CoreXY? No. Let's call it a moving portal mod for CR-10 (S5) with mostly 3D printed and reused parts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 เม.ย. 2020
- This video is my first upgrade for the CR-10 S5 which I'm going to use to print rims. In order to get this done I need to make an enclosure. To make this as small as possible I decided to make a what I thought would be a coreXY printer, but actually is called a moving portal printer out of it. I don’t think it will reach the famous speeds a “real” coreXY printer can reach, but it definitely doesn’t have to move as much weight as a Cartesian style printer has to do. This mod is relatively simple and uses mostly parts already used for moving the bed and 3D printed parts. It's reversible too so if you don't like it you can get it back in the original state without too much effort.
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This guy is the next 3D printing nerd. His passion and creativity is next level. All these years and no one has tried to do something like this. Smart! Great job Jōn keep it going!
Proper Printing is better than 3D Printing Nerd in my opinion.
Awesome comment Steven, thanks! I have checked multiple times if this wasn't done already because it's so straightforward xD
@@properprinting That was incredibly creative! Seriously good job!
We have a CR10 S5 at work and it suuuuuucks, I'm betting this would solve tons of our issues! :D
This design is nothing new, modifying a CR-10 S5 to use this design is new though.
What’s the stock weight of the gantry vs the bed?
Awesome space-saving modification! Quite surprised by the stability of the tall moving gantry. It's not a CoreXY, nor Core anything since the kinematics is still Cartesian - you've essentially made everything move around a stationary bed, which is a very good idea. Keep up the great work!
Thanks! I was surprised too and I'm still going to stabilize it even further when making that enclosure :) It turns out to be a moving portal or moving gantry printer as I've learned from the comments :)
That look of "did I do my taxes?" made me laugh so hard that I didn't hear what you said after.
Hahaha nice xD
Creative, informative and entertaining.
Best TH-cam channel for 3D-printing hands down.
Wow thanks! :D
Your production quality and concepts are amazing! I really hope your channel blows up. Awesome content!
I have placed all files on my website so you can try it yourself properprinting.pro/product/easy-corexy-mod-for-creality-cr-10-s5/ Please share this video if you like it :) Have a nice weekend!
EDIT: Judging by the first comments on this video this is not a real CoreXY printer. I knew that this approach is different, like I mention in the video and I am still searching for the proper name. The CoreXY was the closest I could find.
Dude, this is awesome. I had a similar idea in the past, but I never thought it was actually feasible. Nice work!
Dude, I hope that as your channel grows you keep on doing these kind of things nobody else does. And it's a FACT that's going to grow! Simply awesome content!! Congrats
Thanks! I have made a list of ideas before I started this channel and it's growing almost faster than my channel xD There are a lot of ideas that haven't been done before, certainly not the best ideas, but it shows something different ;)
Brilliant, Subscribed!
Thanks Naomi for subscribing! :D
Hi Naomi!
make a colab video! Invent something together! :D
This is next level my dude, i feel pretty inadequate watching your mastery. excellent work!
Awesome man, thanks!
Very beautiful mod, Man! Again a clever and also surprising design, but works great. And your videos are really improving, with this beautiful studio 😉 music and images are fantastic, great job as usual 👍
Thanks Matthieu! I'm very happy that you're mentioning my improved studio!
Its frustrating that I can only like a video once. Every video you do is great and something I look forward to seeing.
Thanks Trevor, glad you liked it! Awesome to know that you're looking forward to the videos :D
Thanks for the sharing your printer modification. I love it! I am definitely considering doing the same! Keep up the great work!
This is the first time I have seen your channel and this was the first video... Its pretty rare that ill SUB just after watching one video but I think your design is awesome and you were very informative and entertaining as well. Its nice to see you have a great sense of humour. Well done and I look forward to seeing more of your videos!
By far the best 3d printing related content around, love the creativity.
Awesome, thanks!!
I can tell you are a maker with lots of passion, awesome 👏🏻!!!
Can't believe how quick your subs have grown, really pleased for you as I have said before . You put a lot of effort into these vids
Thanks, I cannot believe it either and you were among the first! Thanks man!
Fantastic work! Informative, ingenious and entertaining. All my very best to you. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
This is pretty darn creative, i'm really excited to follow along! Honestly thought you'd have to hit stage 2 at least haha Nice job Jon!
