The Nissan 240Z changed the reputation of a whole country | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 24

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  • On the heels of the 2023 Nissan Z, it’s a worth look at the history of the original Nissan Fairlady Z - sold in America as the Datsun 240Z, 260Z and 280Z.
    And, in particular, the Fairlady Z432.
    This S30-generation Z not only changed the definition of “sports car” from 2-seat (British) roadster to 2-seat enclosed coupe, but changed the reputation of Japanese automakers around the world from manufacturers of curious cars to world-class automakers.
    The 240Z was powered by the L24-powered, a somewhat-Mercedes-derived straight-six that gave it performance on par with Ferrari Dinos and Porsche 911s, at a fraction of the cost. But with all the looks of Ferrari’s front-engine V12-powered coupes.
    The 240Z had waiting lists for years in America. It was such a runaway success that credit for its design became hotly contested, leading to a threatened lawsuit by Albrecht Goertz, a German aristocrat who had been hired by Nissan to consult on the project - which was originally a collaboration between Nissan and Yamaha.
    That collaboration was for a closed, two-seater sports car large enough to comfortably fit two Americans. It was not coincidentally the size of a contemporary Porsche 911, since Goertz had worked on that project also. Ultimately, Yamaha’s A550X concept was born from this project, but Nissan turned it down.
    So, too, did Toyota, but who viewed Yamaha as a potential partner for its own sports car. That became the Toyota 2000GT, and its success spurred Nissan to continue work on its own sports car to replace the Fairlady, called Datsun 2000 Roadster in America.
    The result was the Fairlady Z, sold in the US as the Datsun 240Z. And it was a revelation.
    Featured in this episode is a Japan-only Fairlady Z432, which is a Z with the DOHC 24-valve S20 Prince racing engine from the Nissan GT-R. It cost double as much as the base Z in Japan, so it was largely unsuccessful, but Jason postulates that may be the best-sounding six-cylinder of all time.
    Listen to it scream on a POV run up a mountain and perhaps you’ll agree. Subscribe to our TH-cam channel for new videos every day!
    Datsun Fairlady images courtesy of Kevin McCauley
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  • @GarrettKuna
    @GarrettKuna ปีที่แล้ว +1515

    My day gets so much better when there's a new Cammisa video.

    • @matthewdaniels7462
      @matthewdaniels7462 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And we some of the 1st to see it woo. Happy motoring fam.

    • @violin245
      @violin245 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Seriously. my car broke down, might have major engine damage and I had to pay 100 in lyft costs to still be late for work but Jason put out a video so I consider this a good day!!!

    • @Felix-qy1oi
      @Felix-qy1oi ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My dad gets so much hornier when there's a new Cammisa video.

    • @mcspikesky
      @mcspikesky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My day gets a little harder when Jason posts a video..

    • @dbowen22
      @dbowen22 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same 😭

  • @odstj.d.rookie2894
    @odstj.d.rookie2894 ปีที่แล้ว +1551

    Absolutely love this show from Hagerty, Jason has the perfect personality to talk about cars but make it awesome.

    • @Kiss__Kiss
      @Kiss__Kiss ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly!!!

    • @daneaustin2468
      @daneaustin2468 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The bench mark.

    • @michaelmoser2130
      @michaelmoser2130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      very true

    • @jmpm3
      @jmpm3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He really makes the best automotive videos on TH-cam. More please!

    • @rjlopez9358
      @rjlopez9358 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jason is the future jeremy clarkson. 💯

  • @albertadams2095
    @albertadams2095 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    The driving footage and the sounds at the end gave me chills. That car has so much soul.

    • @shakeydavesr
      @shakeydavesr ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not just yeah, but, heck yeah,,,,

    • @--Allen--
      @--Allen-- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lord have mercy what a beautiful sound!

    • @itsthemetho
      @itsthemetho ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Eyes closed, I was just in heaven listening to that. ;)

    • @bghoody5665
      @bghoody5665 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That Fairlady was singing.

    • @zachsheffield1325
      @zachsheffield1325 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why have a fine instrument when you can have such a fine automobile!!?

  • @Criomorph
    @Criomorph ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The sound on that 432 is something else entirely.
    It's absolutely breathtaking.

    • @adel5637
      @adel5637 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, sound wise it's even as good as if not better than the legendary jz and rb

  • @TnDAtkinson
    @TnDAtkinson ปีที่แล้ว +385

    That ending has the most beautiful engine sound. I drove a 280z, with EFI and a 5-speed, back in my college days. The 25 minute trip to school, all highways and back roads, was the best part of the day.

    • @Cherokeelion
      @Cherokeelion ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Instant smiles. What a sound

    • @HoffmansHoopties
      @HoffmansHoopties ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Straight up unbelievable sound 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵

    • @mattjacomos2795
      @mattjacomos2795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I own a Mazda MX -3 with the 1.8 litre, Quad Cam V6 and revs to 7800, and it has headers...

