Gil's Arena ERUPTS Debating The Most Skilled NBA Players

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  • @KevinFrayer-pm8fr
    @KevinFrayer-pm8fr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +611

    People saying Kyrie Only Got Good Handles Clearly Don’t Watch Basketball

    • @NV_Tensa
      @NV_Tensa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      You missed the point whole video….most SKILLED. All 8 boxes

    • @joshlynn3185
      @joshlynn3185 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Kyrie is an excellent offensive player… but that’s ONE SIDE THO. We done with the 2020s

    • @andrewkong7676
      @andrewkong7676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Exactly, even Warriors Andre Iguadola admitted that Kyrie was and is a greater offensive threat than his own teammate Steph Frickin Curry (watch the podcast if you don't believe me)
      And some ppl say kyrie's handles too excessive, but 1)first of all that was in his young cavaliers and celtics days! Right now he is one helluva efficient scorer who deosn't do a several flashy moves to get by defenders, and 2)secondly, his handles being excessive is actually a frickin COMPLIMENT because it means he was able to afford to be flashy and do cool moves and actually end up getting by defenders which is harder to do than with simple effective moves!!!
      There is not a single player in this league who gets double or even triple teamed more than kyrie, and that's just a fact

    • @HomerunsamSOSA
      @HomerunsamSOSA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@andrewkong7676I was w you til u said it ain’t another player who gets doubles and trips on em
      Giannis
      Joker

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Kyrie is also a turnover machine, you clealry know that right?? hows kyrie skill can prevent it?

  • @Dilly_Dil1y
    @Dilly_Dil1y 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +341

    I’ve seen Kobe shoot the corner , spin move , fading to the side ,left handed 3 pt shot . Bucket….. like wtf

    • @killzone7890
      @killzone7890 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Against Dallas. Remember it like yesterday

    • @Dilly_Dil1y
      @Dilly_Dil1y 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@killzone7890 yep. Mark cuban was awestruck

    • @sosacapanese
      @sosacapanese 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      and kyrie hit a left handed floater leaning to the left a foot inside the 3pt line with a 7ft-er chasing him for the win

    • @awptsm
      @awptsm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Never ever was Kobe in the 90 50 40 for the season. Kobe killed his shot at most skilled player by relinquishing his era's greatness to try and become Jordan. Sorry Kobe but you did it to yourself

    • @van2.060
      @van2.060 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@awptsmwth does that have to do with SKILL?? Y'all are ridiculous lol

  • @talkenhead87
    @talkenhead87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +249

    1:49 "If he miss.... it's bc the rim trippin". No bap I feel that same way. I was flabbergasted when I saw Kyrie miss that outrageous layup. And so was he 😂😂

    • @niriboy8952
      @niriboy8952 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That wasn’t 1:49 lol

    • @talkenhead87
      @talkenhead87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@niriboy8952 Are you penalizing me for context??

    • @duncanjoiner7319
      @duncanjoiner7319 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Facts. Kyrie at the rim is a bucket lol

    • @clarkkeenanthesupermanimal1658
      @clarkkeenanthesupermanimal1658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think what Brandon said is as bout as accurate fr

    • @LiveFreeorDieTryinG
      @LiveFreeorDieTryinG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was @ the 2:14 mark

  • @DjAlizay
    @DjAlizay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    For some odd reason, Hakeem Olajuwon comes to mind as one of the most skilled players.

    • @pettywap1183
      @pettywap1183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he cant do shit but that wack dream shake...

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@pettywap1183 We done with you 2020's.

    • @DjAlizay
      @DjAlizay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pettywap1183 Kobe was his best student. 🙄

    • @pettywap1183
      @pettywap1183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DjAlizay kobe overated tho

    • @ItsYurVatoAlex
      @ItsYurVatoAlex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pettywap1183underrated

  • @majorna2142
    @majorna2142 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    15:13"he better go and see Jesus" got me laughing like a kid again😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @blackjesus6433
      @blackjesus6433 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes indeed. He better see me. 🙏🏾

  • @DaLumpy1
    @DaLumpy1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    You don’t see Kyrie do a LOT of things consistently because his BAG is ENDLESS!

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      and nothing special, he needs someone much better than him for him to shine, like Lebron, KD, Tatum and Luka

    • @moneyninja2023
      @moneyninja2023 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Facts

    • @MakaveliDior
      @MakaveliDior 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@joeymannynot true

    • @edgarhernandezcorona7182
      @edgarhernandezcorona7182 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MakaveliDioryes true
      Cry to your momma

    • @Junyah_
      @Junyah_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@joeymanny bro Kyrie been Kyrie since Kyrie started basketball he’s gone shine regardless if he’s the best player in the team or the 5th best player on the team, y’all don’t make any sense at all

  • @Ben2bwild
    @Ben2bwild 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    With all those categories Gil listed, it would be Kobe. He literally has no weaknesses and checks all the boxes. For me, it's Kobe and Kyrie. I've seen Kobe play a whole game left handed after injuring his shoulder.

    • @awptsm
      @awptsm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Gil is off on this one. LeBron dribbles but never been a skillful dribbler

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @awptsm he didn't say Bron checked all the boxes though

    • @sekeeclarke7476
      @sekeeclarke7476 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      kobe and Mike at one time in their careers was avg. at shooting and handling the ball effectively. Kobe and Mike volume shooter.6'7 /6'8and posting up smaller players ... Kyrie can post smaller and bigger Athletic wings .....
      Kobe forced a lot of shots Early on just like Mike utilizing their athletic gifts to score ... They also was fortunate to be 6'6/6'7 and
      Gil said jumping is skill ? How do you evaluate a jumping skill ? Height / Athletic parameters will skew the score... A skill is acquiring a level of expertise ... I challenge Gil to come up with the list first that defines best skill ever then let's score it...
      Mike and Thomas are the only ones that would score higher then Kyrie if done correctly... Kyrie's Efficiency should scale him to the top of the list ! Defense is not a liability but no where need a Mike or Kobe .. Kyrie doesn't just dribble and if you watch the games he moves exceptional well with out the ball and still scores ... He is a great rebounder at his position ... I put his basketball
      IQ at the top of the food chain as well...

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @sekeeclarke7476 Kobe and Mike are 6'6" and posted but smaller, stronger, and bigger players. You wrote all that just to be wrong lol

    • @sekeeclarke7476
      @sekeeclarke7476 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't say they didn't post bigger players what I expressed was they had size advantage at time based upon they height and play calling .. Height ok.. Depending who you ask.. 6'6 or 6'7' listed .. Kyrie regardless of the advantage can post big and small..

  • @Dolo4Sure
    @Dolo4Sure 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    Kyrie’s had a 50,40,90 season. I think Kyrie is more skilled. Especially when you factor in his height and the degree of difficulty to do what he does. He’s not a better player than Kobe but I’ll give him a slight edge on skill.

    • @iBeKillinDem23
      @iBeKillinDem23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Just go watch Kobe highlights bro there was nothing he couldn’t do offensively he. He’s made a left handed 3 against Dallas. A left handed post up shot against the pelicans. Turn around fade from 3 against a double team against Portland. And many more bro. Just go look

    • @devantepearson
      @devantepearson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Kd has 3 50 40 90 seasons 🥱

    • @harlan5339
      @harlan5339 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iBeKillinDem23lebron did that too but i dont say lebron because he shoot both hands. Like imma say they not comparable. Kyrie coming off the dribble on his assassin but kobe getting it from the point guard then going to work. So you not gonna see him dribble and kyrie same thing

    • @HoopsRaccoon
      @HoopsRaccoon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      when skill is mentioned, skill is everything on the court, not just how you score. Lebron, mj, kd, kobe are the types that do EVERYTHING. Kyrie is not the most skilled, gifted scoring? Maybe, most skilled ? Hell no!!!!

