I've got a CZ-52 - if you want a Tok then that's hands down the best version out there...after you replace the firing pin. That said - .357 - 125gr - 1459 fps - 583 foot pounds 7.62x25 - 85gr - 1630 fps - 514 foot pounds OK, so you can see why the two are viewed as being similar as the while the Tok fires a far lighter round, it's moving faster so since the foot pounds are a combination of the mass + velocity you can see why the two are considered to be similar. You can also see why the Tok is considered to be so hot as you've got a pistol firing at rifle grade velocities which when combined with the steel core of the military ammo meant that for the longest time the Tok could blow through most types of body armor. The irony is that you actually weren't being fair by using that custom ammo as people who say the two are comparable are comparing the actual standard .357 load to that of the Tok - we say that our 85 gr round is on par with the magnum's standard 125 gr round and are willing to go head to head despite it being 40 gr lighter and as you can see from the ballistics, the claim is fair. All said, the .357 is still better for normal self-defense as the Tok is actually too hot - without the JHP ammo that's now impossible to find for it, it goes straight through a soft target like a laser while the .357 hits like a brick - I want a big, ugly, gaping wound rather than a small, clean, neat hole when I shoot a criminal.
There is incredibly hot tok ammo out there, we dont get the hottest of it in the US because of legal issues but the sellier and bellot is pretty zippy. Pricey tho
Hey I had the same issue with my M57 when I put a new hammer in it. The slide would always stick back and I would have to force it closed. After a bit of investigating it turns out that the bore in the hammer for the spring was too shallow and would compress the spring fully but still would not allow the hammer to pivot enough to allow the slide to move freely. All I had to do was file the ends of the spring just a little to allow the hammer to pivot all the way. I only removed about 1mm of the spring and that did the trick. looks like you have the same issue.
@@danielohara2974 i hav 2 of em do, intermittently 5-6 or 7th round on Yugo ammo. Slide will almost close, so push with gun hand thumb. Btw red primer seal must be removed, flakes off causing jambs also.
Just going to throw this out there. Thoroughly enjoying the testing btw, but I found my m57 was much more pleasant to shoot without the safety. So depending on the exact nature of your external safety you might consider removing it.
7.62×25mm tokarev is criminally underrated its actually one hell of a powerful cartridge. You can call it old times .357 magnum. This thing can surely blow up a charging bear.
@@Cattleclysmic You can load a 110+ grain hard cast from a Tokarev going 1400+ fps... And will surely mess up a bear. Good sectional density, penetration and energy dump. Plus being low recoil you could double taps all day easy... or can always go with a lighter solid copper lehigh xtreme cavitator bullet going 1700-1900 fps and just nuke the bear.
@@pvtpinecone420 Read Officer Gramin's incident where he landed a unarmored criminal 14 shots with .45 ACP, 7 of these shots were in fatal parts. Criminal kept moving and trying to shoot the officer. Now do the math, if a human can withstand 14x .45 ACP rounds(7 of which are fatal wounds) and still present danger, then imagine a bear.
The Tok is a browning design, ie it uses a linkage. Linkages come in different lengths to change the dwell time of the lock up. and while you are at it get yourself some PPU 7.62x25 HP ammo.
Hand load the tokarev ammo and it's hot lol Accurate no 9 max load tested with a 86 grain bullet 13 grains of powder if I remember correctly is 1900 fps out of the test barrel 7inch test barrel. I have the EAA windicator 357mag snub nose revolver. I also have a tokarev tt33. I load my 357 mag 158 grain hpswc 16 grains of h110 powder it's hot load max load. They both kick and send fireballs. But speed is high in both only difference is the bullet weight. Both rock and roll. The tokarev is a high velocity that's why it went through the water jug hole in hole out. The 357 mag has bigger diameter and the bullet design creates more shock shoot ballistic gel blocks your tokarev will have less of a hydro shock channel while the 357 will have a bigger channel. The tokarev is an over penetrating military round.