Thanks! I was convinced I'd have to hit stage 2 as well and therefore I bought all these profiles already xD Fortunately they can be used for that enclosure ;)
Man you don´t stop to amaze me!!! You have great problem solving skills, very nice my friend.
Thanks! So much problems yet to be solved ;)
Great video dude! It sounded like it was a ambitious project and you just did it! I bet nobody has ever made a printer like that, but you just did proved that it is possible! i think that this is revolutionairy
Thanks Rik! It looks so straight forward that I was surprised that this hasn't been done before with a printer like this ;)
Oh My God that is crazy!
I just finished designing and building my own coreXY and what you did is just amazing!!!
(Not technically a coreXY but who cares)
It's so simple, you didnt change the firmware or wiring!!!!!
Amazing good job
Awesome that you've built your own coreXY! Something that I should do in the future to show that I know what a real coreXY is xD thanks!
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I can't believe how much your channel has grown man. Been following since your first 100 subs. dang. And your concepts/designs blow me away everytime. This is no exception... Running a bit behind on your vids because work but I'm sure i'll leave a comment again in 20-30 minutes on the next one too...lol
Cool that you've been following me for this long already! I'm running a bit behind answering the comments xD Have a nice day m8!
This is a REALLY COOL modification!
I had the same idea last night when i was going to sleep. Its awesome to see how good it works. Better than i would have imagined. Also great job on the improved lighting and video quality(possibly due to the improved lighting). Upping your game for sure. Looking forward to the next video in this series :)
Man, what a coincidence! Would have been odd to see your idea become real in a matter of hours. I'm glad you noticed the lighting and I took a more critical look at the white balance. Another thing that helps is the standing position which makes it way easier to move and be more enthusiastic :D
@@properprinting yeah, it really was. I probably wouldnt have acted on the idea, so it was great to at least see that its possible :) Again, keep up the good work. Its working :)
Absolutely love your content.. Everything has become so much of the same and man your are nailing original, interesting content. Keep it up!
Thanks Kyle! I'm happy that I'm able to show something different on this massive platform :D
My CR-10 S5 has been sitting in parts on my living room floor for over 2 years now. This mod seems like it's just crazy enough for me to try and actually get working!
Just broke my CR10S5 out of mothballs for a large print. Not doing this mod though it looks like it will have the same issues as any bed slinger , moving too much weight around. Sure it can work but just a bit of space savings is all that is gotten out of it. Cool mod just for the sake of modding though.
Dude I do not care what everyone says about your design. Truth be told this is the most creative modification I have come across to convert a bed slinger to a much better printer. Not sure if this is real corexy but surely this solution solved the biggest problem with a moving bed and that too with negligible cost and effort. Keep up the great work. You have a fan from India 😊
Definitely going to make it big. Good designs and good work. Your an inspiration!
Thanks Moses! Feels good to inspire people, exactly what I'm going for :D
I really enjoy watching your video. Looks great!
Thanks Tim! I really enjoyed making it :D
You really need to start thinking about doing so patents. You have some awesome ideas that simply work out well! Geat job, again!
WOOOOW .... I'm just amazed!
You're crazy man, keep it up!!
Thanks Giovanni!
I was thinking about doing something like this to mimic industry CNC 3-axis setups. Great work! Ill definitely be playing around with this one to revive my Ender 3.
This is exactly what I've been thinking about modifying my CR 10 S5.
This is a refreshing original project. Good job.
Thanks! :D
Tinkering 101! Great idea. It offers some concerns but we are here to see it tested and thank you so much for sharing all these case studies with (us)e! It definitely helps the community evolve further!
Thanks! Indeed, and most of my ideas do offer some concerns and won't work flawlessly ;) I'm glad that this community as a whole builds upon such ideas to make things work! :D
good jòn really a beautiful job, you were excited when you saw that everything worked was fantastic good boy👍
Thanks a lot Antonio! Yes I was so happy that it turned out the way it did!
Amazing how simples is. Nice Project!
Thanks! I was a bit surprised that it worked at all, being as simple as it is :D
Very cool, really liked this video :) - your content is getting better every episode, the editing in this one was enjoyable :)
Also, I think this is a Gantry style H-bot
Creative solution, I'm interested in seeing a tall Vase mode print, as it would be a good test to make sure your not introducing too much wobble.
Thanks! I'm glad that you're noticing improvements! I've take a look into the gantry style H-bot and this indeed seems fitting, thanks for the info! A tall vase mode print is definitely something that must be done with this thing! :D
Sickk mode... the sickest i ever saw and not needing other parts its just pure genius. I am just jaw-dropped.
