I died when Rashad called out how Gil be forcing brandon to dap him up to make it seem like they're on the same side. I noticed Gil does that alot when no one is agreeing with him 😂😂
Gil is in denial . The U.S. team is boring ! Don’t forget Jamal Murray is Canadian and Shai, that’s considered international. jokic , Luka, Gianni’s, Sabonis, Shai, Murray!! that’s not a bad start.
Thats what im saying idk if they was talking abt euros or international players in general bc international players from the world as a whole does make up alot of the nba (even if they came to America to play in highschool or sum they where not american)
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mliterally they haven’t named shai a nigga who’s in the mvp race but bc he’s not speaking in the thickest accent then they probably don’t realize
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mlol they keep saying euro players then trying to add shai & murray when Canada is definitely apart of The North American continent. 2nd US basketball is the best when you gotta put all the other countries in the world together just to play one country 🤣
No it didn't. Gil has been saying once you get past the starting 5, the international team lacks equal talent. You realized that for the USA team that guys like Kyrie, Dame, Kawhi, and PG would be coming off the bench.
@karabomafa5609 no but you do have to play them. Foul trouble, bad matchups, someone is having an off night and more. The international starting 5 is great but so is a lineup with Steph, LeBron, KD and Tatum.
@@justified004 there is only one ball.. give me Luka,Markannen, Giannis,Sabonis and a bunch of shooters(Hield,Bogdanovic etc.)... Then 2nd unit will be Jokic, Murray,SGA,Wemby,Pascal... US ain't got a reply for that
Gil is tripping, constantly trying to change the parameters to change the argument. He knows damn well the international players can hold their own and be more then competitive.
On god, he been starting to do this a month and a half ago bruh. Changing the goal post. When rashad would say that at the beginning of this year I thought he was tripping but he really wasnt🤦♂️. Last year he was but this year not really
Gil gave him the All Stars parameters, and Rashad couldn’t understand at all. Everyone mad at Gil for using the AS parameters? That’s nuts. That’s like being confused why you couldn’t have an NFL pro bowl with just WRs and no TEs or RBs on the bench.
Gil couldn't answer the question. Who's putting up numbers like Embiid before injury, Luka, Giannis, Joker, Shai, Sabonis? The best players in the NBA right now are international and they've been getting all the MVP votes for a few years now
Convoluted issue, because Joel Embiid is Congolese, but went to HS at Montverde Academy in FL and college at Kansas U. He was raw ASF like Olajuwon when he arrived to the States. SGA went to Christian Academy in Chattanooga TN his junior & senior years of HS, because he felt he needed to improve and needed better competition in his own words. Then he went to Kentucky U. So you look at two guys in the Top 4 of MVP voting, their foreign born but large parts of their game were honed in American institutions, unlike Giannis, Luka, Jokic or Wemby. Even Domantas Sabonis was born and lived in Portland OR until he was 8, because his dad Arvydas played with the Blazers. Then he went to play in Spain and that’s pretty much where he played from 9 to adult. He’s Eastern European in ancestry like Luka or Jokic, but he didn’t grow up there. Anthony Edwards is getting 27/5/5 his 4th year and Mike Conley runs the Timbs offense and KAT is putting up big numbers too. Gobert is in the paint getting rebounds and blocks. You put him on a small ball team like Dallas and he dominates the ball all game like Luka or Harden in Houston, his stats jump. Not saying he’s better, but he doesn’t have an usage rate close to Luka’s. Ant’s usage rate is probably closer to Kyrie’s. Paolo Banchero is 23/7/5 as 2nd year player. I think Chet will be an All Star by his 3rd season, if he can stay healthy and keep getting stronger. Only people stopping Zion & Ja are Zion & Ja. The off court shyt, which is leading to lack of playtime, inferior conditioning and injuries. Ja isn’t overweight, but I think his body was used to that NBA regular season grind, due to the suspension and he got hurt, shortly after coming back. So there are great American players in the pipeline. Giannis and Jokic are both 29, so I give them 5-6 more years before they decline due to age and nagging injuries. Luka and Wemby are generational talents both 25 and under, so they’ll be dominating for another decade, unless there’s a bad injury that occurs.
@@yahiaali4059 Sabonis was an All star i legit dont care that he did not make it is 6th in MVP ladder WTF happened this year that he did not make it WTF HAPPENED
@@Honcho35 i mean this argument was about all star game and only 4 non us players made the all star game this year so you gonna take off 8 us players to put 8guys who are not even on the snub list
I don’t know why he still try’s when it comes to this argument. If you have to convince someone about common sense over and over then whats the point😂😂
@@Honcho35 are you just rashad's burner account, neither of them won the argument, at least Gil's came back to facts. It was mostly a shouting match about nothing
Nah like Gilbert said they (euro's) only have 3 real Allstars Luka, Jokic, Gannis one future Allstars wemby thats european. 2 dont even want to participate or play defense (luka, Jokic) for agument sake throw Canada in still not a full squad 😂😂😂
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mand Embiid is only “American” because he wants to chase glory. Can’t win in the NBA so might as well try to win through Team USA. SGA has never been American lol.
McCants starting to cook Gil on a regular basis pretty soon Gill is going to block him from coming on to his show. McCants best look into starting your own podcast buddy.
