold it in the US."
I guess those younger folks are entering their 'prime earning years' now.
The 240Z was like a Swiss watch, mechanically speaking. Compared to other cars of that time, the engine idled smooth, ran smooth. It set itself apart from the competition. I loved my Z.
I’ve owned several, and they always had that near instant start-up, even when sitting for long periods of time. Awesome car.
@@vltruanThey were really nice cars.
I had a 93 FD red with black interior. I really really miss that car. I still think it’s one of the most beautiful design of all time.
Rx7 will never look outdated
100
I like the other 2 cars better
That RX7 looks so good after all this time
I’m surprised Jay doesn’t have a 240 in his collection. It may have been relatively common, but historically significant nonetheless.
I have a 1995 240 SX with 86k miles with 5 speed stick shift. Excellent condition. I might offer him:-)
@@e_destaoffer it to me. Price?
Jay may have thought they weren't worth the asking price..
As wealthy as he is, Jay is somewhat critical of the actual value and worth of the cars.
He doesn't like to overpay unless it's super rare and exceptionally sought after. Sadly, 240z isn't one of those..
@@digitalkov Agree, I am sure if a Fairlady Z432 is offered to him he would buy it on the spot.
@@latinsizer, YES.
Always admire Mr. Osborne's deep knowledge and refined taste - but not too "fancy pants" to talk to us denim blue collar types! A real car guy and always a treat when you have him on the show!
I completely agree. His brand of refined, yet down to earth attitude is always a treat
I hope Jay can have Mr. Osborne on more often. I love listening to these two guys talk.
Ah! Memories of my '87 RX-7. I drove it to work in the morning, then downtown to law school in the evening, and back home to Valencia. The car made my daily commute of 100 miles in L.A. traffic almost fun.
Great video, Jay and Don make a great team! I had a friend who wanted to buy a 240Z and when she found one I went with her to look it over. The engine sounded good, the body was in good shape but the interior was awful. It turns out the previous owner drove around with his dog, a Labrador Retriever, in the car all the time. The upholstery of the seats had bite marks, the floor looked like the dog had tried to dig his way out, and it was dirty and smelled. Well she bought the car, took it to an upholstery shop and paid a thousand bucks to have it all redone and made like new. It was worth it! It looked great and drove great and she kept the car for another six years before selling it for twenty grand, fifteen more then what she had paid for it!
The Honda S2000 should be on an “Appreciation” car list
I love the engine, and I'm sure they're fun to drive. But I never really liked them that much.
My brother had one, and a girl I know who races had the S2000 and a NSX. Had nothing but problems with the NSX, but she held onto the S2000 a long time. Hers was white, and my brothers was silver. I feel like most of the ones I see are.
Values on S2000s are pretty flat with the exception of the CR models. I suspect that pristine low mileage examples will be very collectible over the next 5-25yrs, so definitely worth purchasing now if you want an investment you can (sparingly) enjoy.
I was expecting to see this comment somewhere in here as an S2000 owner.
Love the bantering between these two guys on these segments. As always thoughts are with Jay and Mavis
When I was living in Japan I saw a lot of these cars still being driven and maintained across the countryside.
Unfortunately that is not the case anymore, too valuable I guess and many exported.
Jay and Donald are so good together. Love this multiple car situation like they do on Mansions & Motorcars. ❤
BNR32 is not 3 liter though. the RB26 is 2.6 liter
Right. Was even on the engine block. Funny he didn’t know about the FD size either
@@trebm3 DEI
dei
They probably have hundreds of cars in the collection so I’ll give him a pass but obvious mistake for any JDM enthusiasts
@@trebm3 But I bet you don't know jack about the size of Packard engines, or steam engines, or pre-war custom coaches. This is common knowledge to JDM enthusiasts, but Jay has cars we've never even heard of. You can only remember so much!
