Pioneer UDP-LX500 4K Blu-ray Player Review (vs Panasonic DP-UB9000)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2019
- We review the Pioneer UDP-LX500 4K Blu-ray player which is pitched as a universal disc player that supports SACD & DVD-Audio by the Japanese brand.
HDR formats supported include HDR10, HDR10+ (following firmware update in the future) and Dolby Vision.
The retail price is £999, making it one of the most expensive 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players on the market, exceeded only by the flagship Pioneer UDP-LX800 which retails at £2199.
Throughout this review, we compared the Pioneer LX500 vs the Panasonic DP-UB9000 and occasionally the OPPO UDP-203.
Audio kit used to test sound performance included a pair of Bowers & Wilkins 603 floorstanders, a Rotel RA-1572 stereo amplifier, as well as Chord Shawline cables.
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Man of the people... buying a £999 4K Blu-ray player.
Then buy un Aldi and take the tram for the rest of your life.
A hero that we need, but don't deserve.
Forget collaorbrating my tv or tech reviews, I watch ur videos for only for the jokes ☺
A true man of the people would like this comment.
I can tell you’ve upgraded your video editing software - much higher production quality!!
Love all your reviews. Such great tech info with a whole bunch of funny 1-liner comedy! you're the best . Keep up the great work
Thank you for tour review. I've much been wondering about this pioneer. Been using their units since the early 70s being the SA9100 intergrated amplifiers which had a terrific build quality as well as a pleasant sound. Is nice to see an old label revive themselves.
I love your videos. Tech specs give me a grounding warmth inside. I know it sounds weird, but watching your videos helps me relax before sleep. Thankou :)
Keep up the good work Vincent, love your reviews & looking forward to the new Panasonic oled range for a review.
Loving how you're veering ever towards the high end not just for video but audio too. I can't believe no one has jumped on you for those cables, but big respect from this guy here, for whatever it's worth. CineMike play a role in that? ;)
Love the reviews and the humour, keep it up man of the people 😉😂
Absolute legend. I've relied on hdtvtest's reviews to purchase my tv and also three tvs for friends and family. Vincent is the undisputed authority when it comes to home theatre advice.
Exactly! THIS!^^^^^
Great video and very impressed to see the use of high-quality cables from the UK's Chord Company
Dan George I’m loving my new 6 pairs off chord company shawline XLR cables 3 chord company shawline power cable’s and chord company shawline 3 meter subwoofer cable pretty expensive but well worth the investment
Always a pleasure bro! Time well spent.
I like Vince’s reviews. Not only are they spot on, he’s also a top shelve comedian. Lol
Thanks for this review and comparison.
It may have been mentioned elsewhere but the Panasonic does not support SACD playback and that's a bit of a deal breaker for me, especially at this price point.
Thank you for this comparison test!
Im surprised that there isnt a que for your autograph @ Aldi Mr Vincent you good man ✔👍
Hey Vincent did Pioneer ever release an HDR10+ update for this player?
Keep up the good work
Paulie i think it seems discontinued on the usa site. One day we wom’t find any high end player.
Very good video as always. Superb comparison between these two giant. I can’t help thinking they are both far too expensive especially in a dematerialised World (video and audio speaking)...
Quality has a price i hear you say but when you can get a pana ub820 below £200, these babies should be around £550. Keep the good work
Yea, now great players are hella expensive and its not very inviting for new ppl who might want to start to invest on physical media... They should be cheaper by alot.
Pana 820 has only 100 base t ethernet when ub9000 have 1000 base t (big difference in streaming) and both lx500 and ub9000 have better sound components.
Sound quality observations very useful ... Thank you.
Refreshing review! like it so much. way to go...
I love this channel, lol and call me crazy but Vincent I get your humor. You’re a funny guy. You have the most information I’ve found from reviewers for tv’s and players. Have you considered audio video receivers? I would like to know what you come up with in that arena. Keep up the good work.
People complaining it not having wifi or apps, but when you are looking for these things you should buy something cheaper.
I have this player since january. It is amazing!
They always seem to be junk on Bluray players anyway. I was actually shocked how utterly unusable they are on my Panasonic.
I want a player like the Panasonic to squeeze the best possible quality out of streaming services, while getting both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos as well. This is near impossible to get in today's fractured market.
Those same people don't seem to realize that these players will last, while the cheap, players with apps will be dead withing 3 years...
@@tom11zz884 seriously? How come my ass cheap Xbox one S still work like a charm? Are you telling me it will break in August 2019?😂
@@Daniel_Martin777 I agree. I had the 7006 before. Great sound, but this Pioneer is clearer. I think it is the seperate hdmi for video and audio.
The Marantz was also €1000 but it is a cheap plastic player with a terrible disc loader. Replaced it 3 times but kept breaking down. This Pioneer just overall has a better build quality. I am very happy with it.
