Is The Forever Winter Worth It? Brutal First Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- The Forever Winter is an EARLY ACCESS PvE Survival Horror Extraction Shooter with some great ideas. Unfortunately, the execution falls super short. The Forever Winter brings innovative mechanics and tense moments but suffers from unfinished features and balancing issues. Will future updates change that?
Have you tried The Forever Winter? Let me know your thoughts below!
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The theme of this game is like a brainworm for me that I never knew I had. Hopefully, good things to come.
I can feel myself WANTING to play it! But I just dunno if I'll enjoy it :D
Yeah same! It's kind of like a mix of the Terminator future war and the Matrix's real world. It looks so cool!
It looks like it could end up being a fantastic game given some time. It's always fun seeing a new take on an old format.
Its certainly a twist on the standard formulae! I just hope they can keep it interesting, PvE live service can be a hard sell.
Love this format dude, and the editing is top quality ❤
Thanks dude! I'm still feeling out what works but I've had awesome feedback for this video so I'll keep at it!
I agree with you on all points. Great vid bro.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it! Expect more soon and, maybe even some gameplay!
As of recently the had done two hotfixes already which I feel like they are mainly focusing on the bugs before they add in new things
But awesome vid first time seeing u
Yeah the two hotfixes have already fixed a whole bunch. Looking forward to seeing what comes next! And thanks, still getting into the swing of making youtube but, glad you enjoyed!
I can't stop playing :(
Thats a good thing though, right?
i really hate when people buy an EA game and act like the game is unfinished ,no shit sherlock the game is unfinished that's why its called EA if you like it good if you don't good for you stop spamming" bro this game is trash i die so easily there is no content " ok then come back in a few months
@@giorgospsixramis3400 I hate how much people want games to "die" because early access didn't blow them away with the sickest things. People just like being nasty tbh.
I like it, like there were some really cool moments. But I also feel it would get boring quick after a while. Watching the faction going at it is cool but it also feel repetitive because there's no real significant impact to the world or your own gameplay.
@etismyname I definitely feel that, it felt like I was loading into 1 of 3 scenarios that played out while I snuck around.
I would highly disagree about the AI war Impacting your gameplay. Because it's you avoid the fight or get in a fight depending how much of a threat they are to you. I am binge watching everyone that posts any FW gameplay and depending how the AI moves the players always change their behavior.
@@alisahutako4518 Not quite sure what you mean. Generally, on the first map, a spawn of droids appears immediately right of the graveyard 4/5 times. Which generally means the same scenario plays out, or so I've noticed.
@@TwistyShape That part of the map has a high chance of being the battlegrounds for more heavily armed units or Larger depending on who controls the sectors. For example; Europa has completely occupied the bunkers in the last run and did so again in the next run. The opposing force trying to take that sector will deploy more and more lethal units like Tanks, Super Hind, or Exo mechs. Thus changing how much time you can spend in that area or even outright preventing you from entering that space because the fighting is too hot.
Here the AI simply fighting each other has changed how the player behaves.
Also, i don't know if you've already realized this but the units also changes their behavior depending on their 'Orders' or 'Directives'. Have you noticed that sometimes the AI squad will immediately open fire on you? Well it's because they have 'Orders' to clear out that bunker. Sometimes they will also stop pursuing you after a certain point because they have 'Orders' to defend that point. Thus, making that area always have a certain danger on it, where once again making the player reconsider whether they want to risk it for some loot or die trying.
I think people have created a warped view of what Early Access means. So glad to see a channel properly explaining the context of Early Access. Gonna support this team to the end. Finally a unique game with a unique view!
I never understand why people expect a finished product with early access. Admittedly it sucks to basically be paying for beta access but, we're willing doing it so... What do we expect? :D
@TwistyShape i share that same thought. Albeit with this game specifically the devs have been beyond vocal and transparent for everything. So I knew what the situation was. But, some people are making all kinds of false claims or ideas without a shred of research.
I'm definitely watching to see how this turns out
I will keep dipping a toe in for sometime I think! At least to track how it goes!
promising, but they need to axe the water ticking down offline, or its a nonstarter.
Not being punished for having a life outside of someone's game. Utterly absurd.
Yeah I'm torn on it. Its slow enough to not be a struggle but fast enough to nudge you to come online now and again.
Rough around the edges, however im still enjoying the game. The forums on this game are wild.... "I know this is early access, but why is the game not perfect 0/10 stars!" lol
The steam comments are a complete mess for this game. But it doesn't matter how many times you shout "its early access" people expect a complete game just needing a few bug fixes here and there.