    • @hoodierell1669
      @hoodierell1669 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly people ain’t factoring in his height bro shi he’s doing is insane and he can shoot with the best of em🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @demarquisjohnson5697
    @demarquisjohnson5697 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    TIM Duncan is The Poster Child for Skills at Both ends of The Court!

    • @jonmcmann6811
      @jonmcmann6811 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      would you rather have Duncan at PF or Giannis?

    • @cw6072
      @cw6072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Duncan

    • @MMHSeon
      @MMHSeon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jonmcmann6811Timmy.

    • @homeboymarcos
      @homeboymarcos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tim

    • @Warriors7670
      @Warriors7670 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Duncan has zero handles

  • @livefromthemotherland
    @livefromthemotherland 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honorable mention to a prime rose. Had an incredible capacity to adjust his shot mid air around the rim when the defense collapsed around him. Underrated finishing ability

    • @youngfire9361
      @youngfire9361 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rose didn’t post up

  • @HODGEWORLDENT
    @HODGEWORLDENT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    Rashad gets me every time he say "why you come to me first?!! "😂😂

    • @MrDboi92
      @MrDboi92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      “Im Merely A Host” 😂

    • @g..._anthony27
      @g..._anthony27 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      gets you?

    • @camcruise9600
      @camcruise9600 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@g..._anthony27English isn’t your first language ?

    • @NV_Tensa
      @NV_Tensa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@camcruise9600not his first language for sure

    • @NonamenoHAndle000
      @NonamenoHAndle000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrDboi92 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I hate when Josiah drops that sorry line

  • @ThatBo03
    @ThatBo03 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I'd rather have Kyrie with Kobe's height than the other way around. I'm sure Kobe would take pride in people ranking Kyrie over him in skill since he was a protégé of his.

    • @bryceking717
      @bryceking717 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This prolly the best thing I’ve read lol cause I swear I be arguing with the homies lol

    • @westside8514
      @westside8514 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kyrie don’t got Kobe defense though and when your taller , your dribbles aren’t the same when you’re 6”1
      Take it from someone who’s played professional basketball before *

    • @pedroelpapiinthe
      @pedroelpapiinthe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Kyrie does not have the athleticism that Kobe had nor the defense so Kobe would’ve still be more skilled.

    • @gforcedod
      @gforcedod 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kobe had more hart, it’s also about how much energy you put in it, the rpm your heart is running with. Kobe had higher energy put then Kyrie. Therefore I would have taken Kobe even if he was same size as Kyrie. Maybe Kyrie is able of that amount of shifting because of the smaller size.

    • @dalebruno5201
      @dalebruno5201 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kyrie is wayyyyyy to spotty one night he’s dropping 35 next night he’s dropping 18 to 20

  • @arvinvillanueva629
    @arvinvillanueva629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This is one the best episodes for me. Lol i love how heated their debate is. Kudos to Jennings for not backing down. Keep these fire conversations up 💪🏼 educated those analysts who doesnt know the feeling of playing on the court.

  • @_bassadd1ct_
    @_bassadd1ct_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Why is Shrek and Hulk in Gucci on this mans shirt 😹😹😹

    • @DeRock401
      @DeRock401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cuz he is HIM

  • @dariusc6313
    @dariusc6313 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I could swear that McCants once said that Kobe was better than Lebron because of how Kobe made it look more skillful.... he just flipped this on Brandon Jennings. Saying a bucket is a bucket. Make up your damn mind McCants!

    • @FreeAgent797
      @FreeAgent797 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm glad you caught that. He's a Lebron hater lol

  • @WestCoastCheeseHead
    @WestCoastCheeseHead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    “Because no has broken down wtf skill is” you spit Gil💯

    • @g..._anthony27
      @g..._anthony27 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what?

    • @elislifestyle4605
      @elislifestyle4605 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @JohnnytNaturalbeing 7 foot tall don’t make it skilled. He’s suppose to get rebounds compared to 6’2 guard

    • @kdubsosolid
      @kdubsosolid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No that’s not it…Ofrensive skill my guy..Things that you can actually learn. He mentioned attributes that in basketball comes with height and size not skill.

    • @hundunfamilia8952
      @hundunfamilia8952 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No he’s not his skills or ONLY more effective cause he mostly has the ball NEAR THE BASKET where Kylie has to MOSLTY use his skills to get to the basket Kylie is WAY more skilled than jokic, jokic doesn’t have to use his skills as much as Kyrie also because he is a 7 footer

    • @tbjb009
      @tbjb009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@JohnnytNaturalJokic is nowhere near as skilled as Kyrie....don't get too excited there 😂😂😂

  • @moicheezy2431
    @moicheezy2431 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Kyrie is the most skilled offensively. They could stay there with all that talking

    • @mandunya
      @mandunya 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Cap

    • @Saviiq
      @Saviiq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Kobe and him are a tie

    • @SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming
      @SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Saviiqnahh Kobe don’t have Kyrie package

    • @MGB2408
      @MGB2408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Kobe is more skilled

    • @SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming
      @SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MGB2408 false. Kyrie is too technical with Skill you can’t replicate it.

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    Gil speaking facts Since when is most skilled of all time only based on ball handling ?

    • @KingMcElvy
      @KingMcElvy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Nobody is saying that because just ball handling. It’s Kobe though for sure but this comment is inaccurate

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@KingMcElvy you'd be surprised. I've read many comments saying it's Kyrie just because he has better handles than Kobe

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@KingMcElvy literally every time this talking point gets fired up again about kyrie being the most skilled it’s because of some crazy crossover or some and1 mixtape layup

    • @CaliKidd1001
      @CaliKidd1001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Naw it’s finishing in all with Kai

    • @Clarkbar79
      @Clarkbar79 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@KingMcElvyIt's Lebron over Kobe. Lebron can do it all at the high level. Kobe don't make no player better.

  • @robertopokukwanin1019
    @robertopokukwanin1019 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The key word here is “Skilled” not best handles or dribbler. Skilled means he can shoot 3’s, good with his middies, can pass well, dunk well, can defend and also can post up. So in my humble opinion my best 10.
    1. MJ
    2. Kobe (RIP Black Mamba)
    3. Kyrie
    4. King James
    5. Steph “The Chef” Curry
    6. Hakeem “The Dream”Olajuwon
    7. AI “The Answer “
    8. Jamal Crawford
    9. White Chocolate
    10. Tim Hardaway

  • @ctrammell3
    @ctrammell3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    McCan’t ain’t never even been in the same area code as a 50 point game. He needs to stop it. In a 5 year career he averages less than 10ppg. Dude is delusional

    • @blakegowavy
      @blakegowavy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he made it into the league in a world of niggas that didnt make it into the league

    • @avyoneray9163
      @avyoneray9163 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He’s still a pro!

    • @JP-ks3kh
      @JP-ks3kh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@avyoneray9163 so what. his takes are trash

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop what?

