Sonic 2's AIR Equivalent (was) Here! | Community's Cut
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- After Sonic 3 AIR, a new modification started to turn heads. Community's Cut is designed to bring Sonic 2 to PC with modern enhancements like widescreen. At the time of posting, it was the best way to replay Sonic 2 on PC.
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(You need Sonic 2 on Steam installed, or a REV01 ROM).
Outro Music: Launch Base Rearranged - Savaged Regime
Background Music:
The Ink Spots Cover by JustDom Show
#sonic2 #sega #sonicthehedgehog
Cybershell is drooling rn
Words cannot describe how much I hate him. Anyone who disrespects Knuckles Chaotix or Sonic 4 episode 1 is my enemy!
Job any other shit you want ⁸1w1sz
@@genyakozlov1316 Sonic 4 episode 1 is the biggest pile of fucking trash i’ve ever had the displeasure of playing
@@genyakozlov1316 Please tell me you are being sarcastic
@@dreamareakoso3791 it has better bosses than manya :moyai:
So basically Sonic 2: Westside Island Revisited?
Good name for it
@Mihnea Bărbulescu nah Sonic 1 is in South Island, so it'd be SIR
next we need Sonic 1: South Island Revisited
SIR sonic
Nah, Sonic 2: Emerald Hill Revisited
S2 Absolute: *FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, I LAY DORMANT.*
*S2CC:* COMIN' SOON!
*S2 Decompilation:* Allow me to introduce myself.
*S2CC:* ...aight I'mma head out.
It is *very* unfortunate that this comes out just at the time fans finally decompile the Android versions of Sonic 1 and 2 and make them natively playable on PC and Vita.
and switch too
And yet this was still better with accurate (unremoved) glitchless shortcuts, tiles, hitboxes, and physics...
I was not expecting that Shantae gif lmao
same
"People love Sonic 2"
And now a certain doggo seems to love it too.
I had NO Idea this was a thing.
@Sadist Fake Bootleg Tiki what
If it's missing an entire level from the mobile port, is that really "definitive"? Much better I could see, but that & the revamped special stages still make me think the taxman port is better. Now if we could only get a PC or Switch port.
this is available on the switch..
also I’m pretty sure hidden palace is being worked on
The Taxman version of this and Sonic 1 JUST got decompiled today and plays natively on PC. th-cam.com/video/BZPdsNWOG0Y/w-d-xo.html
Speaking of that, someone recently decompiled S1 and S2's mobile ports and got them running on PC.
@@NeonGSP I hope they use Track 10
An entire level that never existed in the game, and thus isn't required in a "definitive" version.
Hmm, I'd say the mobile port is still the better all around version, with its remastered music, 3D 60FPS Special Stages, and Hidden Palace. But this is certainly a good step.
Music:twitter.com/heyjoeway/status/1349220445707530242?s=19 (basically someone will definitely make a mod for the remastered soundtrack)
Special stages:twitter.com/heyjoeway/status/1288217795810021377?s=19 (still a wip, that'swhy they are not in the release)
Hidden palace:twitter.com/heyjoeway/status/1283771373152870400?s=19 (not sure about adding it because it will take huge effort. I don't see why it's so important to people though. It'snice and all but it was just there for fanservice. It wasn'tthe original intention of the stage in the first place)
You have moves like insta shield, dropdash, elemental shileds no longer require you to put a code to unlock it, you can use physics options from all classic games, you have the cd camera, you have an option for air curling, (which should have been a stable in classic games like spindash) and most importantly:
Romhacking options. You can basically do anything you could do with the original sonic 2.
Oh and forgot to mention:in mobile port, sonic doesn't get "teleported" to higher paths even if your jump is missing like 2 pixels (probably a bug in the original, but it's present in mania so I don't know why they cut it in the mobile release) since this uses the original game as source, now you can. This really bothered me in the mobile release
This is definitely the best version.
@@---oq5kb And this version has the air dash/homing attack too. I think it acts like the mod from S3 A.I.R.
@@Charizardslash it is technically from the magamix romhack instead of the sonic 3 air mod, and I remember that heyjoeway asked for a standalone moveset mod for the megamix mania (so they could be played on the vanilla levels.) That's probably why it's here as well. (If that's the case, maybe the flight cancel is also here)
Forgot to mention, apparently in this romhack you can use super sonic/ invincibility along with the elemental shields, but he may have removed it because the video didn't show it.(or the dude just forgot to talk about it)
Also heyjoeway made a poll about what he should add next in the next release, and hidden palace zone is the most requested thing, and the second is special stages. Almost every complaint in the original comment will soon(?) disappear.