I remember being super-interested when I first saw "that" one original video popping off in the algorithm since I love the idea and the aesthetic, then I saw the second video from the same channel and started to get a bad feeling about it (the same feeling I got after the Callisto Protocol 'first gameplay footage' video tbh), like it was just going to boil down to being another third-person co-op extraction shooter; It just seems strange to me that so much of the game was marketed as being this unique out-of-the-box game from a team of "talented-but-rogue" developers and the resulting game is gonna be "something you'd never see a 'big publisher' commit to" and yet, from what I've seen, it's being shoehorned into one of the largest gaming metas of the last few years anyway
Maybe it's just 'not for me' but if that's the case then I can only hope it becomes a better game for.. well.. whomever it's designed for. In the meantime I'll just wait for the release version and see if it can pull me back in. Otherwise it feels like the equivalent of a film that looks great and has some compelling ideas but was never able to come together as a whole
@reaps912 I'm excited to see where it goes but I think you've hit the nail on the head. Fingers crossed, but... Who knows! I've seen it goes both ways.
Really love the concept of this game, and the aesthetic! I'll be keeping an eye on it, and hopefully once the devs have had more time with it, it will be playable. 🤞
Their ethos is pretty epic and I respect them for giving it a shot. I just wonder if listening to the fanbase to drop the game NOW, was a good idea!
@@TwistyShape I guess it's hard to know when the right time is! You'd think by now most gamers would know not to expect a perfect game on early access. At least they'll have some good guided feedback to work on improvements that the community want. 🙏 It looks incredible so far which gives me high hopes! Getting the atmosphere right on a game like this is key and from the clips in your vid it looks like they've nailed it.
Ive just always thought of steams early access as basically a late stage (usually) beta version of the game
Honestly, they can be in any stage as long as they pass TH-cam verfication. It used to be based on something called "Steam Green Light" where users would vote for a game being made and, if they passed, it was put onto the store. Sadly it was abused by trolls and meme creators so, they got rid of it and now anyone can just drop a game onto Early Access.
I bought the game and played it for almost 3 hours. Love the concept and what the developers are going for. That being said, there is a ton of work to be done. Characters feel very cumbersome and terrible to move around. Gunplay needs some love and of course the water mechanic. People who have direct contact with the developers have stated that the current water mechanic is a placeholder and will have radical changes throughout early access.
I've already refunded since I can't really play Forever Winter reliably as I'm still rocking a GTX 1080(game runs smoothly on low settings but those fire effects TANK my performance even though they are staggeringly beautiful). I am 100% down for this game but I think I will wait till it's more or less nearly complete.
I think thats what I REALLY tried to get across in the video. It concept is AWESOME and I really love what the DM's are working towards but, releasing it into EA this early might just be a swing and a miss >.
@@TwistyShape True. But I think in this case with the low entry fee this will do more good in the long run. Developers have already thrown out a patch fixing various bugs and made some small improvements.
They've also been made aware of a game-breaking exploit where you can get under the map. This I'm not surprised by since I've gotten stuck in buildings and under them due to how jank the vaulting system. Also the complete lack of character momentum when you're not sprinting making small adjustments to get under the map possible.
One thing I find endless hilarious though if when you're going max sprint speed you can bunny hop across the battlefield in record time making even a drugged out Mario on conanine jealous.
Oh, I love using the 'dive' button to skitter across the map like a madman. Its hiarlious as clearly its just a placeholder animation! I've enjoyed the game and look forward to seeing it grow. Not to mention I love the ethos of the studio. I hope my video got across that I love the game, but don't think its suitable for 'general consumption' at the moment!
Those character models and weapon models need fixing asap. Looks terrible seeing how ridiculously big your hands are and they block the sights on certain weapons. Love the world and maps but there’s a lot of issues.
Love the idea of the game, and won't refund cause I want to support them. But even the good moments you have you second guess (kinda like you were talking about with the recoil and blinding muzzle flash) because you cannot trust the game. If say, dark souls, you find something unique; there is a tendency for people to at least think it's intended and try to find out why. For this game, while I like the devs and trust the game will shape up, I don't trust the game as is so the experiences can fall flat. Did they not shoot me because I wasn't a priority, or did they not shoot me cause the AI didn't notice me standing next to them. Who knows.
Yeah, I 100% get what you're saying. Like I vibe with the game but I'm only picking it up now and again because I just can't figure out if its WORKING or if I'm LUCKY!
Game is rough.
So was Tarkov its first year. Relax guys
@@IMGOSCHLEEP And Hunt: Showdown barely ran at 60fps when it was early access!
Yeh but Tarkov actually had some really unique features going for it that other games never really did. Forever Winter has a living battlefield that you're not part of which is a really neat concept, but not one I feel that can hold the game together on its own.
@fen3311 I definitely feel this concern, and while Tarkov has dope features, holy shit is it micromanage city!
@@fen3311 i played tarkov from the start, literally the only map was factory. FW is in way better shape than Tarkov when it started.