    • @AnaGutierrez-l4d
      @AnaGutierrez-l4d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      mccants played in phillippines and didn’t even dominate man😢

  • @maximelatruddexzdbercedee3805
    @maximelatruddexzdbercedee3805 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Based on what gilbert said, olajuwon is the most skilled of all time, he had everything

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes Olajuwon is because of his skills he becomes an all time great and Franchise player, Kyrie didnt even made top 75 or become a franchise player

    • @tafarrii
      @tafarrii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@joeymannyi can tell you a casual just by the answer

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tafarrii and yet you calling me casual and you dint have any context, first of all olajuwon is a center it is very difficult for a 7 footer to do crossover ,and front up your defender doing guard moves but still he is doing it in a regular basis, He is a big man with bigger hands and easier to steal the ball since he bounce alot higher compare to guards and its hard to contro a dribble with large hands because it will be like dribbling a tennis ball. Skillwise Olajuwon is arguably the best since nobody can do things he consistently doing, like they mention wemby ball handling skills looks good as a big but it takes alot of skill to do that as 7'5". Will I penalize Kyrie post up game if he is so limited to do back to the basket? , hell no because he got disadvantage when bigger guards guarding him. A guy like olajuwon who dribble like a gurd is harder than any guard who does the same moves

    • @itslight8294
      @itslight8294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tafarriifor sure

  • @conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154
    @conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    This is Gil’s most factual take.
    Holy shit he was on the money.

    • @je5406
      @je5406 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍

    • @oodlesnnoodles8670
      @oodlesnnoodles8670 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No he was not, he actually didn’t make any sense

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@oodlesnnoodles8670 He is he put skills into context, Visual skills have no value if they cant result to changing the goal post. Skilled player like Larry legend move the goal post and does impact the game thats why Larry is a Franchise player while Kyrie is not

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joeymannybruh. What? U Tweakin😂

    • @miquaelross8760
      @miquaelross8760 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man Gil made 0 sense 😂😂😂

  • @yandhijpeg
    @yandhijpeg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    “Never seen anyone like Kobe” mj???😂😂

    • @thomasmaan1610
      @thomasmaan1610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      MJ rarely shoot 3s

    • @bluesafari5405
      @bluesafari5405 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      💯💥💥💥You hv to put prime D.Rose in there too. Prime rose was a rare species, foreal.

    • @jamesmcneil6527
      @jamesmcneil6527 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Kobe had more foot work than mj in the post and fade

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jamesmcneil6527 and cant score better than MJ, Kobe has more bricks like Russel westbrook, while MJ is in the elite efficiency and the game looks so easy to MJ because he knows how to use his skills in different situation than kobe

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @cheatingscoobydoo can we consider clutch a skill? If so then who is more clutch Kobe or MJ?

  • @Hillsider.247
    @Hillsider.247 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Most skilled Its MJ or lebron in all categories 1tier .. Kobe and T-Mac(before the injuries)in the 2tier.. BUT if you talking about most skilled OFFENSIVELY it's hands down Kyrie!!!

  • @boombenjamin92
    @boombenjamin92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    T-Mac, Vince, Kobe, Kyrie, AI, MJ. T-Mac, Bron, Wade, Dominique Wilkins etc. Tracy McGrady could do it all pass, block, great fake moves, steals, dunking, shooting, post game, his lengthy body had the peefect build for a basketabll player etc. If T-Mac wasn't layed back type he can do it all!! Paul George had a chance to be T-Mac all the way if he was more aggressive but Paul is a calm smooth player with pure talent. T-Mac, Kobe, and Kyrie has a lot of highlights of switching scoring with their left hands a lot. Mac and Kobe has left hand dunks and posters. Kyrie and Iverson layup package is crazy. I'll even throw young Derrick Rose in skills he just didn't have the best jumper and jumpshot ability of shooting, Rose had to develop that later.

    • @oneofone_1333
      @oneofone_1333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus he‘s playmaking 🔥

  • @doubleAgent_003
    @doubleAgent_003 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Most skill is definitely just offense only. It’s the ability to get buckets by any means necessary. Kobe adapted to the adaptation. Makes the most difficult shots. Cmon man. Easy to me

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      wrong rebounding, defense, pick and roll etc. are skills too . Charles barkley is 6'4" but he dominates the rebounds and post up game with skills not only physical attributes. Same as Larry Bird, Prime Larry is 30-10-9 shooting 57% fg 40% 3 pt. Larry knows how to rebound technically and facilitate the ball better than kyrie. Skills is more than one on one play which is just a single criteria of skills

    • @elaboraterjohnson7321
      @elaboraterjohnson7321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!!! If a guy could SKILLFULLY grab rebounds and Defense but the next guy can SKILLFULLY shoot and dribble. We definitely taking the second guy over the first guy because offense beats defense!!!!

    • @scorpionvseverybody6524
      @scorpionvseverybody6524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@joeymannyYou guys need to go look up what the definition of what a skill is as far as it pertains to basketball because you obviously don't understand the question

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@elaboraterjohnson7321 and yet that guy you choose kyrie is never been a franchise player but 2nd fiddle guy at best, LArry Legend skills is elite and can dominate a decade win rings as FRANCHISE PLAYER, we saw kyrie been the guy for Cavs and they are bottom feeder, NJ Nets bottom feeder without KD, and he is not even that good with the celtics with so called skills. With all his offense highlight he is just not that good enough to be a dominant skilled payer, But Larry legend is

    • @blackjesus6433
      @blackjesus6433 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope! MJ. 🙏🏾

  • @Jefesports
    @Jefesports 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Gil actually broke this down right! This is facts 💎

  • @bbott137
    @bbott137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you wanna say he is the most skilled ever, you also gotta say he is the most underachieving player ever. Cuz if you that good you coulda done more.

  • @justinlee1524
    @justinlee1524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    gilbert the question is obviously asking who has the deepest offensive bag lol they way you tryna warp the question, you might as well just be asking who the greatest player of all time is

  • @bigskiibop4147
    @bigskiibop4147 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Brandon Jennings on it Gil and McCants lookin at it wrong we saying who is the most skilled no weakness in the offensive game kyrie has none , bird has weaknesses and so does Jordan and Lebron. Fadeaways shooting left right post 3 mid , most elite rack game ever shift all that

    • @legendarygreat1064
      @legendarygreat1064 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the thing is, they’re talking about skill as a WHOLE, not jus offensively. yes kyrie offensive wise , skill is prolly unmatched til you add in guys like kobe. but like gil said, factor everything into skill, w both ends of the spectrum, it’s gon be kobe everytime.

    • @peterkoroma7876
      @peterkoroma7876 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the only weakness bron has is free throws lmao

    • @jamesmcneil6527
      @jamesmcneil6527 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@peterkoroma7876
      Lebron don’t have foot work though
      Jordan and Kobe had that foot work that’s a skill too

    • @peterkoroma7876
      @peterkoroma7876 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the internet has just turned into a marathon of hate lmao. Pushing whatever bias i might have to the side that dude does have good footwork, if he didn't I'd say just like how I've called him out for his free throws@@jamesmcneil6527

    • @capoc2320
      @capoc2320 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesmcneil6527bron is very quick he just blow past his opponents. He really don’t need it. Kobe and MJ had to develop those foot work as they gotten older for post up and mid range. Older bron is still taking it to the paint like he young man

  • @MyYoutubeHandle1
    @MyYoutubeHandle1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    If we talking 5 level scorer we gotta talk about Carmelo!