Love Donald and Jay, both automobile icons! I am partial to the Datsun because I have a 370Z now days myself and it is by far the most favorite car I have ever owned in my 45 years of driving automobiles. It's ten years old and still looks, smells, and drives like a brand new car. The only thing I have ever had to do to it is routine maintenance, new tires, and brake pads, and that's it! Very fun car to drive. I doubt I will ever part with it. I've had more expensive cars that weren't nearly as fun and exciting to drive as my 370Z. It will be a future classic for sure. Even now, one of the best bargain sports cars on the used car market. I wouldn't say that about the new Z which is overpriced in my opinion. I remember when you could get used 240Z's for $800. My first Datsun was a B210 I paid $350 for used. My B210 was a fantastic little car that was super reliable (back in the day when cars weren't nearly as reliable as today's market), cheap on gas, and cheap on insurance! I also had a 1956 VW Beetle (small rear window) in high school that I could drive for two weeks on a grand total of $8 in gas! Fortunately for me my Dad was a mechanic and he loved small foreign cars of all types and had a lot of them. My Dad parents never had to worry about their son out there driving like a lunatic because my cars wouldn't go over 55 mph anyway! LOL Low horsepower, tiny little foreign cars, but they were really fun to drive and cheap on gas and insurance like I said. At least I was pretty much always mobile when I was younger. My Dad taught me how to drive on a VW Beetle when I was 13 years old. I had a paper route close to our house and he would let me drive it on my route early in the AM before anyone was out on the road going to work! LOL. It was a glorious time in my life and I have very fond memories of that era.
The appraiser is such a well spoken gentleman. Such a pleasure listening to him and Jay discussing cars.
I love the Japanese 90’s group. From the supra, rx7, 3000gt, skyline and the real forbidden fruit nsx.
What a nice trio of cars. I did not know that a primo example of an RX7 or a 240Z would cost so much. My first car waaaay back was a 1974 Capri and I was thinking of getting a used Z. Oh well.
These segments with Jay and Donald are pure gold.
Fun fact: The rotary engine was also used in an Arctic Cat snowmobile in late 70’s-early 80’s.
I don't find the 240Z to be overexposed. They made a ton of them, sure, but like the first gen Miata (I have one, would love a first gen Z) I never get tired of looking at them.
If the Miata had been sold by lotus it would be a $100k car now.
@@dannysmith9882 It's amazing how big it looks when next to an original Elan. But yes, the steering is amazing on the 1st Gen Miata, Lotus like for sure. Lightweight too. Very Chapman-esque.
I loved the RX-7 growing up, my aunt & grandmother had one. Then f&f came out. Couldn’t wait till I was old enough to buy one. As I started looking, they where around 20-35k for near new. Now you can not find a good example under 60-70k. Another American dream burned.
I love Donald and Jay together! I perfer them to talk about the older automobiles but it's always fun and informative regardless. Carry on!😊
Yes, and dump the sleepy youngsters who host because they inherited their positions!
That was fun. More Jay & Donald please. Thanks!
Right. Are you listening, Jay and Donald?
Thank you ever so much Jay, your interactions with Donald Osborne are so good to watch. I lived through the introduction of all these cars and even owned a first gen RX7 (as well as several RX2s) and I owned a '71 240Z as well. (Along with a few 510s) I have driven several Skylines at track days as well. So I have some experience of all of them and I agree with your choice on the third gen RX7, but I surely do miss my Zed car.
The RX-7 aka FD3S chassis RX-7 is 1.3 liter in comparison. The horsepower Donald stated is incorrect, the real rating is 252 hp from factory. Jay mentioned that you couldn't really swap another motor in there because of size. That is not true, it is fairly common for people to swap to the Chevy LS V8 engine and there are a number of companies that make bolt-in kits. There is a huge amount of room under the hood. Being a rotary purist myself though, this is frowned upon swapping to a V8, as the soul of the car is the unique rotary engine which makes the car so balanced. I own two red RX-7s (a 1988 FC body Turbo II, and a 1999 FD3S Right hand drive JDM model) and also own a 1992 R32 Skyline GT-R in the same gunmetal color. Most of the R32 GT-Rs that were sold were in this color. Jay and Donald were both incorrect stating it's a 3.0 liter. It is a 2.6 liter inline 6 (the engine code is RB26DETT). The Toyota Supra TT was 3.0 liter. I don't think they realized that the GT-R is also all-wheel drive. The valuation is also incorrect, an R32 these days are not $120k. An R34 GT-R, sure, but an R32 GT-R can be had for $25k on the low end or $60k for a very nice one. Only the rare Nismo edition command a higher price at around $100k, but there are only around 500 of those cars ever made.
Rotary purist?? You mean Rotorhead!
@ldnwholesale8552 yes sir indeed! 😅
My thoughts exactly. Nice cars btw!
I remembered it being 255hp?
@@dannysmith9882 255 ps in Japan, which translates to 252 hp.
Love these guys bouncing the commentary off of each other. Donald's knowledge is obviously encyclopaedic, but in tandem with Jay's more irreverent but still technically spot-on comments, this is great stuff.
Technically spot on comments? This video had more errors than correct comments. More holes than swiss cheese.