The 800 is just for people who can spare the money. Don't really use the features via hdmi.
Vincent, great video! What would be your dream setup for all-round home entertainment?
As man of the people you still do a great job for us !
keep up the good work, man of the people....
I love you’re sense of humor.
I have a Panasonic GZ950 OLED, Panasonic DP-UB820 player and Pioneer VSX-932 AV Receiver. It's a great combination!
I didn't know Pioneer released Blu-ray players, but I think I 'm happy with my current setup.
Funny and informative as always :)
Love your videos!!!
it would be nice to see if Pioneer can close the gap (with the Panasonic) with better video processing after its firmware update?
Loved the sound / cut nail analogy!
Vincent - it looks like you left the optometrist taking their glasses. :) Love your videos and funny side-comments.
Cracking sense of humour 👍
I still have the classic £2000+ RRP Pioneer BDP-LX91 blu Ray player. It’s the best I’ve tried and I’ve had over 10 blu ray players. Even tried the newer LX88, but that was more aimed at upscaling to 4K, and since I still have a Pioneer plasma the 91 was better for me! Can’t beat the build quality of high end Pioneer AV kit.
Saw the picture and thought you were about to tell me my Pioneer Elite 151 is still the best tv to own.
He did it again LMAO. Man of the people his editing skills are legendary.
Hi Vincent, will you still review the LX800? In fact, LX800 is the fair comparison to the UB9000
If I’m using a high quality audio DAC in a pre-amp/processor (Emotiva XMC-1), will there actually be an audio difference between the Pioneer lx500 versus the Panasonic 9000 while listening to CDs? I’ve always assumed that there wouldn’t be any sound processing in the digital domain prior to sending out a digital audio output port.
thanks for review. Why is English subtitle not only supported for this video?
From the clues you have dropped, I think you are a fellow Mancunian. Love your reviews.
your observational humour is spot on
Im contemplating getting one of these. I got a 2018 65 Pana OLED TV and would like to get a real high end drive, benefit from the best DVD upscale and play some CDS along too. Any advice / feedback?
Hi Vincent. Not sure if you are still monitoring this thread, but do you have a view on how the DP-UB9000 compares to the Panasonic DP-UB820 in terms of video performance? I have little need for the superior audio output of the DP-UB9000.
Were you really using the Rotel's DAC? From the video it looked like you were connecting the players to the rotel using RCA and/or balanced cables which means you were using the DACs in both the players and the Rotel was just amplifiying. If you had connected them digitally using coax or toslink then you would have been using the Rotel's DAC.
I still wouldn't mind having the Pioneer Elite 88FD Blu-ray player
Probably their best player they ever made, but very hard to find and expensive as a mug.
My trusted site for reviews. Have Oppo 203 & Panasonic 820
I have had the Lx500 for 6 months now love everything about it,although it has stalled/stuttered during playback on a couple of uhd discs ....during playback
Yes you can dim down the diaplay and the blue power button light. Use dimmer on the rc
Is the SACD and DVD-A (advanced audio) output on analog RCA jacks. So the DAC in the payer handles DSD and advanced audio.
Question...since you were sending analog audio from both players to the rotel..was not the d to a happening in each player and not the rotel?
Hello there fellow Aldi fan.
Do you no longer have the Oppo unit? I understand why you compared this against the Panasonic (both are still sold) but it would be interesting to see your thoughts against the Oppo UDP-203 too. When you did the Oppo review, you didn't include the audio discussion and it would've been interesting to seen that compared against the Pioneer and Panasonic units.
Its a lot of stuff the oppo does that both these players dont do like the stretch feature and also they cant play rip MKV files with Atomos
@@michaelfoster3441
I'm am aware of those differences. Yet, I'm interested in the reviewer perspective. That's why I said "it would be interesting to see your thoughts" If he has the Oppo still, I would be curious to know his thoughts on how it sounds in comparison to him. I have an Oppo and I am aware of the specifications of all three units. A specification sheet doesn't tell me the reviewer's opinion of how it sounds attached to the same amplifier he used for his comparison.
Thank you ! Just one quick question regarding the ub820 & 9000 : for HDR optimizer, with a projector (JVC 7900), should I pay around 600€ more for the “low luminance projector” settings ? (which are only available on the 9000). Thanks.
Get the UB820 and put enhanced firmware from regionfreedom.com on it to get the extra features😃
Im a Aldis Patron also Vincent Great video
Love it.... Man of the People.
Does this player give CD information such as artist and title by connecting to the internet?
Does pioneer play mkv files via usb with dolby atmos sound? Pany can't?
humor with a straight face is amazing
A man of the people surely knows how "irritable" a finger nail that hasn't been filed can be...so I'm buying every word that this very clever reviewer has to offer. Keep working on the dead pan technical humor, you professional calibrator, Dan Ackroyd would be very proud of you. By the way, what are your thoughts on the super natural?