Because the argument is international vs USA allstar game so it has to be all stars so it gotta be in guard forwards format! Team ball it’s a allstar game
They could do a usa vs the world basketball game and it'd be a blowout if everyone's healthy. Yall casuals let the media trick yall into thinking the euros have taken over when I'm reality they're really making a splash
Exactly that line up nice on offense wat about defense??lol do he know how ball dominant SGA &Luka are Giannis is to but not like them Joker would be the only person use to passing the ball and scoring off the ball it’s part of his game fr
@bleek6521 joker held his own on defense just fine against Anthony street clothes Davis in the finals. What are you all even talking about. Doncic has been much improved on defense this season and would not have to do as much on offense. Plus Giannis would clean up on defense. You think Steph curry plays defense? He’s going to guard SGA?
Gil knows what he’s doing all the time, always trying to deflect & take the argument in a different direction. We all know the overseas players are bussing the Americans ass. Last five MVPs shows that (Embid is from Cameroon)
@@Combusta seems like you're the casuals ones minimizing the MVPs and they chips they got , if the last five MVPs were American I know damn well you'll be glazing that stat.
Nah it’s a bad team. No speed or athleticism! Speed the game up and this international team gets cooked. Second, the style of play doesn’t work between Luka and joker and they’re the two best in that team. But they both need the ball to be useful. Joker and Luka slow the game down too much . This team gets cooked by gils USA team
@@oni_vergil7342aight swap porzingis with franz wagner and move markanenn to the starting lineup and bench wemby since he doesn't need tk be there with giannis. Markanenn is athletic af. Honestly you don't need wemby with the other great bigs sp get rid of him or siakam to put in OG Anunoby who is also athletic af, one of of the best wing defenders in the league (if not tbe best) and a good off ball shooter. There's a faster team for you
Gil was STUNNING when he said...out of 450 players, you name 5? I'm telling you folks...GIL'S brain is SPECIAL. He can THINK outside the BOX like top notch thinkers.
Hownis he wrong? Only 3 real euro stars Gannis, Luka, Jokic... Luka and jokic dont play hard in the Allstar game Shai and Murry are canadian not european.last i checked Canada is on the north American continent. Sabonis is good but he was born in america played high-school ball and college ball in america lmao
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mlebron don play team ball, jayson Tatum don’t play team ball the way jb, Al horford, and porzingis have the most scoring opportunities they ever had in their career.. Jamal Murray don’t play team ball ? So what have he been doing with the Denver nuggets??
@blaktye33 the media likes international players for all the last few years? Tell me an American player that deserved to win it over Embiid, Giannis and Jokic last few years
you can’t really use MVP’s like you used too. i agree with the last few MVP awards so im not knocking them. but however. they can literally vote based on who they like and don’t like. a few of the voters have vocally said they won’t vote for certain people based on off the court stuff that has nothing to do with them playing basketball
@dariusk919 agree some voters have been on some BS but it's not like we have seen recently a deserving American MVP but ended up on the hands of a non American. Most recent controversial one was when Jokic got it but some people were saying Embiid deserved it which at that time Embiid wasn't a US citizen. This year maybe we could get an American MVP between Tatum and Edwards but if it goes to the kid in OKC well he is not American the trend continues
Embiid isn't European, but he's not American, so he would be part of the World Team. SGA could go either way depending on if it's USA vs the World or North America vs the World.
I see what Rashad is saying about being a 3....he referring to when you look at the number of positions: 1 Guard 2 Shooting Guard 3 Small Forward 4 Power Forward 5 Center.......
Gil has hated Euros or any International players for the longest😂But Gil hates how Kobe Bryant carried the USA team in 2008 to win gold vs Spain saving USA "Redeem Team's" basketball reputation... Make up your mind are you for USA or against😭
@@gregordrizzlewing7339well the point of the argument was are foreign players taking over the league since only 4 or 5 are in the tops it’s not true lol
@@dahc0023 once again in quality they are. Half of the top 10 best players right now are not American. The last mvp that was American was going on 6 years. The last 3 seasons 2 of the winners have been led by a non American and this year probably the same. For every great non American there is 10 great Americans but I guarantee you that the great non American is top in his position compared to the American.
i think when ppl say the euro players taking over is the best player in the league are not from here, it use to be bron curry kd kobe melo etc. now it’s gianni’s embiid luka jokic shai so just the top guys that are winning chips and mvps have changed
Luka, Shai, Giannis, Embiid and Joker v Steph, LBJ, Tatum, KD and AD. That matchup Id take World. If it was 12 deep tho, USA has a better chance, but World would still have Sabonis, Wemby, Gobert, Markenen, Murray EDIT: I understand some don’t consider Embiid international because he’s choosing to play for Team USA, but to me it speaks more simply to his mindset and his weak help country wise. Hakeem played for Team USA, yet most say he’s the greatest international player ever.
Most of them international guys really aren’t international they went to school in the USA and lived here for a period of time. What people consider international is people who played professionally overseas. That’s why people don’t look at Canadians as international players. Joel was born overseas moved to Florida then went to Kansas that’s why he wanted to play for the USA. Wiggins went to prep school in America then went to college in America. And he is from Toronto America most likely wasn’t foreign to him. When you break down some of these players they lived in America for a period of time. They were born somewhere else.
@@CR250rSMITHmbiid is us bro. You rep what team you would play for internationally. If we go by anything other than that then mad african players won't be in european teams.
🤦Bro, he's picking players from 194 different countries(World)to beat 1( USA). Shai and Murray r from North America, played high school, and college❤ basketball in the States. Then Sabonis is not even International. He's American born and raised in Oregon and played college at Gonzaga😂😂😂
@@cwhitt8110 "🤦Bro, he's picking players from 194 different countries(World)to beat 1( USA)." No, he isn't. He's picking from international players who play in the NBA. Germany won the FIBA world cup last year. USA came 4th. Spain won the world cup before that, and USA came 7th.
