Why Volkswagen Is Betting On Electric Vehicles
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- Every year, Volkswagen Group is a top contender for the title of the world's largest automaker. The company sell cars, commercial vehicles and even motorcycles. It operates 133 manufacturing plants around the world and sells cars in 153 countries. The company is now trying to forge a new future for itself by going electric.
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Why Volkswagen Is Betting On Electric Vehicles
You can't get caught for illegal emissions if you have no emissions. 🤔
battery scam next....these german don't be trust worthy at all.... i stop buying german car a few years ago... they become POS since everything they made had very short life....
@@campkira sucks you couldnt take.car of it
campkira - the *Japanese* and *Koreans* have mastered durability and quality-at-scale. They engineer and build some superb machines.
This scam is based on a crooked congress trying to outlaw diesel as a technology because they are bribed by the oil lobby, know that US diesel fuel is dirtier than European diesel fuel and REFUSE to regulate the oil industry to make it cleaner. It's not the car makers fault it is Congress. It most certainly is a scam and one of the main reasons is you can make the fuel yourself from waste vegetable oil.
sure they where not the only one fudging results, they just got caught
They weren't cheating fuel economy numbers, it was tailpipe emissions.
Either do your homework, or leave it to the experts...
This whole time I was eye rolling as a car enthusiast
It's the same argument, they were cheating emissions to get higher fuel economy.
8:11. I immediately went huh ? And scrolled down to see if anyone else caught that
@@strtngfrsh absolutely not
@@thunderb00m yes, NOX was being released because of the higher temps but also helped increase fuel economy, and you're basically releasing more harmful gases than you advertise
This is wrong, the scandal wasn't about fuel economy. During tests it would have clean emissions; on the road it would have bad emissions.
Jeremy Melvin yep, higher efficiency higher emissions. The irony is that gas emissions are now greater due to direct injection in most gas cars.
Jeremy Melvin thats because it was rigged
Actually, VW was recently found cheating on their fuel economy figures for unleaded vehicles... www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-30/vw-to-restate-mileage-labels-on-98-000-gas-powered-cars-in-u-s
Jeremy, diesels can run extremely efficiently in the 'lean mixture mode', where there is a very small amount of fuel being injected into the air.
However with excess air, part of the unburned oxygen in the air gets recombined with the nitrogen to form polluting NOx.
That's why there are exhaust gas recirculation systems, etc (to put air with less oxygen back into the combustion chamber to emit less NOx), but these all reduce engine efficiency.
Here's why you really do get worse (NOx) emissions with better fuel economy (without exhaust after-treatment). On the other hand, diesel cars emit about 20% less CO2 and nowadays also much less particulate matter than gasoline powered cars (until gasoline cars also get compulsory particulate matter filters that diesels have been having for years).
well, its an ad after all. Stuff like this should be mass reported
It's worth pointing out that Dieselgate was about NOX emissions, not fuel economy as stated in the video. The cars got the advertised fuel economy, which was far superior to gasoline powered cars, but they produced too much nitrogen dioxide, which is highly regulated in the US.
And the nox shifted greatly, the fix caused higher co2
I wouldn’t say Diesel mileage is “far superior” to Gas - the turbocharger is the main component in the reduction of fuel consumption, once you add a turbocharger to a gasoline engine, a Golf for example can still get 50mpg
@@joebloggs6394 I'm afraid you're misinformed, turbos reduce efficiency on specific engine es at the same rpm, there are advantages to them, you can install a smaller engine and work it closer to peek efficiency or in some cases change the final drive ratio to improve fuel economy, more fuel is burned to power the turbo.
KFStreich So could you explain how I get over a thousand km to a tank of fuel, 50L?
@@joebloggs6394 with that much information, nope.
That's pretty darn good for a lori!
What engine do you have? How fast do you drive?
What year is your car?
I looked at an mpg reporting website, it looks like 45mpg may be possible from gas, it says it's a 3 cylinder, but it is outside the norm. Of course 60mpg is possible with the tdi when hypermiling, and it is way outside the norm. If it is a new car gasoline engines and more efficient transmissions contribute to better fuel economy.
Adding a turbo to a naturally aspirated engine by its self does not.
80% of this video is on their history and only 20% is about how they are going electric ???
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Typical CNBC explanation
Sometimes to know where you are going, you need to know where you’ve been
Journalist diff.
like every CNBC video, no objectivity
This is like a high-school report.
A bad one done the night before it's due and with a bunch of salsa dip stains on it... small potato chip grease stains... and a bit missing due to dog bite...
It’s CNBC. Isn’t there still a guy on here that gives financial advice whilst hitting big red buttons and making silly noises?
Probably straight from the lying guardian data bank
CNBS is so lame and rudimentary and need to step it up on reviews
Have a nephew who served a "praktikum" at the German standards & testing organization TüV, as he was completing his bachelor's in automotive engineering in Germany. His "inside" view was illuminating : They were 100% aware of the NOx issue not just with VW, but every manufacturer producing CRD engines. They were ALL gaming the US emissions testing systems. What he learned was that the TüV simply didn't wield enough economic and/or political clout to go toe-to-toe with the builders. Ironically enough, they were also aware that the algorithmic testing procedures used by most US states was actually "creating" a problem. Meanwhile, measured at the tailpipe, even the largest VW diesel engines produce MUCH less NOx concentration than frying up a couple eggs in a Teflon pan. The hard reality -- that numerous consumer products create local NOx concentrations 10x-100x higher than "dirty" diesel engines -- never even entered the hype-driven public dialogue. That said, when VW played the corporate PR denial game and outright lied about the situation, they earned those swats with the economic paddle. Our mutual conclusion : VW was targeted as the "fall guy" in the US, for reasons well above our pay grade.
It was a trust issue. The details of the lies were not as important as the lies themselves. They lied to law makers and they paid the price.
I kind of knew this before, yet thank you for a more insightful description.