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      72,6 pack carbs,diesel crank and huge cam,cage,fun car when the carbs would behave

    • @jaxoneering5469
      @jaxoneering5469 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right! I played the end driving clip over a few times. Even called my wife into the room to hear it :)

  • @650ib
    @650ib ปีที่แล้ว +663

    Jason is as legendary as the Nissan Z cars 💯💯💯💯

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look who are here 🙂

    • @edkar7604
      @edkar7604 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhhhhh not even a little

    • @scotte2815
      @scotte2815 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      uh, Jason, in some languages, means bag of hot stinky air that attaches itself to something interesting.

    • @MTadventurerider
      @MTadventurerider ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scotte2815 Oh man! You brought a tear to my eye in laughter from the sheer hilarity of that statement!

    • @vdochev
      @vdochev ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment needs 432 likes.

  • @briankorner750
    @briankorner750 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Man, that 432 straight six sings beautifully. I grew up riding in my parents 73 240z. Great memories.

  • @VirtualGuth
    @VirtualGuth ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I was 8 when I first saw a 240Z out on the street and I can still remember that moment. To me the original Z remains one of the most beautiful car designs ever, regardless of the price/value attached.

    • @Behine.DeChilis
      @Behine.DeChilis ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree. Something very special about the shape. And the sound!!

    • @SFbayArea94121
      @SFbayArea94121 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, it’s alright looking

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea unfortunately the Japanese copied a Ferrari GT 250 to get that body style. So the most beautiful car you saw was really a Ferrari.

    • @VirtualGuth
      @VirtualGuth ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@craigthescott5074 That's funny. Designers have been inspired by one another throughout the ages, this is nothing new. While it is possible that the Ferrari was among the cars that inspired the design of the 240Z, the 250 GT certainly wasn't without its peers and predecessors in terms of design. Any of those cars might have played a role in what would become the 240Z. Yet it is the aesthetic of the 240Z that I most prefer.

    • @ratsun5603
      @ratsun5603 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@VirtualGuth the proportions of the Z is just spot on.

  • @NoClassic
    @NoClassic ปีที่แล้ว +330

    I had no idea there was an MB connection to the inline engines they produced. This series is still the best thing out there in automotive media right now.

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Its interesting to see how much history Nissan and Mercedes have. Even now still sharing parts and platforms

    • @oneflewoverthecuckoosnest2823
      @oneflewoverthecuckoosnest2823 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@air-headedaviator1805 An older man always said to me that Mazda was the Japanese Mercedes and i said no that's Nissan!

    • @davidrabenius726
      @davidrabenius726 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have heard that the rockers on the L series engines were direct copies of the Mercedes engines from the 1950's

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@air-headedaviator1805 But Prince produced some engines, including that one, for MB though.

    • @rudydiego3084
      @rudydiego3084 ปีที่แล้ว

      Autopia La is also a good channel

  • @therealturbofanisme
    @therealturbofanisme ปีที่แล้ว +294

    This content is pure gold. I *love* that every one of these episodes ends with engine noises recorded inside and outside the car WITH NO MUSIC OR TALKING. Never stop driving, indeed.

  • @buckroger6456
    @buckroger6456 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Love the 240Z it's still a great looking car after all these years.

  • @clayjones2370
    @clayjones2370 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    So great! I owned a 240Z my last year of high school and miss it to this day (40+ years!). Such a fun car to drive and easy to work on. Thanks, Jason. I especially appreciate the last bit, where there was no music other than that mellifluous twin-cam. I'm drooling!

    • @rickburrell5597
      @rickburrell5597 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you liked that drive, go up to the search bar and take a look for the video "late to church in my datsun 240z hero cam hd". Now that's a drive which brings back memories for me, tire squeal on the corners, headers, and well tuned carbs. Instead of reaching for the slipper like this guy does in the video though, I used to reach for another Schooner beer from the storage locker behind the passenger seat.

    • @ETrys
      @ETrys ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickburrell5597 it was an amazing video.

  • @brendanmcaleer4058
    @brendanmcaleer4058 ปีที่แล้ว +288

    When the Z43 went racing, it became part of a really interesting internal Nissan-Prince rivalry, as the Prince guys never gave the Nissan team the best stuff; apparently ex-Prince employees were angry that Nissan was using "their" engine.
    The *ultimate* Z is the Z432R, which is basically a stripped out Z432, but also features acid-dipped body panels for weight. Z432R bodies were used in the early Safari cars (this was cheating, but ain't cheating if you don't get caught). About 50 Z432Rs were built, nineteen of them road cars. There is one well-known owner in Japan who still drives his on the road regularly - often catch him at Daikoku PA. It's the second most valuable Japanese car after the 2000GT, and has probably crossed the seven figure mark by now.

    • @JSpecGC8
      @JSpecGC8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Even Z professionals dont agree on but is very true, you couldnt just go and buy a 432 or a 432R from the dealer, also the S20 in the Z is not identical to the Hakos S20

    • @phantommedia9964
      @phantommedia9964 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wow.

    • @Schmitzelhaus
      @Schmitzelhaus ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Damn, that´s quite the rabbit hole to go down, not bad! 😅👌

    • @SonOfTamriel
      @SonOfTamriel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Schmitzelhaus No doubt, that's awesome. Learn something new every day

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JSpecGC8 where they like an early AMG thing where you had to the buy the car then hand it to prince?