@Alex Garner holy shit.
Disregard my posts, apparently the developer of sonic 2 community cut's will be shifting his work to the decompilation (he ported it to fucking switch already)
Apparently he's gonna port moves from his project to this game as well.
Not to mention it's as zoomed in as the 4:3 original where the mobile port gave Sonic's sprite less space on the screen
I hope this Sonic 2 port adds the Zone to Zone cutscenes that Sonic 3 & Knuckles had where it shows you how you transitioned to the next Zone after completing the second Act.
I love the intro that I am a gummy bear thing got me it was like I had a tear in my eye lol
* omg that gummibär album reference hit me with nostalgia i never knew i had.
It's great to find out there's a community cut of Sonic 2 being worked on however I wouldn't say it's the definitive version yet. It sounds like the audio is slower too.
In my opinion a definitive version of Sonic 2 needs:
- Widescreen
- Expanded moveset for Sonic, Tails can fly
- Remixed music for act 2's (a personal preference)
- Hidden Palace Zone at minimum, ALL scrapped Zones reimplemented with good level design to truly shine
- Saving
- Better special stage performance
Who needs Sonic 2 Community's Cut, when the PC port of mobile version is available!
Where?
I will try sonic 2CC even after the decomp and yes some people will like s2cc more than the decomp and others like the decomp more than s2cc but i think you should give BOTH a try and if you like one of them use them forever.
This is the best way to play Sonic 2...on PC without Bluestacks. I still say the mobile ports with Bluestacks is the best way to play it simply because of all the added polish and new/restored content.
Looks impressive. Is going to be the definitive way to play Sonic 2 on PC, much like Sonic 3 AIR is the definitive way to play Sonic 3K on PC.
decomps: hello
@@kellymountain sonic 2 absolute: hello
Daaaaaaaaaaaang! Now we need one for Sonic 1 to complete the trilogy and everything is just *chef kiss*
Sonic 1 with Spindash on PC is the only thing I need.
@Biggles! Well yeah. And the Sonic 3 shields.
YES I'VE BEEN WANTING THIS FOR SO LONG
“Audio Pop-in!”
*nothing*
(I’m aware I probably just can’t hear it, but it was funny to me anyway)
0:04 Look for the Gummibär album in stores on November 13th, with lots of music, videos and extras!
While I don't this Sonic 2 is the best of the classic trilogy, looking at this community cut version could enhance almost everyone's experience.
I'm hyped. Thank you FrameRater!
Nice, now all we need is Sonic 1 and we're golden!
sonic 1 revisited:
Things that this needs: the robotnik sprites from sonic 1
Hidden palace
Dust hill
Wood zone
Genocide city
3D special stages
Green grounders
And maybe Cutscenes
Dust Hill was just the beta name of Mystic Cave.
Genocide City was (probably) transferred over to be Metropolis Act 3.
3D Special Stages may be coming.
Wood Zone might have been Metropolis 3 as well..?
@@Charizardslash to quote cybershell "Mystic Cave was never going to be called Dusty Hill" and genocide city might be a separate zone wood zone might be in a time travel Cut scene like mania
While I am very impressed, the Special Stages prevent this from being the best version in my eyes. I think I will stick to the mobile port... for now.
They said that they would be updating it to play more like the mobile version.
@@Charizardslash Now we're talkin'!
S2 community's cut: who are you?
mobile ports on PC: *i'm you, but better in every way.*
Definitely not in every way but yeah you are right.
Oh hey, I'm hype for this as well!
Tbh the developers really need to fix the special stages, and THEN it will be the best version to play the game
Well theres no real way to do that. The only way is porting the source code to pc.
They said that they're fixing it. It still has about 5 days till release after all so they can do some tweaking.
@@Charizardslash well 5 days for a solo project is VERY little. He still has to finish the save system in those 5 days.
@@gamingnubs7628 That might come in a later update.
@@Charizardslash if your talking about the save slots, he said he hopes to have atleast 1 save slot on launch, so i doubt he can push it back.
Oof, Sonic 2 mobile decomp just had to release a few days later. Rip Community's Cut.
Even with the mobile version ported to PC, the Community's Cut still have enhancements that make it worth playing.
0:04 nice reference, had a good laugh on that
Cool, my voice clip was used.
I always thought the AIR equivalents we're Sonic 2 Absolute, and Sonic 1 Forever
This was before that.
Didn't expect the Knucklehead to come back xD
I heard the very start of the intro I thought, what is this a reference too?
Then, quickly I remembered.