    • @SteveGOML
      @SteveGOML 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Melo 🐐

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Problem is y’all only concerned about offense/scoring. 🤤

  • @josiahgarmon8381
    @josiahgarmon8381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think when people say “most skilled” they really mean most aesthetically pleasing. When you look at their game you are just in awe because of how it looks. I hope that makes a little bit of sense

  • @Brantley_ZA
    @Brantley_ZA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Did Gill just say Curry can't rebound? 🤯

  • @skineyemin4276
    @skineyemin4276 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gil is 100% correct with his assessments.

  • @1maxout
    @1maxout 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Nick van exel is hella slept on

    • @Infamousjr719
      @Infamousjr719 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Him and grant hill.

    • @aubhreypender3091
      @aubhreypender3091 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Infamousjr719grant hill ain’t in the discussion. No jumpshot.

    • @Infamousjr719
      @Infamousjr719 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@aubhreypender3091 casual take. 😭

    • @BigDic-qz8su
      @BigDic-qz8su 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@aubhreypender3091before injuries he was a monster and problem

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aubhreypender3091 G Hill game half of his game is perimter shooting both Duke and his early pistons. G-Hil quality shots is better than kyrie, because theres no wasted motion

  • @MrWoo-jc8nt
    @MrWoo-jc8nt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Before they ask these questions, they should say "not including Jordan". 😂

    • @cyberbron2024
      @cyberbron2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jordan is definitely not in the most skilled player conversation. He never will be. Same thing for Bron, Kareem and more. Skill is how many moves you have in your bag to get off a shot.

    • @lolocarr4561
      @lolocarr4561 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@cyberbron2024you just said Jordan wasn’t skilled but would say Kobe was is kinda fuckin hypocritical

    • @cyberbron2024
      @cyberbron2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lolocarr4561 how. Kobe was more skilled than Jordan. I never said Jordan wasn’t skilled, he’s just not as skilled as Kobe.

    • @DarrellHardy-p8q
      @DarrellHardy-p8q 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@cyberbron2024I disagree! I think MJ was more skilled than Kobe or Kyrie 💯 better scorer, defender, passer, rebounder, steals, and blocks.. more efficient, more fundamentally sound, more clutch, etc...

    • @LiveFreeorDieTryinG
      @LiveFreeorDieTryinG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DarrellHardy-p8qpreach!

  • @jayscott5387
    @jayscott5387 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Dumbing it down for more ppl to fit in."
    That's so on point 💯

  • @leftyloose8576
    @leftyloose8576 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Kyrie doing things I’ve seen Jordan and Kobe do around a rim. It’s CAP. Only young people in highschool think Kyrie is the most skilled player ever. That’s WILD

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He just hit a left-handed hook-shot runner-floater buzzer-beater from beyond the free throw line. Versus the 7-footer of the reigning champs.

    • @allonzotate7497
      @allonzotate7497 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly i wanna kno when he seen a PG do that​@@penkima4923

    • @whodis5438
      @whodis5438 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kyrie has nice handles, layup package, and i’ll even give him credit for being clutch, but i’ve always thought he’s been slightly overrated when it comes to this most “skilled” debate. i honestly think Steph might even be nicer in all those guard categories except finishing, with a coin flip for handles, but then extends the gap with his floater game (at which Kyrie’s no slouch) and of course the 3 ball. that’s just O of course not D. when it comes to complete game it’s MJ, Kobe, KD. T-Mac could be in the conversation. Bird too, he was ahead of his time. LeBron gets into the top 5, above Larry, for combining strength and finesse, but also his playmaking and court vision. Kyrie might be top 10 but that’s only if you’re going with a very specific set of criteria. Even now, if we expand the definition I think Joker and Luka might clear him due to how uniquely effective their style of play is.

    • @doomcity85
      @doomcity85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need to play basketball cause theres bo way you have this opinion if you actually hoop ​@@whodis5438

    • @junito2899
      @junito2899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@penkima4923 not impressed with that shit! I seen much better clutch moments! Next!

  • @Kjherr24
    @Kjherr24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I agree with Gil breakdown; Kobe is the most skilled imo.

  • @JKk-bc9ql
    @JKk-bc9ql 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Basketball skills broken down by degree of specificity to the sport
    Primary skills ( skills that you would only use on a basketball court):
    1) putting the ball in the basket, ie shooting, lay ups, floaters, runners, hooks ( dunking is more a feat of athletic prowess than a skill that can be achieved by most through practice)
    2) dribbling
    Secondary skills ( skills that are generally used in various sports and can carry over effectiveness on a basketball court):
    1) passing (qbs, pitchers, pgs usually share similar traits that make them great passers)
    2) footwork ( athletes with great footwork usually excel at being comfortable and effective in navigating various defensive tactics)
    3) iq ( athletes with the ability to process what's happening on the court/field more quickly usually have an advantage over ones who don't, even if they aren't as physically capable)
    Tertiary "skills" ( these are less skills and more traits or qualities that are usually useful in athletic competition, certainly not specific in any way to basketball):
    1) speed
    2) strength
    3) agility
    4) jumping ability
    5) size
    6) stamina
    7) confidence
    8) emotional stability
    9) willpower
    10) durability
    If we go by this scale i don't think anyone surpasses Kyrie but I'm curious to see how others feel

    • @JKk-bc9ql
      @JKk-bc9ql 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      (A+ in both primary skills).
      Kyrie is the best all around shot maker and ball handler with either hand. He does things with the ball on the regular, against the absolute best defenders in the world that I've never seen anyone else ever do on any level. I can't think of many moves I've seen anyone else do in an nba game that he hasn't. Kobe's the only comp but Kyrie got more in his bag imo.
      (A- passer) He's a very good-great passer, certainly not top tier in this category but brilliant nonetheless, rarely turns the ball over. (A+ footwork) His offensive footwork is second to none. Whether he's facing the basket with a live dribble or back to the basket, triple threat or going full speed, and everything in between, the footwork is impeccable. (B+ iq) he knows what he's doing for sure but I wouldn't say he's shown to see the game as well as the savants (cp3, kidd, nash, bron, luka, joker, rondo etc)
      Third tier skills can be debated till the cows come home none of them can qualify a player as the most skilled in the sport of basketball even with all perfect scores. Ie Giannis. (Skill ≠ effectiveness, if Giannis had a reasonably reliable mid range id take him over anyone in history besides LeBron).
      Also defense and rebounding are more dependent on third tier skills than anything else, iq n footwork can factor in but they won't help u defend or rebound if u lack those third tier skills.

    • @sekeeclarke7476
      @sekeeclarke7476 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a really good Analysis….. Thku. 👏 👏 👏 🔥…

    • @JKk-bc9ql
      @JKk-bc9ql 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very grateful for the feedback!@@sekeeclarke7476

  • @ltri-fehl2955
    @ltri-fehl2955 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Vince Carter and Tmac are easily upper echelon there was nothing absolutely nothing they couldn’t do and they both did it with the most ease!

  • @hadanokuroi
    @hadanokuroi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ridiculous. He only plays one side of the ball.

  • @earnestrobinson7564
    @earnestrobinson7564 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This show is truly an existential, analytical, conversational breakdown of basketball at every angle! I love this show!

  • @10-illmatic
    @10-illmatic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Gill always wake up hate talk with Kyrie.