  • @istvanlorinczi2817
    @istvanlorinczi2817 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    Whole lotta Z content with Cammisa, the drag race, this Revelations and soon the ICONS. Good times

    • @TheTkpham
      @TheTkpham ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is an ICONS ep about the Z coming? I CAN'T wait! I know Jason hates how the industry moved away from fun and engagement towards focusing on lap times and drag times, but the rest of the world cares, hence the drag race video... but I was really hoping to hear more driving impressions from him about the NEW Z.
      But can't go wrong with some classic 240Z content either.

    • @istvanlorinczi2817
      @istvanlorinczi2817 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheTkpham he posted about it on insta with all Z's together. 240Z, 280ZX, 300ZX (both Z31 and Z32) 350Z, 370Z and 400Z. He did say couple of weeks tho

    • @yglnvbrs
      @yglnvbrs ปีที่แล้ว

      Russian spy confirmed

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate the format of his videos...like talking to a good friend in your car garage while drinking a beer or sipping on tea ❤

  • @worthamsgarage
    @worthamsgarage ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This might be my favorite Revelations yet! I learned sooo much from this one!…. Also, I could listen to that S20 all day!!!

    • @freedom55or95
      @freedom55or95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow the S20 exhaust note is awesome

  • @Funsho97
    @Funsho97 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Hands down this is the best show on the Hagarty channel, very entertaining and informative!!!

  • @mavrickmiller2755
    @mavrickmiller2755 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I'm so glad Hagerty are listening to our feedback. WE LOVE THIS SERIES

  • @scottimusgarrett15
    @scottimusgarrett15 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Ah, Jason, you made my day! I love these cars, and remember when Nissan was selling "new" 240's factory refurbished. Crazy!
    Thanks Jason, and crew for your prodigious talents! Every episode is cinematic. Kudos!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦

    • @pkerch
      @pkerch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Heritage project! I actually test drove one here in Dallas just to see how well they were restored - this one was tip-top!

  • @jimasuncion3904
    @jimasuncion3904 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh my gosh! The sound of that straight 6 in the end just gives me chills! I love this channel! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @PostalTwinkie
    @PostalTwinkie ปีที่แล้ว +37

    In 2001-2002 an old friend purchased an original, 30K mile, 240Z for $3,000 from his neighbor. White on black, 100% original. Amazing car. Unbelievable price.
    I just hope he still has it all these years later.

    • @davidrabenius726
      @davidrabenius726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a beautiful 1973 that was in immaculate condition. I paid $ 4,500 for it in 1984, people ( Datsun Z club ) thought I was insane. The car had been painted by a real pro. I called him and he said that it would take $3,400. to do it again and he remembered the cars original owner. I sold it but about 3 months later I got bitten again and bought a 1970 for $2,500. It needed about $1,600 worth of work but was awesome when done.
      Flash forwards to 2008 and I saw my old neighbors Competition Z 1970Z at a car meet. Surprised to see a new owner I asked him and he said that he bought it off some retired Glendale City Prosecutor for $1,500. Seems the head was warped and he lost interest in repairing it so he parked it in his garage. The previous owner was having a garage sale and wanted the garage space back. That car when I had my 73 was probaly worth $7,500 to replicate the motor & suspension. It had most of the Datsun Competition equipment plus custom made parts on it. I had my Z at VPC ( same builder ) in Phoenix and I was taken for a ride in it. To say it was brutal would be an understatement. The ride was short but I had the shakes afterwards, Mike tried to stop the car suddenly and hit a patch of sand and I thought that this was the end of Sam's Z. Luckily Mike the owner at VPC was a full race driver and made several imputs and just missed crashing it. The engine was full race but daily driven on the street....Those were the days!!

    • @shehandesilva7530
      @shehandesilva7530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the mid 2000s when I first started making my own money I started looking in to these - got so close to buying one, clean drivers could easily be had for $5-10k. Instead I ended up buying an E30 for $2k instead of the Z (or an E30 M3 for like $10-15k at the time lol, which sounded like a crazy premium over a regular E30). Don't regret that decision one bit - but I routinely think back about what would've been if I had bought a 240Z instead, especially given what they cost now and knowing I would never buy one at this point. Hopefully there's an alternate me in an alternate universe that bought the Z instead of the E30 and enjoyed every second of owning it.

  • @thomasxl200
    @thomasxl200 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Ooh I have been waiting for this. And you got a Z 432! An incredible engine.

  • @vincentmurphy1269
    @vincentmurphy1269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a poor college student in 1972 with a clapped out MG Midget. I hung out with some rich guys who had a 240Z and a Porsche 914 - 6. I fell in love with the Datsun and finally bought one for my collection a couple of years ago. It lived up to my expectations in every way and still brings a smile to my 69 year old face.
    Great video and terrific history lesson. Thanks for all you do for the hobby , Hagerty !

  • @kennethswain6313
    @kennethswain6313 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I had a ‘78 280z fuel injected w/ 5 speed It would get 28 miles per gallon and would cruise nicely at 80. May be my favorite of all time!

  • @Loki_S13
    @Loki_S13 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I love how short and informative these videos are! No cliffhangers or trying to force the viewer to stay. Just great writing and editing!