@penkima4923 🤦 Germany sent their best, Spain sent their best. Bro, Austin Reaves, Bobby Portis, Walker Kessler, Josh Hart, Cameron Johnson, and Mikal Bridges played on that FIBA team. 7 Non All-Stars, some dez mf don't start on f**king NBA teams😂😂😂
The problem with gils argument is euro players are a minority in the NBA so of course there's a bigger chance of USA stars can rise up. But the fact that there is a number of all star international players despite them being the minority says alot
That’s basically his point from the beginning. Naming how many players that are in the league as a whole. But he couldn’t comprehend so he had to keep talking.
They’ve won 2 chips in the last 20 years. International players are better now, but come on, the best players in the history of the game are American. It’s not close.
Starters: Shai Luka Giannis Jokic Embiid Bench: Jamal Siakem Lauri Sabonis Porzingis Wemby Starters: Steph Booker KD Bron Bam Bench: Kyrie Ant Tatum Kawhi Chet or KAT
I think they said Embiid is gonna be representing America. "NBA star Joel Embiid has chosen to represent the United States over France in the 2024 Paris Olympics."
Since when do we discuss 450 basketball players? We always discuss the top 5-10 AT BEST. Now that the top 5-10 is being shaken up by international players we want to move the goal post? Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Wemby, Shai, Embiid... All international players, at least 4 of them are in the top 5. I'm not going to say Wemby or Shai is over KD.
The fall off occurs once you get past those top 4 Euros. Rashad was naming guys like Giddy and Wagner as reserves. Think about the USA reserves, and it's not competition. So unless they are playing all 48 mins, you need a complete roster.
@@justified004 If we were to measure where the bulk of revenue comes from in terms of the NBA, it would be from the top players which is why they pour so much money behind marketing the very best, the tickets, merch, tv deals, fans buy into a very small percentage of players so let's not act like we're talking about 450 players. It's like a record label, when they want to sell an artist on joining their label, they don't mention the 110th artist, they name the top 3-5 names because those are the names that makes the label just like it's the top players that makes the NBA, if they are bad then the league suffers, if the rest are bad nobody cares, just look at the 90s and every era before. We don't talk about reserves. That's just moving the goalpost and you know it.
@hakshustletv dude, what are you rambling about. By your own logic, that means that the American team is better because no players are marketed and pushed more than Steph and LeBron. The top 3 selling jerseys are Americans and 7 of the top 10 are too. This argument is about which team would win in an All-Star game setting, USA or International. Like I said, the international team has a comparable if not slightly better starting 5 but no professional game is played with ONLY 5 guys. You have to have reserves and the international team falls off a cliff once you go to the bench. Whereas the USA team stay at an elevated level with its reserves. I don't deny that the Euros have arguably 4 of the top 5 but after that USA has arguably 20 of the top 25. The bottom line is that the Euros are top heavy.
@@justified004 You guys completed everything, the simple statement was International players are taking over the NBA. The fact of the matter is, right now the best players in the league are international players. When we discuss the best, we're talking about guys in the MVP race and/or the top 5 at best the top 10. The highest ranking players right now are International players, widely considered the best players are Jokic, Giannis, Embiid and Luka. It's really that simple. There was nothing more to it. If you want to say the statement is exaggerated fine, but we know what was meant by it and now people want to be technical and talk about 12 players, 450 players etc... just because they want to move away from what the actual statement meant.
@hakshustletv this was never about the best player or MVP. You made it about that. The discussion was about if they would change the All-Star game to USA vs. International. No one is debating that 4 of the top 5 are Euros, as that is already proven true. 5 of the last MVPs were won by Giannis, Jokic, and Embid, but none of that matters when making a complete roster for a game. Why do you think Rashad listed 10 guys? I'll say it again, once you get to the reserves, the team looks completely different. Also, to act like that international 5 is way better than what the USA would have is crazy. Steph, Tatum, LeBron, KD and AD are a great squad. Add Kyrie, Edwards, Kawhi, Dame, and PG then their 10 is far better than what Rashad named. USA has far more ball handlers, great shooting, better defense, and way more experience. I agree that the best player is European but it's not a takeover when 8 of the last 10 chips where won by an American star and 20 of the top 25 are still American. If Giannis or Jokic when 1 or 2 more chips in the next 2 or 3 years, then I'd agree.
Rashad:"Can i change my all star list"
Gil: "sure... Change your list"
Rashad: "ill put the same list"😂
😂
never take advise from a man that brings a gun to his job! LOL
@@Kixgod2 hahaha right
@@Kixgod2I would never take advice from a brokie like you tho
Lmaooo it’s literally no other way he could change his list 😂😂
Hilarious
I died when Rashad called out how Gil be forcing brandon to dap him up to make it seem like they're on the same side. I noticed Gil does that alot when no one is agreeing with him 😂😂
I hate when people do that to me, like do I still Dap him if I disagree 😂
@@booboo4ever24nope, gotta stand on business
@@booboo4ever24hell nah lol
@@HomerunsamSOSA 😂 I Be like wtf u bring me into your lie or something I know nothing about
he was spot on... we all saw the same thing
The Gil Rashad battles make the show
They really do.
Yes!
Rashad makes the show honestly
😂
It makes the show hard to watch! Rashad drags the show with that slow shit. But ppl like controversy, so I get why he keeps dude on the show.
Gil is tripping. The International team is the clear favorites.
Omm that international team deep asf an versatile asf
@@tipwewurkk6639how tf are they deep 🤣🤣🤣
Please..You on drugs
Starting 5 international team nasty but once they sub out it's over
Gil is in denial . The U.S. team is boring ! Don’t forget Jamal Murray is Canadian and Shai, that’s considered international. jokic , Luka, Gianni’s, Sabonis, Shai, Murray!! that’s not a bad start.