@@theblindsniper9130 they have test here on TH-cam of tokarev ammo military surplus penetration of level 1 and 2 body armor . Is that good enough? The tokarev is said to not be a good personal concealed carry as it over penetrates though and through as many military rounds do. In and out to make two to three off line to take care of the wounded soldiers.
Smaller, lighter, faster bullets penetrate better than slower, heavier bullets. Especially full metal jacket rounds, as opposed to soft or hollow point. This is why I tested the 7.62x25 against FMJ 357. This is the best response I can give here, as I'm unsure what your point here is
You should see some of Mike B's helmet test. Especially the East German M67, and the bulgarian and romanian helmets. Shockingly, Tokarev failed to penetrate!
Wouldn't it be a better test if you compared standard ball ammo to standard ball ammo? My logic tells me that getting the weights as close as possible throws off the test. Sort of like making a lightweight boxer gain weight, and making a mid-weight boxer lose weight, then throwing them in a ring.
Standard 125 grain green and white box from Remington would of been a better comparison. That would of gave better representation of the 357. However, where they are comparable at is the super flat trajectory, and the penetration capabilities.... which you discovered and covered closer to the end of your video...
You are doing okay but you need, to put the targets in clear order and consistently, and distinguish between the two rounds, otherwise you doing okay, just organize it again and repeat it over again I like to see the results. Thank you!! 🎉
I like how you said it’s pretty much impossible to do a direct comparison between calibers. My favorite way is to just find the highest energy rounds for each one and compare them across a different battery of tests, standard gel testing with heavy clothing, shooting cinder blocks, through car doors into gel, and through armor into gel. For standard rounds like 9mm and .40 etc, the armor testing would only be with liberty civil defense, fort scotts tui, and possibly extreme penetrator or defenders +p or +p+. I know the 10mm extreme penetrator will go through 3a, 6” of gel, and through a cinder block lol. And 9mm fort scotts 90 gr tui, forget if +p or not, went through a 3a and a 2a vest at the same time, demonstrated by Paul Harrel. And the .40 civil defense went at least through 6” of gel through a 3a vest. I do not believe 9mm extreme defender or penetrator, even the 90 gr +p+ or 68 gr +p will go through 3a armor, but I could be wrong. It does go through 2a though. There are several different factors for testing rounds, such as armor penetration, barrier blindness, penetration or explosive wound cavity balancing, etc. For example, for bears, you want complete penetration with a hardcast round, for humans you want some type of good hollowpoint thats barrier blind and expands but still penetrates 12-18” of gel. Or a tumbling round or monolithic solid like extreme defender. I pretty much just edc a combination of .40 with 135 gr Underwood noslers (those and the 155 gr xtp’s have up to 675 ft lbs of energy out of a 4.9” barrel, much more energy than most factory 10mm, and more energy than ANY .357 sig I can find), 165 gr and 180 gr hst, and 60 gr civil defense. The HST is my barrier blind bullet that’s also just an all around performer against unarmored targets. Critical defense is also a great choice in .40, and is way better in .40 than 9mm. It’s just not as easy to find cheap bulk critical defense as HST and the HST should be just about as good, though it has lower energy. The .40 165 gr HST’s are about 467 ft lbs energy, the 180’s are 408, and the critical defense is rated at only 400, but I saw somebody get 507 ft lbs through a chronograph on a glock 22, and the HST Ive never seen over 500. The Underwood 135 gr and 155 gr’s are the most powerful rounds that perform well through heavy clothing and the majority of what Im loaded with, and then one magazine of civil defense for anyone with a vest. For my 9mm I use critical defense 124 +p, hst 124 standard or +p, civil defense +p, fort scotts tui, and +p+ 90 gr extreme defenders and +p 68 gr extreme defenders. For .380 I use the extreme defender 68 gr +p and underwood item 152 hollowpoints (out of stock) and then the absolute best for .380 is the new Underwood XTP rounds. They perform better than most 9mm xtp rounds lol.