    • @chrissholly9730
      @chrissholly9730 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it's informative and sometimes ,shocking detail that thrills ,god this is car lovers porn ....... Don't ever change these endings with the driver view point with a few curves and accelerations yea baby !!!!

  • @stevetomato4802
    @stevetomato4802 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Th Revelations series is amazing. It even tops Jason's similar previous projects. Jason and Hagerty are great together and I grow thankful that they're working together with each video release. The motoring world owes them a debt of gratitude for telling these historical stories and making them so accessible and entertaining.

    • @nl3712
      @nl3712 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well put

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last segment, pure mechanical music, an orchestra of pistons and valve with a clear-throated induction choir. Bravo!

  • @luisp.cuellar619
    @luisp.cuellar619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man first video I see from your channel is probably the best and most entertaining review about cars I've seen...and the car !
    I had a 77 one...it's was 20 years old...and it was a monster I still remember that car with a smile, it has been one the very best Car I ever owned. And to see this history about the whole project wow!...did not know the 432 existed and totally love it. Thank you, and from now on I am subscribed , cheers !

  • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
    @F1ll1nTh3Blanks ปีที่แล้ว +48

    My favourite Nissan of all time. Above even the GTR imo, simply sublime. Love at 1st sight.

    • @visionop8
      @visionop8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one hates you for that. Solid.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you driven a Nissan 510? 😉

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ytsux9259 no where near as special as a a 240 or any generation of a real Gtr( up to r34). Bmw 2002, Ford escort, fulvia and Alfa gulia are better cars in the mid century door slammer coupe segment..... Matter of fact, Datsun copied exactly to the T, the underpinnings of the 2002.....

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo I think you mean the 1602, the 2002 came later. And most of those cars you mentioned shared the same concept (revvy 4-cyl, semi-trailing-arm rear suspension) so to say they "copied to a T" the 2002 is inaccurate. What made the 510 appealing was that it cost significantly less than the BMW and the Alfa for similar performance and driving experience (and the classic Escort never sold in the US)

  • @furzbirre
    @furzbirre ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Thanks Jason, as always excellent entertainment, one of the best automotive journalists on TH-cam.

    • @PerplexedPhoton
      @PerplexedPhoton ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the best automotive journalists... In the world.

    • @furzbirre
      @furzbirre ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PerplexedPhoton Thanks for the correction 😁

  • @WatchmakerErik
    @WatchmakerErik ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hagertys video team should teach a master class on video production. So glad I'm a member.
    Also, Jason Cammisa is my spirit animal.

  • @predatorpwr
    @predatorpwr ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are so high end and amazingly well done, so fun and informative. Thank you for your service.

  • @yoanfernanda
    @yoanfernanda ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I was introduced to this car by anime series called Wangan Midnight. The story was focused on cursed Fairlady which owned by highschool students called Akio Asakura. In his friend's shop, Akio tweaked the Z and use it for racing on the highway.
    Too bad this series was overshadowed by anime on the same genre that tells the story of tofu-delivery Toyota.

    • @Basics_of_Gameology
      @Basics_of_Gameology ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kinda different types of racing though, Wangan is a highway-horsepower-downforce at max speed game, and the D is a touge racing anime :D

    • @bowlander
      @bowlander ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are both great anima series, the benefit is all of wangan midnight is on youtube! Just don't watch the live action versions of these shows, they are horrific.

    • @yoanfernanda
      @yoanfernanda ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bowlander is it? I think the live action version was quite decent enough. Especially when they appeared the character with hot red R34 👌🏾

  • @TOM-C.
    @TOM-C. ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My dad drove up one day in a brand new 1972, beautiful, blue 240 Z! I was 12, and shocked as this was not the style of car my parents ever bought having three kids. I always felt like the cool kid when dad would pick me up from school, and do over a 100mph every trip home. 😁👍✌

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Lucky bugger! My Dad bought a compact 1 litre Datsun sedan in 1970! ;-)

    • @TOM-C.
      @TOM-C. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Balangair1 My older brothers at the time bought the Datsun 1200, and B210 Fastback. My aunt bought a 1200 as well which I eventually wound up with. The motor blew and I bought a race engine from a local shop who specialized in these cars, and had the auto changed to a stick. Then, my brother gave me his cool wide tire mags off his B210, and I was race ready with my otherwise ugly looking, jacked up, 110 hp 1200 sedan. 😁 It was pretty quick compared to equal cars of the day so was a lot of fun.👍✌

    • @TOM-C.
      @TOM-C. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Balangair1 Hey, it got from a to b with no problems. I've had the blessing to have a lot of nice cars over the Years, but am now stuck driving a Ford taxi car with a big V8, I'd love to have that 1 liter Datsun now! 😁

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac108 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My brother has worked in the car business all his life and has had a side business restoring classic 60s & 70s muscle cars. His current, and last, project is a total ground up restoration of one of the first 1970 240Zs.
    I have a 2019 370Z that I bought new and have loved since the day I got it.