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he is telling the truth, visual presentation is just visual, the like of Larry Bird will destroy you with the same possesion that you didnt know what hit you. larry might be slow but he so skilled he can dominate a a big dand strong defender and also a quicker shorter defender. He is unstoppable I would rank Larry above Kyrie all the time with the rules when larry is dominating

    • @10-illmatic
      @10-illmatic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeymanny VISUAL PRESENTATION?? SO IS IT HAPPENING OR JUST AN ILLUSION? FICTION? OR IMAGINARY? EVERYTHING TECHNICALLY IS VISUAL PRESENTATION. MY PRESENTATION JUST BETTER. I PASS ALL CLASSES. FINISHING, SHOOTING, OFF THE DRIBBLE SHOOTING, POST UP, MIDDY, FLOATERS, ELBOW WORK. AND IT LOOKS GORGEOUS. SAUCE GOAT.
      LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY HALL OF FAME. THATS LIKE SAYING JIM BROWN WAS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN BARRY SANDERS. OR DARRELL REVIS IS BETTER THAN PRIME TIME. JOHN STOCKTON BETTER THAN IVERSON. LMAO 🤣 CONTEXT WAS SKILL, GILL REBUTTAL STOPPED AT DRIBBLING LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣.

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@10-illmatic again lets put the skill in context, the goal is to win basketball and deliver, Kyrie skills is nothing but visuals but overall, his impact is not better than bad boy isaih thomas and Larry legend skillwise. Bird and Thomas are not fancy but highly effective than kyrie, driving the lane, get by a defender or double team, iso plays, and moving without the ball. Larry and thomas is not a fancy dribbler but they take the ball much better while kyrie is a turbnover machine, thats why it needs to be in context

    • @10-illmatic
      @10-illmatic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joeymanny The highest level of sports is to not only win, but win in style. If you're so great, you can be dominant and dominate in fashion. That separates the great from the legendary. Kyrie toys with opponents. He can do what they can do, they can never do what he does.

    • @abtocool6350
      @abtocool6350 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeymannyso does that mean Thomas and bird are turnover machines?, because they average more than kyrie for their careers.🤔

  • @chrismerard8161
    @chrismerard8161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think, being exceptional in a few skills is better them being intermediate in more skills. The overall aspect of Skills can give you a a number from 0 to 10. Yet, most people are wired to see exceptional as the best allthough it may not be on all sides of the skill sets.

    • @juliandozier2628
      @juliandozier2628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Said perfectly! Just because someone does more things, doesn’t make them more skilled. “A man of many things but a master of nothing”

  • @ricocalvin5530
    @ricocalvin5530 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Kobe said Curry is a killer 😂😂 Gilbert trippin

    • @yuryberrios7003
      @yuryberrios7003 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      At 3s only..... His dribbling is overrated..... I watched him play against the lakers & he doesn't / can't dribble past anyone.... But great at coming off screens with or without the ball..... Plus isn't clutch

    • @userzo30
      @userzo30 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@yuryberrios7003you def don’t know ball casual

    • @ytvel4273
      @ytvel4273 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Kobe is the more skilled player because he has more aspects of the game as a whole checked. Doesn’t mean Curry isn’t a killer, he’s just not as skilled as Kobe in the game.

    • @supahmariostyle
      @supahmariostyle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ytvel4273 bingo

    • @andrewkong7676
      @andrewkong7676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I gotta disagree with you, cuz Warriors player Andre Iguadola admitted that Kyrie was and is a greater offensive threat than his own teammate Steph Frickin Curry (watch the podcast if you don't believe me)
      And some ppl say kyrie's handles too excessive, but 1)first of all that was in his young cavaliers and celtics days! Right now he is one helluva efficient scorer who deosn't do a several flashy moves to get by defenders, and 2)secondly, his handles being excessive is actually a frickin COMPLIMENT because it means he was able to afford to be flashy and do cool moves and actually end up getting by defenders which is harder to do than with simple effective moves!!!
      There is not a single player in this league who gets double or even triple teamed and is able to make shots more than kyrie, and that's just a fact

  • @fairgamewithtjorum
    @fairgamewithtjorum 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So Kyrie doesn’t have the ability to score 50 points like what are we doing here?
    I’m rolling with B Jennings in this one because you cannot minimize Kai as someone who just dribbles and put on a show.
    TF

    • @itslight8294
      @itslight8294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea like Kyrie can score off ball. Off the triple threat. Post-up,. You can’t minimize Kyrie to just dribbling.

  • @dboyfly24
    @dboyfly24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lebron and jj about to kill every podcast😂

  • @acephalos5026
    @acephalos5026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Did Rashad ever even score 50 in an NBA game??

    • @jawill24
      @jawill24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He played 4 seasons and averaged 10 points a game and career high is 34 unless you counting all those over seas games

    • @emaan3259
      @emaan3259 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Have you scored any points in the nba??

    • @hoodyplz
      @hoodyplz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I scored as much as he did at my age 🥱

    • @dextermills8168
      @dextermills8168 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can you even get 5 in an NBA game ?
      The nerve of you casuals is really telling

    • @acephalos5026
      @acephalos5026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@emaan3259 I’m not the one talking about giving someone 50 🤣🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @datsapaddlin
    @datsapaddlin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Kyrie definitely one of the most offensively skilled ever but he’s better as a second option on a contender if he’s gonna win a championship.

    • @elislifestyle4605
      @elislifestyle4605 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s most point guard’s

  • @ComeONnowThePodcast
    @ComeONnowThePodcast 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Skilled??? …actually agree with Gilbert. Skills are not just offense. Skills are all around and kyrie can’t guard a parked car. Lebron, Larry Bird are probably the two most skilled players in history. Bird could score from anywhere in any direction. Imagine if Bird could actually jump more than 6 inches off the ground. Recency bias is insane today. Kyrie is a great player. He is not the most skilled guy of all time.

    • @JoeNeely
      @JoeNeely 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly.

    • @AntiSewingCircleChristianity
      @AntiSewingCircleChristianity 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would go Bron, bird, MJ, kobe in that order.

    • @tifjffi8105
      @tifjffi8105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Larry bird??? Kobe n bron yeah

    • @ComeONnowThePodcast
      @ComeONnowThePodcast 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tifjffi8105did you see Larry bird play? Serious question. Even Gilbert said Larry Bird. Bird made ten shots left handed in one game. Bird’s passing was elite. Bird was an elite shooter. Bird could score from anywhere. In fact, he was more dangerous offensively than Kyrie. He would average 35 or 40 in today’s game with his skills.

    • @tifjffi8105
      @tifjffi8105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ComeONnowThePodcast yes I’ve watched plenty of bird. Not better than Kobe tho is all I’m trying to say

  • @RayHolloway-nq5yx
    @RayHolloway-nq5yx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gil is right on the criteria and that the meaning of these words are vague
    However; talent you have naturally , skill is hours and hours perfecting a specific area
    Sure there is some skill and intelligence involved but Defense and Rebounding is heavily more about physicals, size, effort and motor. Aka your talent

  • @maagastaalimo1442
    @maagastaalimo1442 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing that makes Kyrie game great is that he plays in a way that he doesn't have a skillset because he can really do anything he wants. You can't plan against Kyrie. Everything you do he will just play around it. Kobe was more of a machine. In that all the moves he's doing he's done it maybe hundred times every single day. It literally doesn't matter what type of defense you put on him. He doesn't even need to see the basket. It's systematic. Since he repeats every move he does so often, he improves it by improving the move itself. Jump higher, move quicker. Everything gots to be perfect and even if he did make it perfect. He'd go right back into the gym to work on it even more. It required a lot of willpower and athleticism. It's why he had such a downturn at the end of his career.
    Most skillful has to be Micheal. Not by a lot of course. But Micheal had one thing Kobe doesn't have and that he can palm the ball. This gave Micheal a ton of control over the ball movement that Kobe didn't have cause he couldnt do it. I mean Kobe did train in that he CAN but its not natural. Micheal had big hands. He had natural control over that ball. Thats why his layup game is so much more crazy then other even in todays standards.