Indeed. The whole NOx debate is moot - any gas stove or even a burning candle in a concluded space is exposing us to more NOx than due to diesel emissions (if NOx was so damaging, how come women cooking on gas stoves are are not considerably more prone to various forms of cancers or respiratory diseases).
On the other hand, diesels actually do emit some 20% LESS CO2 than gasoline cars.
th-cam.com/video/GLPVuahuX0Q/w-d-xo.html
@@PeterKese The argument that a candle was worse than NOX emissions on a regular road has been debunked.
The argument went like this:
They measured a certain amount of NOX on a German city road per cubic meter. Then they put a candle in a volume of 1 cubic meter and measured the same amount of NOX and argued the candle was as bad for people inside the room than being on the street.
But this is wrong. It actually means, if you want to have a room with NOX emissions as bad as on the street, then you need one candle PER cubic meter volume in the room, e.g 10 * 10 * 4 = 400 candles in a small room, that burn every damn second of the year 😆
@@JayAr02 Square meter is not measure of "volume" so somewhere in the text, your claims are moot. You can't compare 1 candle per square meter to 1 candle per cubic meter.
Btw, have a look at the actual candle (and gas stove) experiment here th-cam.com/video/GLPVuahuX0Q/w-d-xo.html
This kind of mass production & demand is exactly what we need to make battery technology better so electric vehicles will eventually have much longer ranges.
And ruin the ozone from producing the batteries
Yes, because Disposing used batteries,, Yeah--"That Wont hurt the Enviroment". Smh.
And cheaper.
I think hybrids are better for now. I'd expect more electric km driven that way. If everyone wants to go full EV at once, prices will be prohibitively high for many, resulting in fewer EV kms.
@@moodlampActual Even accounting for the production process, they are still much better for the air quality and ozone than internal combustion engines. This will only improve with better batteries. Research it.
Excellent reporting.
I’m driving my 6th VW Beetle. 2000 GLS.
Others: 05 Turbo, 03 GL, 66, 68, 70.
I just got an ID4. It is awesome. I’m loving the design. Really built well compared to a Tesla.
My fave brand I’m still rolling in tht polo best first car
So many mistakes in this video. The diesel cars met and exceeded their fuel economy ratings, they just exceeded NOx emissions. There’s a huge difference in fuel economy and emissions. They misused these terms several times in this video.
Nice... Love how a startup like Tesla is FORCING big auto companies to go all electric.
Plus, EU emissions regulations and a wave of Chinese electric car startups.
Tesla didn't FORCE anything, the trend would have turned toward electric anyway. Tesla might have accelerated it a little but they certainly didn't force it.
@@strtngfrsh If that's the case, Tesla speeded up the trend by at least 20 years.
I hope they call their electric car division Voltswagon. That would be awesome.
Bravo
ok, not bad.
Wow, but not German enough🤣🤣
A year later, this became an actual april fools joke, it got leaked tho
Diesel gate was not about fuel economy. Diesel gate was about emissions. You actually burn more fuel when your polluting less. This happened when volts wagon dump fuel in the exhaust system to minimize NOX.
The “fixed”cars and those on the dyno testing actually burn more fuel.
CNBC needs some research.
Thanks. Came to say this.
They did say it, maybe you just hear what you want to hear.
@@strtngfrsh Diesel rules is right. At 08.25 cnbc says it is about fuel efficiency and that is not the case. It is about Nox.
Well If they burn more fuel then they will be less efficient
Wow never read this much rubbish. They don't dump fuel in the exhaust, it's called Adblue in combination with a special catalytic converter. Also most cars affected in the dieselgate were not outfitted with such a system, if they were they would have been able to meet the emission regulations.
If there is somebody that needs research it's you darling. Try dumping fuel(not diesel) in the exhaust and see what happens, preferably look right into it while you do it.
Uhmm, every manufacturer has to bet on electric cars because we’re gonna run out of oil sooner or later. It’s the future
I agree that at some point Oil will be more expensive to extract and of less quality, but that fear mongering that we'll run out of oil is BS. They've been wrong for the past 100 years. But I do agree that Oil can only get more expensive to extract.
Hidrogen is better
We are gonna run out some of lithium batteries material components too before oil.
Ettore Fieramosca lithium can be recycled, as of yet oil can’t be unless we can make it from co2
@@aloysiuswilliam5826 yes, hydrogen is indeed better and the most enviromentally friendly
They’re finally betting on electric because Tesla had the balls to pave the way for them.
nope because the government wants it so
Vorname Nachname Both actually.
Tesla and VW both acknowledge the role of climate change.
Robert Blackford true but nobody was clamoring about a Leaf.
The Porsche family is so wealthy it’s not even funny. Most people know that VW bought the Porsche automobile company but few know that the Porsche family themselves actually owns the majority and controlling shares of Volkswagen Auto Group. This puts them in control of VW and all the companies owned by VW. Ever since Ferdinand Porsche was asked to design the original Type 1 (Beetle) by Adolf Hitler, the family has been involved with VW. Ferdinand Porsche’s son-in-law, Anton Piëch, took control over VW in the early 1940’s. Years later in 1993, Ferdinand Piëch, who was the grandson of Ferdinand Porsche and son of Anton Piëch, left his position as the head of Audi to become the chairman and CEO of the Volkswagen Auto Group where he remained until his resignation in 2015. He passed away just a few weeks ago. The Porsche family which owns the holding company Porsche SE, currently owns 31% of the subscribed capital of Volkswagen AG, and 53.1% of the voting rights in the company. Another 15% of the subscribed capital is owned by Private Shareholders which I wouldn’t be surprised to find out includes members of the Porsche family. Overall Volkswagen Auto Group owns the Porsche automobile company along with several other auto manufacturers but the Porsche family owns the majority of the Volkswagen Auto Group. This is a list of just the automotive manufacturers owned by the Volkswagen Auto Group.
Audi
Ducati
Bentley
Bugatti
Lamborghini
MAN
Porsche
Scania
SEAT
ŠKODA
TRATON
Volkswagen
Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles
Volkswagen Marine
Porsche doesn't even design Type 1, he just give "lifting" a V570 Tatra.....