Thanks man! When I came with the idea I was very skeptical because it looked a bit too good to be true and I must have overlooked something xD
Nice work. Can't wait to see future projects.
Thanks Paul! Me neither, I'm very eager to add everything I have in mind to it! :D
@@properprinting I like your style. I found a new source of information and entertainment.
Crazy mod, very impressed!
HAHA!!!!! Yes!!! Nice job Amigo! The test print was very satisfying. Would like to see more of the quality you got out of it but from what I see, looks great!
Thanks Charles! Yes I'm going to put this thing to the test! ;)
The youtube gods have been kind today. I was just about to buy parts to make a much much more complicated frame. This solution looks much simpler. Thank you!
Awesome! Just in time then ;)
i love it and love the stuff you do :) and i think its incredible how well you do things :)
Thanks man! Great comment! :D
Bro.....this is genius. Thank you so much for sharing! Definitely subscribing.
Ah you tempt me to mod my cr-10s that I've already modded and dialed in. Very cool stuff.
Cool! Please wait a bit longer for me to verify how freaking well this is going to work ;) I already noticed a reduction in maximum build size which I have to fix in order for me to print the largest possible rims xD Fortunately an easy fix
Well done m8!!
Great video and a great mod
Thanks! :D
Great tip on the use of light colours to allow 3d notes to help with the next revision.
Thanks Max, I've used it once while discussing my design and it worked pretty well ;)
I'm watching this series totally out of order, but it's totally awesome.
That was a journey and enjoyable to ride along with you. Liked & Subscribed!
Thanks for liking and subscribing! You were just in time to ride along with the whole rim project :D
i hope you're proud of yourself!!!! you took on (as you most always seem to do) what looked like a Herculean task and with your talent, planning & the expertise that you have gained over your 3D printing life, you've managed to make massive modifications to a BRAND NEW 3D Printer!!!! you give me the courage to try more bold moves in my new 3D printer build. (my build follows the example of the "Workhorse" 3D printer
Hi Russ, thanks man for your comment! That printer looks sick, I get where it's got the name from with those bearing pulleys (I don't know the official name in English xD) I'm glad that this video helped you with the courage since you're going to need it ;)
Good video and i love that you explain everything slovly and show even the smalest mistakes. You natural and that i like. Thx from Denmark
Thanks a lot! I like to show the process as real as possible and the mistakes are part of that ;)
Je had nog even voor je belasting aangifte haha..mooie video weer! Ga zo door!
Haha ja inderdaad xD Bedankt man!
Dude this is absolutely incredible..
Another as good as usual project , bravo !
Thanks! I couldn't have wished for a better start! :D
Jon always has the coolest ideas. Im currently printing parts for this right now. You also could have an infinite Y without compromising the "moving weight". And on tall parts, you dont have to worry about the wobble of the part if its not a very wide part. Thanks for coming up with such great ideas Jon!
Thanks man! I really hope that it's going to work well! I don't know if you've seen my latest video, but I have improved the design a bit :)
@@properprinting We shall see! Im building the frame from scratch around a 400x400 plate (as opposed to using a CR10S5) so it will be interesting. I most definitely saw your newest Video! Already downloaded the new designs, thank you! Just waiting on some Vision Miner adhesive to help with the printing PC. I couldnt get PC to stick to my plate when i was printing the inner bracket so my parts are ABS in the meantime. Look forward to seeing more of your awesome work! Thanks man!
I just watched this again man such a good idea to make a smaller footprint hopefully u also make a video on the enclosure for it
Thanks! Yes I certainly am! I wanted to make a simple yet effective enclosure, but the design is becoming a bit too cool so I might as well make the sickest enclosure ever! :D
Awesome mod, i like it!
Am curious if there will be more Y ghosting or remnants especially up high with x at top? Wonder if you need to reduce Y acceleration and jerk?
I'm curious too! Probably resonance frequencies will be killing and they will be different at different Z heights. I'm going to make an enclosure with 2020 and 2040 profiles so I'm going to make it more stable at the top. For this specific project of printing rims I don't think it will be much of an issue since there aren't small details which causes those short movements.
Very cool man. Keep us posted on how it works after using it for a while.