@@IMGOSCHLEEP Interesting, unless you were a super exclusive early tester before the closed access the first iterations of the game released with Customs, Factory and then woods for the extended alpha.
There is a weirdly addictive loop once you get used to it, but the movement, shooting, and busted-ass world geometry is absolutely unacceptable. Even for an early access game, it's barely playable enough to test anything, even despite a surprising lack of crashes for me.
The performance isn't terrible if you just knock everything to low except view distance (I have this on ultra), but poor optimization is to be expected this early on. That being said, it is EXCEPTIONALLY bad. Tanking your settings to 0 shouldn't ever result in 45fps _at_ _the_ _high_ _end_ .
I haven't HATED my time with the game, but frustraition is definately something I've experienced a lot. As you can see from my in-game footage, I've not had horrid performance but sadly... Decent performance doesn't save it from some issues I have ran into, looking at you AI.
@@TwistyShape Yeah, I'm still playing it but it feels like early 2000's console game jank.
NPC's are just randomly jutting across the map and fighting, tanks just hide in one corner of the map without doing anything, and the FUCKING STUN LOCK dude, holy fucking shit is it bad. You're paralyzed for like a year while the AI has its way with you, I just don't get what they were thinking.
the game barely runs on my 4090 w\ 5800X3D with everything on low - and if you run out of water while you're offline or busy working your stash and all gear are wiped and gone - give it a few years to cook and it might be something but right now it's super, super bad
Holy shit. You've got a far better graphics card than me but I'm running a Ryzen 9 7900X3D. I've heard a lot of people struggling to run it! I don't mind the water system but, apparently they're reworking it!
@@DangerBay you have like a $3k GPU and a $250 cpu.
Games aint like that anymore they need cpu
aww i misread the title, thought you were comin' back to the loft :(
Back to the loft? 🤔
@@TwistyShape you know. With Teach, the big man and...whoever else was simmys mate idk.
@@dudeistpriestman I still play there? Just not as much!
The idea behind it is boring (just like the game) when you think about it. It first sounds cool but in reality it's incredibly boring.
@paytonestrada7746 I think it depends what you want. For you it may be boring!
Trying to figure out if the water system is really that bad, or if it's just a bunch of whiny casuals that aren't used to hardcore games
Personally.... Second option XD XD XD
Well i dont have significant steam experience but i hqve been gaming for 40+ years.
That said, it sounds to me like steam has some work to do.
Appreciate the video. Maybe the game makes it to where i hoped it would be. I wanted to get into it but sounds like still development time needed.
Genuinely curious: is anyone else pissed that the gaming industry has gone this way? Realease early access to a game that needs work, and we will eventually finish it. Probably (looking at you starfield).
I quite like early access because it means smaller studios can make bigger games. But Starfield was made by a triple A studio with a triple A budget and they screwed the pooch. Thats nothing to do with Early Access, thats more to do with people picking up whatever Bethesda put down.
I think you just proved my point about the early access mechanism, it can be exploited.
I'm all for smaller game companies truly. When I was growing up, they released far fewer with greater quality [of design] in my opinion.
Maybe it's because the majority are shoehorned into a game engine because they don't have the budget for their own (or it doesn't make sense anymore to build your own).
For whatever reason it feels to me that game design has suffered. Which is why I so looked forward to this game.
Thanks for reply.
I think games design has suffered and I think its why Space Marine 2 did super well. It picked 2 things and did those two things really well. And of course! Thanks for watching!
Yes, idiots are angry about early access because they just refuse to understand why it exists and how it actually helps development.
90% of gamers know nothing about how games are developed despite playing and saying they love them so much.
@spankyjeffro5320 not saying there are not those who run around intentionally oblivious to facts, but the 'early access' title doesn't infer undeveloped.
It should be rebadged and steam is to blame.
If you called it 'dev labs' or something you wouldn't sell the sizzle to people waiting for a title to be released I grant you that much. But that's why it's not named something else too.
Steam has no stake in it, if someone wants their $ back they could care less.
That's the reason the branding doesn't work for the developers.
This is why I hate early access. It's ruined the industry. Gone are the days where finished games are released and your first impression of a game you've been waiting for for years is so memorable you'll never forget it. I miss that. I'm definitely buying the game but I'll wait a year or too when it's ready to be experienced.
I think early access is a love/hate relationship. I love it, because I get to be involved in a game from the foundational level, but so many times by full release am I burnt out!
*two.
I played a lot of early access games but this one is just the worst
@@ZombieWolfe Gonna HARD disagree with you there pal
@@TwistyShape game feels more like a rough draft of what they want to do it's fine but it needs way more work before it should come out as early access. Its fine if you enjoy the buggy mess it's in but not worth 30 dollars.
Yeah I can agree with that. I've played way worst early access games, and I don't "enjoy" Forever Winter atm, but I'm happy to support the devs because I enjoy where it could end up!
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