Mateusz Zimon The Tatra V570 itself isn’t the first design, it has a strong resemblance to automotive sketches by Hungarian engineer Bela Barenyi, whose works date as early as the late 1920’s and were published in 1934.
Thank you for this. These CNBC vids seem like some formulaic output required by someone in the NBC social media headquarters to "increase SEO and traffic"... only a few facts, and a few incorrect "facts" and missing info. There's no wonder no one at CNBC would attach their name as "author" or producer. car guys know all the deets! keep it up.
And any time you'd like to write a guest Car-guy post, let me know. I'm working on the site.
I have always purchased VW vehicles for 23 yrs. And have been happy with them. The big 3 are to greedy & cheep to make a good sedan. I could care less about diesel gate. I want a good car at a fair price. I get that with VW.
that vw bus idea is pretty rad. i'd buy one.
VW should bring skoda and seat to us to provide cheap cars to rival Kia and Mitsubishi
@@Lvlaple4Ever you clearly no nothing about Skoda or Seat😂
Vw has been cheapening VW products in the US I wish they would keep VW premium, and sell something else at a lower price
msmith2654 since when is Kia cheap?
@@Nycholas1998 VW is not a premium brand. Audi is
VW are not the only company cheating on fuel results, also Porsche did not design the type one it was a German Jewish engineer.
4 years owning Tesla only. Just mind bending car. Once you own it there is no coming back to ICE.
That goes for EV's in general. Not just Tesla's!
Volkswagen doesn't need the American market, they sell millions of cars in China, Latinamerica, Europe, etc, for Volkswagen, the US market is a matter of pride, a challenge.
Are you stupid? Volkswagen sells like butter in the USA..maybe less now but still...in the other hand...Mercedes has its eyes on China
@@bojidarmartinov5949 Before insulting someone, do a quick Google search. Shows less than 5% VW sales in USA.
(edit: for 2018)
Audi is quite popular in the USA
@@bojidarmartinov5949 Lol... You didn't watch the video, didn't you? China is the biggest market for Volkswagen... A stupid talking about stupid... 😂
@@elhijodelsol5064 China is the biggest market to almost every European car maker..what does that change?
Since Volkswagen discontinued the Beetle in July 2019 they should revive the Volkswagen Beetle as an electric economy car in 2020 for the 2021 model year.
Oil industry doesn’t want you to buy any electric vehicle. So they’ll do anything in order to prevent it, like that guy at the end of the video who works for them.
I dont want an electric car because theyre trash
Fossil fuels are used to make batteries and are terrible for the environment, lithium is bad for the air we breathe and our soil, also battery production creates problems such as, rare earth mining and recycling battery waste. So batteries aren’t even close to being remotely “green”
Sam you’re maybe right. The battery’s and it’s production can cause the pollution as well. Well i have a VW Golf GTE and i charge it with the solar panels. Somehow i feel that contribute to a cleaner environment. Well when the battery becomes unusable it will of course be difficult to recycle it At the end we don’t really have a clean technology in commercial use. I heave seen a car prototype that runs on water but the Elite won’t allow this technology to come into production.
There is pretty much nothing oil industry can do about it, the trends are pretty clear. Electric cars are going though a classic technology adaption curve.
ferkemall i have 16 solar panels on the roof of my house and that’s enough to charge my car.
Is it because they can't have an emissions scandal with electric cars?
Well maybe if California didn't have unrealistic emissions standards they would of been fine? 60mpg car by 2025 when most still only do 30 top's unless it's a hybird which tend be lighter and more dangerous to drive is questionable all in the name of climate change. BTW car emissions only make up 13% of the United States emissions a better bet would be turn every coal plant to natural gas I heard the Texas cowboys and North Dakota rancher's have so much they burn it and yet on night time view of the U.S. the shale fields lights are giving off more light than places like Chicago or New York city. 1 coal plant replaced with a natural gas plant reduces emissions by 50% it's that much cleaner. But yes it is unfair that they advertise we have low emissions yet they been fudging the numbers for years to compete with American and Asia car companies, perhaps tho American's emissions standards are just a little to unrealistic.
Joshua Hibbs Thats why you go electric dummy
@@joshuahibbs4639 keep in mind it was NOx emissions they were cheating on, which isn't a huge impact to climate change but it does cause respiratory issues and contributes to acid rain. They could have achieved the regulations using a urea-injection system or by sacrificing fuel economy and power. They decided to take a shortcut by cheating and just telling customers they could have a clean, cheap, efficient diesel when the company knew it was a lie. I don't blame the regulators; if VW couldn't actually make it work then they should have focused on gas or hybrids or electrics.
@@joshuahibbs4639 Agreed that natural gas and other renewable energy sources will greatly reduce greenhouse gas emissions. I saw that greenhouse gas emissions by sector (2017) were 29% transportation (of course this is more than just cars), 28% electricity, 22% industry, 12% commercial & residential and 9% agriculture.
The emission scandal itself was ridiculously over blown. Yes the diesel cars put out 40x more NOX but this was a very small amount when you consider 99% of NOX was being removed.
I'm a VW guy for life, but until price parity of electric vs ICE becomes reality, I'm sticking with the gas models. I will never pay $40-$50K for a car when I can buy something like a Passat for half that. What people don't get is that upkeep on a gas car is about $2500 a year on average (fuel, oil, maintenance, and repairs) but when an EV costs $20,000 more, you're looking at 8 years to reach that break-even point.
Because oil is running out and to fill your car with electricity cost 10 bucks
If oil was running out the price would be sky high
you dont have to wait 30+ minutes to also fill up your car.
@Green Mills The cost argument also has to consider the cost of the battery pack, electronics, and more costly repairs when they do inevitably age. The new car under warranty is great. If you are the post warranty guy buying the battery pack for 10G how much did you really save. EV's are great but they are not yet the economic choice for the consumer.
Tesla Model 3 is the number one selling car in the Netherlands. Not number one electric, no, number one car....