There's 125 international players in the league right now. That's damn near 1/3
Gil saw that line up and was like “oh shit” I fucked up 😂
Why? That lineup was ass lmao.
@@Andre-q5e4mSo which starting five is fw those international players?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m well basketball is played with more than 5 players so let’s start there lol
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Steph, Booker, Bron, KD, Embiid. Easy work.
Yep 😅. He tried to take the team apart with a bunch of position nonsense.
Embiid becomes American as apple pie when Gil has to defend US basketball.
Thats what im saying idk if they was talking abt euros or international players in general bc international players from the world as a whole does make up alot of the nba (even if they came to America to play in highschool or sum they where not american)
You can tell Gil doesn’t know anything about international players because if he did he would’ve known that Shai and Jamal were born in Canada
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mliterally they haven’t named shai a nigga who’s in the mvp race but bc he’s not speaking in the thickest accent then they probably don’t realize
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mlol they keep saying euro players then trying to add shai & murray when Canada is definitely apart of The North American continent. 2nd US basketball is the best when you gotta put all the other countries in the world together just to play one country 🤣
@@shawnsmith8335What does Canada being part of North America have to with it? It's a different country.
He proved his point, and Gil said I’m not playing fantasy. I HOOOOOOLLERED LMAO
That line up killed every argument Gil had 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No it didn't. Gil has been saying once you get past the starting 5, the international team lacks equal talent. You realized that for the USA team that guys like Kyrie, Dame, Kawhi, and PG would be coming off the bench.
It’s a lineup of all bigs and 2 guards. Who defending anything on the perimeter
@@justified004don't have to play them all at the same time..
@karabomafa5609 no but you do have to play them. Foul trouble, bad matchups, someone is having an off night and more. The international starting 5 is great but so is a lineup with Steph, LeBron, KD and Tatum.
@@justified004 there is only one ball.. give me Luka,Markannen, Giannis,Sabonis and a bunch of shooters(Hield,Bogdanovic etc.)... Then 2nd unit will be Jokic, Murray,SGA,Wemby,Pascal... US ain't got a reply for that
That starting five is insane
Lowkey one of the funniest clips from them and they got many 😂😂
Gil and mccants going at the international list had me rollin
Embiid should play for the world, he has 2 world passports and recently gotten the USA one
Played high school ball here in the states though. He’s an American.
@Casua1Rain was he not born in Africa?
Literally born & raised in Cameroon
@@oodlesnnoodles8670 if you come here at all you are one of us apparently
@@Al-Sahem-Al-GhulOkay, Jamal Murray and Shai played basketball at Kentucky does that make them Americans?
Gil: BECAUSE HES NOT A TEW!!😂😂
😂😂
Spicy af too 😂
Since when is Pascal a 2💀💀
😭😭😭😭😭
Gil is insane 😂😂😂😂😂
That shit had me dying
One my favorite clips. Y’all got me cracking up!
Man Rashads starting 5 is incredible!!
Gil is tripping, constantly trying to change the parameters to change the argument. He knows damn well the international players can hold their own and be more then competitive.
All you gotta do is just listen to the Kobe interview about the European players where he explains how they are taught the fundamentals
On god, he been starting to do this a month and a half ago bruh. Changing the goal post. When rashad would say that at the beginning of this year I thought he was tripping but he really wasnt🤦♂️. Last year he was but this year not really
@@Zeke47 😭😭 You're right. Rashad been making Gil have mental spasms on the regular. I find myself agreeing with Rashad and started to get worried!
Nobody cares that the whole world can piece together a team to compete with the USA.
ITS 2024 The WORLD should be able to compete.
Gil gave him the All Stars parameters, and Rashad couldn’t understand at all. Everyone mad at Gil for using the AS parameters? That’s nuts. That’s like being confused why you couldn’t have an NFL pro bowl with just WRs and no TEs or RBs on the bench.
Gil always putting these technicalities or narratives on their discussions 😂
It's his show
@@Benny-l6w oh really I never realised? I had no idea what “Gil’s arena” meant, smh
Gil couldn't answer the question. Who's putting up numbers like Embiid before injury, Luka, Giannis, Joker, Shai, Sabonis? The best players in the NBA right now are international and they've been getting all the MVP votes for a few years now
Old ass LeBron
He answered he said no one lol he said it bro watch it again
Sabonis u serious 😂😂😂😂 don't let me get draymond on that fool
u snuck sabonis in there😂
@@Scrappa05Draymond can’t do sh** with Sabonis but foul/cheap shot him
Convoluted issue, because Joel Embiid is Congolese, but went to HS at Montverde Academy in FL and college at Kansas U. He was raw ASF like Olajuwon when he arrived to the States. SGA went to Christian Academy in Chattanooga TN his junior & senior years of HS, because he felt he needed to improve and needed better competition in his own words. Then he went to Kentucky U. So you look at two guys in the Top 4 of MVP voting, their foreign born but large parts of their game were honed in American institutions, unlike Giannis, Luka, Jokic or Wemby.
Even Domantas Sabonis was born and lived in Portland OR until he was 8, because his dad Arvydas played with the Blazers. Then he went to play in Spain and that’s pretty much where he played from 9 to adult. He’s Eastern European in ancestry like Luka or Jokic, but he didn’t grow up there.
Anthony Edwards is getting 27/5/5 his 4th year and Mike Conley runs the Timbs offense and KAT is putting up big numbers too. Gobert is in the paint getting rebounds and blocks. You put him on a small ball team like Dallas and he dominates the ball all game like Luka or Harden in Houston, his stats jump. Not saying he’s better, but he doesn’t have an usage rate close to Luka’s. Ant’s usage rate is probably closer to Kyrie’s.