  • @aswinhoola
    @aswinhoola ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You are literally the best automotive journalist I've ever seen in my life. Thank you

  • @shingoose6197
    @shingoose6197 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I adore the 432. Ever since I found out about them years ago, they've been at the top of my "I love this car" list. Because it's a six figure car (and in 432R spec, seven figure), I can't afford one...for now. I purchased the successor to the 432, the 200ZR. It's a 3rd generation Z, so it's more GT orientated. But it's the last to have an inline six; the RB20DET. I could go on and on about the 432 and 200ZR, but I want to thank Hagerty, Jason, and the team for featuring a car I love so much.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      7 figure... that's crazy. For that price I can build my own 432 from an ordinary 240... I can't understand purists and collectors tbh, they allways pay a false price for at the end of the day only "an object"

    • @shingoose6197
      @shingoose6197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JP-xd6fm the only made a handful of the R variants. It's a special motorsports homologation version.
      The other thing to consider as to why they're so expensive is the fact that a used S20 engine is knocking on the door of $100,000.
      You're right, you could make your own 432/432R. Maybe use a Datsunworks KN20 DOHC head or an OS Giken TC24-B1Z engine. Maybe even a hybrid RBL engine.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JP-xd6fm That's like saying why buy a pair of Nike Jordans when $10 shoes work the same. It's not the point.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ytsux9259 Is a bad example, the thing is for example a pair of Nike air that where used by Michael Jordan and sombody paid 1.5million for them and that's what I think is stupid because you can have a new pair of a good Jordans for , How much? 200$? I think you can pay more than 10$ to have a good shoes, but paying million and a half is idiotic.

  • @gregdcross
    @gregdcross ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jason, yet another excellent video. I remember when the 240Z came to America. What a breakthrough moment. It turned Datsun/Nissan image from a cheap low performance Japanese auto manufacturer to one that could supply style and some performance at a very affordable price. Today, the design of the 240Z is still beautiful and the sound of the Fairlady 6 is still one of the best sounding 6 cylinders ever made.

  • @pkerch
    @pkerch ปีที่แล้ว

    As a long-time owner of a 280z, this is one of the best videos on the origins of the Z I’ve ever seen. Was fortunate to get a personal tour of the Nissan heritage museum in 2016 and really got to see the entire scope and vision of that company. Truly a legend - great work on this!

  • @Hezath
    @Hezath ปีที่แล้ว

    Platinum content. Jason is doing spot on work here, and the final scenes are exactly what we're supposed to be seeing and listening to. Thank you.

  • @Cherokeelion
    @Cherokeelion ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can listen to that 6 rip along all day. What a sound!

  • @theeeMitchi
    @theeeMitchi ปีที่แล้ว +39

    That engine sound is eye-watering. Thank you so much for your videos and for always proving good pov footage!

    • @bladerunner5810
      @bladerunner5810 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FixingWithFriendsNo....the L series was perfect. It was virtually indestructible.... along with the matching manual transmissions. They were million mile units. Unfortunately, the coach work was not.

  • @navret1707
    @navret1707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a brand new ‘71 Z and a used ‘72. Both were great sports cars once I swapped out the Zenith knockoffs with Weber side drafts. The only problem I had with them was rust. They both rusted like a ‘55 Ford.
    My ‘71 cost $4,000 total, including tax, title and tags. About the same price as a BMW 2002. Only had to wait 4 months to get it. It was a head turner back then, even the hideous pumpkin orange, which mine was. There was so much room in the engine compartment that it was a joy to work on. Side note: all the tapped holes for the smog junk could be plugged with lug bolts. No kidding. All the smog crap came off mine and was stored in a box in a corner of my garage.

  • @jasonkelley6185
    @jasonkelley6185 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Keep em coming Jason! I think it’s become pretty clear that you’re crushing this series. Don’t let it go to your head. ;-)

  • @MrRawnch
    @MrRawnch ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just got my '77 280Z back in my garage. The design aesthetic is still breathtaking by today's standards.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's see pics of you driving it,we are waiting

    • @MrRawnch
      @MrRawnch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SpaceRanger187 Come to Denver and I won't have to send pics. 😄

  • @mydauphinefilms
    @mydauphinefilms ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Yes indeed this is a glorious sound! Music to my ears! Thx to Jason and Hagerty for the awesome content you create. Love it!

  • @mkausch3738
    @mkausch3738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your research, writing, passion for the industry, editing and humor are always right on. Very great work. Keep it up.

  • @glnnchrstphr9717
    @glnnchrstphr9717 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first Z was a 78 280. I paid $650 back in 86. It had been painted white with mother of pearl in the clear coat. Black interior and, of course, the obligatory 5 speed. God I miss that car!!

  • @alex.antolini
    @alex.antolini ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude, what an awesome video. Love the car, and love when there's more stuff from Jason to watch. Him and the boys from TH, best car videos today by THIS big of a margin.

  • @555Trout
    @555Trout ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My mom had one. It was the car I learned to drive in.
    I'd never thought of it that way before. But my entire life a real car has a clutch and stick shift cause I started in a Z.
    My mom never had a 4 seat car her entire life. 65 years of sports cars.
    Oh if I had that collection.
    I remember her first, an Austin Healey Sprite. Hauling me and my baby sister around in that tiny thing. Next was an MG Midget .
    Then came the 240Z.
    Then a Mercedes 350sl.
    Then a Mazda rx7.
    Then back to a Z, forgot the #..
    And about 5 more ...
    She was funny.
    Liked her sports cars.