Too many questions, so I own a BDP -LX 91, it was hacked to play multi zone DVDs, does the UDP 500 also play multizone DVDs(I own a number of older classic zone 1 discs)? The BDP has served me well, and I have replaced the lazer drive too, but now need to upgrade to 4K!
A good technical review.
So this player is better with Dolby vision than Panasonic but not for hdr? Is dolbvision equal to oppo? How does audio compare to oppo 203?
does the Pioneer Elite UDP LX500 4k Blur ray player support dolby atmos?
Great video thanks.
wondering if it is using 1 hdmi in single mode out (video/audio) is better quality? or same no difference as using 2 hdmi (1 for video and 1 for audio) in separate mode? (for 4K UHD movie viewing) thx
Nice review Vincent, thank you. I have an LX500 and you are right, it is built like a tank and is very nice quality. I chose it over a UB9000 because I enjoy SACD.
I have a new JVC RS1000 projector and wondering if I should also get a UB9000? for best 4K HDR experience ?
I plan on having a well known calibrator (Chad B.) calibrate my system after I get the appropriate hours on the bulb. Maybe because of the professional calibration, a UB9000 won't be necessary?
I'm looking for the best 4K/HDR experience with the least tweaking every time I put 4K disc in.
Thanks,
Tom
Love your project fear description lol
I have a 75" Sony XR75X90 and Panasonic DP-UB420 and a Yamaha Dolby Atmos Receiver..... will I see any improvements if I will upgrade to this Pioneer LX500 player? I know they are in different categories...but will it be a big difference?
I bought the Pana UB820 & sold my Oppo203 I am happy so far .
Al, what do you like about the UB 820 more than the Oppo?
Personally i would have kept the Oppo. The 820 has just 100 base t ethernet and cannot ouput more than 100 mbits theoretical for 4k streaming. I bought the apple tv4k for streaming,. It is too bad Oppo abandoned the market. I would have buy one.
Have both & made my Oppo region free. Also it plays usb thumb drive Star Wars
I still have a Pioneer DVD player from 1997 and I love smooth disc tray on it! Sometimes I just play with it just because. I thought Pioneer didn't make these things anymore. I guess they just don't make these things for poor people anymore. I think I will buy this player if they ever release that firmware update to replace my crappy LG UP970 I got for very cheap with my TV. I also require the display for chapter and timecode on the device itself, it perplexes me that most players don't have this anymore like my crappy LG UP970. So, we have to buy over 1000€ player to get these things nowadays. I guess being enthusiast comes with the price these days.
Love the old school look of this player with the big silver feet. Still out of my price league tho.
Wish I could get one today. It seems as though Panasonic is the last player standing for true reference quality. Wicked bummer since sound is as important to me as image.
Nice review, can you please review the LG 4K blu ray player? (LG ubk90)
I'll save him and you the trouble.
The LG UBK90 is hot garbage compared to Oppo, Panasonic, and Pioneer.
No one does bluray player reviews like you. Simple the best! I went Panasonic dp-ub9000.
Doug Hilton how is the sound in music. Bright? Warm? Musical? They said have put audiophile component. Is it true in listening?
Have a sony 85” x950g and oppo 103 need to play sacd and 4k Blu-ray. Should I buy ub9000 and keep oppo to play the sacd or buy the lx500 and sell the oppo. I use more for video than audio, any suggestions? Thanks
Hello @HDTVTest
Love your reviews and videos : )
But sorry, need to confirm something on the audio review, @11:00 timestamp on the video, you say: "In theory, both players should sound similar, since we are using the Rotel's DAC."
Hmmm, I dont think that is correct, we are actually using the players's audio DAC, since the audio connections flows you showed were:
- Pioneer/Panasonic audio source (digital) -> Pioneer/Panasonic internal DAC -> Pioneer/Panasonic unbalanced RCA (or balanced XLR) line level audio outputs (analog) -> Rotel unbalanced RCA (or balanced XLR) line level audio inputs (analog) -> Rotel internal power amplifier -> Rotel speaker level audio outputs
Or am I wrong and missed something ?
I was scrolling through the comments to see if someone commented on that! 😉
You are correct. If they used the analog out of the players (and assuming the amp did not convert back to digital for any kind of processing - which would not be ideal obviously) then they were listening to the dac of the players NOT the dac of the amp 😊
I noticed this also and was scrolling the comments to see if a confirmation could be found....
Loving my panny ub9000 so far. I don't own a single sacd/DVD audio, so it's perfect for me. Hdr optimiser is amazing.
Can I ask you how the HDR optimizer looks for HDR10 4K Blu-rays? I keep hearing great things, and was actually going to go purchase the player this week
@@adamsultana8380 Looks amazing. Have it paired with the LG c8 65. One of the biggest things I notice too, is that the Netflix app has the hdr optimiser available for applicable content. Everything looks much better than the tv app version. So far I don't regret the purchase at all.