Paolo Banchero is 23/7/5 as 2nd year player. I think Chet will be an All Star by his 3rd season, if he can stay healthy and keep getting stronger. Only people stopping Zion & Ja are Zion & Ja. The off court shyt, which is leading to lack of playtime, inferior conditioning and injuries. Ja isn’t overweight, but I think his body was used to that NBA regular season grind, due to the suspension and he got hurt, shortly after coming back.
So there are great American players in the pipeline. Giannis and Jokic are both 29, so I give them 5-6 more years before they decline due to age and nagging injuries. Luka and Wemby are generational talents both 25 and under, so they’ll be dominating for another decade, unless there’s a bad injury that occurs.
6:43 "Why was he crossed up his line up to draw a new one after he saw mine"😂😂
no Franz, Gobert or Sengun + many more
they do this on purpose..the hate on rudy is violent..
Sabonis is better than gobert he’s a unit
they r all frontcout plus they got mentioned later in the vid.
@@yahiaali4059 Sabonis was an All star i legit dont care that he did not make it is 6th in MVP ladder WTF happened this year that he did not make it WTF HAPPENED
Kuminga!!!!!!
Rashad makes this podcast entertaining. At first it was annoying but now I be waiting for him to talk about his takes 😂
Yeah the failure of the show def makes it entertaining when he is hating
He usually has the best takes
Because he actually challenges the host
@@SKTV1991you a cornball!😂
I like some of Rashad's takes especially because he thinks outside the "traditional" box....
Gil forgot Kenyon's proverb, "You can't call someone who's slow that they're slow to their face" pretty sure Gil even said that once or twice too
Rashad was right lol you either glazin Gil or your just as slow as the people ur referring to
He said that shit about Isaiah Stewart
@@Honcho35 i mean this argument was about all star game and only 4 non us players made the all star game this year so you gonna take off 8 us players to put 8guys who are not even on the snub list
I don’t know why he still try’s when it comes to this argument. If you have to convince someone about common sense over and over then whats the point😂😂
@@Honcho35 are you just rashad's burner account, neither of them won the argument, at least Gil's came back to facts. It was mostly a shouting match about nothing
The way Gil turned that paper at 15:44 had me in tears 😂
“ what’s your other guard dog”😂😂
I actually didnt think it would happen, but I finally agree with Rashad on something
Nah like Gilbert said they (euro's) only have 3 real Allstars Luka, Jokic, Gannis one future Allstars wemby thats european. 2 dont even want to participate or play defense (luka, Jokic) for agument sake throw Canada in still not a full squad 😂😂😂
@@Michael-H23But yet they wanna claim Shai and Embiid
@@Michael-H23SGA is international he isn’t American buddy
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mand Embiid is only “American” because he wants to chase glory. Can’t win in the NBA so might as well try to win through Team USA. SGA has never been American lol.
never take advise from a man that brings a gun to his job! LOL
Gilbert's mad at the truth 😂😂😂😂
What truth
What truth
gil does not like foreign players. anybody who watches the podcast knows this
Gil likes ball dominant guards.
So guys like Sabonis and Gobert stand little chance...
Yeah I see that now smh
@j.s.2767 I wonder why he is so xenophobic.
it's called xenophobia.
@@johnnguyen6469He’s mad because these European players have exposed the NBA lack of defense plus they’re always beating the Lakers 😂😂😂
The debate was honestly done in the first 3 minutes
Gilbert looks up some players and goes, “I’m a researcher”. 😂
McCants starting to cook Gil on a regular basis pretty soon Gill is going to block him from coming on to his show. McCants best look into starting your own podcast buddy.
Of Course 😂😂😂
Facts the Skip Bayless effect
No he is not 😂
Ngl yall dickeating mccants is crazy
This McCants burner account.
Gil prefers great 1v1 players. He completely ignores that this is a team sport. I didn’t see a problem with Rashad’s list
Embidd needs to be on World also
@@CR250rSMITHExactly they just want to use him when it benefits them
Because the argument is international vs USA allstar game so it has to be all stars so it gotta be in guard forwards format! Team ball it’s a allstar game
They could do a usa vs the world basketball game and it'd be a blowout if everyone's healthy. Yall casuals let the media trick yall into thinking the euros have taken over when I'm reality they're really making a splash
@@boppanopolis317So Shai, Luka, Wiggins/Siakam, Giannis and Jokic
He said Luka and Joker would play defense..... In the damn all star game 😂😂😂
They dont play defense in the regular season 😂😂😂
Exactly that line up nice on offense wat about defense??lol do he know how ball dominant SGA &Luka are Giannis is to but not like them Joker would be the only person use to passing the ball and scoring off the ball it’s part of his game fr
@bleek6521 joker held his own on defense just fine against Anthony street clothes Davis in the finals. What are you all even talking about. Doncic has been much improved on defense this season and would not have to do as much on offense. Plus Giannis would clean up on defense. You think Steph curry plays defense? He’s going to guard SGA?
@@bleek6521sga and giannis can both play off-ball but for there respective teams, the teams play better when there ball dominant.
Nicca it wouldn’t be a all star game dumb ass
Gil is right and it's NOT EVEN DEBATABLE 😂😂😂
Gil: Fred Vanfleet.
Also Gil: I’m a researcher
Definitely got to "No Diddy" the title of this video
That's a reach
@tonycolemanjr.5730 "tHaTs A rEaCh"
@@YP__ManI mean it is
never take advise from a man that brings a gun to his job! LOL
@@Kixgod2 Never take advise from a random dude on TH-cam
"Wasn't good enough to be in All-Star" - dude, all star is popularity contest, not based on merit. Domantas Sabonis should have been in there.