    • @alistairwillock7266
      @alistairwillock7266 ปีที่แล้ว

      You've been very lucky. Your gearhead bona fides are as pure as they come.

    • @555Trout
      @555Trout ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alistairwillock7266 🙂

  • @jacobchesley5375
    @jacobchesley5375 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nissan has THE best sounding 6 cylinder motors. They're magic.

  • @LCMA
    @LCMA ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Hagerty. Great class about one of my automobile passions. Because of these video my weekwork ahead will start so much lighter. Greetings from Brazil. Luiz Andrade SP/SP

  • @akbarsatria6272
    @akbarsatria6272 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love the engine sound & love the styling. I was introduce to 240Z by the manga Wangan Midnight & immediately fell in love with main protagonist "Devil Z"

  • @SwagatPatasahani
    @SwagatPatasahani ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always fun to watch Revelations with JC. Keep the info coming. Awesome content. 🤟

  • @pgz9673
    @pgz9673 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for that last bit with the driving... that was pure awesome content.

  • @2loudspeakers
    @2loudspeakers ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep these iconic history videos coming! Another epic video!

  • @amccaulx
    @amccaulx ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Everything Jason works in ends up being amazing! Especially love his Hagerty content!

  • @rohankansagara848
    @rohankansagara848 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hands down amazing review! Nissan holds a soft spot for me because of its racing heritage and legacy. Man would I love to drive that 432 😄

    • @rt2255
      @rt2255 ปีที่แล้ว

      First i ever heard of 432 bet one of those today is near priceless.

  • @Sonnic7
    @Sonnic7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is single handedly my new favorite yt show!

  • @tariq7408
    @tariq7408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:55 the headlights being that yellow/warm just SCREAMS late 60s/early 70s😂

  • @74grinder
    @74grinder ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had no idea that the L24 was essentially a Mercedes’ engine. Makes sense. My great uncle claimed to have the first one in Santa Clara county. I was a kid when he had it, but it had a rawness that I loved and not found in modern cars. Btw that 432 Fairlady looks like an absolute blast at the end. I had no idea that existed probably because, JDM.

    • @hoedemakerbart
      @hoedemakerbart ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The patent maybe. But nothing on the engine is the same like Mercedes.

  • @davidtucker3729
    @davidtucker3729 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that 432 has a pretty exhaust note, almost as nice as some of the race tuned BMW I6 engines.. They rev like ripping paper. SWEET

  • @Thisath100
    @Thisath100 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are so creative. These videos are undoubtedly the best right now.

  • @Cstoreri
    @Cstoreri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video thanks! I enjoyed 5 of these , ranging from 71-78 loved them.

  • @dvsxavier
    @dvsxavier ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Even to this day, the Japanese holds the philosophy of taking the best from all over the world and making it her own. Great episode Jason, really enjoyed this one. Thank you.

  • @James-pl2oy
    @James-pl2oy ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Amazing how one company could concurrently produce two automotive icons in the Skyline GT-R and Z

    • @andrewsmart2949
      @andrewsmart2949 ปีที่แล้ว

      the 300zx never launched strait,a trait well and truly sorted out in R32 onwards skyline chassis

  • @jaynuck
    @jaynuck หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s the best straight six noise I’ve ever heard. Hands down. Maybe the best engine noise. I have to imagine that motor with a bump in compression and some juicy cams would be the absolute pinnacle.

    • @hoedemakerbart
      @hoedemakerbart หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is.. i have a 240z with a bigger cam in the L24. The sound at 7k is heaven 😅 the L series are great engines. A 3 liter stroker triple carb in this 1 ton car would be a rocket

  • @falcon0351
    @falcon0351 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason great job as always…Informative as always-and the spirited drive at the end with crackling pipe…is a fantastic ahhhh to the whole thing.keep em comin’ brother.we are watching.🇦🇺👍

  • @r.j.bedore9884
    @r.j.bedore9884 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for this. I love the old Datsuns but never really looked into the history, so this was quite an enjoyable watch. Jason's German pronunciation was also quite impressive to my American ears.

    • @1nTime
      @1nTime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was confused when he pronounced that german sentence because it was almost perfect, im german and if he starts speaking german like this infront of me i would think hes german

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1nTime I think he lived there for a bit when he was younger, can't remember exactly

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The most famous example of the ”New Safe Cabrio’s” (other than the Targa) must be Fiat X1/9, completely made for the US. It also had impressive crash structures front/rear with a solid passenger cell. Sadly never got the twincam it needed tho!

    • @andrewsmart2949
      @andrewsmart2949 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but was tubocharged by bell or spearco as i remember

    • @bladerunner5810
      @bladerunner5810 ปีที่แล้ว

      As is the case with all Fiats made for the US.....it was....sadly....a POS.

    • @rayblackard1974
      @rayblackard1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had a x19... stopped to get gas in West Virginia & ayiung dude there asked me: "is that a boat car?" First thought he said sports car, but then wanted to know how it went on water. Also the front held enough ice to be excellent cooler. Just had to be extra careful on curves when ice shifted!!! Good memories!! Take care.

    • @sunbeam8866
      @sunbeam8866 ปีที่แล้ว

      ....or the rustproofing!