Most off the shelf .30/06, deer rammo at 150 grains are much more effective than "ball", "surplus" ammo. .Military ammo is typically ,NOT hot ammo. Some rounds, like NATO 124 gr 9mm that's pretty hot or linked Ammo meant for belt fed machine guns,can be the exception.
Youre not the first to feel that way. I actually have a video specifically for people with that opinion, exactly what youre looking for th-cam.com/video/SlWSm3xrIXY/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm.....always thought "ball" was the type of powder ..you know, like stick, ball, flake, flask, primer, etc etc....many diff powders.... But your test sounds fair enough to me
There is a ball type of powder, but the projectile itself, mostly referring to FML round nose bullets like a 45 or any military loadings, is also called 'ball'
Sucks that your tokky is cursed. My recently acquired '56 ttc has been nothing but reliable. If i would've gotten one like that for my first tokky I'd probably never have bought one again
How about you actually clean the Tokarev and then bring it back for a legit field test. Cleaning it isn't a wipe down... ...it's a field strip and then if it is still a safety risk... GET RID OF IT BRO. But thanks for sharing the video with us man. I knew the 7.62 x 25 wasn't the power of a .357 but IT IS SERIOUSLY Close. What are your thoughts on Mosin Negant "Arc Angel" stock?
Ok I have a polish tt33. My gun would stick and jam like that.... I fixed it years ago.. put it in a bucket of simple green... let it eat the old cosmo out .. then take mothers aluminum polish and pack it in the ways. Bare frame and slide only of course.. and work the slide till it’s smooth. And clean the shit out of it.... when you assemble. Use a small amount of lithium grease. She will cycle sweet.. I have some videos when I first built it on my channel. Pardon the video quality lmao
@@theblindsniper9130 chances are it’s not smooth and the power forces it past.. but hangs up on return... wish I could look at it.. I’ve built them for all my buddies.. it’s kind of a tt33 cult around here 😂🇺🇸
I think you're missing the point if what I was trying to do here. Get the projectiles of the cartridges to be as close as possible to the same specs, and see the difference. Though I like the idea of doing factory loads too. I'll give it a test.
Dude I dont know why your Tok is so poorly functioning ? My Chinese Tok is as smooth as butter with loading and function yours is a accident waiting to happen . I would get it functioning properly or shelve it . I appreciate your support of the firearm world but a little less on the obvious via your commentary would go along way in people wanting to follow your reviews .
Yeah it has been shelved until I figure out whats going on. And as far as commentary, theres tons and tons of videos on this platform with way less talking. Thousands of other channels that just blend together in similarities. I wont be part of that. If you come to my channel, you get my input.
I hate being the know it all gun guy considering I make gun barrels for a living. I deal with that constantly. The 7.62x25 in Sellier & Bellot is more powerful than 357 magnum.
@@amc8118 The beautiful thing about ammo is that there are so many different kinds. Not all 357 and 7.62 Tok is made the same. Just as there is some 8mm mauser ammo out there that is hotter than 30-06
That's true! Try Sellier & Bellot in 7.62x25 and then come back with your results. I have something coming out next year you maybe very interested in that has to do with 7.62x25.
You are doing okay but you need, to put the targets in clear order and consistently, and distinguish between the two rounds, otherwise you doing okay, just organize it again and repeat it over again I like to see the results. Thank you!! 🎉
I've got a CZ-52 - if you want a Tok then that's hands down the best version out there...after you replace the firing pin. That said -
.357 - 125gr - 1459 fps - 583 foot pounds
7.62x25 - 85gr - 1630 fps - 514 foot pounds
OK, so you can see why the two are viewed as being similar as the while the Tok fires a far lighter round, it's moving faster so since the foot pounds are a combination of the mass + velocity you can see why the two are considered to be similar.