Well taxes supplement..
But where is customer proffits?
They also have no oil or other natural deposits. Plus the country is tiny. So the range is adequate. That's why the Tesla is liked for really short commutes. But here in the us. It's a fancy toy. Or a good but very expensive city car.
No small wonder in a country were petrol and combustion engine vehicles are taxed into oblivion (1.8€/liter) and electric vehicles are subsidised and tax deducted. All this green techology can only exist with the support of taxpayers money, Tesla never ever made profit in their existance. That's why the green industry needs a hysterical Greta.
Tesla staat op de 17 plaats met auto verkopen 2019
How are Europeans more sceptic about electrification? Look at countries like Norway where far more than half of the new cars sold are electric. You'll start seeing much more of this in the next few years around Europe whereas the US (with perhaps the exception of California) will have to deal with Detroit lobbyists...
Norway's a very unique situation, the government decided to heavily incentivise EVs (no 25% VAT, no toll charges, free parking, etc.) so it's not exactly a normal market.
Norway is not a good example. Government subsidizes the sale of EVs.
@@lukerinderknecht2982 this is quite normal in a lot of western European countries. Not to the extreme proportions as Norway but it's definitely there. Why? Because most European countries want to comply with severely reducing carbon emissions in accordance to the Paris agreement. I feel lucky that my country's government along with many others do think climate change is a real issue and something that needs to be invested in unlike the current resident of the white house.
@@valentinasrudys6919 many governments especially in Europe do this...
@@lukerinderknecht2982 Holland, Switzerland, California - biggest selling vehicles are EVs.
Electric cars sales are growing by the day, I think Volkswagen betting on electric is about the smartest thing they can do right now ! In fact, all vehicle manufacturers should consider producing more electric vehicles.
Im so glad everyone who watched this can see CNBC went easy on VW here. I wonder how many brown paper envelops were pushed under the table for that
If they can make cool EVs like Tesla, they shouldn't have a problem. Idk how Tesla got the reputation of being cool, but every manufacturer needs to follow
Almost all automakers are investing in EVs, and the reason is simple: Electric primary propulsion is here to stay. It's now cheaper and simpler to build an electric powertrain than it is to build a gasoline one. the only problem is still with the energy storage.
The title irritates me, it’s like they’re saying VW is the only one “betting” on electric cars. What about GM, Tesla, Jaguar, Mercedes, Ford, or Nissan? Also, it’s not a “bet,” it’s a very clear market trend. It’s like saying “here’s why VW, the car company, is following the trends in the car market.” ITS BECAUSE THEYRE A CAR COMPANY
The software made the vw diesels emissions compliant when tested, not fuel economy compliant. Unfixed diesels have better fuel economy and performance, with a fraction of a percent more nox emissions
Fuel based vehicles are overall less efficient when you consider the transportation infrastructure needed to supply the fuel. Need to add logistics of trucks/ships transporting fuel to stations, then you drive to those stations. If EV vehicles are more widespread/improved, you could plug in from home, using any standard electric source.
@atxformfactor Kudos to your troll game. Bring up religion out of no where, and ignoring anything in my comment.
@@emmakai2243 Of course EVs are more efficient. The question is how much. If EVs are 20% more efficient overall and car emissions represent 10% of total CO2 emissions, then we're on the path of paying 10 trillion dollars (worldwide) to replace classic cars with EVs for cummulative 2% lower total CO2 emissions.
And before we achieve that, the world's CO2 emissions will raise by 25% anyways. Last year, CO2 emissions grew by 1.6% btw.
EVs are an answer to nothing buy the global narcissism of human race.
@@PeterKese Dude, chill...why so angry? Nothing is inherently wrong or narcissistic with moving to a new tech. You work for old school car company, or losing your job or something? Combustion engine vehicles aren't going anywhere soon (I'm thinking generations). Infrastructure and culture makes it very difficult, but long term, again generations, think it's good for everyone. Can you cite your sources?
Our 2017 WOLFSBURG Golf is a Fantastic Car!!!
If it is an 100% electric car for sure. If not, you are polluting the environment every meter you are driving.
Any fossil fuel powered car is "eating" the oxygen in the air we need to breath.
@@eDriver Just like Electric Cars in production and if they don't use 100% renewable energy...
And what do you mean with eating the oxygen?! They produce CO2 not exterminate O2?
Everything that’s new has massive infrastructure challenges. Including the first automobile.
The only major infrastructure needed for electric vehicles is electricity. Electricity is already in literally billions more places than fossil fuel stations.
I love VW! Biggest auto manufacture in the world !
I love my old Passat TDI (2005) and I'll love my VW electric,,If I ever get one. They make good stuff.
Do they have an option not too?
4:00 thats where i live. Wolfsburg
Maxiking stay there!
Simply hard to believe why...or how ANYONE would buy any VW product. Values of honesty and integrity have simply gone down the sewer in today's world, but yet supported by those with the same lack.
I love VW. Their sales are around 300k to 400k in the US and stable. They have always been a niche market here and I think they are fully aware of that. There is nothing inherently wrong with that and can be a part of a good business plan so long as you are profitable, which I imagine they are.
Volkswagen needs to bring Amarok here. And give us the VR6 back in the GOLF
Maveric073 why would they do that if they took away the Toeurag and the Golf?
I want the Polo. :-)
Driving any car with electric motor is so much fun.
Extreme acceleration, which can never be done with internal combustion engine and no vibration and no noise.
I was a huge fan of that ICE before. But once I experienced the soundless driving, I never like to miss it anymore.
eDrive stop lying to yourself you were never an ICE fan. Also batteries are made by toxic mineral such as lithium and batteries are made by fossil fuels idiot
And a Euro Passat Wagon that is no longer available here.
I wonder where those 3.4 billion dollar fined did go
More US bombs.
@@LivingLifeSlower ]
@Bughatii Lovren Perhaps the Orange Catastrophe finally is a billionaire?