*THE FUCKING GUMMY BEAR AULBUM ADVERSTISMENT THING.*
one day until sonic 2 community's cut
The timing of the decompilation is insane. Feel bad for the dev. All that work to be undermined.
(Edit) Also Sonic CD mobile and Sonic CD on steam aren’t the same. Sonic CD mobile is much better and that has been decompiled as well.
What's the difference between the mobile and steam ports?
@@TheExFatal From what I heard the audio was butchered quite a bit. I’m not too sure on all the details though. I do know the mobile is superior. There’s a vita port of the mobile port now. Sonic 1/2/CD mobile are decompiled.
The Steam port has always been fine to me ??
I never expected a Gummy Bear reference out of anyone but me
"sonic the hedgehog 2 on steam"
sigh sound effect
sonic origins has taken over the community cut
thank god i got sonic 2 on steam when it was free.
It’s such a shame they couldn’t make the special stages widescreen too, it’s the only thing stopping this from being the absolute best way to play this game. I wish the mobile ports could just be ported to steam already
This is W I D E
I don't own sonic 2 for steam but I do have the physical copy for my mega drive. Ill 100% check this out at release!
Will there be 360 rotations for the character sprites like in S3 AIR and Mania?
This is really cool, but the lack of Hidden Palace and 3D special stages make me want to stick with the mobile version on Bluestacks.
Both are gonna come in updates
SONIK 2 WUZ HERE
But seriously, though this was overshadowed by the release of the Taxman/Stealth ports, this is still a really cool technical achievement and its implementation could probably prove useful for bringing other Genesis games to the wide screen. So still, great work, HeyJoeWay!
Wonder what kind of copyright fuckfest would occur if there was a remaster for Michael Jackson's Moonwalker
That's actually pretty cool. It looks very promising and I'll play it when it comes out, but to be honest, I really have no problem with playing the mobile port on an emulator.
IT REALEASSES TOMMOROW BOIS.
Hyper pog
today is 1/22 here just a few hours until it releases
2:17 was also the case for mobile version, just for info =)
It definitely took much more effort though considering mobile version was 16:9 game from the start while this was built off from a 4:3 rom.
Sonic 2 Emerald hill revisited
*West Island Revisited
This port looks very promising but I can't help but be bothered by the lower pitched audio as if the game was being played on a PAL Mega Drive or even Mega Collection.
Not sure if it's the emulator having its region flag set to Europe or some outside element that I'm not aware of but I hope this audio querk doesn't carry over into the public release as it's oddly distracting to hear the lower pitch after being used to the NTSC version for the longest time. This might be nitpicky but at the same time I didn't expect this to show up considering the Genesis Plus GX backend for this usually has pretty good sound emulation.
The one thing keeping this from being the best way to play Sonic 2 is the special stages limitations
I'm just gonna call it Sonic 2 Westside Island Revisited.
This aged like milk. Sonic 1 and 2 mobile were ported to pc today
I will download this once it includes all of the following:
- Save files
- Hidden Palace Zone
- The option to play Track 10 in Hidden Palace Zone (preferably as the default option because *why wouldn't you make it the default option?* But not a deal breaker if I have to physically change it.)
- The option to change the controls (AIR doesn't even have that yet, and it hurts the port so much)
- Mod Support
Until then, I'll pass
Holy shit I’ve been following this for so long I’m so glad you covered this
Hm, noticed some performance drops even though I'm watching at 60 fps. Is that a result of the game or recording?
It shouldn't? What part of the video specifically?
The originally game has some slowdowns.
Seems like the gameplay is recorded at 30fps, you can till by some sprites that don't render correctly at half the framerate like the shields or the barries for wing fortress boss.
@@HOWLWOLF And the water.
What's wrong with patching in the 60fps mobile bonus stage, specially if they've gone this far? Just sew that shit in, like a quilt.
i think it’s a bit more complicated than that
@@dreamareakoso3791 yeah well I don't like that defeatist attitude
@@PrickSlickfield username checks out
@@PrickSlickfield That's not how development works.
Alternative title - Sonic 2 West Island Remastered
Now we need a "Community cut" version of Sonic 1
No because the mobile ports are on pc now
@@eibh07 Yeah but what about the act transitions? I would love to see that in Sonic 1.
@@tarkanertugrul7808 True.. Im pretty sure theres a sonic 1 remake for sonic mania so it might be there
Neat, but I'll probably hold off until it's finished. Bluestacks always worked fine for me.
is it me or is the pitch of the music a tad off? it's like if the game was being played in PAL mode
It is
0:52 Sonic CD was the first of the Taxman ports, followed by 1, 2, an unreleased proof of concept demo for Sonic 3, and Mania.
