Society has changed so much over that time too. The world that the original coronation Street was based on no longer exists and is long gone -when you watch old coronation Street you're basically watching social history. It's a bit like that old saying, "The past is another country. They do things differently there."
Ah, i do miss old Corrie a bit, I can’t say I’m a big fan of it these days. After the late 2000s I stopped being interesting, everyone is either a secret serial killer or a nutter. I completely disengaged when they killed off Kylie Platt, she was such a humorous character. Still, it’s nice to come back to these older episodes from time to time.
That's how it would have been back then. "......he's bought it...." a wartime expression, they had probably served in the war & seen a lot of death. The world has gone too far the other way these days.......too many woke oversensitive little 'flowers'!!
Robert Maxwell who died in 1965 was played by Donald Hewlett, later well-known as the colonel in It Ain't Half Hot Mum and Lord Meldrum in You Rang M'Lord
I wasn't even born at this time, but what exactly was the story with Joe Donnelli? From what I can make out, he'd pulled a gun on Stan and was making him sing 'Silent Night' then shot himself!
Martha's death, one of the Street's biggest ever mistakes, was done especially brilliantly. Apparently Peter Adamson (Len) delayed saying 'she's dead' hoping for a last minute reprieve enabling his words to be cut and her to survive.
@@kathp6689 Hi, because they worked so brilliantly as a trio. They were hilariously funny, with each character sparking off each other - Ena was aggressive but gentle and sensitive underneath, Minnie was mild with an underlying toughness which could cut Ena to ribbons and Martha was a gossip whousually spoke without thinking, and who therefore said things for the other two to react to. ' One of their writers put it perfectly - those three could talk about absolutely anything and it would be riveting and wonderful to write - have a look at clips of them here on TH-cam.
@@niiamhe1728 Didn’t the actress give producers probs backstage and that’s what brought on her character’s death? Also, what was the storyline when Martha’s unseen ghost haunted the bar where she died?
@@tjames9698 Not sure what you mean about the producers giving probes or whatever, and as for the ghost/voice of Martha was Betty Turpin in 1976 hearing her voice despite never meeting Martha before she had passed away, it was because it was the 12th anniversary of her death?
This is difference between then and now. In the eleven years between 1960 and 1970 (including 1960 as 1 not 0) there were 14 deaths. Nowadays, it's more like 14 per year or so
Number of episodes, dear boy. Used to be two a week, the whole pace was slower and gentler. Now it's five a week, how ya going to fill all that time in?
@@Krzyszczynski Good point. The ironic (or just plain stupid) thing is though that back in the 60s, 70s and 80s they lambasted Crossroads for many of the things that they are doing now (same goes for Emmerdale and EastEnders) which was mainly due to too many episodes (and too little finance as well tbf)
This was when the show was true to it's concept: the lives of ordinary people in an ordinary street that could be anywhere. The little everyday things that everyone could identify with. Then it took a wrong turn - the number of murders, rapes, kidnappings, disasters and violent crimes in Coronation Street has reached absurd levels. Where I live there hasn;t been a murder in the 50 years I've been there. This is no doubt true for everywhere else. Coronation Street went down a rabbit hole. Once you have a murder, everything else feels like an anti-climax. So you have to keep doing it.
That's how it used to be. Remember, it wasn't that long after WWII, with many including that copper probably, having either memories or a close connection to both world wars. Reminds me of the old joke: Sergeant Major, the drill instructor is called in to see his commanding officer. Officer tells SM that both Private Jones's mother and father have been killed in some tragic accident and to break the news to him gently, being he's the sensitive type. SM goes back out to the parade ground and barks out: *_"All those of you who are NOT orphans take one step forward, JONES WHAT THE FUCKING HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING ?"_* >
Sign of how society is totally different now. As has been pointed out, that generation had been through the war. They'd seen death all around them so were very hardened to it, because they had to be.
The coach was in a dangerous condition - the police were trying to stop it being driven any further, but it had deviated from the planned route and they only spotted it just before the steering fell apart.
The acting in the first decades of this program was phenomenal. The characters were iconic and old friends.
It was so much more gritty and realistic back in those days..
You can see how good it was back then it’s absolutely tripe these days
A lot more realistic than todays episodes
It's crazy to see how much this program has changed over the years
And not for the better IMO ...
@@suesmith3744 I agree it was better back in the old days
@@UltimatelyEverything I still watch the old 1960s episodes, love it.
Society has changed so much over that time too. The world that the original coronation Street was based on no longer exists and is long gone -when you watch old coronation Street you're basically watching social history. It's a bit like that old saying, "The past is another country. They do things differently there."
@@th8257 The Future was meant to be better but its worst... All done on purpose imo as it all could have been avoided.
I liked the old Coronation Street stories
The first death, that of May Hardman, was actually on the 30th December, 1960, not the 10th.
You should have included Stan, that was so moving.
That was in ‘84 though
Harry's pipe always brings a tear 😢.
Ah, i do miss old Corrie a bit, I can’t say I’m a big fan of it these days. After the late 2000s I stopped being interesting, everyone is either a secret serial killer or a nutter. I completely disengaged when they killed off Kylie Platt, she was such a humorous character. Still, it’s nice to come back to these older episodes from time to time.
my mum born in 1972 she died in 2022 i was born 1997 i was upset rip mum 1972-2022
Coronation St is a dangerous place ....