You can also see why the Tok is considered to be so hot as you've got a pistol firing at rifle grade velocities which when combined with the steel core of the military ammo meant that for the longest time the Tok could blow through most types of body armor.
The irony is that you actually weren't being fair by using that custom ammo as people who say the two are comparable are comparing the actual standard .357 load to that of the Tok - we say that our 85 gr round is on par with the magnum's standard 125 gr round and are willing to go head to head despite it being 40 gr lighter and as you can see from the ballistics, the claim is fair.
All said, the .357 is still better for normal self-defense as the Tok is actually too hot - without the JHP ammo that's now impossible to find for it, it goes straight through a soft target like a laser while the .357 hits like a brick - I want a big, ugly, gaping wound rather than a small, clean, neat hole when I shoot a criminal.
Uhhh ppv sells 85gr HP ammo for tok
@@anewzack78Does that PPU JHP stuff even work though? A lot of their other "JHP" in both rifle and pistol calibers perform like FMJs/soft points.
@@wizkaqueefa9003 there's videos on TH-cam here
@@wizkaqueefa9003Absolutely!
Too much blah blah
There is incredibly hot tok ammo out there, we dont get the hottest of it in the US because of legal issues but the sellier and bellot is pretty zippy. Pricey tho
Dip! You're OUTSIDE! Leave the dam SPIDERS alone!
Hey I had the same issue with my M57 when I put a new hammer in it. The slide would always stick back and I would have to force it closed. After a bit of investigating it turns out that the bore in the hammer for the spring was too shallow and would compress the spring fully but still would not allow the hammer to pivot enough to allow the slide to move freely. All I had to do was file the ends of the spring just a little to allow the hammer to pivot all the way. I only removed about 1mm of the spring and that did the trick. looks like you have the same issue.
I like the idea, but I have the same issue with the gun completely disassembled. Definitely an issue with the slide and frame.
@@theblindsniper9130 Ahh ok... Seemed like the issue I had. On a different note, I love the videos...Keep it up.
@@danielohara2974 i hav 2 of em do, intermittently 5-6 or 7th round on Yugo ammo. Slide will almost close, so push with gun hand thumb. Btw red primer seal must be removed, flakes off causing jambs also.
Just going to throw this out there. Thoroughly enjoying the testing btw, but I found my m57 was much more pleasant to shoot without the safety. So depending on the exact nature of your external safety you might consider removing it.
Oh yeah, that thing was removed long ago
This video is quite old at this point
My Norinco safety fell off during a MAG dump and it honestly feels just as safe after the fact
7.62×25mm tokarev is criminally underrated its actually one hell of a powerful cartridge. You can call it old times .357 magnum. This thing can surely blow up a charging bear.
Bear won't even get hurt, and you will get eaten
@@Cattleclysmic You can load a 110+ grain hard cast from a Tokarev going 1400+ fps... And will surely mess up a bear. Good sectional density, penetration and energy dump. Plus being low recoil you could double taps all day easy... or can always go with a lighter solid copper lehigh xtreme cavitator bullet going 1700-1900 fps and just nuke the bear.
@@pvtpinecone420 I've seen a brown bear shrug couple of lapua magnum rounds, what the hell are you talking about
@@Cattleclysmic 338 Lapua? No you haven't lol there's no way. Maybe if it was shot in the legs of something. Even a 30-06 can drop a bear no problem.
@@pvtpinecone420 Read Officer Gramin's incident where he landed a unarmored criminal 14 shots with .45 ACP, 7 of these shots were in fatal parts. Criminal kept moving and trying to shoot the officer.
Now do the math, if a human can withstand 14x .45 ACP rounds(7 of which are fatal wounds) and still present danger, then imagine a bear.
MY CZ-52 fires flawlessly.
The Tok is a browning design, ie it uses a linkage. Linkages come in different lengths to change the dwell time of the lock up. and while you are at it get yourself some PPU 7.62x25 HP ammo.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET THAT FRAMED X-RAYED TO CHECK FOR HAIR LINE FRACTURES , THE FRAME MIGHT BE FLEXING FROM THE RECOIL .