Bughatii Lovren a chunk of it was invested in electric chargers.
Im all for an electric Beatle
Electric driving is so much fun. Once you experienced that, you will never like to miss it.
To all that are talking about dieselgate, now how many other companies where doing the same thing. Many companies did this.
Yes but they never admitted it. They noted the variances between testing results and actual results but never explained them hence the small fines. VW should have just stopped selling diesel in America and not admitted anything. Mercedes had higher emissions but they never admitted it was due to a cheat device so got off scot free. VW were very stupid to admit it and get fined over 40 Billion.
The new electric ID 3 looks great! Wish they would sell them in the U.S.
Wtf dude, this car is soo ugly in my opinion, his interior so cheap. And for a price.... 🤮🤮
@@Victor_Gvne in the newer models interior has been wildly facelifted and is really good quality, its also extremely comfortable. I agree with you on the exterior, but the interior is really good. I would go for the id4 tho, more space.
@@johanschrder8445 wich newer interior ? This car has less than a year,
@@Victor_Gvne not so much newer just different specs to choose from, which are mostly made of better materials plus new center console which adds a lot
THE "ELECTRIC REVOLUTION", IS A MOVEMENT VW HAS TO MAKE! AN OPPORTUNITY THEY HAVE TO OPEN...
The "electric Revolution" is a myth and farce, at least in the US. We still burn coal to power electric companies. How moronic and backwards and non-environmentally friendly is that. In the US roughly 30% of our electric power comes from burning coal. Yet American fans of electric vehicles turn a blind eye; they must pretend that "their" electricity comes from the other 70% of power companies. We could look at the massive countries of China and India, who get 65%-75% of the electric power from burning coal.. (and they are 10 times the size of the US), but why bother: we are all burning black fossil BS and convince ourselves electricity is clean somehow. moronic. "clean" diesel would probably be more green if there were such a thing. That's a farce for another day. Read, people. just read. don't believe what car companies and oil companies and coal companies want you to. - Nelson. car guy. athens, GA
Nelson Wells - Twins Time you do realize that it’s going to take sometime for us to get off of fossil fuels right? We’re talking about changing the types of cars we drive, where we get the energy to power our homes and businesses. This is a massive undertaking and will take some time to accomplish. Even if it’s a small step forward, it’s still progress that must be acknowledged. So it’s not really a electric revolution but more an evolutionary one.
This "Electric Revolution" of yours has been going on since the first electric car model was created in 1834 by Sibrandus Stratingh.
"The Revolution" hasn't had any success for over 185 years, but this time it will work, r-right guys? Right?
You do realize that Stratingh's model was a proof concept right? Meaning it was to demonstrate that they could harness the newly found concept of electricity and use it to power transport. However, the technology to make it viable was still in its infancy and the infrastructure needed to support it wasn't viable. The first electric didn't emerge until Gustave's tricycle in 1881and by then the infrastructure was barley good enough to support only a few trains let alone multiple cars utilizing the same grid system for power. By this time, Karl Benz motorcars had the benefit of using the existing infrastructure to power his invention. Refineries had been around since 512 and had the benefit of over 1400 years head start over electric grid system. All it took was a minor change in processing oil to get the fuel needed to power Benz' invention vs starting from scratch with the electric automobile for people to make a ton of money. Humans will usually take the past of least resistance to achieve a goal so the rest is history. However, since the advent of the computer, the landscape has changed dramatically and now electric cars and the infrastructure are catching up quickly. So its just just a matter of time, I mean you do understand the concept of progress and context RIGHT? RIGHT?!
@@samuelmitchell5937
Work on your reading comprehension. I clearly stated that it was a car model.
With that out of the way, let's dissect your excuses.
>B-but refineries for over a 1000 years!
The process and chemicals used are a lot different. That is why cars run on diesel oil, not butter.
>B-but greedy "humans" and infrastructure
Were there petrol stations in the 1890s? On that note- were there electric charging stations in the 1890s? No, but electric cars were still produced en masse. Yet diesel cars overtook them. People didn't need a vehicle that should "rest" as often as a horse and were even slower. Who would have thought?
>Hurr durr it's different this time, the cars are better and are catching up quickly!
Really now? So why does a car, which is "better" need thousands of subsidies? Take Norway for example where the government spends billions (you read that right) in order to incentivise citizens to use EVs. They practically pay half the price of the car (includes import duties), they let EV owners park (almost) wherever they want and for free at that. Not to mention they let them drive on the bus lanes. At this point, EV drivers have more rights than the ambulance. And still- those buying EVs are actually buying them mostly as a second car and use it because of the free parking. I don't remember diesel cars needing such an incentive. In fact- they had to be pulled by a horse, whenever they entered London since the locals were afraid of the engine, but that was a long time ago. I might consider buying an EV when they actually start making them useful and don't try to push them in my face.
About the last part of your tantrum, which you disguised as a question- yes, I do believe in progress, that is why I wouldn't buy an EV at this point. You have to understand one basic concept- just because something is newer, that does not make it better.
My VW Passat TDI 2015 do 45-50 mpg , no batteries 🔋 needed and plenty of torque, I love it, but related to environment we need to go electric, but my question is , US government why they don’t push that technology? We when supposedly to the moon and a lot advance in technology and we are stuck in combustion engines since the 1900’s
I don’t think they don’t want to loose tax in oil(gas-Diesel).
I saw a lot of dirty trucks on highway amazingly polluters, I believe they polluted equal to a 100’s vw .
Anyway US government already know how to get a tax from the electric car, I don’t know how but they are not going to loose money, remember we need to support all 100 plus military bases around the world 😬.
Once you drove an electric car for some days, you will lough about the small torque of your Diesel car.
No vibration, no noise and much much more power. Also you driving way more cheap than with any internal combustion car.
I'm an American living in Germany and little by little I'm seeing more and more EVs around. I've seen the Twizy & Zoe from Renault & Tesla Model 3 are slowly catching on.
What's the range of EVs when driven 200 km/h on the highways?