  • @LJE3
    @LJE3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Elite Gil Logic here.

  • @1muneymic
    @1muneymic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mane forgot to MENTION endurance and elusive when it comes to Curry!

    • @user-hl6uj1ig9f
      @user-hl6uj1ig9f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Off Dribble shots, Court vision playmaking, shooting Range , Curry checks more boxes of skill set.

  • @420evaday7
    @420evaday7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You gotta guard curry when he get to the parking lot - Lebron

  • @meciabailey3721
    @meciabailey3721 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great conversation 👏🏾 great break down

  • @munchiesfrankenstein894
    @munchiesfrankenstein894 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rebounding is a skill, playmaking is a skill, defense is a skill. There's more to the game then scoring

  • @TheAlchemistCollective
    @TheAlchemistCollective 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I know the context wasn’t there……..but I think what separates Kyrie is the guts to take those shots and make them on a consistent basis but his stylistic points are off the charts! I can’t believe they left off Pistol Pete though

  • @R.Outler
    @R.Outler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Jennings will always be salty about his career ending early. He argues like a bitter ex. 😂😂

    • @228allday
      @228allday 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was 14 in 08 when I seen dude play in the McDonald's game I thought Arizona was finna win the chip that Year if he didn't go overseas

    • @R.Outler
      @R.Outler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@228allday He should definitely be on the "What if HE didn't get hurt?" list.

    • @jawill24
      @jawill24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He played 11 years unlike macants 4 lol

    • @R.Outler
      @R.Outler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jawill24 and a whole 15 ppg

  • @BlizzVisionFilms
    @BlizzVisionFilms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Kyrie is easily the most skilled offensive player ever bro… cut it out … he can NOT be stopped at all for his size. The moves and level of difficulty in his bag is TOP TIER

    • @OmarOutin
      @OmarOutin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s for him to have fun but what does he average?

    • @ronmoody3001
      @ronmoody3001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      CANT BE STOPPED....BUT ZERO SCORING TITLES AND NEVER HAS AVG 30.....
      SO.....WHERE IS THE UNSTOPPABLE WORD COMING FROM....HE IS CURRENTLY AVG A WHOLE 10pts LESS THAN LUKA

    • @jordanpayton2149
      @jordanpayton2149 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like you Described Kobe to be honest. Only thing you forgot is we play defense over here while busting yo ass 😈🤣

    • @chrispina9266
      @chrispina9266 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kobe

    • @dooda_tmc
      @dooda_tmc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ronmoody3001 Being most skilled doesn’t haft to equal up to that level of production and the only reason he doesn’t average 30 is cause he don’t try to get to the free throw line he’s about buckets Shai is averaging 30 rite now because he shoots 8-10 free throws a game while Kyrie shoots 3-4 free throws a game so the only thing that separate them is free throws, actually Kyrie scores more actual points than Shai not including free throws, If Kyrie averaged the same amount of free throws as Shai he’ll be averaging 32ppg 👌 And that’s while being the 2nd option to 🗣️

  • @AlextheeGreat2k
    @AlextheeGreat2k 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Shrek and Hulk shirt is killin me😂😂

  • @Calebc95
    @Calebc95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kyrie has played 337 out of the last 555 games. Damn he be missing missing.

  • @papalane2729
    @papalane2729 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    They just hating on Kyrie, Ky mastered everything Rashaad said he doesn’t have or do. He geeking!! Hate @ it’s finest!!

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sounds like the truth to me... Kyrie is mad nice, but the most skilled... IDK. He's on a team with a guy that is arguably equally or more skilled than he is

    • @yoitshim1
      @yoitshim1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would it be hate when they said if anything kyrie would be number 2 behind someone like kobe😂

    • @ThatBo03
      @ThatBo03 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@iluvcakes19What does Luka do better than Kyrie that can't be directly attributed to his size advantage?

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatBo03 assist, circus shots from deep (could be equal), score consistently, and LEAD a team into the playoffs. The last point especially but I won't go into that. However, Luka is NOT athletic but somehow is a walking triple double...if that isn't a testament to his skill IDK what is.

    • @Kilpatrick88
      @Kilpatrick88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iluvcakes19Luka is no where as near as skilled as Kai

  • @21kpetts
    @21kpetts 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kyrie having a cookout with any 🥷 on this pod Agent 0️⃣ included that’s BIG FAX

    • @deejjay7442
      @deejjay7442 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ong😭

  • @johnbell1487
    @johnbell1487 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Kobe was more skilled than Jordan

    • @MrWoo-jc8nt
      @MrWoo-jc8nt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chill

    • @Kickzsince86
      @Kickzsince86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No sir

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they are close, tell me MJ cant do that Kobe can?? But effciencywise MJ is far more better than Kobe. Its like skills doesnt matter if you aint efficient, look at jamal Crawford he is more skilled than Kawhi but no way near jamal can be efficient as Kawhi, or lets Karl Anthony towns has more bag than shaq but 100% nobody will pick Kat over prime shaq because skills means nothing if you aint efficient

    • @ssjsal2159
      @ssjsal2159 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He took what jordan had and expanded

    • @mx_DREAMCHASER95
      @mx_DREAMCHASER95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was not

  • @iali00
    @iali00 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Rashad was bum in the NBA but he talking shit to Jennings who actually killed.

    • @Bornpoe
      @Bornpoe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bums don’t average 15pts in nba

    • @hoodyplz
      @hoodyplz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Bornpoegood think he avgd 10 for his career then

    • @jaleelcmb
      @jaleelcmb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bornpoehe averaged 10 stop it 😂

    • @edgarhernandezcorona7182
      @edgarhernandezcorona7182 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He averaged 9
      Brandon was at 14
      The actual totals if I’m wrong are besides the point and semantics
      Brandon was still better. Rashad was an NBA NPC.

  • @alexhinkle1922
    @alexhinkle1922 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brandon Jennings was 135 giving grown men buckets in hs give em some respect 😂

  • @teenice1885
    @teenice1885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jokic, Magic,Jason Kidd, Lebron James, McGrady, Kobe, Jordan, Hakeem. Jimmy Butler. Good add!

  • @Tonio5100
    @Tonio5100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When Gil not in his troll bag he's a really great listen..... Gil said what I been saying for YEARS about this "skill" conversion

  • @334ben10
    @334ben10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Gil still dying on that it’s more than 3 levels of scoring😂😂 if a player is posting up that is a STYLE of scoring not a level, iso is a STYLE that is used to score at one of the said 3 levels, scoring off the dribble/pickNroll and so on are STYLES that you HAVE to score from one of 3 levels from, even if all the STYLES were levels of scoring it would be a lot more than 5 levels but they’re right you have to break it all the way down Luka can score in the paint but he isn’t a post scorer like Jok or Embiid.

    • @kennedy8926
      @kennedy8926 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Lmfao you the exact mf they calling out. 😂😂😂

    • @334ben10
      @334ben10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@kennedy8926 no YOU the mf they talking, people who never actually played. I actually played ball, actually got offers although to lower level colleges still got offers😂 played for multiple amateur men’s leagues, even old men YMCA ball🤷🏽‍♂️. NEVER had a soul talking about 5 levels of scoring. Imagine standing with a person who has LITERALLY has contradicted themselves multiple times in that exact seat

    • @adamfeliciano6321
      @adamfeliciano6321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s actually a level. Posting basically turns the chess board around and slows the pace. Literally would be a different level and please don’t ever coach.