I'll definitely do, thanks! This thing will print a LOT in the future ;)
This is awesome - great work! Now all it needs is a shortened X/Y frame base (as the bed no longer travels), and extending the wires to put the control unit including PSU outside of its enclosure home. It's gonna be tempting to minimize the enclosure size, but I would humbly suggest making sure to make enough room for wires, filament and bowden tube to not rub against the enclosure surfaces even when the extruder moves to the build area extremes. The friction may seem minimal, but everything becomes sandpaper when two surfaces grind against eachother enough times. Which can be many thousands of times just on a single large print.
You must be the happiest 3d printing person in the world 😄
It is like a classic CNC mill machine. When most move along Y.
Yes, I think it indeed like that. A milling machine for cutting sheets
Specifically a gantry style CNC. Yup pretty cool tho
more like a CNC router. CNC mill tends to have an independent z-axis due to higher cutting force.
This ain’t corexy
I was honestly a bit unsure, but I couldn't find a fitting name for this approach. It moves the core in the X Y and Z axis so maybe it's a core XYZ or do you know how this is called?
This is Cartesian with moving y gantry, corexy would mean kinematics change.
@@properprinting Its just a regular cartesian printer with a moving gantry. All of the axis are independently driven. With a coreXY or hbot configuration linear movement requires the interaction of multiple motors.
Yes, not a COREXY, but it is an interesting design, and a good idea.
Proper Printing well, name it reverse Cr-10
I hope you're going to return. I really enjoyed your original videos. And your incredible thinking.
I will! I had a rough time with some illness, project setbacks and I've bitten of more than I could chew. I've got a bunch of cool ideas and this year is going to be awesome!
@@properprinting I believe you, and, I just got over my first bout of Covid. Thankfully, I had Paxlovid because I’m 70. I think it saved my life. And my wife’s because she got Covid from our 38 year son, who moved in with us two years ago. Your adventuresome nature is keeping us going, my friend. I wish you the best! Give yourself all the time you need to recover fully.
Cool mod to the printer!
Thanks!
This was a fantastic video and I have an S5 in a box. Perhaps your mod is the way to go. Cheers, JAYTEE
Thanks man! I still have to do a small modification because the build size is reduced a bit. I'm going to upload a new version when uploading a version for the Ender
@@properprinting Excellent. I'm subbed, so I'll see it
Your a wild man "This is sick..." LOL
Love it!
Fantastic and absolutely well done!!!! This is what I feel pushes this industry forward, we share ideas and build them up to the next evolution, maybe a possible something to think about if you’re willing to at all and someone else hasn’t mentioned it, when you have the top beams running parallel to you Y-Axis maybe put some rollers at the top of the Z-Axis as you did on the bottom, that will surely totally remove any possible tipping effect from happening at all and possibly even remove the need of the center beam at the top connecting the two Z-Axis extrusion, anyway just my two cents thrown in, fantastic job once again, keep it up, love your videos 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Thanks Derek! You've described phase two ;) I'm going to do this when building that enclosure because this already will have a 2040 beam at the top :D I think that phase 3 with the second belt can be even applied afterwards, but I don't think that'll be necessary.
That's impressive, I would not have thought that a flying gantry 3D printer would be stable enough at height, well done!
Thanks! It's way more stable than I thought it would be, but I'm going to improve it further ;)
Sir, that is awesome. Pretty sick move.
Thanks Christian!
What do i need to buy and what do i need to print? Fun project to do!. Can be done with stock board or must change to SKR 3.1?
I'm late to the game it seems but this deserves a sub well done mate! I'm looking forward to more videos about this.
Thanks Luke for subscribing, I hope you're still early to the game ;)
WOW great idea, compliments. Bravo !!!!
Thanks! :D
Thats actually a great idea, nice one.
Thanks! :D
@@properprinting it would be interesting to perhaps weigh the bed and compare it to the weight of the gantry to see the difference, i understand your concern was more the physical footprint of the machine, but some folk will inevitably mention the bedslinging momentum argument.
Brilliant idea!
Well, many have already stated it's not a coreXY. but hell man this is awesome, Some people have cut their CR-10/Ender3 Z axis so they can stack them one over another. now with this they can stack them and make a grid out of them.
Craziness never failed to amuse me.
Thanks! I didn't even know about the stacking that you mentioned
Your amazing man keep it up ❤👍
Awesome Work. Made my day. Thanks a lot
Thanks Alex, that's awesome! :D
Great job thinking outside the box!