I think this is the reason that EVs won't be as popular in Germany as they are elsewhere (unless their car industry lobbies for change of highway regulation which is unlikely).
Came here to see the comments because I know the customer is always right 😁
You lost me at 1:00 with "infrastructural challenges" ... so how much of the USA has no power outlet in the garage or a fast/quick charger nearby? EVs don't need as many charging stations as gas cars need gas stations. And the infrastructure? It's already built out in most of the civilized world, you just have to connect more chargers to it.
But u know "infrastructural challenges" also means grid and source of electricity....
It isn't simple just plug more chargers
These people get paid by oil companies to trash electric cars.
@@mateuszzimon8216 The grid in most of the civilized world is ready for all cars to go electric. For those who don't understand how it works, most EVs charge at night, when power demand is low, so you don't need additional power generation capacity.
@@Poxenium Where?? It's impossible to be ready for all cars go electric, maybe Monaco. But even Japan isn't ready for going full EV
@@mateuszzimon8216 Did you read my argument? And that's without even mentioning V2G, which is slightly more costly to implement, but fixes any grid problem.
5:13 - that's my local VW dealership! :)
I'm really disappointed CNBC! Get you facts straight. It was an EMISSIONS issue, not a MILLAGE issue.
They got BETTER millage when on the street but WORSE emissions cuz you get more NOx gasses (toxic gasses) coming out when you have a hotter combustion. To cool the combustion you add a bit more fuel than you need to reduce temps and hence emissions. But also you lose a bit of power in the process.
VW didn't cheat their customers needs, only some of their values and the environment. People were getting 1000km to a 55L tank...
Remember that "Diesel scandal" well my 2015 golf TDI was doing 40-45mpg in the city! 13 gallon diesel tank would last for almost 600 miles. Fuel efficiency isn't economically viable for big oil, therefore artificial scandal
The vw TDI has a cult following for a reason before the scandal. Epic economy, longevity , and fun power down low from torque.
If I was going to Uber....TDI for the win.
And yet GM with the broke ignition lock got a small smack on the hand.
Dennis Snider exactly it’s unreal how GM got a small smack on the hand, their error caused deaths. meanwhile volkswagen felt the full wrath of the government just cause they lied about how clean their cars were.
it was an emissions scandal not false fuel efficiency numbers
@@CountryCarReviews and the repair was a stupid plastic clip they stuck in your key to make the key ring hole smaller. Wasted my time taking my Pontiac in for the "recall"
people are not against electric, they are against their high prices. electric cars need to be cheaper to reach wide adoption.
Which would mean selling at a loss, and what sane car company wants to do that?
@@sailor7537 No loss. Better technology or gov subsidies
We need to understand that these are incredibly advanced vehicles: the technology behind an EV is amazing, and that comes at a cost. I don’t think they will ever be all that cheap, but they make up for it in operating cost. My EV charge costs three pennies per mile.
They're betting right if they're betting on electric infrastructure. Even if they fail gaining market penetration with the cars, they will have the dollars of recharging the vehicles that will stop by the stations.
My father got me a used VW Fastback in 1972 to get me to my summer job. I got hooked on the feel of a VW with a manual transmission and have been driving them since. We currently have a 92 Corrado, 2006 GTI, 2015 Sportwagen TDI, and 2017 Alltrack. We had a 2009 Jetta Sportwagen TDI with 140K miles that we sold back to VW for a good price so we view the scandal positively. The 2015 Sportwagen TDI is scary good. It was the cheapest new car I have ever bought (accounting for inflation), has a 100K warranty, averages 48mpg for daily driving, averages 55mpg when cruising 75mph, and gets over 600 miles on a 13.5 tank before requiring a fill up. There is no chance I am going to buy an electric VW until all the Golfs, GTIs, and Sportwagens with manual transmissions disappear, or gas/diesel is no longer affordable.
I still think VW was brilliant how it was able to get away with it for so long. Love my VW.
Me a lifelong fan of the brand
electric vehicles do not have any emissions to fine - smart move volkswagen!
I don't have a particular bias against EV but unlike many I am a realist and conservative with it comes to transportation. Those who think that EV is going to grow to 50% of USA market in the next ten years? Little chance of that. EV has huge obstacles even if the public wants to buy one. Why? easy, if you don't own a house where are you going to put your charging station? BAMM! the whole EV argument crashes because the logistics of having EV charging at an apartment building where the majority of renters don't have dedicated parking spaces???? come on folks....this is a huge hurdle to overcome. And let us not forget that statistically in many states every adult who lives in that apartment drives a car so now you're gonna need two or more charging stations. How many times you lived in a place where you could install a charging station right beside every car you park? To install a 220v charging station in every parking spot at an apartment complex? ...it will cost $3k per renter I bet because just the hardware cost $1500 ..who's gonna pay to break concrete, run underground elec. lines 220v?. Who's gonna pay? The renter can't because the renter may move...do they get to uninstall the charging station and take it with them? of course not so then the apartment complex must pay. If you owned an apartment complex and wanted to install charging stations at every renter space for a 200 unit complex then that's 400 x 40 amp additional elec. service onto the property so that everyone can recharge their cars overnight! The utility company will have to provide more elect capacity. Good luck with this 'real life conundrum'?
The other big hurdle is convenience. Your gas gar runs low on gas or diesel and you pull into a store or pump and you're refueled and on your way in less than 8 minutes for another 300 miles of driving. Even with the fastest chargers on EV you're going to waiting >30 minutes to fully recharged. That's a big convenience shift for Americans. When you want to load the kids and drive to granma's farm you'll have to take along your 120 volt extension cord portable kit and charge your car for 9 hours overnight just to fully recharge the EV. There are other issues but i've made my point.