    • @334ben10
      @334ben10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamfeliciano6321 🤦🏽‍♂️ where are you at when you post up? What does the pace have to do with the level of scoring? Most importantly did you not read where I LITERALLY talked about post ups and the paint?🤣🤣 you thought you got off with that reply but failed MISERABLY

    • @spvzonthetrack9957
      @spvzonthetrack9957 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Gil is confused about the meaning...There are 3 levels to score from...but a myriad of ways to get a bucket from each level

  • @route2388
    @route2388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    McCants talk like he was really like that. GMs take risk on arrogant players if the talent is there. His ass was garbage that’s why he was shipped overseas.

    • @M3FortiZay
      @M3FortiZay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He really does. He acts like he used to give everyone buckets. Everybody on the panel was better than him 😂.

    • @SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming
      @SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts lol

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      but he is not wrong on his take over jennings, skills is not limited to offense, because kyrie skills is limited as one dimensional. Garry payton does have more skill over kyrie to prove with winning output and dominating his position . In a mock draft 90% of coaches and Gms will pick gary payton over kyrie because of skills

    • @route2388
      @route2388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joeymanny Gary Payton better than Kyrie Irving Offensively??? Man please

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@route2388 did I say offensivley alone? Skills is overall from offense and defense, , Kyrie one on one offense is better than gary payton because of variety of moves but Payton have his own way to do the samee with less variety, now Facilitataing GP is way above than yrie, and taking care of the ball GP is way better, Kyrie is a turnover machine as a PG and with so called skills. GP is a franchise player in his prime, Kyrie will enver be a franchise player with all his skills he had he will not out him to the GP elite level

  • @TizOnly1
    @TizOnly1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank Gil for his part here.
    I been screaming this for years.
    "Skill" is just some shit people say to talk about players whose game they like to watch. Kyrie is the "most skilled" if all you're talking about is dribbling and a layup package (which is all MOST people mean when they say skill). But in reality, dribbling is skill, knowing how the ball is coming off the rim, and how to time your jump to get a rebound is skill. Knowing how to slide your feet to cut off a drive.. skill. Knowing when to stick your hand in to knock the ball away, and having the speed and coordination to do it consistently without fouling.. skill. Knowing how to funnel your man to help defense.. that's a fucking skill.
    Like damn I like watching Kyrie too... but we gotta smarten up at some point, and respect the parts of the game that aren't just scoring.

    • @TizOnly1
      @TizOnly1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also respect Gil for saying "don't dumb our game down, when you don't do it for anyone else" bc I been screaming THAT shit for years too.
      Basketball media is by far the dumbest sports coverage in the country. You watch an NBA game, the way they talk about it you'd think they just roll the ball our there and whatever happens, happens. Almost never see anyone describe a set that a team is running.. never hear anyone talk about the thought process that goes into decisions that are made on the court.
      Buuuuuuuuuut.... Gil talking about don't dumb the game down, but has a pod with Rashad Mccants on it.....

    • @abtocool6350
      @abtocool6350 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean kyrie is good at sliding his feet and knocking the ball away without fouling, he actually has great active hands, I’ve only missed 2 mavs games this season and trust me he does the things I just mentioned.

  • @Mr7kenyatta
    @Mr7kenyatta 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Scotty Pippen was one of the most skilled BB player’s ever to play the game.

  • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic
    @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I like when Brandon gets mad 😂😂😂 McCants frying him though.

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jennings is justr thinking more on being fancy not the context, Skills must be gauge if it results to winning, Kyrie is a terrible defender and facilitator as a PG, but great in iso, so it means Kyrie is not the most skillful. I would say Gary Payton is far more skilled than Kyrie, since GP led his team to multiple playoffs and also Finals apperance having skills from offense, defense, facilitating and also knowing the weakness of the other players. Kyrie felt short on that, Kyrie skills is just one dimensional

    • @Poppi_302
      @Poppi_302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@joeymannythe fact that you called Kyrie a terrible defender negates everything you just said.

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Poppi_302 he is, I watch him play and he is just doesnt have that dog style defending or putting the same effort like he did in offense. Thats why guys like bean bryant, MJ, and even isaiah thomas are in different stratosphere than kyrie when we evaluate the totality of the player skills. Kyrie cannot be a franchise a player, he is just a good support players to a much better player such as luka, Lebron, KD and Tatum

    • @SoICYDRE662
      @SoICYDRE662 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@joeymanny facts

    • @Poppi_302
      @Poppi_302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeymanny If Kyrie doesn’t get hurt in 2018 , none of you would be talking like this. He never got a fair shot. But anyway fuck a franchise player, he’s a championship who outplayed a “franchise player” twice in the finals. ITs franchise players blowing 3-1 leads. What does that really mean. He was the best player on his team multiple playoff games. If Giannis didn’t intentionally injure him in 2021 he’d be sitting on 2 rings rn. And he’s still the best ball handler and finisher this league has ever seen, one of the most clutch players of all time. That alone, makes him first ballot HOF.

  • @williepaul9785
    @williepaul9785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wat was Kobe weakness lol wat is Brandon talkin bout the man was shooting left handed wit one arm

    • @honestman3918
      @honestman3918 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      FG percentage

    • @dickhardpicard
      @dickhardpicard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shot selection 😂

    • @williepaul9785
      @williepaul9785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@honestman3918 yea u on drugs lol that’s like wn ppl say Allen iverson percentage he bein guarded by two damn ppl I bet u would pick Kobe over him 😂

    • @slimnationmusic8416
      @slimnationmusic8416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Jordan shot better than Kobe

    • @dickhardpicard
      @dickhardpicard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slimnationmusic8416 his shot selection was better than kobe.

  • @ChristianMedina-fe1kf
    @ChristianMedina-fe1kf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Defense is not a skill that’s dumb if ur not athletic no matter how hard u work on it ur gonna be a walking cone 💯,being a good defender is a talent it’s not skill,same thing with rebounding that’s a talent not skill, skill is something u work on to get better talent is something that’s given to u

    • @mrbattle2013
      @mrbattle2013 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Lies lol ! Defense is 100% a skill

    • @ChristianMedina-fe1kf
      @ChristianMedina-fe1kf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No it’s not gang there’s a reason y people are elite defenders in their athletic prime.defense is always a reflection of athleticism that’s not a skill that’s y they say if u have long arms,big hands and ur athletic u have potential to be a great defender that’s god given

    • @ThatBo03
      @ThatBo03 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I disagree because elite defense and rebounding require technique . Athleticism definitely helps, but if you take bad angles, don't use your body correctly, or don't study tendencies you'll never be elite.

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh. Tell me u never played organized ball b4. And I’m pretty sure u don’t know even know what u mean talent vs a skill. wtf. 😂🤣😂 u tweaking dawg.
      Rodman out rebounding dudes way bigger and stronger than him every night was not luck or given to him. 🤡

  • @bosshoss1209
    @bosshoss1209 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best take I've heard from Gil

  • @Just_do_the_thing
    @Just_do_the_thing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kobe is not the most skilled. Dude is beat by so many people today. Kobe was a volume shooter that did not pass. He might be the most overrated player in nba history. Dying is the best thing to happen to his legacy

    • @edellis2960
      @edellis2960 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The DIEING s*** was wrong to mention

  • @TheMyth619
    @TheMyth619 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nash would probably be one of top if you're using those basic stats. Nash was a 50 40 90 player. Crazy dimes and he was unpluckable.