Mike Frazer they were an unhealthy bunch - brain tumours and heart attacks all round
Never hang around Ken Barlow. He's seen his mother, brother and 2 wives off by 1977....
ur not wrong
Len 'HARRY! HE'S MY MATE!'
Other guy 'Sorry pallie. Looks like he's bought it to me.'
Be a bit sensitive for goodness sake!
I reckon it's great writing - both these men would have fought in the war and would be used to dealing with death in that was as a coping mechanism.
That's how it would have been back then. "......he's bought it...." a wartime expression, they had probably served in the war & seen a lot of death.
The world has gone too far the other way these days.......too many woke oversensitive little 'flowers'!!
What did he buy the van?
Robert Maxwell who died in 1965 was played by Donald Hewlett, later well-known as the colonel in It Ain't Half Hot Mum and Lord Meldrum in You Rang M'Lord
1970-1980 please
I wasn't even born at this time, but what exactly was the story with Joe Donnelli? From what I can make out, he'd pulled a gun on Stan and was making him sing 'Silent Night' then shot himself!
Hi, he'd killed Elsie Tanner's American husband Steve in 1968 which had driven him bonkers, hence his eventual behaviour in December 1970.
@@ysgol3
Thanks!
@@kayleighbyrne5191 Pleasure !!
@@ysgol3 Elsie Tanner had more yanks than Eisenhower!
@@theculturedthug6609 Careful she'll be putting a ashtray in her handbag if she hears you talking 'bout her lodgers.
Before Corrie was turned into Eastenders, which is when I quit watching.
Martha's death, one of the Street's biggest ever mistakes, was done especially brilliantly.
Apparently Peter Adamson (Len) delayed saying 'she's dead' hoping for a last minute reprieve enabling his words to be cut and her to survive.
yeah he was unimpressed by lynne carol being sacked and at one point refused to say the lines, “she’s dead”
Why was it such a big mistake??
@@kathp6689 Hi, because they worked so brilliantly as a trio. They were hilariously funny, with each character sparking off each other - Ena was aggressive but gentle and sensitive underneath, Minnie was mild with an underlying toughness which could cut Ena to ribbons and Martha was a gossip whousually spoke without thinking, and who therefore said things for the other two to react to. '
One of their writers put it perfectly - those three could talk about absolutely anything and it would be riveting and wonderful to write - have a look at clips of them here on TH-cam.
@@niiamhe1728 Didn’t the actress give producers probs backstage and that’s what brought on her character’s death? Also, what was the storyline when Martha’s unseen ghost haunted the bar where she died?
@@tjames9698 Not sure what you mean about the producers giving probes or whatever, and as for the ghost/voice of Martha was Betty Turpin in 1976 hearing her voice despite never meeting Martha before she had passed away, it was because it was the 12th anniversary of her death?
It was way better back then
This is difference between then and now. In the eleven years between 1960 and 1970 (including 1960 as 1 not 0) there were 14 deaths. Nowadays, it's more like 14 per year or so
Number of episodes, dear boy. Used to be two a week, the whole pace was slower and gentler. Now it's five a week, how ya going to fill all that time in?
@@Krzyszczynski Good point. The ironic (or just plain stupid) thing is though that back in the 60s, 70s and 80s they lambasted Crossroads for many of the things that they are doing now (same goes for Emmerdale and EastEnders) which was mainly due to too many episodes (and too little finance as well tbf)
This was when the show was true to it's concept: the lives of ordinary people in an ordinary street that could be anywhere. The little everyday things that everyone could identify with. Then it took a wrong turn - the number of murders, rapes, kidnappings, disasters and violent crimes in Coronation Street has reached absurd levels. Where I live there hasn;t been a murder in the 50 years I've been there. This is no doubt true for everywhere else. Coronation Street went down a rabbit hole. Once you have a murder, everything else feels like an anti-climax. So you have to keep doing it.
At least the murder rate hasn't yet reached the level of Midsomer!
Heart attacks in Coronation Street is the mostcommon
Not anymore it's being killed by a serial killer now
Just to say Ida Barow was 44 not 64.
2:34 What the !!@@!! is wrong with that policeman!? Comes to tell Frank Ida's been run over and killed- 'Let's get it over with, then.'
That's how it used to be.
Remember, it wasn't that long after WWII, with many including that copper probably, having either memories or a close connection to both world wars.
Reminds me of the old joke:
Sergeant Major, the drill instructor is called in to see his commanding officer.
Officer tells SM that both Private Jones's mother and father have been killed in some tragic accident and to break the news to him gently, being he's the sensitive type.
SM goes back out to the parade ground and barks out:
*_"All those of you who are NOT orphans take one step forward, JONES WHAT THE FUCKING HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING ?"_*
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Sign of how society is totally different now. As has been pointed out, that generation had been through the war. They'd seen death all around them so were very hardened to it, because they had to be.
It's Alf Roberts he is talking to not Frank at that point. (Audrey's "Alfie")!
200th liked yes. :3
At least Betty Alberge was later in a far more heartwarming positive show about death. Rentaghost
1970
1960
i feel bad for May Hardman. just to die 21 days after it began
At least she lasted longer than Reg in EastEnders, who was discovered dead at the start of the first episode!
Looks like the police car caused the coach crash that killed Reg Ellis!!
The coach was in a dangerous condition - the police were trying to stop it being driven any further, but it had deviated from the planned route and they only spotted it just before the steering fell apart.
Wot no cancer ?
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One brain tumour (1967 - not shown)