Sabonis born in Portland
Gil’s logic: can’t just put a PF at the point
Lebron would like to have a word
Gil loooooves to move the line in the slickest way yooo😂😂😂😂
I actually agree with Gil
Explode is crazy
Not that serious…gotta be a kid
No Diddy
@@TJAvant95 yet u responded
@@BrasiDJoker yes, I did. Clown
So much gayness running in yo mind man
Gil knows what he’s doing all the time, always trying to deflect & take the argument in a different direction. We all know the overseas players are bussing the Americans ass. Last five MVPs shows that (Embid is from Cameroon)
At least the top world players
Oh right, they’ve won so many chips. People on TH-cam are casuals.
@@ssjsal2159The only ones that matter lol
@@Combusta seems like you're the casuals ones minimizing the MVPs and they chips they got , if the last five MVPs were American I know damn well you'll be glazing that stat.
Say what you want but Rashad roster was a good one
CARVED IN STONE!!
Gil erasing pencil writing
😂😂
rashad burner account
Yep real Good. That's why Gil tried switch it up on him with all that position nonsense 😅
Nah it’s a bad team. No speed or athleticism! Speed the game up and this international team gets cooked. Second, the style of play doesn’t work between Luka and joker and they’re the two best in that team. But they both need the ball to be useful. Joker and Luka slow the game down too much . This team gets cooked by gils USA team
@@oni_vergil7342aight swap porzingis with franz wagner and move markanenn to the starting lineup and bench wemby since he doesn't need tk be there with giannis. Markanenn is athletic af. Honestly you don't need wemby with the other great bigs sp get rid of him or siakam to put in OG Anunoby who is also athletic af, one of of the best wing defenders in the league (if not tbe best) and a good off ball shooter. There's a faster team for you
Gil be moving the hell out of the goalpost. Damn 😂😂😂
Gil was STUNNING when he said...out of 450 players, you name 5? I'm telling you folks...GIL'S brain is SPECIAL. He can THINK outside the BOX like top notch thinkers.
McCants went to COLLEGE? Oh my... Why does it take him so long to learn facts?
Gil always finding fucking loopholes when he’s wrong 🙈
Wrong ? He’s actually right, if you’re going to play the starting 5 50 mins ok but the USA whole team literally are ALL STARS
@@CargoCondorovertheroadAnd do you know what they don’t do? Play team basketball
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mhe’s still right
Hownis he wrong? Only 3 real euro stars Gannis, Luka, Jokic... Luka and jokic dont play hard in the Allstar game Shai and Murry are canadian not european.last i checked Canada is on the north American continent. Sabonis is good but he was born in america played high-school ball and college ball in america lmao
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mlebron don play team ball, jayson Tatum don’t play team ball the way jb, Al horford, and porzingis have the most scoring opportunities they ever had in their career.. Jamal Murray don’t play team ball ? So what have he been doing with the Denver nuggets??
Ain't like the last 5 mvps international? Embiid just became a US citizen but he is more international
Mvp been a popularity award stop it..mvp is whoever media likes
@blaktye33 the media likes international players for all the last few years? Tell me an American player that deserved to win it over Embiid, Giannis and Jokic last few years
you can’t really use MVP’s like you used too. i agree with the last few MVP awards so im not knocking them. but however. they can literally vote based on who they like and don’t like. a few of the voters have vocally said they won’t vote for certain people based on off the court stuff that has nothing to do with them playing basketball
@dariusk919 agree some voters have been on some BS but it's not like we have seen recently a deserving American MVP but ended up on the hands of a non American. Most recent controversial one was when Jokic got it but some people were saying Embiid deserved it which at that time Embiid wasn't a US citizen. This year maybe we could get an American MVP between Tatum and Edwards but if it goes to the kid in OKC well he is not American the trend continues
That is because the world is top heavy.
mccants world team looking crazy and imo woulld win, they all in they prime, top 5 players in the league are international players
And 2 of those top 5 don’t even care about playing an all star game
@@fwiedwice824 true true
Embiid jokic an luka who’s the other two ? Shai ?
Bro honestly I haven't watched an all-star game in a decade so a change is needed. I bet the game would be more excited to see world vs usa.
Gilbert Arenas be killing with his takes on here bro !! Basketball Genius
Embiid isn't European, but he's not American, so he would be part of the World Team. SGA could go either way depending on if it's USA vs the World or North America vs the World.
Embiid will play for Team USA for the Olympics so he's on USA
If its USA vs WORLD
Then Canadians count for the world team
Embid is a US citizen
Canadian is international
@@CargoCondorovertheroadHe’s not from America
im surprised he left Embid offf the team
Embiid is in Limbo rn, He could play for Team US or Team World
embiid injured, i think that's why
@@ViqtorNo he can’t he can only play for the world because he was born in Cameroon
Embiid has no identity on and off court
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mhe has US citizenship
Mccants the best thing about this show and idgaf what noone say
I'M WITH HIM
i used to really dislike him but he QUICKLY became my favorite. just the ultimate contrarian
He literally makes the show 😂
Cause he the comic relief
"we just got word that LeBron is Dominican" 15:01 😂😂😂😂😂
RJ Barrett is killing in Tor. He should be on the list after your top 10 international players.