A little less conversation and a little more action🎶🎙
th-cam.com/video/SlWSm3xrIXY/w-d-xo.html
Hand load the tokarev ammo and it's hot lol
Accurate no 9 max load tested with a 86 grain bullet 13 grains of powder if I remember correctly is 1900 fps out of the test barrel 7inch test barrel. I have the EAA windicator 357mag snub nose revolver. I also have a tokarev tt33. I load my 357 mag 158 grain hpswc 16 grains of h110 powder it's hot load max load. They both kick and send fireballs. But speed is high in both only difference is the bullet weight. Both rock and roll. The tokarev is a high velocity that's why it went through the water jug hole in hole out. The 357 mag has bigger diameter and the bullet design creates more shock shoot ballistic gel blocks your tokarev will have less of a hydro shock channel while the 357 will have a bigger channel. The tokarev is an over penetrating military round.
I wonder just how well the tokarev penetrates
@@theblindsniper9130 they have test here on TH-cam of tokarev ammo military surplus penetration of level 1 and 2 body armor . Is that good enough? The tokarev is said to not be a good personal concealed carry as it over penetrates though and through as many military rounds do. In and out to make two to three off line to take care of the wounded soldiers.
@9:50 please dont smack the revolver like that... It's going to hurt its feelings and bend the crane.
I'mma backhand this revolver like it owes me money.
@@theblindsniper9130 do it !!!
Ya know they invented a thing a while back he does magic with guns I tell you fixer of sorts they call him smith of the gun.
Yeah issue with that is ill have to replace either the slide or frame. Better off just getting a new Tokarev at that point.
You obviously don't know how a certain ammo round works especially the 7.62 round its a fast bullet and is designed to go through military helments
Smaller, lighter, faster bullets penetrate better than slower, heavier bullets. Especially full metal jacket rounds, as opposed to soft or hollow point.
This is why I tested the 7.62x25 against FMJ 357.
This is the best response I can give here, as I'm unsure what your point here is
You should see some of Mike B's helmet test. Especially the East German M67, and the bulgarian and romanian helmets. Shockingly, Tokarev failed to penetrate!
The tokarev round , the bluet is small and light and that’s why it penetrates better, do you understand that??
Wouldn't it be a better test if you compared standard ball ammo to standard ball ammo? My logic tells me that getting the weights as close as possible throws off the test. Sort of like making a lightweight boxer gain weight, and making a mid-weight boxer lose weight, then throwing them in a ring.
Im just surprised someone watched this old video lmao
Probably been stated but 7.62 tokarov looks like 357 sig compare them!!?
Not a bad idea
@@theblindsniper9130 That would be a first of comparisons.
Standard 125 grain green and white box from Remington would of been a better comparison. That would of gave better representation of the 357.
However, where they are comparable at is the super flat trajectory, and the penetration capabilities.... which you discovered and covered closer to the end of your video...
Factory ammo has been compared already on several other channels. It is why I decided to go this route.
Point blank range is not necessarily short range.
You are doing okay but you need, to put the targets in clear order and consistently, and distinguish between the two rounds, otherwise you doing okay, just organize it again and repeat it over again I like to see the results. Thank you!! 🎉
The Tokarev, 7.62x25 is closer to the .357 sig round.
🇦🇺😎👍Nice
I like how you said it’s pretty much impossible to do a direct comparison between calibers. My favorite way is to just find the highest energy rounds for each one and compare them across a different battery of tests, standard gel testing with heavy clothing, shooting cinder blocks, through car doors into gel, and through armor into gel. For standard rounds like 9mm and .40 etc, the armor testing would only be with liberty civil defense, fort scotts tui, and possibly extreme penetrator or defenders +p or +p+. I know the 10mm extreme penetrator will go through 3a, 6” of gel, and through a cinder block lol. And 9mm fort scotts 90 gr tui, forget if +p or not, went through a 3a and a 2a vest at the same time, demonstrated by Paul Harrel. And the .40 civil defense went at least through 6” of gel through a 3a vest. I do not believe 9mm extreme defender or penetrator, even the 90 gr +p+ or 68 gr +p will go through 3a armor, but I could be wrong. It does go through 2a though.