I've been pondering rims for 5ish years, happy to see where this goes. Thanks!!!
Nice! Going to do this as well to print molds for hydrofoils :D
If I could subscribe to you a hundred times, that still wouldn't be enough. This is AWESOME! 👍
Thanks Bryan! I'm already very happy that you were able to subscribe once ;)
thats fantastic. do you have a vid on how you worked through getting PC to print properly?
Thanks Anton! No, but I can tell you shortly how I did it. I used the Ender 3 pro I made an enclosure for in one of my earlier videos. Printed on glass with 3DLAC with a E3D hotend at 260 degC. Heated bed at 100 degC. Slightly slower speed of 3000mm/min. Added extra top and bottom layers (6 in total) because it has some difficulties closing the surface and added a wide brim of two layers high. The major problem I had was the pc sticking to the nozzle (even with a MetalX hotend) so I had to manually remove some blobs while printing if I was there on time. Fortunately I have the Z homing switch (Z homing on anything video) in the tool changer so it pushed the nozzle up and didn't knock the part loose.
Great video!
Thanks!
Very nice project. I want to see more videos about mods on this printer. See you in other videos. :)
Thanks! Oh boy am I working on these mods, I cannot wait to see this thing printing a rim! :D
I just looked up "Mad Genius" on Wikipedia. As I expected, there's a picture of you. Absolute lunatic. BTW, the PLA sketchpad is also genius!
Hahaha, absolute lunatic xD Yes, that sketchpad, I thought I'd throw this one in. I was working on another project (not related to this channel) and it really helped with the discussion :)
Well coreXY or not, this is cool! Simple and great design!
Thanks!!
Oh this is amazing.
Thanks! :D
Love the video just like all the others! Do you think the files for this cr-10s5 would work on a normal cr-10s? You would just need to change the length of the rod and pullys right? everything else should scale since its the same profile and frame design, just different frame lengths.
Thanks! I recon it would, the only thing that would be different is mounting the bed since there is only one profile in the center. I don't know how much the Y movement will be reduced. I have to make a small modification to fix this ;)
That worked so well, you probably need to be careful crossing the road....
This is awesome! 👏 Love your ideas. Did you have another brainwave at 9:50 ?? 😄 Can't wait to see what you come up with next. 👍 Great content dude.
Thanks!! I queued in my most favorite soundtrack and I pretended to hear it xD
I still can't understand why you only have 15800 subs!?
In everything you do, you go for a different approach than everyone else, you make it your way, and it is amazing! I really enjoy watching your videos, you do a great job!
Last week on Saturday I slipped with my angel grinder and hit my left arm, it went pretty deep, and I really don't feel much in my hand now, I hope that it will be better soon, watching your videos, keep my mind busy and let me go back to the pc and draw projects and print them, thank you for that.
My brother is a youtuber as well, maybe you heard about him (HABU), when he makes the next maker hub, you have to come 😊!
Keep being awesome!
Damn.. hitting your arm with an angle grinder... I hope you'll get better soon! Thanks for your comment and I checked your brother's channel trailer which is awesomely produced! I definitely will check his channel out!
@@properprinting oh man, thanks a lot, it means a lot to me that you've answered 😊!
I'm looking forward to meeting you in person someday in the future 😁!
Check out the last maker hub in his videos so you know what I mean 😁
I wish you a wonderful weekend and stay safe
I was thinking this many times that it possible or not? I am so happy that someone thinking and acting :D congrats :) I have a question, after modification still same bed dimensions? you know, if not, it need change in software dimensions of bed area.
This is amazing!
Awesome work, what printer did you print the polycarbonate brackets on?
you're awesome.....great design!
I also have a done a quite similar mod to my tevo tornado. I found that the z-axis( the part which moves the hot end frame) has put alot of stress on the stepper motor. I had to change out the stepper motors to a slightly different version .
Interesting! I'm happy that the Y motor of this printer was already beefy ;)
bloody amazing
Wow! This is my first time seeing your channel... so impressed with your ingenuity and presenting style. I just may give this a go on my S5. Question... I have installed an E3d Hemera direct-drive extruder and all-metal hotend. Do you think that would work in this modified setup or would a lighter Bowden setup make more sense?
Thanks Kevin, I'm glad you've found my channel! I'm going to put even more weight on it so we'll see how it's going to perform ;) For printing those rims I don't need such small movements though, but I'm going to make a follow up video soon to show how it performs ;)