    • @dickhardpicard
      @dickhardpicard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well he only did that once the rules in 2004-2005 season when they outlawed handchecking. He wasn't mvp level until then and he was in the nba since 1996

    • @TheMyth619
      @TheMyth619 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@g..._anthony27 No but who was throwing dimes like him.

    • @TheMyth619
      @TheMyth619 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dickhardpicard I agree with this but all of today's players have that advantage of not having to worry about handchecking.

    • @dickhardpicard
      @dickhardpicard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheMyth619 Jason kidd was throwing dimes like him. He just couldn't shoot as good as nash🤔

    • @TheMyth619
      @TheMyth619 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dickhardpicard Kidd was a beast but I guess nobody has everything. The point guards that excelled in the post were not great shooters. Sam Cassell, Gary Payton, ect. Nick Van Exel was pretty impressive though.

  • @LuisRivera-tt2ub
    @LuisRivera-tt2ub 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How can y’all say Kobe when he copied Jordan’s skills but not as good. Make it make sense

    • @LeonidasWalker
      @LeonidasWalker 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kobe took jordan skills to another level wth u talking about

    • @westside8514
      @westside8514 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kobe was a better shooter / 3 pt shooter than Jordan …
      Better footwork / but he for sure learned from Jordan !!!!

  • @professorzoom4467
    @professorzoom4467 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bean 🫘

  • @mitsu012
    @mitsu012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My top 3 skilled players at the 5 positions (not in any particular order)
    PG: Isiah “Zeke” Thomas, John Stockton, Stephen Curry
    SG: Kobe, MJ, Gervin
    SF: Bird, Dr. J, Baylor, (Pippen)
    PF: Duncan, McHale, Barkley
    C: Kareem, Wilt, Hakeem
    I know I’ll catch heat for not saying Magic, so I’ll say that Magic is the #1 PG of all time because he’s a 6’9” unicorn.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Top-2:
      Isaiah Thomas (the current Sun), Tim Hardaway sr.
      JR Smith, CJ McCollum
      Peja Stojakovic, Joe Johnson
      Terry Cummings, Chris Webber
      Bam Adebayo, Boogie.

  • @charlesjames9783
    @charlesjames9783 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m with Gil on this one. Kyrie is a great player. Is he better than KD? I don’t think so. Magic is the most skilled player in my lifetime. He played center in a Championship game and scored 42 points. To me that makes him the most versatile player in NBA History. Point Forward was coined for Magic.

  • @ryanbernier2930
    @ryanbernier2930 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Im old enough to have watched mj kobe bron n ky. Kyrie is the most gifted skillful player to have graced the court its like eminem's cadence on a beat you just cant fuck with it

    • @BryantBrady-xy4yv
      @BryantBrady-xy4yv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your delusional. Go to rehab

    • @BryantBrady-xy4yv
      @BryantBrady-xy4yv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So he's the most skilled with only one ring?

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BryantBrady-xy4yv Yeah. Let's not include recruiting star-teammates as a basketball skill.

  • @jordangrier4842
    @jordangrier4842 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why you can't say this Era is the most skilled Era of basketball 😂🤦🏾🤷🏾‍♂️ It's common sense

  • @elrey2034
    @elrey2034 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brandon Jennings the Goat🔥

  • @travishatchett9330
    @travishatchett9330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m searching the comments n still not found one ayo BJ wild “imma come n shift yo ass” 😭

  • @holemany5924
    @holemany5924 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "The rim is tripping" lol

  • @polofrost5078
    @polofrost5078 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kobe extremely skilled yes. Kyrie is above Kobe. His dribbling. Body control. Finishing at the rim. Shot creation. All that shit is unmatched

  • @Gameofinches-goi
    @Gameofinches-goi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah Kobe is the most skilled. He worked on his skills relentlessly. Id go 1) Kobe 2) Kawhi 3) MJ 4) Allen Iverson 5)Magix 6)Bird 7)Kyrie 8) Tracy McGrady 9) Olajuwon 10) Luka

  • @lucaso1579
    @lucaso1579 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we’re including passing, I’m gonna go for Kyrie. Skills should not only be boxed in to “scoring”

  • @juice.global
    @juice.global 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    B. Jennings is right, Kyrie is 4 sure the most offensively skilled player I've ever seen bro.. Easily really

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He is just visually looks good because nowadays we love highlights, but of we put in context if that skill result to winning, efficiency, making your temmates better with you, and facilitating . larry Bird is far dominant skillwise over kyrie, Larry can do ISO as much deadly if not dealier than kyrie , he doesnt look sexy but he will kill you every single possesion siince larry is epitome of skill because he is not athletic

    • @BigDic-qz8su
      @BigDic-qz8su 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You only seen this weak as era

    • @juice.global
      @juice.global 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@joeymanny I think considering it that way is lowering the bar, and makes it a different conversation.. When we talk offensive skills we’re legit talking about handle, finishing, & shooting ability.. All of the top of that list guys can do those things (No Larry lol), but Kyrie has mastered ball handling & finishing in an unforeseen unique way.. He can do everything they can, but they can’t do some of his sht.. & It is aesthetically pleasing… because the sht be like perfectly done lol.

    • @userzo30
      @userzo30 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s not more skill than curry and Jordan on offensive

    • @BigDic-qz8su
      @BigDic-qz8su 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@userzo30 Seth can only shoot three's he to small tho play in the paint.

  • @bespushkule3136
    @bespushkule3136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paul Pierce, Tracy McGrady, Dirk, Melo were all deadly offensive players. Pull ups, dribbling, 3s, post ups, foot works, play making, mid range..

  • @martinosborne6635
    @martinosborne6635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gil is actually right in this. Now even though a person may check all the boxes or more.. if a person is better or unstoppable at a skill, it may override a check. Kobe maybe more skilled than Jordan but Jordan is better. The extra moves Kobe may do isn't enough to Jordan's physical abilities like hanging and altering his shots in mid air.

  • @aaronhutchinson885
    @aaronhutchinson885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gil is correct. What are skills..just shooting and dribbling is what most folks say. What about passing, footwork, defensively, competativeness, etc. These skills, never are discussed.
    Hakeem, MJ, Duncan need to be in this conversation.
    Gil is correct again. There are 5 levels to scoring. Not just 3.

  • @shayneraymond4207
    @shayneraymond4207 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's Kobe for me!!... To me he's da most skill

  • @valmorrison7363
    @valmorrison7363 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect explanation and explaining of skill players by gil CANT SAY IT NO BETTER 💪🏾💯

  • @saulomartiteodoro
    @saulomartiteodoro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's been a while since I agreed with Gil (he's been on some horrible takes lately)..
    Even if you talk about "offensive skills":
    - Ability to create a shot & counter -> I'd say maybe Kyrie, but I'd take Steph over him
    - Ability to get a bucket -> KD
    - Dribbling & getting to the rim -> Wade/ MJ / Kobe / Kyrie / Bron
    There's so many levels to this..
    If you talk overall skills: ability to shoot from at least 5 levels, ball-handling, counters, passing, reading defensives, basketball IQ, defending... it's hard to argue over KD, Kobe as most skilled players ever

  • @jasonrefsnider4057
    @jasonrefsnider4057 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great discussion. Gil made some great points about skill set and how it’s defined these days.