Toyota 2000GT is my Fave! 2nd is the Mazda Cosmo 🤩😍🤩
Tasteful
I was wondering something. If a 2000GT and Fairlady Z432 were in a race, which one would win? I heard that both of them cost a fortune, so I wondered which one had the edge.
@@skylinefever the 1970 Z432 is a special homologation specced track car. So yes in a track, the Fairlady Z432 outperforms a stock Toyota 2000GT.
@@Xuzuluwuku Thanks. So are you saying the Z432 was track only? I thought they were street legal. They just weren't common because they cost twice as much as a standard S30 Fairlady.
@@skylinefever in order for some cars to compete in certain races. The car manufacturer has to make a street legal version of that specific race car. In this case the Nissan Fairlady Z432 is the street legal of the race car. It's called Homologation. Subaru has the impreza 22b, Toyota Celica GT4, Ford RS200, BMW M3 GTR, Ford GT to name a few examples.
Really enjoy when you work with Sir Donald. He handles technical detail as well you and he frees you up to be more Jay Leno much in the same way as your work with other guest co-hosts. The difference is that yourve worked with him a lot, and he's comfortable in the role. I love ❤when you razz him and he loves it. More work with the Sir Donald. Like Carson and McMahon.
I myself have already been boycotting the show when the young boring schlocks are dumped in front of us on the east coast at times. Even their voices sound so uninterested and sleepy.
1970 Skyline GT-R, Toyota 2000GT, NA1/NA2 Honda NSX, Lancer EVO 5 Makkinen Edition, original Lexus LS400, mk1 Toyoya MR2, mk3 Honda Prelude, DC2 Integra Type R, Nissan Silvia's, Toyota Levin/Trueno, Lexus LFA, almost any Honda with a dash clock...etc etc, are all iconic as well. I've driven almost all of them, Japanese cars are amazing! 😊
JDM cars are just the best for me Nissan R34 Skyline is the car to have.
Jay awesome video ❤❤❤
What do you mean “you can’t pull this engine out and put something else in…” my 93 RX-7 has a built 5.7 LS-1 mated to a T-56 6-speed. A VERY popular swap for these cars. Same weight (+15 pounds). Wicked fast…..
And Honda K swaps too!
A few 2JZ's out there too.
If you need to swap out the motor, buy a different car that has power.
A bud took me for a ride in his RX7 LS. You're right, wicked fast. His brother Charlie does RX7 conversions.
@SandDabs 2jz is abit of a squeeze in a fd
The r32, r33 and r34 gtr skylines were not 3 liter. They were 2.6 hence the RB26 engine. 18:55
That's exactly what I heard. They must be thinking the 2jz
Yeah me too I was like 3L?
Absolutely enjoy when Donald Osborne and Jay Leno get together! I will take the '93 RX7, an absolutely Beautiful and awesome perfoming Japanese Automobile.
I see one those Datsuns regularly on my commute to work. Yellow with black stripes. So great! LOCE this episode.
I'm surprised that the R32's all-wheel drive system wasn't mentioned. Such a big part of what made "Godzilla" so dominant on the race track. No mention of V Spec 2.
For the FD3, the Spirit R (final edition) would have been nice to see. Much more of a JDM rarity, & higher upside potential.
And yes, I'm a bit of a JDM geek........
You had me at the 240. Don’t care about the others, but Donald is my favorite guest!!
I love the original 240Z sail plane badge! It takes me back to my childhood!
I like how the “expert” smiled, and confidently said “3 liters” while looking at Jay 😂
I really enjoy the two gentlemen discussing these great cars. I see Jay as a father figure as my father in law just passed away yesterday. Please Jay, start ramping up your content. Some of us just want to share your thoughts as we obviously can live vicariously through you. Appreciate the work.
I love Jay's videos with the great Don Osborne.
You two are so fun together, true friendship and respect. Your knowledge compliments each other so well! 💕
17:08--Jay I've seen A chevy LS V-8 stuffed in one of those RX-7'S. So yeah you can put a larger engine in there.
I have one lol
Please have more of these segments. I love listening to the wealth of history and knowledge from Jay and Donald.
Love them all. 1.Nissan R32 GTR, 2. Mazda Rx7 FD, 3. Datsun 240Z.