I'm glad to see more realistic and level-headed people come to the forefront to help 'bring some balance' to the out-of-control EV fans and their delusions of grandeur. Many of your points I also espouse at my quarterly EV seminars I give in my region. After I give them all the facts, I usually fine-line it by saying....EV's just aren't "there yet" for the vast majority of consumers. And that won't change anytime soon until the EV carmakers address the "Trio of Troubles" - high price, very slow recharge times and limited range. There simply won't be any 'EV Revolution' until electric cars match the practicality and convenience of today's ICEV's, PERIOD!! And EV fanatics hate to hear that or admit it.
hydrogen is the only right variant for future. No other variant ! But we are developing approach, which is not exact now. There must be 2 waves for hydrogen : 1/BUILD HYDROGEN PRODUCTION FACTORIES ON SITES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY STATIONS. 2/ SMALL CARS NEED TO LOAD HYDROGEN BY EXCHANGE WHOLE COMPRESSED HYDROGEN BALLOONS.
We are wrong because we do not firstly build enough hydrogen production factories on sites of renewable energy stations. We are wrong because we are trying to build network of hydrogen loading stations, which are COMPLEX AND EXPENSIVE.
We must change our approach. We should use hydrogen as energy storage method for renewable energy stations first. Then we should load hydrogen for usual cars by exchanging whole standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. So It is very simple and not expensive to make the global net of hydrogen supplying stations. Any normal mini shops can be a hydrogen supplying point by storing standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. We do not have to use liquid hydrogen, which is difficult to collect. But we can use compressed hydrogen gas, which is not so much different in weight by comparison with liquid hydrogen. Hydrogen is the best solution of energy storage for all energy stations now, for example, for nuclear energy stations, for renewable energy stations. Just install ready hydrogen production modules, and install independent hydrogen fuel cell modules in adjacent areas. Use compressed hydrogen gas at first time instead of liquid hydrogen.
And the last thing to notice is that, hydrogen is not more dangerous than other gases and petrol. Hydrogen has big energy storage capacity, but when burning hydrogen in accidents, IT DOES NOT CREATE ACOUSTIC DESTRUCTING WAVE TO ENVIRONMENTS. It means that hydrogen burning is less destructive than gasoline burning.
doesnt matter i love vw i will continue to love ve
Electric-Gate: Volkswagen computer turns up efficiency of battery electric motor when it's being tested, but actual MPGe is lower to improve performance.
The Diesel scandal might've been the ignition spark, but the simple fact is that car companies in Europe are obliged to rech an overall maximum level of CO² emissions, without having to pay penalties. All car manufacturers in Europe are trying to clean up their carbon footprint to avoid billions of Euros in emission fees
Everyone that I have talked to that have a Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic told me that they would gladly pay 25% more for an electrically powered car that has HALF the range of the cars they drive now, but only 10% said they would pay 50% more. So basically the truth is that once electric cars come down in price, they will sell like crazy, totally replacing all of the gasoline-powered cars that we have right now, it's just that the price premium on electric cars is too high and few people outside of the top 10% of the population have the income to be able to afford them.
10 years in prison for that? How about Boeing's CEO, lifetime imprisonment?
First off, Boeing CEO didn't do anything to intentionally deceive. They thought they were fixing a problem and just didn't tell anyone about the software, which, they should have. VW intentionally installed this software to cheat emissions testing. They intended to do wrong. Emissions and pollution is a big deal. It harms everyone and everything. Boeing CEO should definitely be punished but life? Really? Harsh.
@@saxopio6280 Tell that to the victims of both plain crashes. VW's CEO caused unnecessary pollution Boeing's CEO killed people instantly on two separate occasions but he it wasn't intended so jail time would be to harsh.
strtngfrsh - I’m sorry, but point to where I said “any” jail time would be too harsh for Boeing top execs? BTW, we’re not just talking about a couple hundred vehicles. We’re talking 11 millions autos emitting dangerous pollutants for over a decade. Sorry if you think such intentional fraud and grand deception that has surely resulted in deadly illnesses is no big deal.
All that said, if criminal charges are at some point filed against Boeing execs in the US or any other country, then so be it, they get what they deserve.
@@saxopio6280 Ok it wasn't intentional on boeing's part, even so, it's clearly corporate greed that took those around 300 innocent lives. They had known max 8 wasn't aerodynamically stable, yet they pushed through, just sealing the gap with the so called MCAS software. Because of the loss of so many lives, the ceo deserves much more than lifetime imprisonment.
Krizie - Fine. As I said, Boeing execs deserve whatever’s coming to them. “If” and when charges are brought up against them.
Lol they will manipulate the software to show double the actual range :)
VW lied about their diesel engines and they will lie about how good their electric cars are.
Not sure what the hell that guy is trying to say about Europe not embracing electric vehicles. In Norway alone you see more electric vehicles than petrol because of the incentives they have on them. Same goes for most of Europe. And here in the states I know more people want electric that are under 40 than petrol. Most 30’s,20’s, and teens want them to protect the environment. So I can see VW really dominating this market just by size alone.
Norway has a unique position in which it can supply electricity cheaper and with stronger logistical systems than other nations. Has to do with their natural resources if I remember right
Dr. Lyle Evans electricity is definitely not cheaper in Norway. The main reason is all the incentives on electric vehicles. They have a lower tax rate on them, and pay less on toll roads. The main reason is Norway wants to be totally fossil fuel free by 2030. Which is odd being the fact most of their money comes from oil production.
#Voltswagen HAS to REDEEM thier name CAUSE of THE #EmissionScandal 🚓🚓🚓🚓
Worse than that, to me, VW is forever linked to Nazis. As well as Adidas & Puma & Thyssen & Karl Zeiss & Hugo Boss. Issues like that can never be forgiven.
Vera Dandiflor hitler literally created the beetle so Idk what you expect
@@mariad.b.6344 time goes on, they have nothing to do anymore with Nazis, or do you also see Germany as a bad country and full with nazis?
So what options did a German automotive engineer have in the 30's? Read up on Henry Ford and "The Dearborn Independent" and the IBM involvement in the holocaust to get some perspective.
@@mariad.b.6344 Forever linked? Last time I checked, these companies haven't heiled Hitler since WW2.