  • @richardmountz3865
    @richardmountz3865 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have owned three 260Z's and a 2+2 ZX and still have two of the 260's. One is a pro street 2+2 with 16 in. wheel tubs/ ford 9 inch, a BUILT 220 HP 280 engine.
    And it is the best sounding engine I've ever heard.

  • @MrSwaggie1
    @MrSwaggie1 ปีที่แล้ว

    We in Australia also had the Prince Skyline GT which was a 4 door performance sedan. I believe it also had the 2 litre, dual cam, triple carbs engine and it sounded glorious. Thanks for the video, it brought back many memories.

  • @jebremocampo9194
    @jebremocampo9194 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a simple guy, I see Jason Camissa and Hagerty, I click

  • @egidiotigris203
    @egidiotigris203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The good old days Z wasn't cancelled 🤣
    By the way thank you reminding the Datsun name and logo genealogy.
    Brilliant episode as always.

  • @z06doc86
    @z06doc86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason is a natural presenter/host. Clearly does his research and I watch all the videos, even one’s I initially seemed uninterested in. 👍👍 thanks!

  • @mikeparkes7922
    @mikeparkes7922 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see why you have well over 2 million subscribers. Entertaining and informative.
    Great stuff! Bloody well done. Cheers.

  • @dejoreljackson1787
    @dejoreljackson1787 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Love it! I hope you do all the Z’s! Especially the z31- the father of the modern Z.

    • @One_LuvZ
      @One_LuvZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      people rag on the z31, but its a car that is done right is a looker. Currently own a Z32 and Z33

    • @liblib89
      @liblib89 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Modern Z's and even the FM cars in general, are more closely related to the Z32 Honestly.

    • @dejoreljackson1787
      @dejoreljackson1787 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liblib89 the z31 was the first V6 Z. And it was a major change. The first clean sheet redesign and the first push to go upmarket. Nissan historians (like me) peg the birth of the vg and the z31 as the start of the modern z

  • @kaloyanerusalimov
    @kaloyanerusalimov ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That 432 is so glorious! If I remember correctly, the engine has big pistons and a short stroke, making it “big” and rev happy. Simply incredible!

  • @TheWindingMUSTARD
    @TheWindingMUSTARD ปีที่แล้ว

    What incredible timing, I’m picking up my ‘73 240 this Saturday. I’ve wanted one ever since I first saw one and fell in love with when I was 8. I am over the moon

  • @jamesduncan578
    @jamesduncan578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show, I had a '73 240Z, bought new in the summer of '73. I had to wait for 3 months while they fixed a carburetor issue at the port in California. It was a corvette killer. wish I still had it.

  • @NateHigga
    @NateHigga ปีที่แล้ว +11

    While other cartubers are releasing their videos of the new Z,
    Jason and Hagerty has done it again, you guys are special!

  • @MoonfaceMartin88
    @MoonfaceMartin88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jason's German pronunciation is about as on-point as I've ever heard from a non-native speaker. That name is a mouthful for a German.

  • @renypayne11
    @renypayne11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an orange 1:18 scale 432 as a child growing up and it was my favorite. It was cool to see my model car come to life in this video

  • @stringandreed
    @stringandreed ปีที่แล้ว

    I thank you very much for your show. You do a great job. It also brings back so many memories for me. My first Z was the 240, which I purchased in 1975. My second Z was the 260, which I purchased in 1981. My third Z was the 280X, which I purchased in 1986. All of the cars were absolutely wonderful automobiles. Never giving me one mechanical issue, even though I drove them quite hard. My favorite Z was absolutely the 240. The 260 wasn't a bad car but it just wasn't the 240. The 280x was a disappointment for a Z car, But it was still a very reliable and nice car that I enjoyed for half a dozen years. I love Z's. And all the excellent memories they left me with.

  • @jamesbroderick9106
    @jamesbroderick9106 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I had a 280 2 + 2 with a 4-speed which is very rare. Actually the best damn car I ever owned. I lived in Iowa drove in the snow in it started every day 20 below it started

    • @CLP2102
      @CLP2102 ปีที่แล้ว

      i had one in Minnesota, damn if it wouldn't freeze shut, lol. i still love those cars

  • @Floridamarty
    @Floridamarty ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Possibly the best car ever built! When you consider the styling, the performance and what you got for your money, Nobody at any price built something better. I wish Nissan would once again offer a stripped down, performance, retro version of this car. I know I would buy it. I was lucky enough to drive a 260Z in high school back in '79, man I miss driving that car.

    • @Matt-kt9nm
      @Matt-kt9nm ปีที่แล้ว

      What color was it. I had a copper 260z

  • @kevinbarrett9615
    @kevinbarrett9615 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a treat , really love your channel , keep it going.

  • @RammYou2
    @RammYou2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my buddy Ron had this car in orange yes. i had a 77 Pontiac TA. one day we were canyon racing thru the Wichita Mountains and hit the twistiness. yes he had the corners over the bloated TA. we hit a creek bed doing maybe 95 mph and he dissected a Bambi deer that just disintegrated across the sharp nose of the 240z. we stopped and analyzed the slight damage and carried on. when it came to the hills the TA pulled away due to the anemic 400 V8's torque. the best drive was had by Ron with the 5 speed shifter he had in that wonderful car.