@@wking8 still happy with the player?
@@Watchmyarm Love it. The streaming out interface is laughable and feels like it's from 1998, but the player is amazing.
How do you connect audio? I’m thinking about getting the panny 9000 and a suitable AV received which supports the 7.1ch analog signals. My resource shows me this might the only advantage against the Panasonic Ub824. What do you think @wking? 😇
I decided on picking up a open box UDP-LX500 on ebay for a very fair deal. I already own a UB820 paired with an LG C2 and a Bose Soundbar 900 with sub and surrounds. When converting DTS to PCM(because both the C2 AND Soundbar 900 cannot decode DTS), there's no sound coming out of the rears(also tested a Sony x700 with DTS set to PCM and the surrounds work perfectly). All devices are fully updated and tried an array of quality HDMI cables with no luck. I figured the UB9000 would have the same exact issue in my particular setup, since it's mostly if not all the same on the digital side as the UB820 and same FW, so only a UDP-LX500 or an Oppo 203 would be a viable high quality replacement, if I want the surrounds to work on all movies that have surround.
I feel like $500+ is a lot? Are there any good “budget” options?
Are there going to be HDMI 2.1 options soon?
HDMI 2.1 is for gaming. It's not needed on a 4K Blu-ray player.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M that’s not what I asked. Thanks
@@ANMIV517 You're welcome for giving you knowledge. 👍
@@PSYCHOV3N0M stop assuming why I’m asking a question, thanks.
@@ANMIV517 Stop being so triggered. 😂😂😂
How can I paired these Pioneer with my receiver? For videos and music, please help me, thanks a lot
Hello. Is pioneer UDP-LX500 available?Some say it is not produced anymore.
REALLY upset that a superb player like this Panasonic doesn't have zoom control, like all the Oppos do. But those Oppo dopes omitted allowing you to move and center the zoomed image on the screen. My JVC XV-NA70BK DVD player from 2004 can do that with ease. Zoom controls allow more intimate control over content and really adds to the fun. The least Panasonic should do for a player at this price is to add this feature via a firmware. That's why I went for the Pioneer LX500, the only high end BD player with complete zoom control. Excellent build quality but I was pissed that unlike my Oppo it has no variable/mute stereo output control so I could drive my power amp directly.
Does anyone know if Pioneer bought Oppo's OS after they exited the market? Even though there is no home screen the settings menu and font choice look almost identical to my Oppo 203.
No. They just share the same Mediatek platform.
My Pioneer TV can't turn on. It said "Bluetooth module doesn't load". Can you help me?
Can you make video about cheaper alternatives? (X700/UB450 etc.)?thanks
or
UBP-X800M2
Rotel 1572 and B&W 603 are amazing setup
I’m using LG cx what resolution should i select on pioneer lx500 4k or 4k/24p
Vincent, could you tell me something about multimedia playback on pioneer UDP - LX500, its my last option to buy good blu ray player. under panasonic UB820 it was clear lottery, and drive not plays MP4 files from optical media (not shows), playing avi files was lottery too. Sony X800m2 could be good ... but freezes randomly with dvd and 3 layer brs.... I dont want return 3rd player... nor in this price level... please help me
Vincent were did you buy the pioneer i am trying to get one ???
Anyone think there will ever be a new Universal 4K player (SACD and DVD-Audio Capable) with Analog 7.1 out?
I like your sense of humour! Great review!
Hola conecte un cable de audio y al sacarlo dejo de funciar el sonido del cable alguien sabe que paso ???
Vincent for Man of the Year
I think your showing the lx 800 version because the 500 has gold lcd screen and Elite labeling? which did you review?
We reviewed the UK/ European version of the LX500... the US equivalent has the Elite labelling.
Hey "Man of the people" i bet the update will be out spring 2020 :P ...! Thanks for the fun review - very entertaining even for some1 who has zero interest in bluray players :-)
So funny, thx Man of the people.
Funny video puns today well done
I'm glad someone finally agrees that BR players can sound different on the digital outputs. Some reviewers say they all sound the same which they don't. Just like the old CD transports BR player also sound different as transports. I have a UB 900 which exibits the same sound character with digital output as you describe. I would agree with your assessment based on that as a 2 channel player but remember this is primarily a home theater device which most prefer the more open crisper sound when in theater mode. That's probably why Panasonic went this route with the sound. They also do have some sound filters which some may prefer for 2 channel. Great video-glad you are also getting into audio assessment.
Have Pioneer discontinued their UHD BluRay range for the UK? No longer available on Pioneer's website and not listed at Richer Sounds anymore! Not a good sign!
great review, shame i cant afford it
It’s the same design as the PIONEER BDP-LX58-K but now with 4K.