There are several different factors for testing rounds, such as armor penetration, barrier blindness, penetration or explosive wound cavity balancing, etc. For example, for bears, you want complete penetration with a hardcast round, for humans you want some type of good hollowpoint thats barrier blind and expands but still penetrates 12-18” of gel. Or a tumbling round or monolithic solid like extreme defender. I pretty much just edc a combination of .40 with 135 gr Underwood noslers (those and the 155 gr xtp’s have up to 675 ft lbs of energy out of a 4.9” barrel, much more energy than most factory 10mm, and more energy than ANY .357 sig I can find), 165 gr and 180 gr hst, and 60 gr civil defense.
The HST is my barrier blind bullet that’s also just an all around performer against unarmored targets. Critical defense is also a great choice in .40, and is way better in .40 than 9mm. It’s just not as easy to find cheap bulk critical defense as HST and the HST should be just about as good, though it has lower energy. The .40 165 gr HST’s are about 467 ft lbs energy, the 180’s are 408, and the critical defense is rated at only 400, but I saw somebody get 507 ft lbs through a chronograph on a glock 22, and the HST Ive never seen over 500. The Underwood 135 gr and 155 gr’s are the most powerful rounds that perform well through heavy clothing and the majority of what Im loaded with, and then one magazine of civil defense for anyone with a vest.
For my 9mm I use critical defense 124 +p, hst 124 standard or +p, civil defense +p, fort scotts tui, and +p+ 90 gr extreme defenders and +p 68 gr extreme defenders.
For .380 I use the extreme defender 68 gr +p and underwood item 152 hollowpoints (out of stock) and then the absolute best for .380 is the new Underwood XTP rounds. They perform better than most 9mm xtp rounds lol.
Very informative.
A very good one as well is the high-tech fleece bullet stop with tissue inserts... Paul Harrell taught me that one.
I have PPU 85gr HP.. Try that.
I heard 7.62x25 is like a Russian .45acp.
You heard wrong
No. Lol
@Stefano Pavone no, I mean the 45 is pretty not exciting as the tok is a very versatile round.
No, the weapon that fires it is comparable but not the round!
Poor man’s 5.7
Most off the shelf .30/06, deer rammo at 150 grains are much more effective than "ball", "surplus" ammo. .Military ammo is typically ,NOT hot ammo. Some rounds, like NATO 124 gr 9mm that's pretty hot or linked Ammo meant for belt fed machine guns,can be the exception.
I own many toys to shoot but the .357 has to be my favorite round to handload n shoot...........be well n KAG.
I was so interested before I started hearing you talk. Less talking more shooting
Youre not the first to feel that way.
I actually have a video specifically for people with that opinion, exactly what youre looking for
th-cam.com/video/SlWSm3xrIXY/w-d-xo.html
Though this one here is also a great option
th-cam.com/video/cthJnDbzq5I/w-d-xo.html
Replace the firing pin & rollers with hardened items from Harrington Products.
😅😂🤣
Hmmm.....always thought "ball" was the type of powder ..you know, like stick, ball, flake, flask, primer, etc etc....many diff powders....