Their argument is so hilarious
This is best sports show ever 😂😂😂 I like it fellas keep it up
That McCants is an animal
Kyrie and Embid are international
I see what Rashad is saying about being a 3....he referring to when you look at the number of positions:
1 Guard
2 Shooting Guard
3 Small Forward
4 Power Forward
5 Center.......
🤦🏿♂️ the fact that yall don't know the Allstars game format 😂😂😂😂😂
@@payles_saylesstvboth teams teams had that exact format. 2 guards and 3 forwards.
I need to know what league Gilbert is watching lmao
Rashad didn’t even have Gobert or embiid. Shit sengun too.
vazenkov
Embid would be with the Americans now because he got his US passport and is gona play for team USA. Inform urself
@@losangelesmade4153 lol “inform yourself”
Gil be antagonizing Mccants 😂😂😂 shit is so funny 😂😂😂😂😂
Gil got me when he said "I know you don't know much"😭😊 peace
Gil has hated Euros or any International players for the longest😂But Gil hates how Kobe Bryant carried the USA team in 2008 to win gold vs Spain saving USA "Redeem Team's" basketball reputation... Make up your mind are you for USA or against😭
World All Day
Gil be so mad when wrong 😂
Facts dude wrong in the face talking bout quantity over quality get out of here man 😂😂😂
@@gregordrizzlewing7339well the point of the argument was are foreign players taking over the league since only 4 or 5 are in the tops it’s not true lol
@@dahc0023 exactly.
@@dahc0023 once again in quality they are. Half of the top 10 best players right now are not American. The last mvp that was American was going on 6 years. The last 3 seasons 2 of the winners have been led by a non American and this year probably the same. For every great non American there is 10 great Americans but I guarantee you that the great non American is top in his position compared to the American.
@@dahc0023statistically no but quality they are.
i think when ppl say the euro players taking over is the best player in the league are not from here, it use to be bron curry kd kobe melo etc. now it’s gianni’s embiid luka jokic shai so just the top guys that are winning chips and mvps have changed
Gil’s argument was “YOU NEED 3 GUAARDDSDSSSSSSS” 🤣🤣
Fred Vanvleet is from Rockford, Illinois isn’t he? 😂
Proof Gil doesn’t research.
No he is Canadian now since he been in Toronto
Gil gonna make it make sense boy I tell you lmmfaooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂💯
Well Gil, the only way to prove your logic is to push for the challenge and let see who wins.
PG - 6’9 LeBron, SG - 6’8 Kawhi/Paul George, SF - 6’10 Tatum, PF - 7’0 Kevin Durant, C - 7’0 AD/Embiid
11:14 "Maybe if you SHUTUP" lmaooo
“ Because I’m a Researcher !!! “
- Gilbert Arenas
Luka, Shai, Giannis, Embiid and Joker v Steph, LBJ, Tatum, KD and AD. That matchup Id take World. If it was 12 deep tho, USA has a better chance, but World would still have Sabonis, Wemby, Gobert, Markenen, Murray
EDIT: I understand some don’t consider Embiid international because he’s choosing to play for Team USA, but to me it speaks more simply to his mindset and his weak help country wise. Hakeem played for Team USA, yet most say he’s the greatest international player ever.
Embiid wouldn’t be with the world he would be with USA, he’s a citizen now and is playing for team USA in the olympics
it would be kinda weird to have embiid play for the international team, now that he has decided to play for team usa
Embiid USA bro
Sabonis was born in Portland
Most of them international guys really aren’t international they went to school in the USA and lived here for a period of time. What people consider international is people who played professionally overseas. That’s why people don’t look at Canadians as international players. Joel was born overseas moved to Florida then went to Kansas that’s why he wanted to play for the USA. Wiggins went to prep school in America then went to college in America. And he is from Toronto America most likely wasn’t foreign to him. When you break down some of these players they lived in America for a period of time. They were born somewhere else.
If it's who would win 1 game?? Ill take the euros!
Gil so right yall loving it
🗣️Move around nd watch out !! Love when BJ nd Shad say that stuff ..
Gilbert is wrong about the bench for all star game hes making up rules
Embiid should be on the international team
You mean Team USA Embiid?
Sabonis is American, too, his Father played for the Trailblazers when he was born. He went to high school in Oregon and played college at Gonzaga😂😂😂
Yeah embiid chose to play for usa, but he’s not originally 🤷🏽♂️
He reps team USA and feels more American than international
Kyrie from Australia. Gil don’t know wtf he talking about
Shad vs Gil is great content 😂
Gil always exploding lol 😂😂
God damn it Gil, you forced me to agree with Rashad. Damn you.
6 players makes them better than all of the few hundred American players as a whole that’s ridiculous
Mccants is just a casual. They didn’t mention gobert, wagner, sengun, og anunoby, etc. he could have had a better lineup
Hundreds cant play, in the main would be 5 v 5 with some bench players.
@@krish5526but mccant team still better his nba players he named in total and he didnt pick the best.
Embid is world also
@@CR250rSMITHmbiid is us bro. You rep what team you would play for internationally. If we go by anything other than that then mad african players won't be in european teams.
From a commercial perspective having a
World v USA game at the all star game, it will have more commercial appeal internationally.
No tf it wouldn't 💀 nobody going to the all star game to watch sabonis and markonnen lmaoo
Cant believe im going to say this but Rashad is right. That team wipes the floor lmao
🤦Bro, he's picking players from 194 different countries(World)to beat 1( USA). Shai and Murray r from North America, played high school, and college❤ basketball in the States. Then Sabonis is not even International. He's American born and raised in Oregon and played college at Gonzaga😂😂😂
No it doesn’t.
@@cwhitt8110 "🤦Bro, he's picking players from 194 different countries(World)to beat 1( USA)."
No, he isn't. He's picking from international players who play in the NBA.