Among these three sports cars, the Rotary powered Mazda RX7 is my favorite. I owned a second generation RX7 and would buy that car again. Not enough was said about Mazda tech and how they perfected the Wankel Rotory engine. This engine was originally a design that Wankel created and then tried to sell it to the car manufacturers of the day. There was no working model until Mazda dicided to use it in their sports car, the RX7. True, the Rotary engine could redline at 8000 or 9000. My experience driving an RX7 without a turbo charger was that it was docile to drive at under 4000 rpm’s. But once I put my foot in it, at over 45000 rpm’s and fourth gear - the car really took off!
Researching the tech of the second generation RX7, I found out that the body had been designed to replicate the features of the Porsche 924, so it had a .32 drag co- efficient. It was a very stable and confidence inspiring car to drive at speeds over 100mph.
The second generation RX7 got feuul injection, one of the reasons it was so fast. It also got a fully independent rear suspension, so it handled and turned well. The second generation RX7 had an almost 50/50 weight distribution because the engine so light and was set back so far.
I still remember waiting at a stop light behind five or six cars on a two lane street. After the light changed, the cars had positioned themselves so that they were placed like rolling orange cones. I dropped down a gear in that RX7 and stomped on it, using those cars as pylons in a race course. What Fun!
You also didn’t talk about the Mazda RX7’s racing history. The first and second generation RX7s won the 24 hour Lemans. And these weren’t factory teams. They were private race teams that received parts from Mazda.
I would buy the second generation Rotary powered Mazda RX7 again.
The Nissan Skyline GTR is legendary and a car I revere but can not afford to buy.
Of these three cars the Datsun 240Z is my least favorite. I never liked the body style. “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” Some guys like blondes. Some guys like brunettes. Some guys like brunettes with long jet black hair and big dark brown Asian eyes. Back to the 240Z. I have come to appreciate it as the first Japanese sports car that opened up this market in America. I have come to appreciate its engine tech and reliability and its racing heritage. But from 1970-73, the GM Impalas, Chevelles, El Caminos, Corvettes and Buick Rivieras are still my favorite body styles of that era.
Having owned a second generation Rotary powered Mazda RX7, I could never go back to a car that weighed over 2600 Lbs, that didn’t have a manual transmission, that wasn’t fun to drive, that wasn’t a sports car … a “Barchetta.”
Always love these segments with Don.
The best two people on classic and collector cars back again. I enjoy these segments which is not unusual but my wife enjoys them to which is unbelievable.
Hey Jay today isn't Monday! Love the extra episode this week though!
Always my favourite segment on the tv show and I’m glad to see a new ‘extended’ episode👍🏻
Mazda RX 7 horsepower was 255
Not 236. That's the RX8 numbers.
Donald Osborne has so many numbers to memorize I don't blame him.
Just like Mr Leno forgot the 240Z was 2.4 litres. He knew that. Just so many numbers and other vehicles they keep in mind lol
Crazy how they do it 🥰
Japanese model was 280hp.
Gen 7
@@corinful left hand drive north american model was presented 🤗
@@corinfulno jdm models were the same as usdm models from 1993 to 1995. The series 8 rs and higher trims from 1998 to 2002 made 276 bhp.
and then he said the gtr was a 3.0 liter. Thats the supra .The RB26 literally has its displacement of 2.6 liters in its name. Still love jay tho
@@mikeschmidt982 hes forgetting a lot of facts lately: age does this to us all (like the aws ATESSA)
We love you Jay, never stop doing what you enjoy the most , every episode is a treasure!
I'm so glad to see Donald again. That was one thing I was missing from the TV show.
In ‘79 I had a friend who owned a 240Z and we had so much fun tooling around in it! It was lime green, if I remember correctly! I can’t believe the values of this car…Great episode with these two car experts!
The value of them has exploded. 15 years ago they could be had for super cheap. Now, a non running very rough condition 240z is hard to find for less than $6k.
@@keithbuck1668 I bought my 71 240z in 2007 for $6k with 70k miles and in all original condition. It isn't concourse condition but close. Not that I would ever sell it but that's better than playing the stock market.
@@SpootySpoot i got my 1970 240Z in 2008 for $1200 - California car , no rust and it ran - still have it and love it
I have a black 93 RX7 in my garage and in stock form it was rated at 255 hp and they
bumped it to 280 hp in the late 90 s to 280 hp.
I had a 97 Mitsubishi Galant VR4 with 276hp and all wheel drive, in standard form, you wouldn't see which way I went. But otherwise FD RX7 is a classic.