  • @CruiseControl1
    @CruiseControl1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My first car was a 1979 280zx and my second car was a 1976 280z.
    Thank you for making this. I only wish the new Z weighed 800 pounds less. At least the new Z looks great.
    Although I would say the GR86 and BRZ are closer in terms of weight, power, and affordability with the original Z goal in mind. Not to mention they are more fun to drive than the new Z.

  • @richardledesma1675
    @richardledesma1675 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jason Cammisa is an outstanding Journalist, I loved this episode and I love the ending with some pov and exterior audio with exhaust and engine noises !

  • @herberthall8082
    @herberthall8082 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 1972 I bought a Jaguar XKE roadster convertible. It was the greatest car I had, when it ran. I had continuous electrical and other problems with the minimum of available mechanical support. There just that wasn't that many dealerships or mechanics.
    In 1973, I bought a Datsun 510 sedan four-door. That was a great running car which worked well for its purpose and was easily repaired. I drove that car for many years and then parked it in my shed. Years later, I pulled the car out of the shed, we rebuilt it, and raced it in 4 cylinder enduro class on a 1/2 mile asphalt stock car track. It easily out handled the Ford Pintos that it raced against.
    In 1982, I bought a Datsun 1982 ZX 2+2, black with tan leather interior and t-tops. Fully loaded, it cost me $17,000. I really like that car and drove it for 8 years, 200,000 miles. At the end, the engine and drivetrain were still great. The only reason I got a different vehicle was that the interior and other parts have become worn.
    Your video made me realize how much Datsun has been a part of my driving history.

  • @DDMSteveB
    @DDMSteveB ปีที่แล้ว

    The overrun on that 432 is incredible. Great job to the audio engineers and editors on this one.

  • @VinceroAlpha
    @VinceroAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love the sound of the 432, imagine if they did that combination with the new Z! GTR engine in a 6 speed rwd configuration!

    • @NewbombTurk.
      @NewbombTurk. ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine the price tag....

    • @VinceroAlpha
      @VinceroAlpha ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NewbombTurk. well the original one was double the base MSRP, so it'll probably be the same.

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VinceroAlpha r35 engine sound so terrible...... It will be a down grade........

    • @VinceroAlpha
      @VinceroAlpha ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiguelGarcia-vj7ooare you saying that a engine that has been re-engineered from the ground up by a world renown race engine manufacturer with MULTIPLE wins to its name, a engine with that is documented to hold DOUBLE the horsepower the stock Z could RELIABLY, a engine that is HAND BUILT by veteran engine builders. You’re saying that is a downgrade? Then you are unequivocally wrong my friend, to the point where it’s mesmerizing.

  • @Timmayytoo
    @Timmayytoo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been in love with the 432 from the moment I laid eyes on that cam cover, but the closest I'll ever come to owning one is in Gran Turismo 7, which has one identical to the car in this video.

    • @adrianhunte6014
      @adrianhunte6014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol I bought it last week from the legends garage.

  • @concept2realitysobellc453
    @concept2realitysobellc453 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason.i was fortunate to have a 260z as my first car,bought from my pal Darryl 3mnths b4 I had passed my test!my gd fortune was that Darryl had bought lightweight front wings,bigger carbs,uprated new shocks/suspension brakes..and then he got banned for a year!!as I said,my good fortune!! My gd pal sean(to this day the best mechanic I've ever met!!)loaded it all and car on his flatbed and took it into his garage/ shop on dec27th..and fervently went to work putting it all together(just like humpty dumpty!)he even fitted a blaunkpunt stereo cassette,graphic equaliser and massive rear shelf speakers and 6mre speakers and electric windows in it..breathless!!best part he deliverd it to my door at 7pm on new yrs eve..just in time for me to go pick up my girlfreind for dinner and the best most epic new years eve night out i hve ever had!! And it ran and worked perfectly!!sean,like I said was and is my most fave mechanic.ever!thought. I wld share my love for my zcar. Hope u enjoyed my story..

  • @SupraSav
    @SupraSav 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The throttle response and the sound on that car are epic. I wish I could have driven something like that in my college days!

  • @dejanventer5330
    @dejanventer5330 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your videos! 1969 Gtr next please!🙌

    • @Kiss__Kiss
      @Kiss__Kiss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Black and White movies? Godzilla!!!!

    • @dejanventer5330
      @dejanventer5330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kiss__Kiss yesssss!

  • @elgenetiamzon1062
    @elgenetiamzon1062 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nissan can also technically represent the numbers 2 and 3 in Japanese. Also, "Niisan " is pronounced similarly to Nissan and it is the short form of Onii San, which is Japanese for: "big brother".

  • @galuhrichata6148
    @galuhrichata6148 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching Revelations with Jason Cammisa is like giving a strong fertilizer to our automotive passion. Love every second of it.

  • @mrburns7007
    @mrburns7007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats for the amazing show you run on ytb. It helped me understand the passion I see the eyes if my dad and his friends when they see a Datsun on the street.
    Was besser ist, dass ich einen zum Verkauf gefunden habe!!!
    Biss Bald