Me, with my free ROM I got from Steam during the Sega discounts:
*sip of I'm gonna try this the day it comes out tea*
I still don't get why Sega hasn't brought the mobile ports to other platforms. I know we got the Sega Genesis Classics versions on Steam but those are emulations.
Now we have origins :)
Until they fix the special stages, I'm sticking to 2013
this is really nice!
I wouldn't call BlueStacks impractical, besides, the mobile version controls and looks perfect as is, I get the want to play on a monitor, but that is literally the only thing you're sacrificing. Even that can be fixed given you have some way of mirroring your device.
Though the other additions are quite nice, and a fun project to follow to the future! Some of the visual changes and camera options go a long way towards a unique experience.
I hope Team Forever implement the same smooth act transitions.
four days until sonic 2 community's cut.
I thought this was just Sonic 2 absolute
Edit: S2 absolute looks better because it's actually built off the mobile port
Does this include turning the pit into hidden palace door way
The sounds seems to be a lower pitch than usual, or maybe that's just me.
i dreamed about that today
Just watched the other video. Glad we can finally play the widescreen versions of Sonic 1 and 2 on something other than our phones.
What's next, now? Sonic Classic Heroes?
Sonic 2 is one of my favorite sonic games. I still think it's a shame that they never released the mobile port on steam
"Lástima" que ya se pueden portear las versiones de Android a PC y esta versión quedará obsoleta
cant wailt till "Sonic CD LPR is announced
when i will instal the game is page not found bruh'-'
It's not out to public yet.
I could see this becoming a lot like A.i.R in the future.
God dammit, someone finished a sonic 2 pc port before I've even started my PC remake.
We need Sonic 1 sir (South Island revisited)
Now all we need is a Sonic 1 equivalent
Where's ToeJam & Earl: Funkotron Revisited?
You'll need the Steam version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 before you can run the fangame.
1:40
That's kinda cursed...
if anyone fixes the transparency issues with the shield i’m more than willing to give it a go but for now it seems too much like an emulator, sonic 3 air feels in engine like mania does
From the options menu, I think you can change it to have Mania physics.
Sonic 3: AIR
Sonic 2: CC (shortened for Community's Cut)
Y no Sonic 1 remastered in PC?
This looks great. Idk why Sega never bothered porting the android version to pc. Is there any way to play sonic 1 in widescreen?
I hope they didn't fix the Oil Ocean glitch that gave you massive speed and jump height.
The best way to play Sonic isn't on the phone, it's on a Chromebook.
It's one of the extremely few standouts for this damned laptop on game selection. It's been optimized for a keyboard and laptop screen.
I'm mainly interested in the multiplayer on all levels, because we constantly play the original multiplayer with my niece, and having more levels for it would be nice. Wide screen doesn't interest me much.
The Special Stage still Being 2D is a deal Breaker tô me, If it's still emulation and not an actual remaster (what Sonic 3 Angel Island Revisited is) i'm sticking with the mobile Version(that IS not a Port) and If i want to play on a Big Screen BlueStacks It is
Isn't it still technically a port considering the game was ported to that new engine for mobile?
@@FrameRater it's more of a remaster tham Just a Port, the 3DS and Switch Versions by M2 (that are perfectly Fine versions tô play) are more similar to ports in my opinion
all remakes are technically ports, but not all ports are remakes?
as far as vague definitions go, that makes enough sense to me lol
By the Way they decompiled the mobile games and now both are fully playable on PC
this is 3 years ago when is it out?
if i wanna be honest guys the sonic 1 and 2 2013 ports are dated lets be honest their super good but what im saying is
the Sonic 2 community's cut is sick it has a lot things that their not in the Sonic 2 2013 mobile port
16:9 Widescreen
Knuckles
Tails flight and assist
S2 2013 layout additions
Elemental shields
Insta-shield
anddd you get it but the community's cut seems awesome to me
they are.
Air curling, à la Megamix
Analog stick support
Mirror mode
Integer scaling
Sonic CD extended camera
Speed shoes trail
Water ripple effect
Underwater sound filter
Music, SFX, and super music toggles
Various bugfixes and tweaks
Super Peel Out
Homing attack
insta shield and dropdash
plus hope he adds free movements
its basically when Sonic Spindashes and jump, he's not locked it he can move in the air after he spindashed and jumped would be the best Enhancements ever So Yep Hope it gets completed and updates come to improve it the sonic 1 and 2 port are Good but there are errors and I just don't like it
that's my opinion
This is just depressing, man. Really wanted to see this finished, but don't think I can really complain considering the Forever and Absolute versions now exist.