@@Tbirdtrav71 I hope you're not suggesting the vr4 was faster than the fd, because it was slower in every metric
Another great episode, no boring salesman with the latest supercar, just two Gents having a really interesting conversation about tree great classic cars. This is the way I prefer the show to be 😊
I think the Mk4 Supra is by far the JDM car that has appreciated the most. From ~15k to 100k+ in less than 10 years.
R34 gtr beats it I would say they were less than 30k 10 years ago and now are 300+ in some cases
@@yota8325its twice the price and jdm only
I see one those Datsuns regularly on my commute to work. Yellow with black stripes. So great!
The Skyline has an rb26dett, that's a 2.6 liter not a 3 liter. Also, google translate app on your phone has made reading all the Japanese service and history very easy.
Jay saying “not a lot of torque you really gotta get that thing spinning” lets me know he really know about rotaries. Ty for showing the rx7s the love they deserve. Deff going to be a chassis that will only go up in value as more people start garaging or grenading them
I’ve owned all 3 of those. The Japanese Honda NSX 1990-1995 (pop up headlights era) is a far superior vehicle. Better handling, better performance, and better looking… oh and I forgot WAY more reliable. I’ve owned a Honda NSX RHD in the USA for the past 8 years. I owned and got rid of my R32 GTR, R33 GTR, RX7 FD and my classic Z cars, never got rid of my NSX and won’t.
NSX is a sweet ride, what year?
And not going to rust, probably why the Z is so rare today.
@@stevethomas760 I started with a 1990 when they first became legal to import. Sold it and moved onto the 1994 and then a 1995. I experienced the slip ring issue on the earlier model but the 1995 is the sweet spot.
@@danmartin633 exactly that. The all aluminum body will past the test of time. The GTR, their engine is glass and the body wants to rust when just looking at moisture.
@@johnsonreppyou couldn't be more wrong
I just took my FD on a 7 1/2 hour round trip and it’s very comfortable too. Nice to see it appreciated so much on the TH-cam’s. 😄👍
Which model do you have?I had an R1 and man after an hr with its rock hard suspension and those racing seats it didn’t feel fun at all sitting in there
Skyline GTR, rb26det, 2.6 litre twin turbo. Huge success in the Australian Supercar series of races (plenty of videos of them racing on the Bathurst track). 4WD too, was unbeatable in the Aussie races.
What came first, the corner Skyline at Bathurst or the car? My guess is the car was named
after the corner.
@@MattP75 probably the corner, or more a series of slight bends, Bathurst has a big elevation difference, I think or it makes sense that skyline would be the highest elevation area of the track, although I’m probably very wrong
@@MattP75 Skyline cars were named after Prince Skylines. Nothing to do with track locations.
@@MattP75 The Nissan (Prince) Skyline was introduced in 1957.
The name Skyline marks the step downward descent at (Mount Panorama) Bathurst as you can’t see the road ahead. Going up or down. It was renamed in 1997 to Brock’s Skyline to honour Peter Brock the Australian driver not the American driver.
The very expensive and heavily reengineered Skyline Sports Cars that competed in Aussie Touring cars were like most of the GpA cars and all cheated up. Debuted at Mallala with a big nosed git driving it the wheels kept falling off. 8 hours to change an engine nd they broke plenty of those
I’m beyond excited for this episode. Thank you Jay
surprised to see the BNR32 was just 2nd on the list while both z and 7 were always available in the US.
Depends on the country, I sold my BNR32 here in Australia 9 years ago for 22k, they are now 80k 😬
I still do not think that the English are spending a penny on development of new styles...but the old styles are absolutely timeless. The XKE and the other types are beautiful!!..no need to change what isn't broken...Morgan is also a great example of this...
I had a "Z car" and I really liked it. So did other people, it was stolen 2 times in 3 months.
Please, Jay. More Donald. He’s such a legend and his uber knowledge and ability to stay on task is impressive.
Hey Mr. Leno, how about a Chevrolet Turbo Sprint?
Earth is flat we have evidence
Im loving all of these episodes with Mr. Osborne! Very knowledgeable and I love how he and Jay bounce off each other, I'd kill to be a fly on the wall in a room with them nerding out
Jay, I really recommend you do a deep drive of a real R32 GTR. The technology behind them is just fantastic. Reason I mention is 'engine front, transmission rear' neglecting the AWD system.
Donald is absolutely fantastic. So well spoken and knowledgeable.
88 Prelude was the most ergonomic, best handling, and comfortable long-distance car I ever owned. Late in it's life, I pushed it through a sharp turn at 100 mph. It didn't care that it already had almost 200k miles.