But your test sounds fair enough to me
There is a ball type of powder, but the projectile itself, mostly referring to FML round nose bullets like a 45 or any military loadings, is also called 'ball'
closer to .32 magnum
4:34 that's a bullfrog not a peacock
Sucks that your tokky is cursed. My recently acquired '56 ttc has been nothing but reliable. If i would've gotten one like that for my first tokky I'd probably never have bought one again
Have you oiled it good
Bent slide
Too much talking. Not enough editing. Good intentions though.
th-cam.com/video/SlWSm3xrIXY/w-d-xo.html
It's comparable to 357 sig. Not 357 Magnum
How about you actually clean the Tokarev and then bring it back for a legit field test. Cleaning it isn't a wipe down... ...it's a field strip and then if it is still a safety risk... GET RID OF IT BRO. But thanks for sharing the video with us man. I knew the 7.62 x 25 wasn't the power of a .357 but IT IS SERIOUSLY Close. What are your thoughts on Mosin Negant "Arc Angel" stock?
Ok I have a polish tt33. My gun would stick and jam like that.... I fixed it years ago.. put it in a bucket of simple green... let it eat the old cosmo out .. then take mothers aluminum polish and pack it in the ways. Bare frame and slide only of course.. and work the slide till it’s smooth. And clean the shit out of it.... when you assemble. Use a small amount of lithium grease. She will cycle sweet.. I have some videos when I first built it on my channel. Pardon the video quality lmao
I'll give it a try, though it is already cleaned out and thuroughly lubed up. I've worked it smooth though when I fire, it gets rough again.
@@theblindsniper9130 chances are it’s not smooth and the power forces it past.. but hangs up on return... wish I could look at it.. I’ve built them for all my buddies.. it’s kind of a tt33 cult around here 😂🇺🇸
@@hondaxl250k0 Hahaha that is awesome man. I imagine someone who knows more about these guns than I do could figure it out.
@@theblindsniper9130 are you anywhere near Ohio?
North Florida, so no I am not
Oh, handloads? Not a valid test. Off shelf cheap 356 mag vs basic token ammo is valid.....this is not
I think you're missing the point if what I was trying to do here. Get the projectiles of the cartridges to be as close as possible to the same specs, and see the difference.
Though I like the idea of doing factory loads too. I'll give it a test.
Its dirty or bent
Bent
You talk too much and work too little
th-cam.com/video/SlWSm3xrIXY/w-d-xo.html
357 Sig maybe but not 357 magnum .
Dude I dont know why your Tok is so poorly functioning ? My Chinese Tok is as smooth as butter with loading and function yours is a accident waiting to happen . I would get it functioning properly or shelve it . I appreciate your support of the firearm world but a little less on the obvious via your commentary would go along way in people wanting to follow your reviews .
Yeah it has been shelved until I figure out whats going on.
And as far as commentary, theres tons and tons of videos on this platform with way less talking. Thousands of other channels that just blend together in similarities.
I wont be part of that. If you come to my channel, you get my input.
Bring it on . Talk to much.
th-cam.com/video/SlWSm3xrIXY/w-d-xo.html
We're can I get ammo for this bro
I recommend checking out ammoseek
@@theblindsniper9130 thank you 🙏
Please anyone tell me is tokarev tt-33 pistols are available in America
Yes they are
@@theblindsniper9130 Russian or Chinese
@@rizwanrasheed5189 both
@@theblindsniper9130 thanks for your reply dear
@@theblindsniper9130 brand new or old
You're wrong about that..
Wrong about what?
I hate being the know it all gun guy considering I make gun barrels for a living. I deal with that constantly. The 7.62x25 in Sellier & Bellot is more powerful than 357 magnum.
@@amc8118 The beautiful thing about ammo is that there are so many different kinds. Not all 357 and 7.62 Tok is made the same.
Just as there is some 8mm mauser ammo out there that is hotter than 30-06
That's true! Try Sellier & Bellot in 7.62x25 and then come back with your results. I have something coming out next year you maybe very interested in that has to do with 7.62x25.
@@amc8118 Oh, now I'm excited haha
tt 👎
The tokarev round , the bluet is small and light and that’s why it penetrates better, do you understand that??
You are doing okay but you need, to put the targets in clear order and consistently, and distinguish between the two rounds, otherwise you doing okay, just organize it again and repeat it over again I like to see the results. Thank you!! 🎉