Me thinks a large segment of consumers are ready for electric cars. personally pledge to make my next new car purchase an electric car my gut tells me it's a VW.
ferkemall Wow!!! Really??? That really sucks, might as well just drive ICE cars till all adjustments are made and cost of ownership of EVs are fully regulated, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
The base model of the electric Mini has about the same specs as the Cooper S. No need for options.
@ferkemall I repeat: the smallest model of the ELectric Mini already has the same options and performance as the Cooper *S*. But it will be cheaper. So option-wise it wont make a difference, it will be even slightly cheaper with extactly the same trim as a gas model.
WRONG: The first prototype of the VW Beetle was in 1926 that's 7 years before the Hitler was voted into power. Hilter did give the go ahead for a plant to make Beetles but it was used to make military vehicles in the war (based on the design of the Beetle). The Beetle's mass production started after the war under the control of the British. Before the British started mass production the only Beetle's were prototypes.
Hitler wasn’t voted but appointed and gave order to develop the Beetle in 1934. One year after he was appointed by Hindenburg, the then President of Germany.
@@azschalter I suppose with your logic the British Prime Minister is also appointed and not voted into office.
But your logic can't ignore the fact that the Nazi's where elected into office in the 1933 German election.
Volkswagen will overtake the EV market with his power and possibilities!
Holy crap. Hurry up and talk about the electric car part. I didn’t want a while damn history lesson.
Too slow!! 🥱🥱🥱 tesla has gone so far now
But, Tesla also has poor quality control and repairs cost an arm and leg. Tesla is way ahead in software, but building the car isn't their strong points.
VW never got big with trucks in the US because of the historic Chicken tax. This tax also discouraged American companies from developing better trucks because they faced no foreign competition.
Volkswagen is reviving the iconic VW Microbus as an all electric bus in 2021 for the 2022 model year.
It drives me insane that they can't pronounce it "Folkswagen" since V in german becomes a F.
to be fair, "V" isn´t always pronounced "F", just sometimes.
Other times we pronounce it as "W".
10:00 Where have we heard that before? 🤔
Oh, yeah. At 6:29. 🙄
Spot on. My city held a big internacional event in 2017 and BMW spread pictures of the electric future, with futuristic cars, the I-Next. Recently decided to make electric versions of their cars in 2022...maybe latter...
The diesel skandal was the best thing to happen for VW
I have been driving regularly for 35 years, and I have always driven only Alfa Romeo. Two years ago for the first time I purchased a vw golf 7 tdi dsg, a..... disastrous purchase : first problem :injectors failure, problem nr 2 mad unit failure, third and fourth again control unit and automatic transmission completely gone. ( fortunately all covered by vw official warranty, I must say that the vw staff was very professional and very kind) I will go back to driving Alfa Romeo!
most funny fact about vw: vw california is not available in California.
I've also heard Saturn wasn't available on Saturn.
It's Porsche "Tie-Kahn"
Volkswagen - German for people's car
They have a car that can be suitable for anybody
Volkswagen, Skoda, SEAT, Audi - Produce normal everyday family cars (for new drivers through to SUVs)
Lamborghini, Bentley, and Porsche - For the privileged.
Ducati - For motorbike enthusiasts
Jetta - For the Chinese market
They have their own commercial vehicle business under the VW name, as well as MAN and Scania - possible TRATON (idk if they make vehicles under that name)
They also sell buses and coaches.
#30 billion for VW is a loaf of bread to us!
stop talking about VW emissions and take a close look at American made semi trucks that do 6-8mpg whereas european trucks do 12mpg+
I drive VW, still amazing.
Prepare to get fooled again... just saying
Good story, but Diesels were getting better mileage cheating and polluting, not worse
V.W. needs car listed under 10K🤔👍
Am I seeing Tesla?
Owh demmit Kremer. You said the stock is fraud, fall and will not use EV...
VW. Just makes bad cars that look good. Unreliable expensive to repair, poor quality. That’s their problem
I love my 04' Passat 1.8T FOUR MOTION 5-Speed Wagon...
Bring the Polo GTI, euro passat, passat alltrack, Transporter/Multivan/Caravelle, Caddy, Amarok, Saveiro (True compact pick up) & they'll be alright in the US market
The Americans are not willing to pay for quality. You want SUVs at bang for your buck prices. Blame your neighbors.
VW’s are fun to drive but they are unreliable and expensive to fix.
Well if you take out the engine and put a battery in it I think you have a winner
@@gorgewashingtonful Still have to deal with VW Electronics which is one of the worst in the industry and the plastics they increasingly use doesn't age well. A battery in a Toyota or Honda would be a a longer lasting better value over time.
Without a bumper-to-bumper 100K warranty....I'll never touch another VW/Audi product, possibly the only big name cars worse than GMs
>>>FIAT isn't big name,
and although Nissan went down the toilet long ago due to the French/Renault merger, Nissan is still superior to GM and VW
They are all poo poo
I own a VW golf for 6 years now. Except for oil changes and regular maintenance, the car is care-free. It’s just as reliable as any other car.
You must of had a dud. I've owned 4 Volkswagens, and only had to replace ignition coils and spark plugs on my jetta at 100k miles
Never had any issues with my german cars. Any American car I've had has had some sort of issues however.
I believe electric engines are the only option for a multitude of reasons.
The problem is still carrying sufficient energy to run long distances and replenish this when depleted.
I noticed that many people don't fully understand the paradigm shift, which means getting into a fully charged car EVERY morning. So the biggest shift is in the mind, where the domestic infrastructure needs to change.
Almost every car manufacturer was (and probably still is in some places) using the software to cheat emissions tests. The reality is diesel engines are nowhere near as dirty as they are made out to be, burning a candle in your home produces more 'pollution' than what comes out of a modern diesel cars exhaust. It's all politics, obviously in no way is lying about it and denying it like VW did the right thing to do, and they got what they deserve. However they were just the 'fall guy' and there are very few large cooperations in the world that arn't doing or haven't done something criminal. So is the sad reality we live in.