I had a 1988 yellow prelude. Si with 4ws. Wish I kept it.
@@andrewsmith5198my brother had a SI with the 4WS. Absolutely fantastic car.
@@andrewsmith5198 I had been a mechanic, and my grumpy side didn't want to maintain 4WS; the transition point seemed like a problem waiting to happen. How did you like the feature?
@@busterdee8228 it always worked.
Wow!! I wish these was as long as this on the television show!
This is wonderful.
And 3 truly classic cars. Three of my favorites
RB26DETT. One if the most famous engines ever, and two car guys don't know the displacement 🤯
To be fair to both of them 90s jdm won't be their main interest
When i went to 3rd grade, i made friends with another kid in class, whos mom worked at a Mazda dealer. Him learning how much i loved cars, he got his mom to bring home a brochure of the new 93 RX-7 for me. It was a full on magazine, but the paper was thicker. Now THAT was a brochure, it showed everything, and looking at it with a modern perspective, wasnt full of BS. It just showed the unibody without panels, the suspension, talked about the engine. It wasnt trying to sell you the car, it was more of a Wikipedia article about the car. It was greyish with chrome RX-7 logos in the center. Im almost 40 now, i still have it in my giant collection of car magazines, and i can still remember my friend whenever i run across it. Funniest thing, he had a unique laugh, which i started doing, then my mom caught on too. I dont do it anymore, but my mom still laughs like my friend in 3rd grade.
“Wankel wasn’t just a Nazi, he was an Uber Nazi” - Jay Leno
$20 he never Ubered 😅
Just like Trump.
@@samuelgarrod8327 how so? Democrats are the real Nazis. Narcissistic, gaslighting, which-bathroom-do-I-feel-like-using-today, war-mongering, self-serving, crooked morons. Period.
And Wankel hast nothing to do with the rotary engine as we know it. It was Paschke who developed the rotary engine qt NSU. Wankel even stated that he reduced his racing horse to a working horse.
@@samuelgarrod8327Yeah. Because N's allow their daughters to marry Jews & US N's like to give recognition finally to the ancient Jewish capital.
Stop being a drone. You have intelligence & discernment available.
I always appreciate these segments!
Just subscribed, can’t wait to see more of your content!
Jay's already got a thousand videos, you don't have to wait to see more content.
@@thereisnospoon52 it's a bot, look at the profile
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WOW fantastic I love Donald, amazing insight. As former owner of a 240 z he nailed it.
My friend's wife had a RX7 but I never saw her drive it because it was always broken. The rotary lives on in the MX30 R EV in Europe.
that's sad. I've owned 3 of them and only required a new clutch on the first.
Thank you Jay and Don...so appreciated by this Aussie subscriber.
I read that title wrong 💀
I always enjoy Donald's visits!
0:35 you can stop there. The most beautiful sports car on the planet. Thanks for the video, I am out.
Let’s not go too
ςＲ𝕒žｙ now. But it is one of the most beautiful Japanese cars of the 70’s.
In 1993 I went to the Long Beach Auto Show where they had the new 3rd gen. RX7 on a turntable, I stood there about an hour taking it in, so pleasing to the eye perfection. The Datsun 240Z was definitely inspired by the Jag XKE (the poor man's XKE).
My wife and I live in Tokyo. She drives a 30-year-old Toyota (Corona) Exiv. As it is parked outside (like everyone else) the paintwork has suffered a lot, but the car is still mechanically sound and she will never sell it.
Great cars. Thank you Jay for bringing on Donald Osborne again! I enjoy your discussions as much as the eye appeal of the cars.
Brit here,
BSA motorcycles tried to develop a rotary engine in the early 70s when they went bankrupt.
Norton then ended up with the engine and tried to develop it as a road bike but the only ones I ever saw were a couple of police bikes in the middle of the eighties (Norton Interpols).
The first one tested by the police locally pulled me for speeding when I was on my Suzuki GS1000. The Norton police bike actually caught me and Paul led me over, no previous police bike (mostly Triumph 650s/750s and Norton Commando 850s) would have done that.
The cop let me off after we had a long chat about motorcycles and his Norton Interpol.
On the track at the Isle of Man TT Norton did have a few amazing wins and sounded fantastic with a unique howl.
In the end though they couldn’t compete against the Japanese big four manufacturers.
They also struggled with emission regulations and heavy fuel consumption.
Anyone wanting to hear and see one on TH-cam there are some great videos search Norton rotary TT 😃👍
I love watching and listening to these two. Knowledgeable and passionate about the subject.