Germany won the FIBA world cup last year. USA came 4th. Spain won the world cup before that, and USA came 7th.
@penkima4923 🤦 Germany sent their best, Spain sent their best. Bro, Austin Reaves, Bobby Portis, Walker Kessler, Josh Hart, Cameron Johnson, and Mikal Bridges played on that FIBA team. 7 Non All-Stars, some dez mf don't start on f**king NBA teams😂😂😂
@penkima4923 🤦At least 6 of the mf on our FIBA team couldn't average 20ppg if u gave em 20 shots a game😂😂😂
Nahhh the comments full of riders Rashad list valid asf ‼️ the international players have been balling
First time I agreed 100% with Gil
lol Rashad team filled with a bunch of centers and power forwards lol 😂
There's mostly big men drafted from outside the U.S., because there's limited scouting information.
If you're picking players from all 194(World)countries to play 1(USA)country, they should win. Then he still can't find 6 guards😂😂😂
So why Gil arguing it?
The problem with gils argument is euro players are a minority in the NBA so of course there's a bigger chance of USA stars can rise up. But the fact that there is a number of all star international players despite them being the minority says alot
That’s basically his point from the beginning. Naming how many players that are in the league as a whole. But he couldn’t comprehend so he had to keep talking.
Thats the point
14% of the league is European
They’ve won 2 chips in the last 20 years. International players are better now, but come on, the best players in the history of the game are American. It’s not close.
@@Combusta back then yes. Europeans have only became better in recent years and there's even less euros back then.
"you need 3 guards" "what's a 3 guard" lol
Starters: Shai Luka Giannis Jokic Embiid
Bench: Jamal Siakem Lauri Sabonis Porzingis Wemby
Starters: Steph Booker KD Bron Bam
Bench: Kyrie Ant Tatum Kawhi Chet or KAT
I think they said Embiid is gonna be representing America. "NBA star Joel Embiid has chosen to represent the United States over France in the 2024 Paris Olympics."
Gil is so hurt that Euro's are taking over the NBA. His xenophobia is crazy.
insecure that the u.s. cant develop skilled players
@@ektran4205☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Man please stop it, you guys have a couple good players, aint taking over anything
rashaads lineup is niiice
That why Gil upset he know that lineup is deadly
First, they have to determine which side these players who have dual citizenship, want to play for.
@Mandozen easy, the national team they play
We just got word that lebron is Dominican 🤣 had me weak
Gil right on his points in the beginning about the all stats having to be taken out
Since when do we discuss 450 basketball players? We always discuss the top 5-10 AT BEST. Now that the top 5-10 is being shaken up by international players we want to move the goal post? Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Wemby, Shai, Embiid... All international players, at least 4 of them are in the top 5. I'm not going to say Wemby or Shai is over KD.
The fall off occurs once you get past those top 4 Euros. Rashad was naming guys like Giddy and Wagner as reserves. Think about the USA reserves, and it's not competition. So unless they are playing all 48 mins, you need a complete roster.
@@justified004 If we were to measure where the bulk of revenue comes from in terms of the NBA, it would be from the top players which is why they pour so much money behind marketing the very best, the tickets, merch, tv deals, fans buy into a very small percentage of players so let's not act like we're talking about 450 players. It's like a record label, when they want to sell an artist on joining their label, they don't mention the 110th artist, they name the top 3-5 names because those are the names that makes the label just like it's the top players that makes the NBA, if they are bad then the league suffers, if the rest are bad nobody cares, just look at the 90s and every era before. We don't talk about reserves. That's just moving the goalpost and you know it.
@hakshustletv dude, what are you rambling about. By your own logic, that means that the American team is better because no players are marketed and pushed more than Steph and LeBron. The top 3 selling jerseys are Americans and 7 of the top 10 are too.
This argument is about which team would win in an All-Star game setting, USA or International. Like I said, the international team has a comparable if not slightly better starting 5 but no professional game is played with ONLY 5 guys. You have to have reserves and the international team falls off a cliff once you go to the bench. Whereas the USA team stay at an elevated level with its reserves. I don't deny that the Euros have arguably 4 of the top 5 but after that USA has arguably 20 of the top 25. The bottom line is that the Euros are top heavy.
@@justified004 You guys completed everything, the simple statement was International players are taking over the NBA. The fact of the matter is, right now the best players in the league are international players. When we discuss the best, we're talking about guys in the MVP race and/or the top 5 at best the top 10. The highest ranking players right now are International players, widely considered the best players are Jokic, Giannis, Embiid and Luka. It's really that simple. There was nothing more to it. If you want to say the statement is exaggerated fine, but we know what was meant by it and now people want to be technical and talk about 12 players, 450 players etc... just because they want to move away from what the actual statement meant.
@hakshustletv this was never about the best player or MVP. You made it about that. The discussion was about if they would change the All-Star game to USA vs. International. No one is debating that 4 of the top 5 are Euros, as that is already proven true. 5 of the last MVPs were won by Giannis, Jokic, and Embid, but none of that matters when making a complete roster for a game. Why do you think Rashad listed 10 guys? I'll say it again, once you get to the reserves, the team looks completely different. Also, to act like that international 5 is way better than what the USA would have is crazy. Steph, Tatum, LeBron, KD and AD are a great squad. Add Kyrie, Edwards, Kawhi, Dame, and PG then their 10 is far better than what Rashad named. USA has far more ball handlers, great shooting, better defense, and way more experience. I agree that the best player is European but it's not a takeover when 8 of the last 10 chips where won by an American star and 20 of the top 25 are still American. If Giannis or Jokic when 1 or 2 more chips in the next 2 or 3 years, then I'd agree.